Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 > > Hi does anyone use what may be considered high dosage of ALA or have > any information regarding what may be a safe max dosage, would 1mg per > lb be about right. Andy's recommendation is 1/8 to 1/2 mg per lb. You might go past that after many many rounds of chelation. > I am now up to using 100mg every 3 hrs with no > issues. But I am also a little concerned that it may be too high, could > it be better to go slower with a smaller dosage like 50mg. Are you talking about yourself? If so, you can judge whether your side effects are tolerable or not. One thing to watch out for with high doses of ALA is anxiety, which may not show up during the round but later. If you're not talking about yourself, sticking to Andy's guidelines makes sense especially if you're chelating a kid who may not be able to describe side effects well, even if he's verbal. i.e. Do you > really get a benefit of quicker chelation with higher dosages of ALA ? Not so much. IOW, if you double the dose you won;t be done twice as fast. " Amalgam Illness " has more on this subject. Nell > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 > > Hi does anyone use what may be considered high dosage of ALA or have > any information regarding what may be a safe max dosage, would 1mg per > lb be about right. I am now up to using 100mg every 3 hrs with no > issues. But I am also a little concerned that it may be too high, could > it be better to go slower with a smaller dosage like 50mg. i.e. Do you > really get a benefit of quicker chelation with higher dosages of ALA ? > > Thanks > Phil > I think you can go as high as 1 mg per pound as long as you are really doing fine on the dose. I think Andy has said removal increases as the square root of the chelator. So you don't get it done all that much quicker by increasing dose. Side effects increase linearly, although if you are having none, this may not be a big problem. --stephanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 That 1/8-1/2 mg/lb is per dosage, right? So if a child weighs 100lbs, he should be getting approx 400 mg/day total x 3 days (assuming he can tolerate the 1/2 mg/lb?) Thanks! lanellici <lanellici@...> wrote: > > Hi does anyone use what may be considered high dosage of ALA or have > any information regarding what may be a safe max dosage, would 1mg per > lb be about right. Andy's recommendation is 1/8 to 1/2 mg per lb. You might go past that after many many rounds of chelation. > I am now up to using 100mg every 3 hrs with no > issues. But I am also a little concerned that it may be too high, could > it be better to go slower with a smaller dosage like 50mg. Are you talking about yourself? If so, you can judge whether your side effects are tolerable or not. One thing to watch out for with high doses of ALA is anxiety, which may not show up during the round but later. If you're not talking about yourself, sticking to Andy's guidelines makes sense especially if you're chelating a kid who may not be able to describe side effects well, even if he's verbal. i.e. Do you > really get a benefit of quicker chelation with higher dosages of ALA ? Not so much. IOW, if you double the dose you won;t be done twice as fast. " Amalgam Illness " has more on this subject. Nell > --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 > > That 1/8-1/2 mg/lb is per dosage, right? So if a child weighs 100lbs, he should be getting approx 400 mg/day total x 3 days (assuming he can tolerate the 1/2 mg/lb?) OK, you're straining my math muscle here, but...yes, if you give the max dose of 50 mgs 8 times in 24 hours, you'd get 400 mg total for the day, and 1200 mgs total for a three-day round. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 > > > > Hi does anyone use what may be considered high dosage of ALA or have > > any information regarding what may be a safe max dosage, would 1mg per > > lb be about right. I am now up to using 100mg every 3 hrs with no > > issues. But I am also a little concerned that it may be too high, could > > it be better to go slower with a smaller dosage like 50mg. i.e. Do you > > really get a benefit of quicker chelation with higher dosages of ALA ? > > > > Thanks > > Phil > > > > I think you can go as high as 1 mg per pound as long as you are > really doing fine on the dose. I think Andy has said removal > increases as the square root of the chelator. So you don't get > it done all that much quicker by increasing dose. Side effects > increase linearly, although if you are having none, this may not > be a big problem. > > --stephanie I just want to clarify my comment above - the max dose for kids is 1/2 mg per pound of body weight. Phil can consider going higher because he is an adult. I have read Andy's opinion on this is that adults (and older children) can go higher because they can verbalize their symptoms and feelings and they will know and express that they can handle more. Younger kids, and those who are less verbal or have more trouble being clear about their feelings should stay at or below the 1/2 mg per pound level. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Going above about 1/2 mg/lb increases the risk for side effects exponentially while increasing the chelation only minisculy (is that a word?!) What toxic metals are you trying to chelate? S S <p>Hi does anyone use what may be considered high dosage of ALA or have <br> any information regarding what may be a safe max dosage, would 1mg per <br> lb be about right. I am now up to using 100mg every 3 hrs with no <br> issues. But I am also a little concerned that it may be too high, could <br> it be better to go slower with a smaller dosage like 50mg. i.e. Do you <br> really get a benefit of quicker chelation with higher dosages of ALA ?<br> <br> Thanks<br> Phil<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 I think if you search the archives with www.onibasu.com you will see that Moria mentions using 200 mg doses. I'm not sure how much she weighed, but I think this was over 1mg / lb. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hi thanks, I am am chelating mercury mainly and occasionally my other metals rise, like uranium, aluminium, arsenic, lead. Not really sure why they stay in the green but have risen slightly since I started chelation. I wonder if this is due to the chelator pulling these out of tissues also?? It sounds like to be safe because of unknowns regarding testing of maximum dosages and not really gaining any benefit of quicker chelation I should stay at 50mg per dose of ALA? Would you tend to agree? Appreciate your comments Phil > > <p>Hi does anyone use what may be considered high dosage of ALA or have <br> > any information regarding what may be a safe max dosage, would 1mg per <br> > lb be about right. I am now up to using 100mg every 3 hrs with no <br> > issues. But I am also a little concerned that it may be too high, could <br> > it be better to go slower with a smaller dosage like 50mg. i.e. Do you <br> > really get a benefit of quicker chelation with higher dosages of ALA ?<br> > <br> > Thanks<br> > Phil<br> > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 , that is not correct. If you take your son's 100 lbs, that would mean you should give him between 12.5 and 50 mg per dosage (1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound). I would start at the very lowest and work your way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 > > > > <p>Hi does anyone use what may be considered high > dosage of ALA or have <br> > > any information regarding what may be a safe max dosage, would 1mg > per <br> > > lb be about right. I am now up to using 100mg every 3 hrs with no > <br> > > issues. But I am also a little concerned that it may be too high, > could <br> > > it be better to go slower with a smaller dosage like 50mg. i.e. Do > you <br> > > really get a benefit of quicker chelation with higher dosages of > ALA ?<br> > > <br> > > Thanks<br> > > Phil<br> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 She woirked up to her max dose over several years. S S <p>I think if you search the archives with www.onibasu.<wbr>com you will see<br> that Moria mentions using 200 mg doses. I'm not sure how much she<br> weighed, but I think this was over 1mg / lb.<br> <br> W.<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Depends on how much the " chelatee " weighs. If about 100#, yes. S S <p>Hi thanks, I am am chelating mercury mainly and occasionally my other <br> metals rise, like uranium, aluminium, arsenic, lead. Not really sure <br> why they stay in the green but have risen slightly since I started <br> chelation. I wonder if this is due to the chelator pulling these out <br> of tissues also??<br> <br> It sounds like to be safe because of unknowns regarding testing of <br> maximum dosages and not really gaining any benefit of quicker <br> chelation I should stay at 50mg per dose of ALA? Would you tend to <br> agree? Appreciate your comments<br> <br> Phil<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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