Re: chelating with glutathioine?

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Glutathione is not a chelator.

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Glutathione is not a heavy metal chelator. DMSA, DMPS, and Alpha Lipoic Acid are

heavy metal chelators.

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This could be a good news !!!!!

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No whey!

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" Toxic metals that are not eliminated may build up in the

brain. Plasma glutathione has been found to be lower in children with autism,

particularly, in children with autism who have regressed. We want to clearly

establish that raising glutathione levels in these children will improve their

ability to detoxify these substances and in that way improve some of their

symptoms. "

According to Andy Cutler low glutathione levels can be directly related to the

fact that toxic people are using more of it, so low glutathione can not be

simply isolated to autistic children and because of it's non-function as a

chelating agent must be ruled out as curative treatment. As I understand it,

also by supplementing glutathione you are actually encouraging the body to

produce less of it.

Therefore until you actually get going with chelating agents you are not

addressing the root cause of low glutathione levels in toxic people. So

glutathione supplementation is non-curative, because as stated glutathione is

not a heavy metal chelator.

We don't need to beat around the bush and we don't need to waste time with

people who have no interest in curative solutions to our children's toxicity

problems. These people know or at least should know that no other heavy metals

degenerate brain tissue in the manner that mercury does. The Calgary group

studying neurofibril destruction found that none of the other heavy metals fried

neurons the way that mercury does.

Mercury is the government's injected heavy metal of choice causing the negative

neurological outcomes a.k.a. autism. For the government to assert " it all gets

pooped out " is about as scientifically sound as insisting on ethylmercury be

injected into infants and toddlers in the first place.

[ ] Re: chelating with glutathioine?

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No one is advocating the use of GSH in place of pharamceutical

chelators, rahter thay are there to help assist the process.

Glutathione doesn't chelate mercury. That's 100% true. In a strict

chemical sense, the bonds formed between metals and the thiol group

of gluatathoine are not chelation style bonding. But they don't have

to be chelation bonds for metal to be trapped and excreted.

Glutathione does bind free mercury and it helps the human body to

excrete such metal toxins. The average human body removes loads of

toxins every day without resorting to DMSA, DMPS, etc.

GSH is a a key part of this system. So, it can help our kids to

detox.

Also, it's critical to reducing the oxidative damage found within

ASD kids.

And the project is looking to increase glutathione production, not

to supplement it directly.

I think it's a valuable study. Jill is doing some fantastic

work in this area. It's well thought out, coherent science and we

need more of this.

Well, that's my opinion.

Liam

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I don't think you can make a blanket statement that raising

glutathione levels in ASD kids wont help whether it is considered a

chelator or not. Every kid is different and I'm sure there are some

out there that are doing well with glutathione supplementation, or

one of the precursor like cystine or even the Lifewave patch. You

just wont know unless you try.

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> We don't need to beat around the bush and we don't need to waste

time with people who have no interest in curative solutions to our

>children's toxicity problems. These people know or at least should

know that no other heavy metals degenerate brain tissue in the manner

that mercury does. The Calgary group studying neurofibril destruction

>found that none of the other heavy metals fried neurons the way that

mercury does.

Dr. Jill , Professor of Pediatrics at University of Arkansas for

Medical Sciences, will be a co-investigator. Dr. is noted for

her

landmark studies in autism and toxicology and is among the first

scientists to

point out the links with low glutathione levels.

This is from Dr Deth...

Because mercury lowers glutathione levels by binding to regulatory

thiols (such as the one in UBE3A), it causes oxidative stress, and

the cellular response to oxidative stress is to inhibit methionine

synthase. This inhibition increases homocysteine and S-

adenosylhomocysteine (SAH) levels, and SAH inhibits all methylation

reactions, including DNA methylation, by competing with the methyl

donor S-adenosylmethionine (SAM).

Kerbob, these people who are doing these sudies are VERY devoted to

mercury poisoned children. They are on OUR side. Yes, mercury

destroy neurons, The neurons that we need to support chelation.

Here is Dr Jill study on Thimerosal

http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/library/%20Neurotox%

2011-04%20Thimerosal-Glutathione%20Depletion.pdf

I know it is hard to trust anyone in the medical field, But there are

people in this world who REALLY do care and are concerned. Dr.

and Dr. Deth are two very devoted medical professionals to our

children.

Donna

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It would be interesting to find our how different is Immunocal (if

any) as compared to a high quality whey protein like EAS or Designer

Protein. Whey protein is good for you, autism or not.

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This question of using glutathionine to chelate or as part of

chelation was recently discussed on frequent dose chelation.

The consensus was that glutathionine should not be taken by mercury

toxic individuals and that it does not chelate anything.

This is in respect to treating adults mind you. You may wish to go

to that group and search the old posts as an FYI

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