Re: Constipation Still a Problem

October 2, 2006

Even though it seems that he has not had any gut problems, I also

thought this to be the case with my kids. I was wrong, they both

have yeast issues. It became more pronounced with chelation. If I

don't give them something for yeast along with probiotics daily,

they both get constipated. Is he on probiotics? If so, it might be

time to try Grapefruit seed extract or something for yeast. Most of

us have yeast and don't even know it, and this is a common cause of

chronic constipation. If I take my son off of either one of these he

will need an enema in two days. Also, is he dairy free?

My son cannot maintain regular bowel movements if he eats any dairy.

It does not hurt to increase the magnesium and C along with this. My

son takes 2 grams of C and he is 40 pounds. He also takes 400mg a

mag but neither one cause him to have lose stools. So it would seem

that a 7 year old could tolerate more of those. You can actually

increase the C until he gets loose stools and then back it down

until stools are normal. That would be his dose.

>

> My ds has been having constipation issues ever since we started

> supplements in July. I have changed the calcium carbonate to

> citrate, he takes 400 mg mag citrate daily, 2 gr vitamin C daily.

I

> have never known him to have any issues with yeast, which I have

> read can cause problems with this, but he takes 1 Tbsp coconut oil

> daily to help combat yeast if it arises. We have tried senna,

> increasing mag, raisins, even milk of magnesia the last two days,

> but nothing seems to work. I have had to give him enemas three

> times in the last 3 months because he became impacted and nothing

> else seemed to work. I really don't like to do this. We have

never

> had this problem before. I have cut back on the B vitamins in

case

> they were causing problems, but no luck. I am trying to increase

> his water intake, but he doesn't drink water easily. We have done

9

> rounds of chelation. I am really getting worried about this, and

> may have do suspend chelation until it gets straightened out, but

I

> don't want to. He is 7 yo and showing slow but steady progress on

> chelation. I have read that enzymes can help some kids with this.

He

> has never taken enzymes, and has never had any gut problems. What

> enzymes would be best? Any other ideas to get him regular and

keep

> him that way?

>

> I have learned so much from everyone here, and I am so thankful I

> found this group.

>

> Carmen

>

October 3, 2006

> My ds has been having constipation issues ever since we started

> supplements in July. I have changed the calcium carbonate to

> citrate, he takes 400 mg mag citrate daily, 2 gr vitamin C daily.

I

> have never known him to have any issues with yeast, which I have

> read can cause problems with this, but he takes 1 Tbsp coconut oil

> daily to help combat yeast if it arises. We have tried senna,

> increasing mag, raisins, even milk of magnesia the last two days,

> but nothing seems to work. I have had to give him enemas three

> times in the last 3 months because he became impacted and nothing

> else seemed to work. I really don't like to do this. We have

never

> had this problem before. I have cut back on the B vitamins in

case

> they were causing problems, but no luck. I am trying to increase

> his water intake, but he doesn't drink water easily. We have done

9

> rounds of chelation. I am really getting worried about this, and

> may have do suspend chelation until it gets straightened out, but

I

> don't want to. He is 7 yo and showing slow but steady progress on

> chelation. I have read that enzymes can help some kids with this.

He

> has never taken enzymes, and has never had any gut problems. What

> enzymes would be best? Any other ideas to get him regular and

keep

> him that way?

>

> I have learned so much from everyone here, and I am so thankful I

> found this group.

>

> Carmen

going on the SCD diet has really helped me with constipation.

-S

October 3, 2006

I use oxypowder and it works great. My 45 lb. daughter takes 1/2 capsule every

other day.

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October 3, 2006

>

> My ds has been having constipation issues ever since we started

> supplements in July.

Several supplements are very constipating. I wrote the ones that

affected my kids here

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

>>I have read that enzymes can help some kids with this. He

> has never taken enzymes, and has never had any gut problems. What

> enzymes would be best?

I used HNI with much success

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

October 3, 2006

Thanks for all the replies! I think we may have a yeast problem

after all. I checked his mouth and he seems to have a little bit of

white on the roof of his mouth. I have never noticed it before, but

he's not the most cooperative about letting me look in his

mouth. I guess I will try the GSE and probiotics and see if that

helps. What is an affordable yet effective brand of probiotics?

Are the capsule forms tolerated well when mixed in something? He

does not swallow pills yet. We have never used probiotics before,

and the supplements we have bought so far are starting to strain the

budget because we have had to change them several times.

I will also try the prune juice in grape juice. I used to give

diluted prune juice until he refused to drink it, but I never tried

it mixed with another juice. I might be able to get him to drink it.

Although he is 7, he only weighs 45 lbs. I have been concerned

about thyroid issues since he has always been so small (very small

when born, and autistic since birth), but I don't think my doc will

order the tests without some symptoms showing. I have noticed that

his temp usually is below 98. What symptoms usually present with

thyroid issues that would be good justification for testing? His

ped is an old school doc, and I haven't approached him about the

mercury issue. I don't think he will be very receptive to it. Does

anyone know of any docs around the Oklahoma City area that would be

open to running the tests? There are several I would like to run,

and I have insurance which should pay. We are doing chelation on

our own, and considering the bad protocols some of the docs out

there are using, I think I would rather keep it that way. I would

just like to have a doc to run tests along the way. There are no

DAN! docs very close to us, and traveling very far is not a good

option for us right now.

I think the parental experience on this group is the best resource I

could have found, along with Andy's protocol. I've learned a lot,

and have a lot to learn. Thanks for everything!

Carmen

> >

> > My ds has been having constipation issues ever since we started

> > supplements in July. I have changed the calcium carbonate to

> > citrate, he takes 400 mg mag citrate daily, 2 gr vitamin C

daily.

> I

> > have never known him to have any issues with yeast, which I have

> > read can cause problems with this, but he takes 1 Tbsp coconut

oil

> > daily to help combat yeast if it arises. We have tried senna,

> > increasing mag, raisins, even milk of magnesia the last two

days,

> > but nothing seems to work. I have had to give him enemas three

> > times in the last 3 months because he became impacted and

nothing

> > else seemed to work. I really don't like to do this. We have

> never

> > had this problem before. I have cut back on the B vitamins in

> case

> > they were causing problems, but no luck. I am trying to

increase

> > his water intake, but he doesn't drink water easily. We have

done

> 9

> > rounds of chelation. I am really getting worried about this,

and

> > may have do suspend chelation until it gets straightened out,

but

> I

> > don't want to. He is 7 yo and showing slow but steady progress

on

> > chelation. I have read that enzymes can help some kids with

this.

> He

> > has never taken enzymes, and has never had any gut problems.

What

> > enzymes would be best? Any other ideas to get him regular and

> keep

> > him that way?

> >

> > I have learned so much from everyone here, and I am so thankful

I

> > found this group.

> >

> > Carmen

> >

>

October 4, 2006

You could do the temperature test for thyroid. Take the temperature

every morning before getting out of bed or drinking or going to the

bathroom. If it is 97.8 3 out of 4 days your child has a thyroid

problem - this is from Dr. McCandless.

>

> Thanks for all the replies! I think we may have a yeast problem

> after all. I checked his mouth and he seems to have a little bit

of

> white on the roof of his mouth. I have never noticed it before,

but

> he's not the most cooperative about letting me look in his

> mouth. I guess I will try the GSE and probiotics and see if

that

> helps. What is an affordable yet effective brand of probiotics?

> Are the capsule forms tolerated well when mixed in something? He

> does not swallow pills yet. We have never used probiotics before,

> and the supplements we have bought so far are starting to strain

the

> budget because we have had to change them several times.

>

> I will also try the prune juice in grape juice. I used to give

> diluted prune juice until he refused to drink it, but I never

tried

> it mixed with another juice. I might be able to get him to drink

it.

>

> Although he is 7, he only weighs 45 lbs. I have been concerned

> about thyroid issues since he has always been so small (very small

> when born, and autistic since birth), but I don't think my doc

will

> order the tests without some symptoms showing. I have noticed

that

> his temp usually is below 98. What symptoms usually present with

> thyroid issues that would be good justification for testing? His

> ped is an old school doc, and I haven't approached him about the

> mercury issue. I don't think he will be very receptive to it.

Does

> anyone know of any docs around the Oklahoma City area that would

be

> open to running the tests? There are several I would like to run,

> and I have insurance which should pay. We are doing chelation on

> our own, and considering the bad protocols some of the docs out

> there are using, I think I would rather keep it that way. I would

> just like to have a doc to run tests along the way. There are no

> DAN! docs very close to us, and traveling very far is not a good

> option for us right now.

>

> I think the parental experience on this group is the best resource

I

> could have found, along with Andy's protocol. I've learned a lot,

> and have a lot to learn. Thanks for everything!

>

> Carmen

>

October 4, 2006

Not sure I can answer all your questions, but I will help with what

I can. For probiotics we are using Jarrow capsules. They are about

$7 for 100 caps. We got them at the health food store. Stick with

probiotics that come in the refrigerator and have strain numbers in

the billions. They seem to work fine opening them. We open and put

them in with my sons' other supplements that he drinks. No pills

here either.

Yes, white tongue, or white anything in the mouth is a good

indicator of yeast. I usually check my kids mouths when in doubt.

A low morning temp is indicative of thyroid problems. As is skin

conditions, hair loss, constipation, etc. Tell the doc to just humor

you and run a complete thyroid panel not just TSH. Tell him just to

ease a worried mom 's mind. Usually they will do it. You could also

have the ped refer you to a pediatric endocrinologist who will know

what to look for and what to test. You might also seek out some

holistic docs are just try a younger pediatrician. But with his

weight I would suspect something myself. My son just turned 4 and

weights 42 pounds. Hope this helps.

> > >

> > > My ds has been having constipation issues ever since we

started

> > > supplements in July. I have changed the calcium carbonate to

> > > citrate, he takes 400 mg mag citrate daily, 2 gr vitamin C

> daily.

> > I

> > > have never known him to have any issues with yeast, which I

have

> > > read can cause problems with this, but he takes 1 Tbsp coconut

> oil

> > > daily to help combat yeast if it arises. We have tried senna,

> > > increasing mag, raisins, even milk of magnesia the last two

> days,

> > > but nothing seems to work. I have had to give him enemas

three

> > > times in the last 3 months because he became impacted and

> nothing

> > > else seemed to work. I really don't like to do this. We have

> > never

> > > had this problem before. I have cut back on the B vitamins in

> > case

> > > they were causing problems, but no luck. I am trying to

> increase

> > > his water intake, but he doesn't drink water easily. We have

> done

> > 9

> > > rounds of chelation. I am really getting worried about this,

> and

> > > may have do suspend chelation until it gets straightened out,

> but

> > I

> > > don't want to. He is 7 yo and showing slow but steady

progress

> on

> > > chelation. I have read that enzymes can help some kids with

> this.

> > He

> > > has never taken enzymes, and has never had any gut problems.

> What

> > > enzymes would be best? Any other ideas to get him regular and

> > keep

> > > him that way?

> > >

> > > I have learned so much from everyone here, and I am so

thankful

> I

> > > found this group.

> > >

> > > Carmen

> > >

> >

>

October 4, 2006

If you want to knock the yeast down even more effectively, do something like

this :

First thing in the morning give 2 Candex or 2 No-Fenol or 1 of each.

Wait ½ hour and then give a couple drops of GSE w/small amount of Orange

Juice

Wait at least ½ hour and then give large dose of Pro-biotics

In the evening do the same thing just before bed.

Good Luck !

Neil

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