Re: Advaclear? NELL

July 22, 2006

In a message dated 7/22/2006 2:02:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Ladyshrink111@... writes:

The only problem I see is that the Vit A is palmitate, which you

really want to avoid. I've never found a multi that works...

Why do you want to avoid palmitate?? My son is taking 's which is 5000

IU from palmitate. I never heard this before

Kerrie

July 22, 2006

Thanks for the link Nell. I'll read that and look into my son's CLO dosage.

Kerrie

In a message dated 7/22/2006 7:34:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lanellici@... writes:

Megson (not Andy) says that if you have a damaged gut palmitate is not

used. She highly recommends the " cis " or natural form that's in CLO

(and for moms too, especially if you have nightblindness).

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/treatment/megson.htm

July 22, 2006

> Why do you want to avoid palmitate?? My son is taking 's which

is 5000

> IU from palmitate. I never heard this before

Megson (not Andy) says that if you have a damaged gut palmitate is not

used. She highly recommends the " cis " or natural form that's in CLO

(and for moms too, especially if you have nightblindness).

http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/treatment/megson.htm

Nell

July 23, 2006

> I have heard that the beta carotine version is safer because you

> can't take too much (unlike the palmitate) - is there another reason

as well?

Beta carotene is not vitamin A, it must be converted into vitamin A by

the body. My son's body did not convert it until the end of ALA

chelation plus the addition of several supplements, especially

selenium. Does your child convert it?

Dana

July 23, 2006

>

> I do remember reading that from Megson. Andy said it doesn't matter. After our

original

improvement from the cod liver oil, our girl does as well, or better on

palmitate. So kid

specific.

>

If someone does the high dose Vit. A protocol for measles, wouldn't they be

using

palmitate, and wouldn't their guts be considered damaged?

So much I don't understand....

in Illinois

July 23, 2006

Yes, they would be using palmitate, hard to glean that much A out of clo without

drinking the whole bottle. IMO, it's kid specific, some kids can't take

palmitate, some can't take betacarotene, and some like ours can take it all.

[ ] Re: Advaclear? NELL

>

> I do remember reading that from Megson. Andy said it doesn't matter. After

our original

improvement from the cod liver oil, our girl does as well, or better on

palmitate. So kid

specific.

>

If someone does the high dose Vit. A protocol for measles, wouldn't they be

using

palmitate, and wouldn't their guts be considered damaged?

So much I don't understand....

in Illinois

July 23, 2006

>

> If someone does the high dose Vit. A protocol for measles, wouldn't

they be using

> palmitate, and wouldn't their guts be considered damaged?

I think the recommended kind of A was retinyl acetate. Or am I making

that up?

Nell

July 23, 2006

>

IMO, it's kid specific, some kids can't take palmitate, some can't

take betacarotene, and some like ours can take it all.

I'm going to have to admit it -- I took n to see Megson last week

which is why I have palmitate on the brain. We talked about my

daughter, who in retrospect I think was autistic her first year

(head-banging, not very responsive or smiley, chronic vomiting,

diarrhea, and yeast) but who snapped awake, very suddenly, when she

turned one and I took her off formula. (She had nursing problems I

couldn't overcome no matter what, I think thanks to the $#@%! hep B.)

So Megson wondered whether in her case it was getting rid of the

palmitate in the formula that helped her so much. If I had been

thinking more clearly I'd have wondered about the corn syrup as well.

On a different topic, she prescribed Valtrex, LDN, and lithium cream

for n. Not sure yet which of those I'll actually do. Definitely

the lithium, probably the LDN, very on the fence about the Valtrex.

Isn't the troublesome bit, besides response rates, that once the kid

comes off the Valtrex, the viruses/problems come right back? I may do

it anyway. But wondering if anyone has heard of the improvements

sticking withut continued usage.

Nell

July 23, 2006

I think it does stick....for some kids, Nell. There have been kids who have

been on Valtrex for 9-12 months and then have had it withdrawn and done fine. It

may also make much more difference with n since he has been chelated for so

long, at least that is what I have been telling myself.

But....if I may say, thinking Vitamin A is Megson's thing, the palmitate, that

is. Like when Neubrander looks at a kid all he sees is that the kid needs

methyl B12, in shots, no doubt. And Goldberg sees only Valtrex and SSRI's,

because the majority of them are looking at one piece of the puzzle.

With your daughter there could be a million reasons why she snapped out of it.

As kids age, if the damage is not too bad, their need for nutrients decline, so

some luck out. Also, I read in Baker's new book that since girls have a larger,

more efficient corpus collosom it allows for increased thinking and neural

connections across both sides of the brain, compared to boys who are mostly

stuck on one side of their brain, no disrepect intended, but I am laughing :-)

I think the Valtrex is worth a shot, we're going to do it here. I keep saying

that, but just can't make myself give it to her, so I know where you are coming

from. I wish you lots of luck. Keep us posted.