Re: Vit A, CLO & thyroid problems - REBECCA

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Sorry, meant to answer this, then forgot. I don't know a lot about it other than

you need a fully functioning thyroid to absorb the VLFA (very long chain fatty

acids).

We always had the bumps on the upper arms until she started taking Armour. Other

people have reported that their kids lost these bumps on Krill Oil, could be

that it's easier to absorb? I don't know.

We had the side-glancing, but only when she was pointing things out to us, at

age 3, I think if I remember correctly. We never saw it after about a month on

the clo and the extra retinyl acetate Vitamin A.

Not tolerating clo for some can mean severe irritability or an inability to

digest it.

Hope that helps,

[ ] Vit A, CLO & thyroid problems - REBECCA

Hi ,

I saw in a post yesterday discussing different forms of Vit A and you

mentioned people with thyroid problems not tolerating CLO. Could you

tell me more about that? What does " not tolerating " look like? My

son never seems to have any obvious problems with it, but has very low

vit A levels, severe side-glancing and bad gut issues despite 2.5

years of Vit A (CLO & mycelized). He still has the bumps on arms,

etc. We have family hx of thyroid problems, has had antibodies, etc.

in the past and we are looking into treating his thyroid. I would

love to hear more if there is a connection between his low vit A and

thyroid. Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . We just don't seem to be able to digest it based on

continued low Vit A levels, visual problems, etc. I never heard the

thyroid connection before. Very interesting...

>

> Hi ,

>

> Sorry, meant to answer this, then forgot. I don't know a lot about

it other than you need a fully functioning thyroid to absorb the

VLFA (very long chain fatty acids).

>

> We always had the bumps on the upper arms until she started taking

Armour. Other people have reported that their kids lost these bumps

on Krill Oil, could be that it's easier to absorb? I don't know.

>

> We had the side-glancing, but only when she was pointing things

out to us, at age 3, I think if I remember correctly. We never saw

it after about a month on the clo and the extra retinyl acetate

Vitamin A.

>

> Not tolerating clo for some can mean severe irritability or an

inability to digest it.

>

> Hope that helps,

>

>

>

> [ ] Vit A, CLO & thyroid problems - REBECCA

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I saw in a post yesterday discussing different forms of Vit A

and you

> mentioned people with thyroid problems not tolerating CLO. Could

you

> tell me more about that? What does " not tolerating " look like?

My

> son never seems to have any obvious problems with it, but has

very low

> vit A levels, severe side-glancing and bad gut issues despite

2.5

> years of Vit A (CLO & mycelized). He still has the bumps on

arms,

> etc. We have family hx of thyroid problems, has had antibodies,

etc.

> in the past and we are looking into treating his thyroid. I

would

> love to hear more if there is a connection between his low vit A

and

> thyroid. Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi ,

>

> I saw in a post yesterday discussing different forms of Vit A and you

> mentioned people with thyroid problems not tolerating CLO.

I'm hypothyroid and tolerate CLO without any problem.

>I would

> love to hear more if there is a connection between his low vit A and

> thyroid.

Well, if I have this right, if the G-alpha protein defect (which CLO

can fix) is causing trouble with the calcium channels, then yes, the

thyroid could be affected, because calcium channels control what goes

in and what goes out of cells all over the body.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Well, we have calcium channel problems, but digest the clo, no problem, with the

Armour. Are you treating your hypo, Nell, as she did not digest it properly

without the Armour?

[ ] Re: Vit A, CLO & thyroid problems - REBECCA

>

> Hi ,

>

> I saw in a post yesterday discussing different forms of Vit A and you

> mentioned people with thyroid problems not tolerating CLO.

I'm hypothyroid and tolerate CLO without any problem.

>I would

> love to hear more if there is a connection between his low vit A and

> thyroid.

Well, if I have this right, if the G-alpha protein defect (which CLO

can fix) is causing trouble with the calcium channels, then yes, the

thyroid could be affected, because calcium channels control what goes

in and what goes out of cells all over the body.

Nell

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, we have calcium channel problems, but digest the clo, no

problem, with the Armour. Are you treating your hypo, Nell, as she did

not digest it properly without the Armour?

Yep, I've been taking Armour for a few years now. It's hell to get the

dosage right though. I've wondered whether chelation makes

hypothyroidism worse in the short term because of metals dragging out.

Nell

[Guest guest]

I've wondered and am hoping the same, although I was talking to a dr about two

months ago who told me that about 85% of hypothyroidism is due to autoimmune

problems and that if that is the case then thyroid replacement would be for

life. Hoping it is short term because you are right, getting the dosage right

is very difficult and keeps changing, it appears.

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From: lanellici

>

> Well, we have calcium channel problems, but digest the clo, no

problem, with the Armour. Are you treating your hypo, Nell, as she did

not digest it properly without the Armour?

Yep, I've been taking Armour for a few years now. It's hell to get the

dosage right though. I've wondered whether chelation makes

hypothyroidism worse in the short term because of metals dragging out.

Nell

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks . We just don't seem to be able to digest it based on

> continued low Vit A levels, visual problems, etc. I never heard the

> thyroid connection before. Very interesting...

My son did not tolerate CLO or any EFAs until I added mito cocktail

and amino acids, and preloaded with Omega 6. I wrote about it here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Really, ? Wouldn't autoimmune problems be resolved with full

chelation - in theory, at least? Blech. Sliver bullet, where art

thou??

René

>

> I've wondered and am hoping the same, although I was talking to a dr

about two months ago who told me that about 85% of hypothyroidism is

due to autoimmune problems and that if that is the case then thyroid

replacement would be for life.

[Guest guest]

The way it was explained to me is that if thyroid problems are due to autoimmune

issues the thyroid has to be suppressed for at least 7 years to stop making the

antibodies against the thyroid.

I hope you are right.

[ ] Re: Vit A, CLO & thyroid problems - REBECCA

Really, ? Wouldn't autoimmune problems be resolved with full

chelation - in theory, at least? Blech. Sliver bullet, where art

thou??

René

>

> I've wondered and am hoping the same, although I was talking to a dr

about two months ago who told me that about 85% of hypothyroidism is

due to autoimmune problems and that if that is the case then thyroid

replacement would be for life.

[Guest guest]

,

Are you talking about anti-thyroid peroxidase antibodies or is there a different

mechanism involved?

Jim

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The way it was explained to me is that if thyroid problems are due to autoimmune

issues the thyroid has to be suppressed for at least 7 years to stop making the

antibodies against the thyroid.

I hope you are right.

[ ] Re: Vit A, CLO & thyroid problems - REBECCA

Really, ? Wouldn't autoimmune problems be resolved with full

chelation - in theory, at least? Blech. Sliver bullet, where art

thou??

René

>

> I've wondered and am hoping the same, although I was talking to a dr

about two months ago who told me that about 85% of hypothyroidism is

due to autoimmune problems and that if that is the case then thyroid

replacement would be for life.

[Guest guest]

I think I am, Jim, was explained to me that sometimes, after a long time of

suppressing the thyroid, the antibodies created against the thyroid, quit

producing.

[ ] Re: Vit A, CLO & thyroid problems - REBECCA

Really, ? Wouldn't autoimmune problems be resolved with full

chelation - in theory, at least? Blech. Sliver bullet, where art

thou??

René

>

> I've wondered and am hoping the same, although I was talking to a dr

about two months ago who told me that about 85% of hypothyroidism is

due to autoimmune problems and that if that is the case then thyroid

replacement would be for life.