Canola oil

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Hi Ira

I wasn't able to get the attachments you sent regarding Canola Oil....is

there any way you would be able to send them to me at

kristilee1@...?

I'd really appreciate it! Hope you're feeling well...

Kristilee

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Hi Raven,

Thanks for the great info about canola oil. I will put it on the iThyroid

site. In the past I researched canola oil and found that it disturbs thyroid

function and is a goitrogen. It is in the Brassica family of plants

(mustards, etc.) and all of these contain goitrogens. Canola oil is

definitely an oil not to use, especially if you have thyroid disease.

[Guest guest]

OK, you convinced me. I bought Canola Oil for the first time and used it

last night. Guess I'll throw it out and buy veggie oil instead to bake. I

always have olive oil on hand. I'm sure many health problems stem from

processed foods, etc. Even consumption of fresh veggies and fruit have been

grown in soil treated with chemical! Thanks for the info!

Canola Oil

RAPE IN A DIFFERENT GUISE

http://www.living-foods.com/board/read.php?f=1 & i=21641 & t=21641

Dear Editors

Recently I bought a cooking oil that's new to our supermarkets, Canola Oil.

I

tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in " bad " fats. However,

when

I had used half the bottle, I concluded that the label told me surprisingly

little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil come from?

Olive oil comes from olives, peanut oil from peanuts, sunflower oil from

sunflowers; but what is a canola? There was nothing on the label to

enlighten

me, which I thought odd. So, I did some investigating on the Internet. There

are

plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new " wonder " oil with all its

low-fat health benefits. It takes a little longer to find sites that tell

the

less palatable details.

Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything

containing

canola. Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word, from

the

words " Canada " and " oil " . Canola is a genetically engineered plant

developed in

Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of

plants.

According to AgriAlternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology

Magazine

for Farmers, " By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to

produce oils for industrial purposes, are... toxic to humans and other

animals " .

(This, by the way, is one of the websites singing the praises of the new

canola

industry.)

Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect

repellent.

I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to kill the

aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very well; it suffocates

them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is used as a

lubricant,

fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a illuminate for color pages in

magazines.

It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rape oil, it seems, causes

emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability, and

blindness in animals and humans. Rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in

England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out. Remember

the

" Mad Cow disease " scare, when millions of cattle in the UK were slaughtered

in

case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture containing

material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called " scrapie " .

It was thought this was how " Mad Cow " began and started to infiltrate the

human

chain. What is interesting is that when rape oil was removed from animal

feed,

'scrapie' disappeared. We also haven't seen any further reports of " Mad Cow "

since rape oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically proven,

but

interesting all the same. US and Canadian farmers grow genetically

engineered

rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed

foods,

with the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies. The

canola

supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was

developed

from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering it is no

longer

rapeseed, but " canola " instead.

Except canola means " Canadian oil " ; and the plant is still a rape plant,

albeit

genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for commercial

interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on labels.

Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil. You'll find it in an

alarming number of processed foods. There's more, but to conclude: rape oil

was

the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard gas, which was banned after

blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers and

civilians

during W.W.I. Recent French reports indicate that it was again in use during

the

Gulf War.

Check products for ingredients. If the label says, " may contain the

following "

and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because it is the

cheapest

oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved in food

processing.

I don't know what you'll be cooking with tonight, but I'll be using olive

oil

and old-fashioned butter, from a genetically unmodified cow.

Here is more information..........

Canola oil from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because

Canada is

mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA. The Canadian government

and

industry paid our Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) $50 million

dollars

to have canola oil placed on the (GRAS) List " Generally Recognized As Safe "

..

Thus a new industry was created. Laws were enacted affecting international

trade, commerce, and traditional diets. Studies with lab animals were

disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals,

and

thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the deposits

dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies on humans

were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA.

Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused by a

build up of long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the myelin

(protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain fatty

acid

oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the Chinese and Indians

have used it for centuries with no effect, however it was in an unrefined

form.*

(* taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus.)

My cholesterol level was 150. After a year using Canola oil I tested 260. I

switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get it down to

160.

Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say that

Canola

oil is O.K.

My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5 pre-treatings and

harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola oil,

wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from cloth

easily.

Our Father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there was no rape

seed

in their food. He said, " The birds will eat it, but they do not live very

long. "

A friend, who worked for only 9 mo. as a quality control taster at an

apple-chip

factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, developed numerous

health problems. These included loose teeth & gum disease; numb hands and

feet;

swollen arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint pain

especially

in hands, cloudy vision, constipation with stools like black marbles,

hearing

loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart

pains.

It has been five years since she has worked there and still has some joint

pain,

gum disease, and numbness.

A fellow worker, about 30 years old, who ate very little product, had a

routine

check up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80 year old

man.

Two employees fed the waste product to baby calves and their hair fell out.

After removing the fried apple chips from the diet their hair grew back in.

My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. hit her mom's arm

with

the back of a butter knife in a gesture, " Oh mom " , not hard enough to hurt.

My

daughters arm split open like it was rotten. She called me to ask what could

have caused it. I said, " I'll bet anything that you are using Canola oil " .

Sure

enough, there was a big gallon jug in the pantry.

Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not for

human

consumption. It contains a toxic substance. (from encyclopedia). Even after

the

processing to reduce the erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating oil.

We

have found that it turns rancid very fast. Also it leaves a residual rancid

odor

on clothing.

Rape seed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer causing

chemicals. (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer) Amal Kumar Maj.

The Wall Street JournaL June 7, 1995 pB6 (W) pB6 (E) col 1(11 col in).

Compiled by Darleen Bradley.

Canola oil is a health hazard to use as a cooking oil or salad oil. It is

not

the healthy oil we thought it was. It is not fit for human consumption, do

not

eat canola oil, it can hurt you. Polyunsaturated or not, this is a bad oil.

Be Sure to also read this informative report written by leading health

expert

Tom Valentine, Canola Oil Report.

[Guest guest]

hello all this is a test thanks Raven

"Horten, Mona" wrote:

OK, you convinced me. I bought Canola Oil for

the first time and used it

last night. Guess I'll throw it out and buy veggie oil instead

to bake. I

always have olive oil on hand. I'm sure many health problems

stem from

processed foods, etc. Even consumption of fresh veggies and fruit

have been

grown in soil treated with chemical! Thanks for the info!

Canola Oil

RAPE IN A DIFFERENT GUISE

http://www.living-foods.com/board/read.php?f=1 & i=21641 & t=21641

Dear Editors

Recently I bought a cooking oil that's new to our supermarkets, Canola

Oil.

I

tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in "bad" fats.

However,

when

I had used half the bottle, I concluded that the label told me surprisingly

little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil come from?

Olive oil comes from olives, peanut oil from peanuts, sunflower oil

from

sunflowers; but what is a canola? There was nothing on the label to

enlighten

me, which I thought odd. So, I did some investigating on the Internet.

There

are

plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new "wonder" oil with

all its

low-fat health benefits. It takes a little longer to find sites that

tell

the

less palatable details.

Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything

containing

canola. Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word,

from

the

words "Canada" and "oil". Canola is a genetically engineered

plant

developed in

Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family

of

plants.

According to AgriAlternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology

Magazine

for Farmers, "By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been

used to

produce oils for industrial purposes, are... toxic to humans and other

animals".

(This, by the way, is one of the websites singing the praises of the

new

canola

industry.)

Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect

repellent.

I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to

kill the

aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very well; it suffocates

them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is used as a

lubricant,

fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a illuminate for color

pages in

magazines.

It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rape oil, it seems,

causes

emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability,

and

blindness in animals and humans. Rape oil was widely used in animal

feeds in

England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out.

Remember

the

"Mad Cow disease" scare, when millions of cattle in the UK were slaughtered

in

case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture

containing

material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called "scrapie".

It was thought this was how "Mad Cow" began and started to infiltrate

the

human

chain. What is interesting is that when rape oil was removed from animal

feed,

'scrapie' disappeared. We also haven't seen any further reports of

"Mad Cow"

since rape oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically

proven,

but

interesting all the same. US and Canadian farmers grow genetically

engineered

rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed

foods,

with the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies.

The

canola

supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was

developed

from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering it is

no

longer

rapeseed, but "canola" instead.

Except canola means "Canadian oil"; and the plant is still a rape plant,

albeit

genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for commercial

interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on

labels.

Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil. You'll

find it in an

alarming number of processed foods. There's more, but to conclude:

rape oil

was

the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard gas, which was banned

after

blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers

and

civilians

during W.W.I. Recent French reports indicate that it was again in use

during

the

Gulf War.

Check products for ingredients. If the label says, "may contain the

following"

and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because it is

the

cheapest

oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved

in food

processing.

I don't know what you'll be cooking with tonight, but I'll be using

olive

oil

and old-fashioned butter, from a genetically unmodified cow.

Here is more information..........

Canola oil from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because

Canada is

mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA. The Canadian government

and

industry paid our Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) $50 million

dollars

to have canola oil placed on the (GRAS) List "Generally Recognized

As Safe"

..

Thus a new industry was created. Laws were enacted affecting international

trade, commerce, and traditional diets. Studies with lab animals were

disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals,

and

thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the

deposits

dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies

on humans

were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA.

Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused

by a

build up of long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the

myelin

(protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain

fatty

acid

oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the Chinese and

Indians

have used it for centuries with no effect, however it was in an unrefined

form.*

(* taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus.)

My cholesterol level was 150. After a year using Canola oil I tested

260. I

switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get it

down to

160.

Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say

that

Canola

oil is O.K.

My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5 pre-treatings

and

harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola

oil,

wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from

cloth

easily.

Our Father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there was no

rape

seed

in their food. He said, "The birds will eat it, but they do not live

very

long."

A friend, who worked for only 9 mo. as a quality control taster at an

apple-chip

factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, developed

numerous

health problems. These included loose teeth & gum disease; numb

hands and

feet;

swollen arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint

pain

especially

in hands, cloudy vision, constipation with stools like black marbles,

hearing

loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart

pains.

It has been five years since she has worked there and still has some

joint

pain,

gum disease, and numbness.

A fellow worker, about 30 years old, who ate very little product, had

a

routine

check up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80

year old

man.

Two employees fed the waste product to baby calves and their hair fell

out.

After removing the fried apple chips from the diet their hair grew

back in.

My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. hit her mom's

arm

with

the back of a butter knife in a gesture, "Oh mom", not hard enough

to hurt.

My

daughters arm split open like it was rotten. She called me to ask what

could

have caused it. I said, "I'll bet anything that you are using Canola

oil".

Sure

enough, there was a big gallon jug in the pantry.

Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not

for

human

consumption. It contains a toxic substance. (from encyclopedia).

Even after

the

processing to reduce the erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating

oil.

We

have found that it turns rancid very fast. Also it leaves a residual

rancid

odor

on clothing.

Rape seed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer causing

chemicals. (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer) Amal Kumar Maj.

The Wall Street JournaL June 7, 1995 pB6 (W) pB6 (E) col 1(11

col in).

Compiled by Darleen Bradley.

Canola oil is a health hazard to use as a cooking oil or salad oil.

It is

not

the healthy oil we thought it was. It is not fit for human consumption,

do

not

eat canola oil, it can hurt you. Polyunsaturated or not, this

is a bad oil.

Be Sure to also read this informative report written by leading health

expert

Tom Valentine, Canola Oil Report.

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Hello all'

Rape seed oil is used in almost ALL FAST FOOD!@!@@ s BurgerKing

MCs Bo Dangles ALL OF THEM because it's cheap!

Raven

Marcia & Mike Pedde wrote:

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Dear Editors

Recently I bought a cooking oil that's new to our supermarkets, Canola

Oil. I

tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in "bad" fats.

However, when

I had used half the bottle, I concluded that the label told me surprisingly

little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil come from?

Olive oil comes from olives, peanut oil from peanuts, sunflower oil

from

sunflowers; but what is a canola? There was nothing on the label to

enlighten

me, which I thought odd. So, I did some investigating on the Internet.

There are

plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new "wonder" oil with

all its

low-fat health benefits. It takes a little longer to find sites that

tell the

less palatable details.

Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything

containing

canola. Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word,

from the

words "Canada" and "oil". Canola is a genetically engineered

plant developed in

Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family

of plants.

According to AgriAlternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology

Magazine

for Farmers, "By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been

used to

produce oils for industrial purposes, are... toxic to humans and other

animals".

(This, by the way, is one of the websites singing the praises of the

new canola

industry.)

Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect

repellent.

I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to

kill the

aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very well; it suffocates

them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is used as a

lubricant,

fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a illuminate for color

pages in

magazines.

It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rape oil, it seems,

causes

emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability,

and

blindness in animals and humans. Rape oil was widely used in animal

feeds in

England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out.

Remember the

"Mad Cow disease" scare, when millions of cattle in the UK were slaughtered

in

case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture

containing

material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called "scrapie".

It was thought this was how "Mad Cow" began and started to infiltrate

the human

chain. What is interesting is that when rape oil was removed from animal

feed,

'scrapie' disappeared. We also haven't seen any further reports of

"Mad Cow"

since rape oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically

proven, but

interesting all the same. US and Canadian farmers grow genetically

engineered

rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed

foods,

with the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies.

The canola

supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was

developed

from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering it is

no longer

rapeseed, but "canola" instead.

Except canola means "Canadian oil"; and the plant is still a rape plant,

albeit

genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for commercial

interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on

labels.

Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil. You'll

find it in an

alarming number of processed foods. There's more, but to conclude:

rape oil was

the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard gas, which was banned

after

blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers

and civilians

during W.W.I. Recent French reports indicate that it was again in use

during the

Gulf War.

Check products for ingredients. If the label says, "may contain the

following"

and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because it is

the cheapest

oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved

in food

processing.

I don't know what you'll be cooking with tonight, but I'll be using

olive oil

and old-fashioned butter, from a genetically unmodified cow.

Here is more information..........

Canola oil from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because

Canada is

mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA. The Canadian government

and

industry paid our Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) $50 million

dollars

to have canola oil placed on the (GRAS) List "Generally Recognized

As Safe" .

Thus a new industry was created. Laws were enacted affecting international

trade, commerce, and traditional diets. Studies with lab animals were

disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals,

and

thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the

deposits

dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies

on humans

were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA.

Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused

by a

build up of long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the

myelin

(protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain

fatty acid

oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the Chinese and

Indians

have used it for centuries with no effect, however it was in an unrefined

form.*

(* taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus.)

My cholesterol level was 150. After a year using Canola oil I tested

260. I

switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get it

down to 160.

Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say

that Canola

oil is O.K.

My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5 pre-treatings

and

harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola

oil,

wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from

cloth

easily.

Our Father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there was no

rape seed

in their food. He said, "The birds will eat it, but they do not live

very long."

A friend, who worked for only 9 mo. as a quality control taster at an

apple-chip

factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, developed

numerous

health problems. These included loose teeth & gum disease; numb

hands and feet;

swollen arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint

pain especially

in hands, cloudy vision, constipation with stools like black marbles,

hearing

loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart

pains.

It has been five years since she has worked there and still has some

joint pain,

gum disease, and numbness.

A fellow worker, about 30 years old, who ate very little product, had

a routine

check up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80

year old man.

Two employees fed the waste product to baby calves and their hair fell

out.

After removing the fried apple chips from the diet their hair grew

back in.

My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. hit her mom's

arm with

the back of a butter knife in a gesture, "Oh mom", not hard enough

to hurt. My

daughters arm split open like it was rotten. She called me to ask what

could

have caused it. I said, "I'll bet anything that you are using Canola

oil". Sure

enough, there was a big gallon jug in the pantry.

Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not

for human

consumption. It contains a toxic substance. (from encyclopedia).

Even after the

processing to reduce the erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating

oil. We

have found that it turns rancid very fast. Also it leaves a residual

rancid odor

on clothing.

Rape seed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer causing

chemicals. (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer) Amal Kumar Maj.

The Wall Street JournaL June 7, 1995 pB6 (W) pB6 (E) col 1(11

col in).

Compiled by Darleen Bradley.

Canola oil is a health hazard to use as a cooking oil or salad oil.

It is not

the healthy oil we thought it was. It is not fit for human consumption,

do not

eat canola oil, it can hurt you. Polyunsaturated or not, this

is a bad oil.

Be Sure to also read this informative report written by leading health

expert

Tom Valentine, Canola Oil Report.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Raven, You're right about canola oil and fast food. When the Canadians

developed it they kindly thought of us, knowing full well that Americans

would surely go for anything cheap and fast, to heck with the facts! Canola

oil is one of the great successful marketing scams put over on the American

public by major U.S corporations who saw a fast way to turn a buck. Other

than the fact that they developed this product, I've always liked the

Canadians. I even considered moving there after the recent joke of an

election we had.

Penny

[Guest guest]

> Hi Raven, You're right about canola oil and fast food. When the Canadians

> developed it they kindly thought of us, knowing full well that Americans

> would surely go for anything cheap and fast, to heck with the facts! Canola

> oil is one of the great successful marketing scams put over on the American

> public by major U.S corporations who saw a fast way to turn a buck. Other

> than the fact that they developed this product, I've always liked the

> Canadians. I even considered moving there after the recent joke of an

> election we had.

And we would welcome you!

[Guest guest]

I threw out the Canola oil last night and replaced it with Wesson vegetable

oil. I use this for baking!

Re: Canola Oil

> Hi Raven, You're right about canola oil and fast food. When the Canadians

> developed it they kindly thought of us, knowing full well that Americans

> would surely go for anything cheap and fast, to heck with the facts!

Canola

> oil is one of the great successful marketing scams put over on the

American

> public by major U.S corporations who saw a fast way to turn a buck. Other

> than the fact that they developed this product, I've always liked the

> Canadians. I even considered moving there after the recent joke of an

> election we had.

And we would welcome you!

[Guest guest]

<<Thanks Jan for bringing this to our attention. Joanie et al seem to disagree, but why take a chance with our health. Anything subjected to high temperatures in processing or anything subjected to any processing, for that matter, is probably bad for us.>>

hey, Ben!

I do not agree or disagree with Canola oil usage. I just pointed out some basic facts, that had largely to do with the botany of the plant. Perhaps I did not stress the point that Canola was developed to eliminate the Erucic acid processing that the European oil goes through. That is why it was in demand in Healthfood stores way before most Americans ever heard of it.

And Olive Oil? I personally know an Olive Oil exporter in Turkey...he sent me some pure rose oil for Christmas.

Most Olive Oil in the US is refined as Americans do not like the high flavor and acidity of the 100% unrefined.

" Pure " olive oil is as much as 90% refined, with some natural mixed in for flavor. Lots of so-called olive oils are mixed with as much as 90% Canola. Those who do not read posts or labels well, are likely using Canola oil without even knowing it, and feeling smug about it, too. The strong flavored Extra virgin is not refined, but it is very pricey and the best of it just does not show up on American store shelves. Joanie

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Hi Pamela,

I found the article on Canola Oil and thought I would send it out for

you:>) I know you were trying to find it again.......Tonya

> > Dear Editors

> > Recently I bought a cooking oil that's new to our supermarkets, Canola

> > Oil.

> > I tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in " bad " fats.

> > However, when I had used half the bottle, I concluded that the label

> > told me

> > surprisingly little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil

> > come

> > from? Olive oil comes from olives, peanut oil from peanuts, sunflower

> > oil

> > from sunflowers; but what is a canola? There was nothing on the label

> > to

> > enlighten me, which I thought odd. So, I did some investigating on the

> > Internet. There are plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new

> > " wonder " oil with all its low-fat health benefits. It takes a little

> > longer

> > to find sites that tell the less palatable details.

> > Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything

> > containing canola. Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a

> > made-up

> > word, from the words " Canada " and " oil " . Canola is a genetically

> > engineered

> > plant developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the

> > mustard family of plants. According to AgriAlternatives, The Online

> > Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, " By nature, these

> > rapeseed

> > oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial

> > purposes,

> > are... toxic to humans and other animals " . (This, by the way, is one of

> > the

> > websites singing the praises of the new canola industry).

> > Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect

> > repellent. I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per

> > instructions)

> > to kill the aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very

> > well;

> > it suffocates them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is

> > used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a

> > illuminate for color pages in magazines. It is an industrial oil. It is

> > not

> > a food. Rape oil, it seems, causes emphysema, respiratory distress,

> > anemia,

> > constipation, irritability, and blindness in animals and humans. Rape

> > oil

> > was widely used in animal feeds in England and Europe between 1986 and

> > 1991, when it was thrown out. Remember the " Mad Cow disease " scare,

> > when

> > millions

> > of cattle in the UK were slaughtered in case of infecting humans?

> > Cattle

> > were being fed on a mixture containing material from dead sheep, and

> > sheep

> > suffer from a disease called " scrapie " . It was thought this was how

> > " Mad

> > Cow " began and started to infiltrate the human chain. What is

> > interesting

> > is that when rape oil was removed from animal feed, 'scrapie'

> > disappeared.

> > We also haven't seen any further reports of " Mad Cow " since rape oil

> > was

> > removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically proven, but

> > interesting

> > all the same. US and Canadian farmers grow genetically engineered

> > rapeseed

> > and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed foods,

> > with

> > the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies. The

> > canola

> > supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was

> > developed from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic

> > engineering

> > it

> > is no longer rapeseed, but " canola " instead.

> > Except canola means " Canadian oil " ; and the plant is still a rape

> > plant,

> > albeit genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for

> > commercial interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients

> > list on labels. Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil.

> > You'll find it in an alarming number of processed foods. There's more,

> > but

> > to conclude: rape oil was the source of the chemical warfare agent

> > mustard

> > gas, which was banned after blistering the lungs and skins of hundred

> > of

> > thousands of soldiers and civilians during W.W.I. Recent French reports

> > indicate that it was again in use during the Gulf War.

> > Check products for ingredients. If the label says, " may contain the

> > following " and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil

> > because

> > it

> > is the cheapest oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to

> > industries

> > involved in food processing.

> > I don't know what you'll be cooking with tonight, but I'll be using

> > olive

> > oil and old-fashioned butter, from a genetically unmodified cow.

> > Here is more information..........

> > Canola oil from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because

> > Canada is mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA. The

> > Canadian

> > government and industry paid our Federal Food and Drug Administration

> > (FDA)

> > $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on the (GRAS) List,

> > " Generally

> > Recognized As Safe " . Thus a new industry was created. Laws were enacted

> > affecting international trade, commerce, and traditional diets. Studies

> > with

> > lab. animals were disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of

> > heart,

> > kidney, adrenals, and thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from

> > their diets, the deposits dissolved but scar tissue remained on all

> > vital

> > organs. No studies on humans were made before money was spent to

> > promote

> > Canola oil in the USA. Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal

> > degenerative disease caused by a build up long-chain fatty acids (c22

> > to

> > c28) which destroys the myelin (protective sheath) of the nerves.

> > Canola

> > oil

> > is a very long chain fatty acid oil (c22). Those who will defend canola

> > oil

> > say that the Chinese and Indians have used it for centuries with no

> > effect,

> > however it was in an unrefined form ( taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND

> > FATS

> > THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus). My cholesterol level was 150. After a year

> > using Canola oil I tested 260. I switched back to pure olive oil and it

> > has

> > taken 5 years to get it down to 160. Thus began this project to find

> > answers since most Doctors will say that Canola oil is O.K.

> > My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5

> > pre-treatings

> > and

> > harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola

> > oil,

> > wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from

> > cloth

> > easily. Our Father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there

> > was

> > no rape seed in their food. He said, " The birds will eat it, but they

> > do

> > not live very long. " . A friend, who worked for only 9 mo. as a quality

> > control taster at an apple-chip factory where Canola oil was used

> > exclusively for frying, developed numerous health problems. These

> > included

> > loose teeth & gum disease; numb hands and feet; swollen arms and legs

> > upon

> > rising in the morning; extreme joint pain especially in hands, cloudy

> > vision, constipation with stools like black marbles, hearing loss; skin

> > tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart pains. It

> > has

> > been five years since she has worked there and still has some joint

> > pain,

> > gum disease, and numbness. A fellow worker, about 30 years old, who ate

> > very little product, had a routine check up and found that his blood

> > vessels

> > were like those of an 80 year old man. Two employees fed the waste

> > product

> > to baby calves and their hair fell out. After removing the fried apple

> > chips from the diet their hair grew back in.

> > My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. hit her mom's

> > arm

> > with the back of a butter knife in a gesture, " Oh mom " not hard enough

> > to

> > hurt. My daughters arm split open like it was rotten. She called me to

> > ask

> > what could have caused it. I said, " I'll bet anything that you are

> > using

> > Canola oil " . Sure enough, there was a big gallon jug in the pantry.

> > Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not

> > for

> > human consumption. It contains a toxic substance. Even after the

> > processing

> > to reduce the erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating oil. We

> > have

> > found that it turns rancid very fast. Also it leaves a residual rancid

> > odor

> > on clothing.

> > Rape seed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer

> > causing

> > chemicals. (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer), Amal Kumar Maj. The

> > Wall Street JournaL June 7, 1995 pB6(W) pB6 (E) col 1(11 col in).

> > Compiled

> > by Darleen Bradley.

> > Canola oil is a health hazard to use as a cooking oil or salad oil. It

> > is

> > not the healthy oil we thought it was. It is not fit for human

> > consumption,

> > do not eat canola oil, it can hurt you. Polyunsaturated or not, this is

> > a

> > bad oil.

> > Be Sure to also read this informative report written by leading health

> > expert Tom Valentine, Canola Oil Report. </columns/canola2f.htm>

> > Go to Ask Jeeves yourself: http://www.askjeeves.com/ and type in (Where

> > does Canola Oil come from?) and see what you come up with.

> > Happy Frying,

> > Rodney W. Flynn

> > Lucent Technologies

> > VIRGOS-AC Development

> > Phone *: 978-960-3166

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Canola oil is rapeseed oil marketed under another name and it is very bad

for the body! I'll try to find the article on it I got from another list...

I highly recommend extra virgin olive oil instead.

estepa37@... wrote:

as for oils i do

canola

oil if i had to frie anything i try not to.

t

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canola oil

Any ideas for how to use up my 3 quarts of organic cold pressed canola

oil? I bought it before I read the Coconut Oil Miracle. My daughter's

optomotrist in Tanzania said canola and other vegetable oil can lead

to macular degeneration, and that canola is the worst.

I thought about making a soft soap with it, but then it would get in

my pores.

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Sorry for the accidental post! I have two ideas for this: (1) you could

use it to grease a squeaky chair or auto part; or (2) you could file it in

your nearest handy circular file. That's what I would do.

Nina

canola oil

Any ideas for how to use up my 3 quarts of organic cold pressed canola

oil? I bought it before I read the Coconut Oil Miracle. My daughter's

optomotrist in Tanzania said canola and other vegetable oil can lead

to macular degeneration, and that canola is the worst.

I thought about making a soft soap with it, but then it would get in

my pores.

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What about pourng along a fence line so you don't have to weed eat?!

Nina Moliver <ninalynn@...> wrote:Sorry for the accidental post! I have

two ideas for this: (1) you could

use it to grease a squeaky chair or auto part; or (2) you could file it in

your nearest handy circular file. That's what I would do.

Nina

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My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put them on

Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can the body

change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.

mb

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Flax oil or mixed plant based EFAs makes more sense.

S S

My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put them on<BR>

Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can the body <BR>

change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.<BR>

mb<BR>

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I have heard of canola oil by Spectrum. However, I am not sure it

will give you all the EFA's you need. I think it is mainly an Omega

3 source. I don't know if it has any vitamin A to offer or not.

But flax oil is very natural and usually tolerable. We use ground

flax seed here, some use oils.

For vitamin A sources we just use Vitamin A supplements, I prick the

gel cap with a sterile pin and squeeze the A oil onto food. It has

no taste.

>

> My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put them

on<BR>

> Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can the

body <BR>

> change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.<BR>

> mb<BR>

>

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Isn't the new high beta-carotene canola oil a genetically modified

food? I'm no fan of tinkering with old Mother Nature! I'm just not

sure how much you'd need to take to get high doses of Vitamin A. I

guess the body would also have to be able to efficiently convert the

betacarotene in to Vitamin A (only animal fats contain Vitamin A,

right?).

Canola oil does contain alpha-linolenic acid, an Omega 3, but our

bodies are woefully inefficient at converting ALA to EPA/DHA (the

utilizable Omega 3s). So, you're not going to get tons of EFA help

here.

Interesting choice to supplement with canola oil. Honestly, I've

never heard of that before (as far as for getting Vitamin A)...

doesn't mean I know it all, of course!

I agree that flax would be a better choice for EFAs if you cannot

use fish oils or cod liver oils (Barlean's makes an awesome

product). I haven't done high dose Vitamin A protocols, so I'll

leave that to another parent.

Good luck to you.

Pam

> >

> > My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put them

> on<BR>

> > Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can the

> body <BR>

> > change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.<BR>

> > mb<BR>

> >

> >

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>

> My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put them

on<BR>

> Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can the

body <BR>

> change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.<BR>

> mb<BR>

>

You might want to look into camelina oil for EFAs. You could use

something like Vitamin Shoppe carotenoid complex for a Vitamin A

source. We concoct a vile mix of OJ, probiotics, calcium, Ester-C,

CLO, camelina oil, oral B12, and Caretenoid Complex twice a day.

The amazing thing - my son drinks it!!

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There have been a few articles I've read claiming that Canola Oil is pretty much

just sludge that industry has been trying to pass off as a healthy product, with

an invented name and all. Of course, there are just as many articles claiming

that this is untrue, but I'm pretty uncomfortable with Canola Oil - I never buy

it any more.

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From: " noaholiviaian " <phaselow@...>

Isn't the new high beta-carotene canola oil a genetically modified

food? I'm no fan of tinkering with old Mother Nature! I'm just not

sure how much you'd need to take to get high doses of Vitamin A. I

guess the body would also have to be able to efficiently convert the

betacarotene in to Vitamin A (only animal fats contain Vitamin A,

right?).

Canola oil does contain alpha-linolenic acid, an Omega 3, but our

bodies are woefully inefficient at converting ALA to EPA/DHA (the

utilizable Omega 3s). So, you're not going to get tons of EFA help

here.

Interesting choice to supplement with canola oil. Honestly, I've

never heard of that before (as far as for getting Vitamin A)...

doesn't mean I know it all, of course!

I agree that flax would be a better choice for EFAs if you cannot

use fish oils or cod liver oils (Barlean's makes an awesome

product). I haven't done high dose Vitamin A protocols, so I'll

leave that to another parent.

Good luck to you.

Pam

> >

> > My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put them

> on<BR>

> > Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can the

> body <BR>

> > change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.<BR>

> > mb<BR>

> >

> >

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Here's an article that would fit that description:

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/conola.html

René

>

> There have been a few articles I've read claiming that Canola Oil is

pretty much just sludge that industry has been trying to pass off as a

healthy product, with an invented name and all. Of course, there are

just as many articles claiming that this is untrue, but I'm pretty

uncomfortable with Canola Oil - I never buy it any more.

[Guest guest]

My daughter's gut issues were made much worst by canola oil. Dr. Gottchall said

that heated, it's poisen.

eyesnelson@... wrote: There have been a few articles I've read claiming

that Canola Oil is pretty much just sludge that industry has been trying to pass

off as a healthy product, with an invented name and all. Of course, there are

just as many articles claiming that this is untrue, but I'm pretty uncomfortable

with Canola Oil - I never buy it any more.

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From: " noaholiviaian " <phaselow@...>

Isn't the new high beta-carotene canola oil a genetically modified

food? I'm no fan of tinkering with old Mother Nature! I'm just not

sure how much you'd need to take to get high doses of Vitamin A. I

guess the body would also have to be able to efficiently convert the

betacarotene in to Vitamin A (only animal fats contain Vitamin A,

right?).

Canola oil does contain alpha-linolenic acid, an Omega 3, but our

bodies are woefully inefficient at converting ALA to EPA/DHA (the

utilizable Omega 3s). So, you're not going to get tons of EFA help

here.

Interesting choice to supplement with canola oil. Honestly, I've

never heard of that before (as far as for getting Vitamin A)...

doesn't mean I know it all, of course!

I agree that flax would be a better choice for EFAs if you cannot

use fish oils or cod liver oils (Barlean's makes an awesome

product). I haven't done high dose Vitamin A protocols, so I'll

leave that to another parent.

Good luck to you.

Pam

> >

> > My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put them

> on<BR>

> > Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can the

> body <BR>

> > change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.<BR>

> > mb<BR>

> >

> >

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ANY oil turns rancid when heated!!! Oil is sensitive to heat,

oxygen and light - so one should first of all buy unrefined oil.

Secondly, the oil should be in a dark glass container or box

(sometimes that is hard to find, so there is tin - but tin isn't a

great medium). Third oil should be used relatively quickly, the

longer it is exposed to oxygen, the quicker it goes rancid. Certain

oils should NOT be heated or heated at low temps. Oils high in

Omega 3 oils shouldn't be at high temperatures as well as olive

oil. If one has to cook with high temperature, the safest

(considering heat) is peanut or a long carbon chain monosaturated

fat.

If you want a GREAT resource to learn about fats and oils, go to

http://www.udoerasmus.com/FAQ.htm

With reference to canola oil, it comes from the rape seed, which is

related to the mustard family. It is not poisonous, however,

because it does have Omega 3 efa, it should not be used at high

temperature. Unrefined soybean oil is better! That story about

canola oil being dangerous is untrue - see Dr. Udo Erasmus (also

known as the father of fats) explains in great detail.

Hope that helps!

Roe

> > >

> > > My sons don't seem to tolerate CLO well and my DAN has put

them

> > on<BR>

> > > Canola oil by Spectrum. Has anyone heard of this before? Can

the

> > body <BR>

> > > change the fats in this oil to A? I'm a bit confused.<BR>

> > > mb<BR>

> > >

> > >

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Listmates,

Thanks for the enlightening info regarding canola oil. We do not heat

it, however, it is given straigth from the bottle mixed with a little

yogurt for drinkability. They take it pretty well. I am noticing that

my twins' dry skin in coming back. They have very sensitive skin and

cracking peeling between the toes. It had gone away on CLO and omega

(nordic). They seem to be tolerating it ok, althouh I think I may

reintroduce the CLO in small amounts after I get the supps under

control. Is a multi necessary if the child is on assorted vitamins and

supps?

mb

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I would suggest sticking with only Omega 3 oil, such as Flaxseed or

CLO (Nordic naturals that is ONLY Omega3). The biggest problem is

that our bodys' EFA balance is off. It is typically high in Omega 6

& 9 and not enough Omega 3. So we only supplement Omega 3 EFA

(which is cod liver or flax). Canola oil has both 6 & 9 (refer to

Edo's page on oils for amounts).

Multi vitamins are not assorbed well, whole food supplements should

be used instead. I will post an article on that...

Roe

>

> Listmates,

> Thanks for the enlightening info regarding canola oil. We do not

heat

> it, however, it is given straigth from the bottle mixed with a

little

> yogurt for drinkability. They take it pretty well. I am noticing

that

> my twins' dry skin in coming back. They have very sensitive skin

and

> cracking peeling between the toes. It had gone away on CLO and

omega

> (nordic). They seem to be tolerating it ok, althouh I think I may

> reintroduce the CLO in small amounts after I get the supps under

> control. Is a multi necessary if the child is on assorted vitamins

and

> supps?

> mb

>