Do doctors know what goes into the flu shot?

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Flu Shot Dangers Far Outweigh Benefits

First, let us all agree that the flu is an inconvenience and usually not life

threatening. The only time it is life threatening is if someone is immune

deficient. When you consider what is in the shot and how it is made, the toxic

ingredients and additives are much worse for the body than the illness. Most

people, including doctors, do not know what additives, preservatives or adjuvant

are in this shot and therefore.....

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by Greg Ciola

" (Whatever situation we examine), the conclusion is in every case the

same: that vaccination is a gigantic delusion; that it has never saved a

single life; but that it has been the cause of so much disease, so many

deaths, such a vast amount of utterly needless and altogether undeserved

suffering, that it will be classed by the coming generation among the

greatest errors of an ignorant and prejudiced age, and its penal enforcement

the foulest blot on the generally beneficent course of legislation during

our century. " -----Alfred Russel Wallace [book 1898] Vaccination A Delusion.

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The problem, Jagannath is quite simple. Doctors these days don't care enough about their patients to ask - either that or they have been brainwashed to remove all thought or caring. Those that do care are professionally eliminated. A letter in the BMJ tells it as it is. The day of the questioning doctor is over:http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/333/7576/1027#148966THE BEAST IS OURSELVES Of course e Fugh-Berman

is correct that we need to bite something tender and to get out of that lap. But we are fighting the wrong beast. The beast is not the pharmaceutical industry - it is ourselves. Pharmaceutical companies sell products under the banner of science. But their only raison d'être is to make money. Industry has to balance genuine hypothesis testing and transparency against commercial interests and the financial consequences of dishonesty. This is not in itself a criticism - it is a simple fact. It is also of course true that the industry provides products which are often beneficial to our patients. It is equally evident that many actions of industry have not resulted in benefit, and have instead caused harm. More importantly, we are often completely

unable to assess the degree of harm, because information is hidden by gag clauses, the threat of litigation, and cozy commercial arrangements between the regulators and industry (1,2). We, as doctors, have created the atmosphere which has allowed companies to malfunction. We have allowed industry to subvert the rules of science (3). We have watched quietly as governments and academics have colluded with industry to hide information critical to our patients. We have remained silent as our medical schools have churned out graduates who have no knowledge of the dilemmas and scandals of medicine. We have allowed many of our medical journals to become corrupted and timid. We have remained silent as the General Medical Council and other bodies charged with maintaining integrity have taken action against doctors for raising questions of integrity, while ignoring serious concerns brought to their

attention (4). We have failed to support our colleagues who have raised concerns. The soft parts that need biting may well be our own. Aubrey Blumsohn Aubrey Blumsohn, Consultant Sheffield Teaching Hospitals, S5 7AU 1) Godlee F. (2006) Can We Tame the Monster? "Drug companies should not be allowed to evaluate their own products." BMJ 2006;333 http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/333/7558/0-f 2) Healy D (2006). Did regulators fail over selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors? BMJ 333: 92-95. 3) Blumsohn A. (2006)Authorship, ghost-science, access to data and control of

the pharmaceutical scientific literature: who stands behind the word? American Association for the Advancement of Science, Professional Ethics Report Vol XIX (3) http://www.aaas.org/spp/sfrl/per/per46.pdf 4) Wilmshurst P. (2006) The General Medical Council - a Personal View. Cardiology News Oct/Nov 2006 14-15 http://www.pinpointmedical.com/cardiology/article_archive/2006/ON06_gmc.pdf Competing interests: Involved in a dispute with Procter and Gamble Pharmaceuticals over hiding of research data and research Integrity. <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2133061/">http://www.slate.com/id/2133061/</a> Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01@...> wrote: Flu Shot Dangers Far Outweigh BenefitsFirst, let us all agree that the flu is an inconvenience and usually not life threatening. The only time it is life threatening is if someone is immune deficient. When you consider what is in the shot and how it is made, the toxic ingredients and additives are much worse for the body than the illness. Most people, including doctors, do not know what additives, preservatives or adjuvant are in this shot and therefore.....http://www.newswithviews.com/Ciola/greg.htmby Greg Ciola"(Whatever situation we examine), the conclusion is in every case the same: that vaccination is a gigantic delusion; that it has never saved a single life; but that it has been the cause of so much disease, so many deaths, such a vast amount of utterly needless and altogether undeserved suffering, that it will be classed by the coming generation among the greatest errors of an ignorant and prejudiced age, and its penal enforcement the foulest blot on the generally beneficent course of legislation during our century."-----Alfred Russel Wallace [book 1898] Vaccination A Delusion.

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