Re: sleep issues: valerian?

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Are you giving the melatonin half an hour before bed...and not to

early in the evening? My mom kept waking up like this. I asked her

when she was taking it..and it was too late at night. Or too early.

If she took at at 7pm, she would wake at night, and if she took it at

like 11pm she would not sleep through either.

Usually somewhere between 8:30-10pm seems to work. Also giving more if

you are giving it at the right time. Her dose was too low.

Others things to consider: Any nightime noises (furnace, etc) that

might be waking him, Antimony bedding or pjs, Try running something

like like a noise machine or humidifier to drown out other noises,

Itchy clothing, restrictive clothing, etc. Other people snoring..all

kinds of things. My son used to wake alot at night until I spent a

night in his room. And then I could see why. He could hear the furnace

going on, the toilet flushing, the shower running, the neighbors dogs

out back barking like crazy...tons of stuff that I did not hear in my

room. Just some ideas...

>

> Anyone use valerian to help with sleep? My ds goes to sleep well

> thanks to 1 mg of Melatonin, but he wakes up countless times

> throughout the night. Every time he lays there and shakes his head

> and vocally stims ( " aaaaaaah aaaaaaah " over and over). Noone is

> getting much sleep around here!! We're working hard on getting yeast

> & bacteria under control right now and seeing good improvements

there,

> but zero improvement in sleep. Phenols not much of an issue for us.

> 5-htp & GABA totally freak him out. So now I'm looking to herbals.

> Any success stories with Valerian? If so how much do you use and

what

> brand? Ds is 28 lbs.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the ideas! We actually have a loud air filter in his room,

it's been there since birth. You really can't hear any external

noises in his room unless they're very loud.

He's the early-to-bed early-to-rise type, and goes to bed around 7:30

(he's 18 mths old). I usually give the melatonin around 6:45. This

worked great for us for two months; he was sleeping through almost

every night. Then he got sick with some kind of awful virus, flu-like

but not the flu. We all got it, it was horrid, to me it felt worse

than the flu, worse than anything I've ever had except Mono. Anyway,

his sleep has been shot every since. Two rounds of DMSA caused even

more sleep problems -- now he sleeps less than ever, his naps are

shorter, and he always wakes up crying halfway through his nap and has

to cry himself back to sleep. We're agressively treating bacteria and

yeast, and have Valtrex on board for viral issues, but none of this

has improved his sleep. So basically something has changed

biomedically for him, and until I figure out what it is, I'm desperate

for some " bandaid " that will help us all get a little more sleep!

> >

> > Anyone use valerian to help with sleep? My ds goes to sleep well

> > thanks to 1 mg of Melatonin, but he wakes up countless times

> > throughout the night. Every time he lays there and shakes his head

> > and vocally stims ( " aaaaaaah aaaaaaah " over and over). Noone is

> > getting much sleep around here!! We're working hard on getting yeast

> > & bacteria under control right now and seeing good improvements

> there,

> > but zero improvement in sleep. Phenols not much of an issue for us.

> > 5-htp & GABA totally freak him out. So now I'm looking to herbals.

> > Any success stories with Valerian? If so how much do you use and

> what

> > brand? Ds is 28 lbs.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, try giving him a little bit more melatonin, try a little more each

night. to see how much he needs , we give our son 3 each night... Also try

giving him a bath with 1 cup Epsom salts and 1 cup baking soda before

bedtime. Try having him soak pouring the water over him for 30 minutes. try

to get the water as hot as he can stand it, you are trying to create a sauna

effect.. this will calm him down and get his body ready for sleep along with

the melatonin.. Use this time for reading books, finger plays, acting out

nursery rhymes or just talking. be creative and see if this works. good

luck...

Corinne vela

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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: sleep issues: valerian?

Thanks for the ideas! We actually have a loud air filter in his room,

it's been there since birth. You really can't hear any external

noises in his room unless they're very loud.

He's the early-to-bed early-to-rise type, and goes to bed around 7:30

(he's 18 mths old). I usually give the melatonin around 6:45. This

worked great for us for two months; he was sleeping through almost

every night. Then he got sick with some kind of awful virus, flu-like

but not the flu. We all got it, it was horrid, to me it felt worse

than the flu, worse than anything I've ever had except Mono. Anyway,

his sleep has been shot every since. Two rounds of DMSA caused even

more sleep problems -- now he sleeps less than ever, his naps are

shorter, and he always wakes up crying halfway through his nap and has

to cry himself back to sleep. We're agressively treating bacteria and

yeast, and have Valtrex on board for viral issues, but none of this

has improved his sleep. So basically something has changed

biomedically for him, and until I figure out what it is, I'm desperate

for some " bandaid " that will help us all get a little more sleep!

> >

> > Anyone use valerian to help with sleep? My ds goes to sleep well

> > thanks to 1 mg of Melatonin, but he wakes up countless times

> > throughout the night. Every time he lays there and shakes his head

> > and vocally stims ( " aaaaaaah aaaaaaah " over and over). Noone is

> > getting much sleep around here!! We're working hard on getting yeast

> > & bacteria under control right now and seeing good improvements

> there,

> > but zero improvement in sleep. Phenols not much of an issue for us.

> > 5-htp & GABA totally freak him out. So now I'm looking to herbals.

> > Any success stories with Valerian? If so how much do you use and

> what

> > brand? Ds is 28 lbs.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son had major night terrors on valerian and I had very very vivid

dreams and anxiety. Just our experience but I thought it worth

noting.

> > >

> > > Anyone use valerian to help with sleep? My ds goes to sleep

well

> > > thanks to 1 mg of Melatonin, but he wakes up countless times

> > > throughout the night. Every time he lays there and shakes his

head

> > > and vocally stims ( " aaaaaaah aaaaaaah " over and over). Noone

is

> > > getting much sleep around here!! We're working hard on

getting yeast

> > > & bacteria under control right now and seeing good

improvements

> > there,

> > > but zero improvement in sleep. Phenols not much of an issue

for us.

> > > 5-htp & GABA totally freak him out. So now I'm looking to

herbals.

> > > Any success stories with Valerian? If so how much do you use

and

> > what

> > > brand? Ds is 28 lbs.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks I will try this.

> > >

> > > Anyone use valerian to help with sleep? My ds goes to sleep well

> > > thanks to 1 mg of Melatonin, but he wakes up countless times

> > > throughout the night. Every time he lays there and shakes his head

> > > and vocally stims ( " aaaaaaah aaaaaaah " over and over). Noone is

> > > getting much sleep around here!! We're working hard on getting yeast

> > > & bacteria under control right now and seeing good improvements

> > there,

> > > but zero improvement in sleep. Phenols not much of an issue for us.

> > > 5-htp & GABA totally freak him out. So now I'm looking to herbals.

> > > Any success stories with Valerian? If so how much do you use and

> > what

> > > brand? Ds is 28 lbs.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yikes! I guess I at least ought to try it first before I consider

giving him any.

> >

> > Thanks for the ideas! We actually have a loud air filter in his

> room,

> > it's been there since birth. You really can't hear any external

> > noises in his room unless they're very loud.

> >

> > He's the early-to-bed early-to-rise type, and goes to bed around

> 7:30

> > (he's 18 mths old). I usually give the melatonin around 6:45.

> This

> > worked great for us for two months; he was sleeping through almost

> > every night. Then he got sick with some kind of awful virus, flu-

> like

> > but not the flu. We all got it, it was horrid, to me it felt worse

> > than the flu, worse than anything I've ever had except Mono.

> Anyway,

> > his sleep has been shot every since. Two rounds of DMSA caused

> even

> > more sleep problems -- now he sleeps less than ever, his naps are

> > shorter, and he always wakes up crying halfway through his nap and

> has

> > to cry himself back to sleep. We're agressively treating bacteria

> and

> > yeast, and have Valtrex on board for viral issues, but none of this

> > has improved his sleep. So basically something has changed

> > biomedically for him, and until I figure out what it is, I'm

> desperate

> > for some " bandaid " that will help us all get a little more sleep!

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

For my kids, waking up crying was ear infections.

Barb

[ ] Re: sleep issues: valerian?

Thanks for the ideas! We actually have a loud air filter in his room,

it's been there since birth. You really can't hear any external

noises in his room unless they're very loud.

He's the early-to-bed early-to-rise type, and goes to bed around 7:30

(he's 18 mths old). I usually give the melatonin around 6:45. This

worked great for us for two months; he was sleeping through almost

every night. Then he got sick with some kind of awful virus, flu-like

but not the flu. We all got it, it was horrid, to me it felt worse

than the flu, worse than anything I've ever had except Mono. Anyway,

his sleep has been shot every since. Two rounds of DMSA caused even

more sleep problems -- now he sleeps less than ever, his naps are

shorter, and he always wakes up crying halfway through his nap and has

to cry himself back to sleep. We're agressively treating bacteria and

yeast, and have Valtrex on board for viral issues, but none of this

has improved his sleep. So basically something has changed

biomedically for him, and until I figure out what it is, I'm desperate

for some " bandaid " that will help us all get a little more sleep!

> >

> > Anyone use valerian to help with sleep? My ds goes to sleep well

> > thanks to 1 mg of Melatonin, but he wakes up countless times

> > throughout the night. Every time he lays there and shakes his head

> > and vocally stims ( " aaaaaaah aaaaaaah " over and over). Noone is

> > getting much sleep around here!! We're working hard on getting yeast

> > & bacteria under control right now and seeing good improvements

> there,

> > but zero improvement in sleep. Phenols not much of an issue for us.

> > 5-htp & GABA totally freak him out. So now I'm looking to herbals.

> > Any success stories with Valerian? If so how much do you use and

> what

> > brand? Ds is 28 lbs.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> For my kids, waking up crying was ear infections.

>

Here also, yeast in the ears.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Well, that's what it was when he got sick a few weeks ago, and we had

to go on antibiotics yeat again. None of the alternative remedies

helped unfortunately. But the ear infection has cleared up now (doc

just doublechecked a few days ago). Now he doesn't wake up crying, he

wakes up and stims vocally for a few minutes, many times throughout

the night. Driving us batty! If it happens early in the morning

around 4:30 to 5:30, he usually completely wakes up and is not able to

go back to sleep. Then he's tired and miserable all day.

>

> For my kids, waking up crying was ear infections.

>

> Barb

> [ ] Re: sleep issues: valerian?

>

>

> Thanks for the ideas! We actually have a loud air filter in his room,

> it's been there since birth. You really can't hear any external

> noises in his room unless they're very loud.

>

> He's the early-to-bed early-to-rise type, and goes to bed around 7:30

> (he's 18 mths old). I usually give the melatonin around 6:45. This

> worked great for us for two months; he was sleeping through almost

> every night. Then he got sick with some kind of awful virus, flu-like

> but not the flu. We all got it, it was horrid, to me it felt worse

> than the flu, worse than anything I've ever had except Mono. Anyway,

> his sleep has been shot every since. Two rounds of DMSA caused even

> more sleep problems -- now he sleeps less than ever, his naps are

> shorter, and he always wakes up crying halfway through his nap and has

> to cry himself back to sleep. We're agressively treating bacteria and

> yeast, and have Valtrex on board for viral issues, but none of this

> has improved his sleep. So basically something has changed

> biomedically for him, and until I figure out what it is, I'm desperate

> for some " bandaid " that will help us all get a little more sleep!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Any way to tell? Could there be yeast in the ears but the ears look

fine when checked by a doctor? We've tried putting Mullein garlic ear

drops in when we know his ears are bothering him, but he screams

bloody murder and freaks out so badly I can't hold him down by myself

without hurting him. So ear drops are traumatic and almost impossible

for us when my husband isn't home, which is most of the time.

Anything else we can try? We're treating yeast systemically with GSE

and Diflucan. Should this also treat yeast in the ears or are ear

drops our only option?

> >

> > For my kids, waking up crying was ear infections.

> >

>

>

> Here also, yeast in the ears.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Any way to tell? Could there be yeast in the ears but the ears look

> fine when checked by a doctor?

I suppose that is possible, if the doctor is looking for signs of

bacteria only.

I was able to tell, because of the interventions I was doing at the

time. For example, many months ago [probably more than a year], two

of my kids woke up crying with ear pain, and I had recently increased

their anti-viral protocol, so I guessed it was yeast, gave oral GSE,

and the problem was resolved.

> Anything else we can try? We're treating yeast systemically with GSE

> and Diflucan. Should this also treat yeast in the ears or are ear

> drops our only option?

It worked for me. You might need to increase the dose.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi, have you taken him to an ENT SPECIALIST, Instead of just a pediatrician.

there could be something else wrong. just concerned..

CORINNE

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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 12:51 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: sleep issues: valerian?

Any way to tell? Could there be yeast in the ears but the ears look

fine when checked by a doctor? We've tried putting Mullein garlic ear

drops in when we know his ears are bothering him, but he screams

bloody murder and freaks out so badly I can't hold him down by myself

without hurting him. So ear drops are traumatic and almost impossible

for us when my husband isn't home, which is most of the time.

Anything else we can try? We're treating yeast systemically with GSE

and Diflucan. Should this also treat yeast in the ears or are ear

drops our only option?

> >

> > For my kids, waking up crying was ear infections.

> >

>

>

> Here also, yeast in the ears.

>

> Dana

>