Re: Upset whenever his sister speaks

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maybe he is sensitive to her voice if it is high pitched ( as most little

girls are) it may hurt him. High pitched noises cause pain for my daughter

like phones ringing and when other little girls laugh I know a little boy who

was sensitive to when his mom would laugh and he would cover his ears and

scream no laugh no laugh..........Some have had success with music

therapy..........So MAYBE this is the reason Is he sensitive to other noises?

Best wishes to you Jen

gol sun <golsun@...> wrote:

Hi,

My 6yo Asd son can't process auditory inputs well - only a few simple

instructions

like " go shower " , " eat " , " sit down " . There's quite a degree of rivalry

between him

& his normal(non-ASD) sister (a lot more in their younger days).

When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he would burst,

crying &

going over to hit his sister. I suspect he 'assumes' his sister is hurling

'verbal abuse'

at (or reprimanding) him as he can't understand what his sister is talking

about.

We would stop him from hitting his sister & tried to calm him down. No

matter how

we try to explain to him, he would not understand.

When other kids/adults in the family speaks loudly, it does not upset him &

he's fine.

I think the rivalry in the younger days (fighting for toys, biting each

other) is deeply

ingrained in him that he made the negative assumption when his sis speaks

loud

(even though she's talking to the adults & not directing the words at him),

am I right?

In the younger days, whenever his sis mentions his name (even to adults)

softly,

he would get mad so we've taught the sister to refer to him as " brother " &

not

to use his name. He seemed to be aware his name is being mentioned but he

doesn't know what the sis is 'talking' about.

He responds to adults when his name is being called.

Thanks for any ideas/inputs

G

[Guest guest]

That's interesting that you say that your friend's child laughs when

a noise bothered him. I am having a similar problem with my son.

He is hitting his sister (22 months) when she cries and then

laughing hysterically. I told his teacher who said he was hitting

children who cry or are loud at school. It makes no sense why he

would laugh if it is bothering him but maybe that is what is

happening! It sucks...I can't figure out any solution to keep him

from hitting her and it really makes me want to hit him for hurting

her. A nasty, vicious cycle!!!

Hi,

>

> My 6yo Asd son can't process auditory inputs well - only a few

simple

> instructions

> like " go shower " , " eat " , " sit down " . There's quite a degree of

rivalry

> between him

> & his normal(non-ASD) sister (a lot more in their younger days).

>

> When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he

would burst,

> crying &

> going over to hit his sister. I suspect he 'assumes' his sister

is hurling

> 'verbal abuse'

> at (or reprimanding) him as he can't understand what his sister

is talking

> about.

>

> We would stop him from hitting his sister & tried to calm him

down. No

> matter how

> we try to explain to him, he would not understand.

>

> When other kids/adults in the family speaks loudly, it does not

upset him &

> he's fine.

>

> I think the rivalry in the younger days (fighting for toys,

biting each

> other) is deeply

> ingrained in him that he made the negative assumption when his

sis speaks

> loud

> (even though she's talking to the adults & not directing the

words at him),

> am I right?

>

> In the younger days, whenever his sis mentions his name (even to

adults)

> softly,

> he would get mad so we've taught the sister to refer to him

as " brother " &

> not

> to use his name. He seemed to be aware his name is being

mentioned but he

> doesn't know what the sis is 'talking' about.

>

> He responds to adults when his name is being called.

>

> Thanks for any ideas/inputs

> G

>

>

[Guest guest]

We experienced this with my son. ANd like you it was only when my

daughter would speak. She does have a high pitched voice, like Jen

said, so I assumed it was more painful for him to listen to her.

(At times, it's painful for me. ....) Magnesium helped

tremendously. Also we used the silicone ear plugs (used for

swimming) in his ears before we figured out he needed extra mag. So

if the magnesium doesn't work, maybe the ear plugs would help.

My best,

Tami

Gavin's mom

>

> Hi,

>

> My 6yo Asd son can't process auditory inputs well - only a few

simple

> instructions

> like " go shower " , " eat " , " sit down " . There's quite a degree of

rivalry

> between him

> & his normal(non-ASD) sister (a lot more in their younger days).

>

> When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he would

burst,

> crying &

> going over to hit his sister. I suspect he 'assumes' his sister

is hurling

> 'verbal abuse'

> at (or reprimanding) him as he can't understand what his sister is

talking

> about.

>

> We would stop him from hitting his sister & tried to calm him

down. No

> matter how

> we try to explain to him, he would not understand.

>

> When other kids/adults in the family speaks loudly, it does not

upset him &

> he's fine.

>

> I think the rivalry in the younger days (fighting for toys, biting

each

> other) is deeply

> ingrained in him that he made the negative assumption when his sis

speaks

> loud

> (even though she's talking to the adults & not directing the words

at him),

> am I right?

>

> In the younger days, whenever his sis mentions his name (even to

adults)

> softly,

> he would get mad so we've taught the sister to refer to him

as " brother " &

> not

> to use his name. He seemed to be aware his name is being

mentioned but he

> doesn't know what the sis is 'talking' about.

>

> He responds to adults when his name is being called.

>

>

> Thanks for any ideas/inputs

> G

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/24/2006 1:27:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dannenedrummond@... writes:

I can't figure out any solution to keep him

from hitting her and it really makes me want to hit him for hurting

her. A nasty, vicious cycle!!!

All I can say is that hitting is learned, and a child will take to that

approach if that is what somebody showed them. Check to be sure there isn't a

babysitter or any child care provider who isn't physically abusing your child

with spanking. Spanking is considered abuse and it only teaches a child to do

the same!

Sad but true! A very confusing ordeal for a child let alone a child with

other health issues and special needs! NOT FAIR!

I wish you a happy ending with this ordeal!

Jule

[Guest guest]

Gosh, I have the SAME problem! lol My son is 6, ASD. My daughter is

3, normal and speaking so fast...Anyway, when he is on a round of

chelation he can't stand anything about her. And if we allow him to,

he strikes at her. I usually make him go to his room for a couple

minutes, that works for him. But man, email me for support if ya

want! I could use some encouragement myself.

Trish

>

> Hi,

>

> My 6yo Asd son can't process auditory inputs well - only a few

simple

> instructions

> like " go shower " , " eat " , " sit down " . There's quite a degree of

rivalry

> between him

> & his normal(non-ASD) sister (a lot more in their younger days).

>

> When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he would

burst,

> crying &

> going over to hit his sister. I suspect he 'assumes' his sister

is hurling

> 'verbal abuse'

> at (or reprimanding) him as he can't understand what his sister is

talking

> about.

>

> We would stop him from hitting his sister & tried to calm him

down. No

> matter how

> we try to explain to him, he would not understand.

>

> When other kids/adults in the family speaks loudly, it does not

upset him &

> he's fine.

>

> I think the rivalry in the younger days (fighting for toys, biting

each

> other) is deeply

> ingrained in him that he made the negative assumption when his sis

speaks

> loud

> (even though she's talking to the adults & not directing the words

at him),

> am I right?

>

> In the younger days, whenever his sis mentions his name (even to

adults)

> softly,

> he would get mad so we've taught the sister to refer to him

as " brother " &

> not

> to use his name. He seemed to be aware his name is being

mentioned but he

> doesn't know what the sis is 'talking' about.

>

> He responds to adults when his name is being called.

>

>

> Thanks for any ideas/inputs

> G

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Thanks very much for the inputs.

My son has taken Calcium+Magnesium supplements for a couple

years (he started with Ca+Mg emulsion 500mg of each at age 4) &

nowadays we gave him the capsule form by Nature's Way (333 mg

Ca & 167mg Magnesium daily). It does not seem to make any

difference. Should I increase the Magnesium dosage?

As for music therapy, we have tried Samonas as well as EASE for

about 6-7 months when he was 3-4 years old but we did not notice

any obvious change in this behavior then as far as I can recall.

For sure he did not cover his ears when he's upset due to his sis

speaking but I must agree his sis do have quite a high pitched/loud

voice. I recall at one time when he's in the school bus & one kid

shouted loudly, he got upset. Other kids who talks or make noises

like " yeee " did not bother him (I once accompanied him in the school

bus full of ASD kids for a week & there's one such kid who make this

'yeee' noise frequently). But the upset in the bus occasion was not

that bad & he had no intent of going over to hit the other kid.

We have also treated him for yeast & phenol & his self-laughing is

almost gone but this irritation when his sis speaks has always been

there. So don't think it's a yeast/phenol issue.

Thanks for the suggestion about ear plug but I won't use that

On 9/25/06, Jen West <jenn97420@...> wrote:

>

> maybe he is sensitive to her voice if it is high pitched ( as most

> little girls are) it may hurt him. High pitched noises cause pain for my

> daughter like phones ringing and when other little girls laugh I know a

> little boy who was sensitive to when his mom would laugh and he would cover

> his ears and scream no laugh no laugh..........Some have had success

> with music therapy..........So MAYBE this is the reason Is he sensitive

> to other noises? Best wishes to you Jen

>

> gol sun <golsun@...>

> wrote: Hi,

>

> My 6yo Asd son can't process auditory inputs well - only a few simple

> instructions

> like " go shower " , " eat " , " sit down " . There's quite a degree of rivalry

> between him

> & his normal(non-ASD) sister (a lot more in their younger days).

>

> When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he would burst,

> crying &

> going over to hit his sister. I suspect he 'assumes' his sister is

> hurling

> 'verbal abuse'

> at (or reprimanding) him as he can't understand what his sister is talking

> about.

>

> We would stop him from hitting his sister & tried to calm him down. No

> matter how

> we try to explain to him, he would not understand.

>

> When other kids/adults in the family speaks loudly, it does not upset him

> &

> he's fine.

>

> I think the rivalry in the younger days (fighting for toys, biting each

> other) is deeply

> ingrained in him that he made the negative assumption when his sis speaks

> loud

> (even though she's talking to the adults & not directing the words at

> him),

> am I right?

>

> In the younger days, whenever his sis mentions his name (even to adults)

> softly,

> he would get mad so we've taught the sister to refer to him as " brother " &

> not

> to use his name. He seemed to be aware his name is being mentioned but he

> doesn't know what the sis is 'talking' about.

>

> He responds to adults when his name is being called.

>

> Thanks for any ideas/inputs

> G

>

>

[Guest guest]

> When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he would

burst,

> crying &

> going over to hit his sister.

If you think it is because of her high pitch voice, try increasing

your yeast protocol, see if that helps.

My kids are allowed to hit back, if they use their words first and it

doesn't work. Does his sister tell him to stop, and if he does not,

is she allowed to hit back? Once my other kids started hitting back,

my #2 stopped hitting them.

Dana

[Guest guest]

On certain weeks, his Kirkman's probiotics dosage could go up to 150 billion

CFUs per day. Sometimes we rotate to Culturelle or other brand & the daily

dosage goes down to 60 billion CFUs per day.

At the same time, we have been giving him 2 capsules twice per day (ie

4 caps per day) of NoPhenol since last year (Sep/Oct 2005), so believe he

has quite a good anti-yeast protocol in place. We stopped giving Pfizer's

Difflucan around Sep/Oct 2005 after dosing him for 2 weeks.

Nope, we forbid his sis (of same height but bigger body built than him)

from hitting back as we have seen a few cases that it aggravated his

upset when the sis hit back.

In fact when the nanny spoke in a stern voice ordering him to stop doing

something, he would on occasions got upset & go over to slap/smack

the nanny's lips

G

On 9/26/06, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

>

> > When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he would

> burst,

> > crying &

> > going over to hit his sister.

>

>

> If you think it is because of her high pitch voice, try increasing

> your yeast protocol, see if that helps.

>

> My kids are allowed to hit back, if they use their words first and it

> doesn't work. Does his sister tell him to stop, and if he does not,

> is she allowed to hit back? Once my other kids started hitting back,

> my #2 stopped hitting them.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

>

> On certain weeks, his Kirkman's probiotics dosage could go up to 150

billion

> CFUs per day. Sometimes we rotate to Culturelle or other brand &

the daily

> dosage goes down to 60 billion CFUs per day.

>

> At the same time, we have been giving him 2 capsules twice per day (ie

> 4 caps per day) of NoPhenol since last year (Sep/Oct 2005), so

believe he

> has quite a good anti-yeast protocol in place.

There were times when my son required much more than this, to keep the

yeast under control. Something for you to consider anyway.

> Nope, we forbid his sis (of same height but bigger body built than him)

> from hitting back as we have seen a few cases that it aggravated his

> upset when the sis hit back.

Well, it definitely might not work for your family. My #2 was upset

at first also, because he did not like the idea that he would be hit

back! But after 2-3 times of getting hit back, he stopped doing it.

Good luck.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My 4 year old ASD daughter screams whenever her 21 month old brother

screams. She is very hypersensative to noise and screams from pain,

but then laughs and then he screams back and forth until my daughter

cannot take it and goes in her room. But even then a few minutes

later she screams again. I have tried telling her to tell him not

to scream because it hurts her ears. She will repeat it if I say it

only. But then seems to want more. Sometimes I seperate them as a

time out for both.

Hi,

> >

> > My 6yo Asd son can't process auditory inputs well - only a

few

> simple

> > instructions

> > like " go shower " , " eat " , " sit down " . There's quite a degree

of

> rivalry

> > between him

> > & his normal(non-ASD) sister (a lot more in their younger

days).

> >

> > When his sister speaks a bit louder, it would upset him & he

> would burst,

> > crying &

> > going over to hit his sister. I suspect he 'assumes' his

sister

> is hurling

> > 'verbal abuse'

> > at (or reprimanding) him as he can't understand what his

sister

> is talking

> > about.

> >

> > We would stop him from hitting his sister & tried to calm him

> down. No

> > matter how

> > we try to explain to him, he would not understand.

> >

> > When other kids/adults in the family speaks loudly, it does

not

> upset him &

> > he's fine.

> >

> > I think the rivalry in the younger days (fighting for toys,

> biting each

> > other) is deeply

> > ingrained in him that he made the negative assumption when his

> sis speaks

> > loud

> > (even though she's talking to the adults & not directing the

> words at him),

> > am I right?

> >

> > In the younger days, whenever his sis mentions his name (even

to

> adults)

> > softly,

> > he would get mad so we've taught the sister to refer to him

> as " brother " &

> > not

> > to use his name. He seemed to be aware his name is being

> mentioned but he

> > doesn't know what the sis is 'talking' about.

> >

> > He responds to adults when his name is being called.

> >

> > Thanks for any ideas/inputs

> > G

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Many people with auditory hypersensitivity need to be taught coping skills which

appear to come naturally to others, like: covering one's ears, moving away from

the noise, etc.

S S

>

<p>My 4 year old ASD daughter screams whenever her 21 month old

brother <br>

screams. She is very hypersensative to noise and screams from pain, <br>

but then laughs and then he screams back and forth until my daughter <br>

cannot take it and goes in her room. But even then a few minutes <br>

later she screams again. I have tried telling her to tell him not <br>

to scream because it hurts her ears. She will repeat it if I say it <br>

only. But then seems to want more. Sometimes I seperate them as a <br>

time out for both.<br>

<br>

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They also learn it from TV, movies, etc. While teaching him not to hit, you

also need to teach your daughter to move quickly out of the way.

S S

dannenedrummond%40hotmail.com " >dannenedrummond@<wbr>hotmail.com</a> writes:<br>

<br>

I can't figure out any solution to keep him <br>

from hitting her and it really makes me want to hit him for hurting <br>

her. A nasty, vicious cycle!!!<br>

<br>

All I can say is that hitting is learned, and a child will take to that <br>

approach if that is what somebody showed them. Check to be sure there isn't a

<br>

babysitter or any child care provider who isn't physically abusing your child

<br>

with spanking. Spanking is considered abuse and it only teaches a child to do

<br>

the same!<br>

Sad but true! A very confusing ordeal for a child let alone a child with <br>

other health issues and special needs! NOT FAIR! <br>

I wish you a happy ending with this ordeal!<br>

Jule<br>

<br>

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