Re: sensitivity or lack of in hands

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is possible. Many on the spectrum/with metal toxicity have one or more

senses that is hyper- and/or hypersensitivity: auditory, tactile, olfactory,

visual, and/or taste (gustatory).

S S

<p>Listmates,<br>

<br>

Is it possible that a child can feel and enjoy light touch on his <br>

hands, but not be able to feel pain on his hands? Also, would you <br>

expect a child who doesn't feel pain on his hands to have excellent <br>

fine motor skills with his hands? Are there different receptors/nerves <br>

for these kinds of things, or some other explanation?<br>

<br>

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question.<br>

<br>

Anita<br>

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In a message dated 13/12/2006 02:29:37 GMT Standard Time,

mysuperteach@... writes:

Is it possible that a child can feel and enjoy light touch on his

hands, but not be able to feel pain on his hands? Also, would you

expect a child who doesn't feel pain on his hands to have excellent

fine motor skills with his hands? Are there different receptors/nerves

for these kinds of things, or some other explanation?

This question made me think of peripheral neuropathy, from alot of B6 or

P5P? Altered hand sensation is how it manifests initially.

Just a thought!!

Joy

[Guest guest]

There is a well documented numbness in the hands and feet from

excessive vit b6 intake and also I think numbness and pain tolerance

is linked to Hg poisoning. My own son used to have a very, VERY high

pain threshold when he was at his poorliest.

Sue

-- In , " Anita Kugelstadt "

<mysuperteach@...> wrote:

>

> Listmates,

>

> Is it possible that a child can feel and enjoy light touch on his

> hands, but not be able to feel pain on his hands? Also, would you

> expect a child who doesn't feel pain on his hands to have

excellent

> fine motor skills with his hands? Are there different

receptors/nerves

> for these kinds of things, or some other explanation?

>

> Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question.

>

> Anita

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this information might be helpful, but before I had

my fillings removed I was losing function in my hands. I was

dropping things all the time, not able to grip well, poor

coordination, I was even losing my ability to type. I saw a rapid

decline in the function of my hands over a few years. I had no idea

why. After doing some research and getting into the amalgam

poisoning issues....then having all my fillings removed...

the function in my hands has returned to normal. And this happend

within days of amalgam removal. As did the function in my feet/legs.

My legs were getting clumsier, numbness, triping, poor muscle

control, they were cold all the time as to the point that my toe

nails were always blue. I saw a neuromuscular specialist and all he

said was that some sort of neuropathy was going on. He did not know

what was causing it. While I realize that autistic kids are not

receiving daily Hg as from fillings, it does do things to the

neuromuscular system. It messes with sensitivity, ability to feel

pain, muscle control, etc. I saw all my symptoms disappear with

removal of my fillings. One can hope the same might happen with

chelation for others sources of Hg.

> <p>Listmates,<br>

> <br>

> Is it possible that a child can feel and enjoy light touch on his

<br>

> hands, but not be able to feel pain on his hands? Also, would you

<br>

> expect a child who doesn't feel pain on his hands to have

excellent <br>

> fine motor skills with his hands? Are there different

receptors/nerves <br>

> for these kinds of things, or some other explanation?<br>

> <br>

> Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question.<br>

> <br>

> Anita<br>

>

>

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Sounds like MS symptoms which mercury poisoning is often diagnosed as.

S S

<p>I don't know if this information might be helpful, but before I

had <br>

my fillings removed I was losing function in my hands. I was <br>

dropping things all the time, not able to grip well, poor <br>

coordination, I was even losing my ability to type. I saw a rapid <br>

decline in the function of my hands over a few years. I had no idea <br>

why. After doing some research and getting into the amalgam <br>

poisoning issues....then having all my fillings removed...<br>

the function in my hands has returned to normal. And this happend <br>

within days of amalgam removal. As did the function in my feet/legs. <br>

My legs were getting clumsier, numbness, triping, poor muscle <br>

control, they were cold all the time as to the point that my toe <br>

nails were always blue. I saw a neuromuscular specialist and all he <br>

said was that some sort of neuropathy was going on. He did not know <br>

what was causing it. While I realize that autistic kids are not <br>

receiving daily Hg as from fillings, it does do things to the <br>

neuromuscular system. It messes with sensitivity, ability to feel <br>

pain, muscle control, etc. I saw all my symptoms disappear with <br>

removal of my fillings. One can hope the same might happen with <br>

chelation for others sources of Hg.<br>

<br>

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Thanks to everyone for replying. I know that high pain tolerance isn't

uncommon in our kids and I did check in to the B6 aspect which wouldn't

seem to be at play here.

I guess I'm confused because I canNOT understand how someone can have

such a high tolerance for pain while at the same time enjoy very light

touch on the exact same place. Wouldn't one preclude the other?

Anita

[Guest guest]

I think this is classic SID sensory integration dysfunction. One of my kids

doesn't feel much

pain at all--slammed her finger in the car door and didn't even say anything or

cry. But at

school she has had trouble with people touching her lightly just to see her

reaction--she

jumps and flinches from the lightest of touch. Doctor exams and dental exams

have always

been difficult to impossible.

Sue

>

> Thanks to everyone for replying. I know that high pain tolerance isn't

> uncommon in our kids and I did check in to the B6 aspect which wouldn't

> seem to be at play here.

>

> I guess I'm confused because I canNOT understand how someone can have

> such a high tolerance for pain while at the same time enjoy very light

> touch on the exact same place. Wouldn't one preclude the other?

>

> Anita

>

[Guest guest]

Is this a new phenomenon or has he always had this ?

There is a rare genetic condition that people can feel normally but not feel

pain.

I just heard about it on NPR today.

I think it is unlikely that your child would have this, but it does exist.

Neil

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On Behalf Of joymroscoe@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:32 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] sensitivity or lack of in hands

In a message dated 13/12/2006 02:29:37 GMT Standard Time,

mysuperteach@ <mailto:mysuperteach%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com writes:

Is it possible that a child can feel and enjoy light touch on his

hands, but not be able to feel pain on his hands? Also, would you

expect a child who doesn't feel pain on his hands to have excellent

fine motor skills with his hands? Are there different receptors/nerves

for these kinds of things, or some other explanation?

This question made me think of peripheral neuropathy, from alot of B6 or

P5P? Altered hand sensation is how it manifests initially.

Just a thought!!

Joy

[Guest guest]

In a group of Moms of ASD children, (random group of about 6 Moms) the topic

of carpal tunnel came up. About 75% of us had had tendonitis or carpal

tunnel after having our baby and some of us had to stop nursing the child

who became ASD.

Carpal tunnel can be corrected by B6. But my DH suspects that tendonitis/etc

is partly caused by merc poisoning.

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On Behalf Of sue_lwsn

Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:06 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: sensitivity or lack of in hands

There is a well documented numbness in the hands and feet from

excessive vit b6 intake and also I think numbness and pain tolerance

is linked to Hg poisoning. My own son used to have a very, VERY high

pain threshold when he was at his poorliest.

Sue

-- In @ <mailto: %40>

, " Anita Kugelstadt "

<mysuperteach@...> wrote:

>

> Listmates,

>

> Is it possible that a child can feel and enjoy light touch on his

> hands, but not be able to feel pain on his hands? Also, would you

> expect a child who doesn't feel pain on his hands to have

excellent

> fine motor skills with his hands? Are there different

receptors/nerves

> for these kinds of things, or some other explanation?

>

> Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question.

>

> Anita

>

[Guest guest]

Lots of autie kids have this but it resolves with chelating.

Barb

Re: [ ] sensitivity or lack of in hands

In a message dated 13/12/2006 02:29:37 GMT Standard Time,

mysuperteach@ <mailto:mysuperteach%40hotmail.com> hotmail.com writes:

Is it possible that a child can feel and enjoy light touch on his

hands, but not be able to feel pain on his hands? Also, would you

expect a child who doesn't feel pain on his hands to have excellent

fine motor skills with his hands? Are there different receptors/nerves

for these kinds of things, or some other explanation?

This question made me think of peripheral neuropathy, from alot of B6 or

P5P? Altered hand sensation is how it manifests initially.

Just a thought!!

Joy

[Guest guest]

>

> Lots of autie kids have this but it resolves with chelating.

Yep. Anita, I just remembered something that might fit with your

situation. When n was maybe 3, he would scream if a raindrop fell

on him (I mean a warm, spring raindrop!) and said it felt like knives.

But when his shoes didn't fit he had a bleeding blister without even

noticing.

Not the same as liking soft touch, but still, hypersensitive and

hyposensitive at the same time. It's all disappeared now.

Nell