Re: Re: Best way to make Pro-Biotics thrive

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Just to add a bit more :

a)I recalled Dana saying some kids don't tolerate FOS. I know even as at

the last

few months, some probiotics makers are introducing new packages with FOS

added. Country-Life even has an AM+PM Dophilus which claimed that with

some

added herbs (or stuff), they could enhance the effectiveness of their

probiotics

by up to fifty times (say if each serving has 3 billion CFUs, it would

give the effects

of up to 150billion plain probiotics). My verdict after trying it : it

helps a lot to ease

my constipation but my tummy felt a bit weird(not pain but a bit bloated

& it has a

sort of herbal smell) after taking it

b)Threelac claimed it has it's proprietary technique to keep their

probiotics alive :

they added a harmless yeast so that their 20 million per sachet

probiotics can feed

on the yeast while transitting through our intestines & thus claiming

making it one

of the most potent yeast killers around. From Amazon website, Threelac

is one of

the top-selling probiotics around but I'm not sure what it means

I personally dont mind paying 5-10% more for the FOS if it doesn't do any

harm but

I'm not in favour of using Threelac as the $/billion CFU is something I

can't accept -

everyone has the right to make something for the efforts they put in but I

dislike it

when the profit margin is exorbitant. More than 15 years ago, many of the

major

computer makers are selling their machines at >10 times of their cost

(though

computers are supposed to make companies more efficient) but today none of

those computer makers are making that sort of margin anymore

On 12/10/06, lbdinterest <lbdinterest@...> wrote:

>

> In < %40>,

> Neil Willet wrote:

> >

> > I think I read somewhere that some pro-biotics are packaged with

> > certain substances that help them to grow and thrive.

> >

> > I wonder if there is something I could give with the pro-biotics

> > that would improve their success rate ?

>

> Neil,

>

> You don't know me, but I read a few if the autism lists from time to

> time.

>

> About the pro-biotics. There was a fad, a few years ago, for

> something called FOS (fructo-oligo-saccharides). I don't think that

> panned out, so if someone suggests it, be polite (as you always are)

> but check it out. I don't think it would do harm, I just think it

> turned out to be useless.

>

> However . . . there is something I keep meaning to try out myself.

> (But life keeps getting in the way, right?) If you try this, would

> you please let me know your results?

>

> I read something a while back, maybe a year or two ago, about

> something called cellobiose -- a material which various gut bugs

> (friendly flora) like, and which they use as food. Humans can't

> digest it; it's a byproduct of cellulose, in some cases.

>

> However, it seems be a delicacy for gut bacteria. See:

> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-06/tifg-grr052806.php

>

> " The new study shows that resident microbes in the colon actively

> synthesize vitamins and break down plant sugars, such as xylan and

> cellobiose (similar to cellulose), which humans could not otherwise

> digest because we lack the necessary enzymes. Cellobiose, for

> instance, is a key component of plant cell walls and thus is found

> in most edible plants, such as apples and carrots.

>

> BUT . . . I know that kids with autism aren't eating many apples or

> carrots. Or even if they are willing to, perhaps their gut won't

> break them down properly, precisely because of the lack of gut

> bacteria.

>

> Cellobiose is found in chitosan. Are you familiar with that? It's

> available in gelcaps, and it would be possible to start with a very

> small amount. Open a capsule and pour a little bit into a spoon,

> together with some pro-biotic. Mix with some applesauce, or

> whatever.

>

> The good news, as far as I'm concerned (and I had forgotten this) is

> that cellobiose has an anti-bacterial effect. That is, good bugs

> like it and bad bugs don't like it. Twice the bang for your buck.

> See: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=16369423.

>

> And that's it for the moment.

>

> Neil, I would appreciate it if you would acknowledge receiving

> this. Many people don't - and I've begun to wonder if it's them

> (too busy, or just rude) or if perhaps it's the ocean of spam

> drowning legitimate e-mails.

>

> Best regards,

>

> P.F. Jennings

>

>

>