Re: Dr Goldberg's article - autism is an auto-immune issue

[Guest guest]

Hi

The website given previously can now only show the first page. I

was able to access the entire presentation (of more than 10 pages)

just 3 weeks ago.

G

On 7/23/06, gol sun <golsun@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

>

> Any views/opinions of Dr Goldberg's article below :

>

>

http://www.neuroimmunedr.com/present4/Sept10_Mississippi_Final_email_files/frame\

..htm

>

> He seems to say that attributing autism to " Phenol issue " & " mercury

> poisoning "

>

is outdated. Rather autism is an auto-immune thing (viruses, ...)?

>

> If what he says is true, then tackling autism with anti-virals (Valtrex,

> Virastop,

> OLE) should be direction to go??

>

>

> Thanks

> G

>

[Guest guest]

I would take his " views " with a grain of salt - he treated our daughter for

almost 2 years - lots of $$$ down the drain, no results, a very negative

experience. He strung us along " promising our daughter would be cured " . Very

opinionated and narrow-minded - he would drop any patient who did chelation - a

" my way or the highway " kind of guy, never researched anyone else's work...

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " gol sun " <golsun@...>

> Hi,

>

>

> Any views/opinions of Dr Goldberg's article below :

>

http://www.neuroimmunedr.com/present4/Sept10_Mississippi_Final_email_files/frame

> .htm

>

> He seems to that attributing autism to " Phenol issue " & " mercury poisoning "

> is

> outdated. Rather autism is an auto-immune thing (viruses, ...)?

>

> If what he says is true, then tackling autism with anti-virals (Valtrex,

> Virastop,

> OLE) should be direction to go??

>

>

> Thanks

> G

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can click on all the pages to see them

M

[ ] Re: Dr Goldberg's article - autism is

an auto-immune issue

Hi

The website given previously can now only show the first page. I

was able to access the entire presentation (of more than 10 pages)

just 3 weeks ago.

G

On 7/23/06, gol sun <golsungmail (DOT) <mailto:golsun%40gmail.com> com>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

>

> Any views/opinions of Dr Goldberg's article below :

>

> http://www.neuroimm

<http://www.neuroimmunedr.com/present4/Sept10_Mississippi_Final_email_fi

les/frame.htm>

unedr.com/present4/Sept10_Mississippi_Final_email_files/frame.htm

>

> He seems to say that attributing autism to " Phenol issue " & " mercury

> poisoning "

>

is outdated. Rather autism is an auto-immune thing (viruses, ...)?

>

> If what he says is true, then tackling autism with anti-virals

(Valtrex,

> Virastop,

> OLE) should be direction to go??

>

>

> Thanks

> G

>

[Guest guest]

Valtrex appears to help about 30% of kids who take it, not all of them. That is

the percentage give, but IMO, I think that it is a little high. ASD can be due

to a lot of things, metal poisoning and viral/immune issues as well as other

things.

Noone has all the answers, no matter how they act like or tell you they do. I

have been on the board which is Dr. Goldberg's board, about 10 people there

who swear by the antivirals and SSRI treatment, but lots more who weren't helped

by it.

[ ] Dr Goldberg's article - autism is an

auto-immune issue

Hi,

Any views/opinions of Dr Goldberg's article below :

http://www.neuroimmunedr.com/present4/Sept10_Mississippi_Final_email_files/frame\

..htm

He seems to that attributing autism to " Phenol issue " & " mercury poisoning "

is

outdated. Rather autism is an auto-immune thing (viruses, ...)?

If what he says is true, then tackling autism with anti-virals (Valtrex,

Virastop,

OLE) should be direction to go??

Thanks

G

[Guest guest]

> He seems to that attributing autism to " Phenol issue " & " mercury

poisoning "

> is

> outdated. Rather autism is an auto-immune thing (viruses, ...)?

It's usually both. And wouldn't it be great if mercury poisoning were

outdated and not happening anymore? Not with the flu vax being shoved

down people's throats, for starters.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Funny this should be posted now. I was the one who just posted about being

frustrated with our HHV6 levels that stay up after 4 yrs on Valtrex/Famvir, that

we started with Dr. Goldberg. The antivirals suppress the levels temporarily

but do not address the root of the problem.

We were with Dr. Goldberg for 3.5 loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong years.

(yes, I'm being dramatic, LOL). The only part of his protocol that helped was

the antivirals and IMMG to address HHV6. He does antivirals, non-stop systemic

antifungals, SSRIs, and other psychotropic drugs. He used a drug called

Kutapressin for a while (now called Nexavir).

We also did IMGG injections which are the only thing that keeps our titers down.

He openly admits that he is only supressing the symptoms of immune dysfunction,

not curing it. He has been promising new " immune modulators " for our kids since

I can remember. He has monetary stakes in this new prospect and the whole thing

is very political, from what I've heard over the years.....

Anyway---- yes, my son's immune system is messed up. But WHY???? Along

with his endocrine, nervous and GI systems. WHY??? Dr. G does not address

this head-on. Says it's a genetic predisposition to a weakened immune system

that cannot handle today's toxin levels.....yes......and which toxins??? Maybe

the metals my son is loaded with??? But according to Dr. G, removing any metals

is more dangerous than leaving them there, and the body, when healthy, will take

care of it on it's own.

Well, I waited (or wasted?) 3 years waiting for that to happen, it didn't.

We are now chelating Andy's way, doing the Geier's Lupron protocol (yes, my son

has pubic hair at 5 yo) and doing a good portion of Amy Yasko's program, based

on genetic results. I no longer subscribe to any one person having The Answer.

My son is doing MUCH better, SO much better than when we were with Dr. G....

and I don't have to listen to him rant and rave every 6 weeks while $$$$ flows

out of my account..... He is very closed-minded and, dare I say,

hostile towards any ideas which are not his. I wanted so much for him to cure

my son that I believed him, and held onto that hope for too long. I think I was

kind of brain-washed for a while

I still don't have all the answers, but I feel so much closer now. I wish I

would've started chelation 3 yrs. sooner, but live and learn.

PS.. Goldberg is also very pro-vaccine and pushed the flu vaccine on us every

year (we refused)

Becky

[Guest guest]

, thanks for sharing your story and YIKES to the Goldberg pushing the flu

vaccine.

[ ] Re: Dr Goldberg's article - autism is an

auto-immune issue

Funny this should be posted now. I was the one who just posted about being

frustrated with our HHV6 levels that stay up after 4 yrs on Valtrex/Famvir, that

we started with Dr. Goldberg. The antivirals suppress the levels temporarily but

do not address the root of the problem.

We were with Dr. Goldberg for 3.5 loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong years. (yes,

I'm being dramatic, LOL). The only part of his protocol that helped was the

antivirals and IMMG to address HHV6. He does antivirals, non-stop systemic

antifungals, SSRIs, and other psychotropic drugs. He used a drug called

Kutapressin for a while (now called Nexavir).

We also did IMGG injections which are the only thing that keeps our titers

down. He openly admits that he is only supressing the symptoms of immune

dysfunction, not curing it. He has been promising new " immune modulators " for

our kids since I can remember. He has monetary stakes in this new prospect and

the whole thing is very political, from what I've heard over the years.....

Anyway---- yes, my son's immune system is messed up. But WHY???? Along with

his endocrine, nervous and GI systems. WHY??? Dr. G does not address this

head-on. Says it's a genetic predisposition to a weakened immune system that

cannot handle today's toxin levels.....yes......and which toxins??? Maybe the

metals my son is loaded with??? But according to Dr. G, removing any metals is

more dangerous than leaving them there, and the body, when healthy, will take

care of it on it's own.

Well, I waited (or wasted?) 3 years waiting for that to happen, it didn't. We

are now chelating Andy's way, doing the Geier's Lupron protocol (yes, my son has

pubic hair at 5 yo) and doing a good portion of Amy Yasko's program, based on

genetic results. I no longer subscribe to any one person having The Answer.

My son is doing MUCH better, SO much better than when we were with Dr. G....

and I don't have to listen to him rant and rave every 6 weeks while $$$$ flows

out of my account..... He is very closed-minded and, dare I say,

hostile towards any ideas which are not his. I wanted so much for him to cure

my son that I believed him, and held onto that hope for too long. I think I was

kind of brain-washed for a while

I still don't have all the answers, but I feel so much closer now. I wish I

would've started chelation 3 yrs. sooner, but live and learn.

PS.. Goldberg is also very pro-vaccine and pushed the flu vaccine on us every

year (we refused)

Becky

[Guest guest]

I would FEAR anyone (especially a DOCTOR) who pushes the flu

vaccine!!! See what is IN flu vaccines...

http://www.cbc.ca/airfarce/vidplayer/AF_single_player.html?/season13/

051202m & playerType=wmp

The Canadians use humor here to show the real ingredients (not

published) inside flu vaccines.

To understand how our body's immune system works, see the link below

for a fun and informative lesson in human biology. One can see how

important it is to improve our immune systems through healthy diet,

supplements and glyconutrients. Without all these pieces, our cells

are not communicating properly and that is crutical to fight

diseases/viruses/bateria/abnormalities! With all three of these

pieces we are seeing spectaular results!

http://www.glycoschool.com/

Click on " The Immune System " Icon (2nd from top)

Roe

>

> Funny this should be posted now. I was the one who just posted

about being frustrated with our HHV6 levels that stay up after 4 yrs

on Valtrex/Famvir, that we started with Dr. Goldberg. The

antivirals suppress the levels temporarily but do not address the

root of the problem.

>

> We were with Dr. Goldberg for 3.5

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong years. (yes, I'm being dramatic,

LOL). The only part of his protocol that helped was the antivirals

and IMMG to address HHV6. He does antivirals, non-stop systemic

antifungals, SSRIs, and other psychotropic drugs. He used a drug

called Kutapressin for a while (now called Nexavir).

> We also did IMGG injections which are the only thing that keeps

our titers down. He openly admits that he is only supressing the

symptoms of immune dysfunction, not curing it. He has been

promising new " immune modulators " for our kids since I can

remember. He has monetary stakes in this new prospect and the whole

thing is very political, from what I've heard over the years.....

>

> Anyway---- yes, my son's immune system is messed up. But

WHY???? Along with his endocrine, nervous and GI systems. WHY???

Dr. G does not address this head-on. Says it's a genetic

predisposition to a weakened immune system that cannot handle

today's toxin levels.....yes......and which toxins??? Maybe the

metals my son is loaded with??? But according to Dr. G, removing

any metals is more dangerous than leaving them there, and the body,

when healthy, will take care of it on it's own.

>

> Well, I waited (or wasted?) 3 years waiting for that to

happen, it didn't. We are now chelating Andy's way, doing the

Geier's Lupron protocol (yes, my son has pubic hair at 5 yo) and

doing a good portion of Amy Yasko's program, based on genetic

results. I no longer subscribe to any one person having The Answer.

>

> My son is doing MUCH better, SO much better than when we were

with Dr. G.... and I don't have to listen to him rant and rave every

6 weeks while $$$$ flows out of my account..... He is very closed-

minded and, dare I say,

> hostile towards any ideas which are not his. I wanted so much for

him to cure my son that I believed him, and held onto that hope for

too long. I think I was kind of brain-washed for a while

>

> I still don't have all the answers, but I feel so much closer

now. I wish I would've started chelation 3 yrs. sooner, but live

and learn.

>

> PS.. Goldberg is also very pro-vaccine and pushed the flu

vaccine on us every year (we refused)

>

> Becky

>

>

[Guest guest]

is 100% right and then some; the guy was a nightmare. He told one of the

other moms that she should spank her autistic son for his " bad behavior " . Yep, a

real expert this guy is.

--------- [ ] Re: Dr Goldberg's article - autism is an

auto-immune issue

Funny this should be posted now. I was the one who just posted about being

frustrated with our HHV6 levels that stay up after 4 yrs on Valtrex/Famvir, that

we started with Dr. Goldberg. The antivirals suppress the levels temporarily but

do not address the root of the problem.

We were with Dr. Goldberg for 3.5 loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong years. (yes,

I'm being dramatic, LOL). The only part of his protocol that helped was the

antivirals and IMMG to address HHV6. He does antivirals, non-stop systemic

antifungals, SSRIs, and other psychotropic drugs. He used a drug called

Kutapressin for a while (now called Nexavir).

We also did IMGG injections which are the only thing that keeps our titers down.

He openly admits that he is only supressing the symptoms of immune dysfunction,

not curing it. He has been promising new " immune modulators " for our kids since

I can remember. He has monetary stakes in this new prospect and the whole thing

is very political, from what I've heard over the years.....

Anyway---- yes, my son's immune system is messed up. But WHY???? Along with his

endocrine, nervous and GI systems. WHY??? Dr. G does not address this head-on.

Says it's a genetic predisposition to a weakened immune system that cannot

handle today's toxin levels.....yes......and which toxins??? Maybe the metals my

son is loaded with??? But according to Dr. G, removing any metals is more

dangerous than leaving them there, and the body, when healthy, will take care of

it on it's own.

Well, I waited (or wasted?) 3 years waiting for that to happen, it didn't. We

are now chelating Andy's way, doing the Geier's Lupron protocol (yes, my son has

pubic hair at 5 yo) and doing a good portion of Amy Yasko's program, based on

genetic results. I no longer subscribe to any one person having The Answer.

My son is doing MUCH better, SO much better than when we were with Dr. G.... and

I don't have to listen to him rant and rave every 6 weeks while $$$$ flows out

of my account..... He is very closed-minded and, dare I say,

hostile towards any ideas which are not his. I wanted so much for him to cure my

son that I believed him, and held onto that hope for too long. I think I was

kind of brain-washed for a while

I still don't have all the answers, but I feel so much closer now. I wish I

would've started chelation 3 yrs. sooner, but live and learn.

PS.. Goldberg is also very pro-vaccine and pushed the flu vaccine on us every

year (we refused)

Becky

[Guest guest]

I personally think that the flu shots (they have to give two the

first time you have it) given to my son while chronically sick with

ear infections at 18 months was what pushed his immune system over

the edge and his demise into ASD. I would never recommend one

regardless of mercury being in them (alhtough that makes it much

worse, but not the only reason its harmful), especially to an

infant....I can't believe that I listened to my son's pediatritian

back then.

> >

> > Funny this should be posted now. I was the one who just posted

> about being frustrated with our HHV6 levels that stay up after 4

yrs

> on Valtrex/Famvir, that we started with Dr. Goldberg. The

> antivirals suppress the levels temporarily but do not address the

> root of the problem.

> >

> > We were with Dr. Goldberg for 3.5

> loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong years. (yes, I'm being dramatic,

> LOL). The only part of his protocol that helped was the

antivirals

> and IMMG to address HHV6. He does antivirals, non-stop systemic

> antifungals, SSRIs, and other psychotropic drugs. He used a drug

> called Kutapressin for a while (now called Nexavir).

> > We also did IMGG injections which are the only thing that keeps

> our titers down. He openly admits that he is only supressing

the

> symptoms of immune dysfunction, not curing it. He has been

> promising new " immune modulators " for our kids since I can

> remember. He has monetary stakes in this new prospect and the

whole

> thing is very political, from what I've heard over the years.....

> >

> > Anyway---- yes, my son's immune system is messed up. But

> WHY???? Along with his endocrine, nervous and GI systems.

WHY???

> Dr. G does not address this head-on. Says it's a genetic

> predisposition to a weakened immune system that cannot handle

> today's toxin levels.....yes......and which toxins??? Maybe the

> metals my son is loaded with??? But according to Dr. G, removing

> any metals is more dangerous than leaving them there, and the

body,

> when healthy, will take care of it on it's own.

> >

> > Well, I waited (or wasted?) 3 years waiting for that to

> happen, it didn't. We are now chelating Andy's way, doing the

> Geier's Lupron protocol (yes, my son has pubic hair at 5 yo) and

> doing a good portion of Amy Yasko's program, based on genetic

> results. I no longer subscribe to any one person having The

Answer.

> >

> > My son is doing MUCH better, SO much better than when we were

> with Dr. G.... and I don't have to listen to him rant and rave

every

> 6 weeks while $$$$ flows out of my account..... He is very closed-

> minded and, dare I say,

> > hostile towards any ideas which are not his. I wanted so much

for

> him to cure my son that I believed him, and held onto that hope

for

> too long. I think I was kind of brain-washed for a while

> >

> > I still don't have all the answers, but I feel so much

closer

> now. I wish I would've started chelation 3 yrs. sooner, but live

> and learn.

> >

> > PS.. Goldberg is also very pro-vaccine and pushed the flu

> vaccine on us every year (we refused)

> >

> > Becky

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

if i might add cookie-cutter approach...

vicki

eyesnelson@... wrote:

I would take his " views " with a grain of salt - he treated our

daughter for almost 2 years - lots of $$$ down the drain, no results, a very

negative experience. He strung us along " promising our daughter would be cured " .

Very opinionated and narrow-minded - he would drop any patient who did chelation

- a " my way or the highway " kind of guy, never researched anyone else's work...

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " gol sun " <golsun@...>

> Hi,

>

>

> Any views/opinions of Dr Goldberg's article below :

>

http://www.neuroimmunedr.com/present4/Sept10_Mississippi_Final_email_files/frame

> .htm

>

> He seems to that attributing autism to " Phenol issue " & " mercury poisoning "

> is

> outdated. Rather autism is an auto-immune thing (viruses, ...)?

>

> If what he says is true, then tackling autism with anti-virals (Valtrex,

> Virastop,

> OLE) should be direction to go??

>

>

> Thanks

> G

>

>

>