What's causing pinching/biting and what should I do?

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Within the last couple of days my boy (5.5 y.o. ASD, non-verbal) has

been somewhat violent. This is not normal for him. He is doing

lots of self biting and pinching of others. I should note that is

has recently also started understanding more of what is happening

around him and is following instructions more.

Is this a chelation reaction? -- just not sure. We are doing DMSA

via AC protocal. We are finishing up round 17.

Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Valtrex (we are on day

10 of valtrex).

Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Lupron or if he needs

more Lupron. His testosterone level has definitely gone up also --

his self play is way up again.

Not sure if pinching/biting is a result of more understanding and he

is now getting frustrated because he wants to say something but

can't. Yesterday he started pinching me when he wanted a pair of

keys. He was searching my pocket for keys. When I gave him my set

he started yelling and pinching. When I gave him another set

(apparently the one he wanted) -- he calmed down.

As of now I am just stopping him verbally and working on this like a

behaviorial issue.

Should I do something else? Is this a biological issue? What

should I do? Has anyone else dealt with this? Perhaps I am making

too much of nothing but my son's illness has mad me a nervous

person -- feel like I am walking on eggshells all the time. Any

comments are appreciated.

Thank you.

[Guest guest]

My son used to have a lot of self-biting & going onto gfcfsf (coupled

with high doses of probiotics) at that time yielded an obvious reduction

in self-biting.

He too has a tendency to pitch adults & kids but somehow this is gone

but I'm not sure what we did helped - a few interventions took place then:

high doses of probiotics with NoPhenol & minerals supplement (

Ca+Mg+Zn)

regds

Goh

On 9/25/06, A_BIT_SOLUTIONS <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

>

> Within the last couple of days my boy (5.5 y.o. ASD, non-verbal) has

> been somewhat violent. This is not normal for him. He is doing

> lots of self biting and pinching of others. I should note that is

> has recently also started understanding more of what is happening

> around him and is following instructions more.

>

> Is this a chelation reaction? -- just not sure. We are doing DMSA

> via AC protocal. We are finishing up round 17.

>

> Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Valtrex (we are on day

> 10 of valtrex).

>

> Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Lupron or if he needs

> more Lupron. His testosterone level has definitely gone up also --

> his self play is way up again.

>

> Not sure if pinching/biting is a result of more understanding and he

> is now getting frustrated because he wants to say something but

> can't. Yesterday he started pinching me when he wanted a pair of

> keys. He was searching my pocket for keys. When I gave him my set

> he started yelling and pinching. When I gave him another set

> (apparently the one he wanted) -- he calmed down.

>

> As of now I am just stopping him verbally and working on this like a

> behaviorial issue.

>

> Should I do something else? Is this a biological issue? What

> should I do? Has anyone else dealt with this? Perhaps I am making

> too much of nothing but my son's illness has mad me a nervous

> person -- feel like I am walking on eggshells all the time. Any

> comments are appreciated.

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

We had one or two rounds in the past that I almost stopped because

my son's behavior became out of control. He was hitting, pinching,

slapping, kicking, tantruming over everything. Just nuts really.

Totally not himself at all. I had to increase his yeast treatment

and probiotics. It took a week of higher GSE and probiotics to

finally get his yeast down again to where he acted normal.

It could also be communication problems, as with the keys, but the

yeast could provoke a more extreme reaction that normal. So instead

of patting you for the keys, he pinched. My son also bites his

sister when yeast is going on.

-- In , " gol sun " <golsun@...> wrote:

>

> My son used to have a lot of self-biting & going onto gfcfsf

(coupled

> with high doses of probiotics) at that time yielded an obvious

reduction

> in self-biting.

>

> He too has a tendency to pitch adults & kids but somehow this is

gone

> but I'm not sure what we did helped - a few interventions took

place then:

> high doses of probiotics with NoPhenol & minerals supplement (

> Ca+Mg+Zn)

>

>

> regds

> Goh

>

> On 9/25/06, A_BIT_SOLUTIONS <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

> >

> > Within the last couple of days my boy (5.5 y.o. ASD, non-verbal)

has

> > been somewhat violent. This is not normal for him. He is doing

> > lots of self biting and pinching of others. I should note that

is

> > has recently also started understanding more of what is happening

> > around him and is following instructions more.

> >

> > Is this a chelation reaction? -- just not sure. We are doing

DMSA

> > via AC protocal. We are finishing up round 17.

> >

> > Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Valtrex (we are on

day

> > 10 of valtrex).

> >

> > Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Lupron or if he

needs

> > more Lupron. His testosterone level has definitely gone up

also --

> > his self play is way up again.

> >

> > Not sure if pinching/biting is a result of more understanding

and he

> > is now getting frustrated because he wants to say something but

> > can't. Yesterday he started pinching me when he wanted a pair of

> > keys. He was searching my pocket for keys. When I gave him my

set

> > he started yelling and pinching. When I gave him another set

> > (apparently the one he wanted) -- he calmed down.

> >

> > As of now I am just stopping him verbally and working on this

like a

> > behaviorial issue.

> >

> > Should I do something else? Is this a biological issue? What

> > should I do? Has anyone else dealt with this? Perhaps I am

making

> > too much of nothing but my son's illness has mad me a nervous

> > person -- feel like I am walking on eggshells all the time. Any

> > comments are appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

> Is this a chelation reaction? -- just not sure. We are doing DMSA

> via AC protocal. We are finishing up round 17.

>

> Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Valtrex (we are on day

> 10 of valtrex).

Chelation and anti-virals both tend to increast yeast, and yeast

overgrowth can cause pinching and biting. Try increasing your yeast

protocol, see if that helps.

> his self play is way up again.

Do you mean he plays with his private area? That always meant yeast

overgrowth for my son.

Dana

[Guest guest]

He is doing lots of self biting and pinching of others.

>>>Its a full moon - common parasite (or bateria) behaviour in this house -

may go away as the moon wanes - keep your fingers crossed

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

Pinching and biting are often communication in the only ways nonverbal kids

know. Have you tried PECS or sign with him to give him some other more

comfortable forms of communication? What's his diet like? What supplements

have been added recently? What's your yeast protocol? Do you see these

behaviors more at particular times of day? When certain people are around? At

transition times? When it's noisy? In certain settings more than others?

S S

<p>Within the last couple of days my boy (5.5 y.o. ASD, non-verbal)

has <br>

been somewhat violent. This is not normal for him. He is doing <br>

lots of self biting and pinching of others. I should note that is <br>

has recently also started understanding more of what is happening <br>

around him and is following instructions more.<br>

<br>

Is this a chelation reaction? -- just not sure. We are doing DMSA <br>

via AC protocal. We are finishing up round 17.<br>

<br>

Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Valtrex (we are on day <br>

10 of valtrex). <br>

<br>

Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Lupron or if he needs <br>

more Lupron. His testosterone level has definitely gone up also -- <br>

his self play is way up again. <br>

<br>

Not sure if pinching/biting is a result of more understanding and he <br>

is now getting frustrated because he wants to say something but <br>

can't. Yesterday he started pinching me when he wanted a pair of <br>

keys. He was searching my pocket for keys. When I gave him my set <br>

he started yelling and pinching. When I gave him another set <br>

(apparently the one he wanted) -- he calmed down. <br>

<br>

As of now I am just stopping him verbally and working on this like a <br>

behaviorial issue.<br>

<br>

Should I do something else? Is this a biological issue? What <br>

should I do? Has anyone else dealt with this? Perhaps I am making <br>

too much of nothing but my son's illness has mad me a nervous <br>

person -- feel like I am walking on eggshells all the time. Any <br>

comments are appreciated.<br>

<br>

Thank you.<br>

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Does he bite the puffy area at the base of the thumb? That area is full of

accupressure points. Will he let someone else deeply massage that area? Will

he let someone do body brushing? Look at an accupressure/reflexology body map

and see what the area he's biting relates to...

S S

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He is doing lots of self biting and pinching of others. <br>

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[Guest guest]

We did try PECS with him and so did the school -- but that was 8 months ago. He

is functioning at a much higher level now -- he understands alot more. I think

its worth trying PECS again.

He has a rotational diet. His yeast protocal includes Nizoral. Testing and

his bowel movements indicate that his yeast issues are not too severe --

however, his testosterone levels are always the problem -- up and down. Self

biting goes up during chelation.

The posting is old. Since then, telling him to stop has helped. Self biting

has gone down but has ot been eliminated. We will certainly take a fresh look

at PECS.

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

Pinching and biting are often communication in the only ways nonverbal kids

know. Have you tried PECS or sign with him to give him some other more

comfortable forms of communication? What's his diet like? What supplements have

been added recently? What's your yeast protocol? Do you see these behaviors more

at particular times of day? When certain people are around? At transition times?

When it's noisy? In certain settings more than others?

S S

<p>Within the last couple of days my boy (5.5 y.o. ASD, non-verbal) has <br>

been somewhat violent. This is not normal for him. He is doing <br>

lots of self biting and pinching of others. I should note that is <br>

has recently also started understanding more of what is happening <br>

around him and is following instructions more.<br>

<br>

Is this a chelation reaction? -- just not sure. We are doing DMSA <br>

via AC protocal. We are finishing up round 17.<br>

<br>

Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Valtrex (we are on day <br>

10 of valtrex). <br>

<br>

Not sure if pinching/biting is a reaction to Lupron or if he needs <br>

more Lupron. His testosterone level has definitely gone up also -- <br>

his self play is way up again. <br>

<br>

Not sure if pinching/biting is a result of more understanding and he <br>

is now getting frustrated because he wants to say something but <br>

can't. Yesterday he started pinching me when he wanted a pair of <br>

keys. He was searching my pocket for keys. When I gave him my set <br>

he started yelling and pinching. When I gave him another set <br>

(apparently the one he wanted) -- he calmed down. <br>

<br>

As of now I am just stopping him verbally and working on this like a <br>

behaviorial issue.<br>

<br>

Should I do something else? Is this a biological issue? What <br>

should I do? Has anyone else dealt with this? Perhaps I am making <br>

too much of nothing but my son's illness has mad me a nervous <br>

person -- feel like I am walking on eggshells all the time. Any <br>

comments are appreciated.<br>

<br>

Thank you.<br>

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Yes, he does bite the puffy area at the base of the thumb as well as his pointer

finger. Yes, he will let my wife massage that area. What does that mean?

Thank you.

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

Does he bite the puffy area at the base of the thumb? That area is full of

accupressure points. Will he let someone else deeply massage that area? Will he

let someone do body brushing? Look at an accupressure/reflexology body map and

see what the area he's biting relates to...

S S

<br>

He is doing lots of self biting and pinching of others. <br>

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What chelator, dose, and dosing schedule are you using? How much does he weigh?

What supplements is he on? Do you do them on " on " and " off " days?

S S

Self biting goes up during chelation.<br>

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http://www.healthgoods.com/images/Medirub_Hand_Reflexlology.gif

Look at the areas of this that correspond to the areas he bites and consider

supporting those systems. The fact that he's biting his hands in that area

suggest that the corresponding areas are bothering him. Does he bite both hands

or just one?

S S

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This is facinating! According to the chart and what you are saying, then his

issues are with his " brain/hair/eyes " and " Pineal + Pituitary " -- all points to

brain.

OK, how do I support? Sounds like chelate, chelate, chelate -- but I will use

minerals during OFF days.

What do you think and why do you believe this in this? Have you used

accupuncture or know someone?

Thank you.

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

http://www.healthgoods.com/images/Medirub_Hand_Reflexlology.gif

Look at the areas of this that correspond to the areas he bites and consider

supporting those systems. The fact that he's biting his hands in that area

suggest that the corresponding areas are bothering him. Does he bite both hands

or just one?

S S

He is doing lots of self biting and pinching of others.

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I have had acupunture done on myself, mainly for NAET, and sometimes use

acupressure. I took 130 hours of massage therapy training but have not worked

in the field. When I had my amalgams removed I had very specific sensations.

I later looked up the locations on the reflexology charts and they all made

sense. Interestingly, most of the self-biters I've worked with in over 20 years

in social services bite either the padding at the base of the thumb (most common

in my observations) or the padding at the base of the pinky (less common).

Consider giving the minerals on both ON and OFF days. Also consider lowering

your doses of chelators to see if that helps some.

Consider regularly massaging the areas your son bites to see if that helps. If

he won't let you massage his hands, look for the corresponding locations on the

feet.

S S

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I will take your advice. He already lets us massage his fingers and it

obviously soothes him.

Thanks !

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

I have had acupunture done on myself, mainly for NAET, and sometimes use

acupressure. I took 130 hours of massage therapy training but have not worked in

the field. When I had my amalgams removed I had very specific sensations. I

later looked up the locations on the reflexology charts and they all made sense.

Interestingly, most of the self-biters I've worked with in over 20 years in

social services bite either the padding at the base of the thumb (most common in

my observations) or the padding at the base of the pinky (less common).

Consider giving the minerals on both ON and OFF days. Also consider lowering

your doses of chelators to see if that helps some.

Consider regularly massaging the areas your son bites to see if that helps. If

he won't let you massage his hands, look for the corresponding locations on the

feet.

S S

He is doing lots of self biting and pinching of others.

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