Re: yeasty kid - does anyone have a child like mine?

November 30, 2006

Yup, this is why they call it the " Yeast Beast. " Yes, it's terrible. Yeast

can definitely " hide " any progress you are making in many, many areas. Our

son does very well on Diflucan also.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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Subject: [ ] yeasty kid - does anyone have a child like mine?

My 7 year old has yeast issue and for the past 10 months we have been

treating it with anti-fungal medicine and some other things like

Candidase.

I do understand that yeast is one of the biggest issues with him.

When we use Diflucan, he gets very alert, more 'with-it'. We have

been doing MB12 shots for the last 5 months and chelation (TD-DMPS -

every 8 hours, 3 days on/4 days off) for 8 rounds and we saw nice gains.

But what I don't understand is that whenever his yeast is back, I feel

that we lost everything that we have built on for him...he is not

talking much, yells and cries, giggles a lot, we have to repeat the

same questions over and over to get a simple answer...when he is like

that, I get dipressed and think about reprogramming his home programs

etc. and then when we start anti-fungal, he is really good and I feel

like I wasted my time thinking about reprogramming...

I know that there are lots of kids who have yeast issues here. But

are there any kids who are as bumpy as my son? Even when my son is

'good', his language is still bad, but he at least looks more 'normal'

to me and he doesn't look as 'hangover'ish as he is when he has yeast...

My DAN! suggested SCD but I don't have enough courage to go for it yet...

thanks,

harumi

November 30, 2006

Harumi,

We too have a super yeasty kiddo. I have found that we have to keep

my little guy on Rx antifungals all the time and add in other

support, like massive probiotics, candex, etc. every day. We have

been tinkering with Neutrophil +, which worked very well for

and I think a few others as well, but are not totally up to speed on

it (copper issues - there is a small amount of copper in N + - were

freaking me out, but I think I am over that).

The yeast here has gotten significantly better of late, though I

suppose we will be fighting this battle daily until the day no biomed

interventions are required (should that ever come to pass).

My advice is to be agressive about treating for yeast. Ask your doc

if you can get an unlimited pass with the Rxs and get other OTC stuff

on board that is well tolerated. And keep chelating, chelating,

chelating! FWIW, when we chelate I give 6 candex/day during the

daytime and slip the Rx in at night with the ALA (easy enough if your

kid takes pills).

Anne

>

> My 7 year old has yeast issue and for the past 10 months we have

been

> treating it with anti-fungal medicine and some other things like

> Candidase.

>

> I do understand that yeast is one of the biggest issues with him.

> When we use Diflucan, he gets very alert, more 'with-it'. We have

> been doing MB12 shots for the last 5 months and chelation (TD-DMPS -

> every 8 hours, 3 days on/4 days off) for 8 rounds and we saw nice

gains.

>

> But what I don't understand is that whenever his yeast is back, I

feel

> that we lost everything that we have built on for him...he is not

> talking much, yells and cries, giggles a lot, we have to repeat the

> same questions over and over to get a simple answer...when he is

like

> that, I get dipressed and think about reprogramming his home

programs

> etc. and then when we start anti-fungal, he is really good and I

feel

> like I wasted my time thinking about reprogramming...

>

> I know that there are lots of kids who have yeast issues here. But

> are there any kids who are as bumpy as my son? Even when my son is

> 'good', his language is still bad, but he at least looks

more 'normal'

> to me and he doesn't look as 'hangover'ish as he is when he has

yeast...

>

> My DAN! suggested SCD but I don't have enough courage to go for it

yet...

>

> thanks,

>

> harumi

>

November 30, 2006

You won't be able to get the yeast under control until you deal with diet and

stop " feeding " them. What are your concerns about SCD? What's your kid's

current diet like?

S S

My DAN! suggested SCD but I don't have enough courage to go for it yet...

thanks,

harumi

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November 30, 2006

> But what I don't understand is that whenever his yeast is back, I feel

> that we lost everything that we have built on for him...he is not

> talking much, yells and cries, giggles a lot, we have to repeat the

> same questions over and over to get a simple answer...

Oh yes. My son has lost his dx, on most days seems completely NT, but

when he gets yeast (which he still does, after 3+ years of biomed) a

lot of those symptoms come back -- not being able to respond to

questions, grouchy, being very literal-minded, crying over little

things, etc.

> I know that there are lots of kids who have yeast issues here. But

> are there any kids who are as bumpy as my son?

A lot of them. You have plenty of company, lol.

> My DAN! suggested SCD but I don't have enough courage to go for it

yet...

If it helps, SCD did not help my son's yeast at all. But you might try

taking away one thing at time, starting with the biggest

yeast-producer (bread, potatoes, high glycemic-index foods) and see if

that helps. Try for as low sugar as you can.

Nell

November 30, 2006

I think the SCD is more supposed to address bacterial issues, while

the Body Ecology Diet is directed towrads yeast. But to me, Body

Ecology seems far more difficult- but perhaps more effective. My son

has been on SCD since July, and I don't think it helped with yeast.

>

> > But what I don't understand is that whenever his yeast is back, I

feel

> > that we lost everything that we have built on for him...he is not

> > talking much, yells and cries, giggles a lot, we have to repeat

the

> > same questions over and over to get a simple answer...

>

> Oh yes. My son has lost his dx, on most days seems completely NT,

but

> when he gets yeast (which he still does, after 3+ years of biomed) a

> lot of those symptoms come back -- not being able to respond to

> questions, grouchy, being very literal-minded, crying over little

> things, etc.

>

> > I know that there are lots of kids who have yeast issues here.

But

> > are there any kids who are as bumpy as my son?

>

> A lot of them. You have plenty of company, lol.

>

> > My DAN! suggested SCD but I don't have enough courage to go for it

> yet...

>

> If it helps, SCD did not help my son's yeast at all. But you might

try

> taking away one thing at time, starting with the biggest

> yeast-producer (bread, potatoes, high glycemic-index foods) and see

if

> that helps. Try for as low sugar as you can.

>

> Nell

>

November 30, 2006

" My DAN! suggested SCD but I don't have enough courage to go for it yet... "

The SCD is a great diet. It is very nourishing and starves out the yeast.

It's really not that hard. Have you read the book about it? " Breaking The

Vicious Cycle " by Elaine Gottschall. It explains how the diet works and why it

is

successful for many people. Read the book and consider giving it a try. I

hope it works for you.

In a message dated 11/30/2006 10:08:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jenniferdmeade@... writes:

Hi, we stay ON preservative free flucanazole (diflucan - low dose 1/4 tsp

per day) as well and doing 200 billion CFUs of probiotics a day (Three Lac,

ProBio Gold, Therbiotic Detx, Therbiotic Complete & Scaah. Boulardi). It's not

uncommon for our kids to have to stay on the antifungals. We do CBC liver

checks regulary and use Milk Thistle for liver support. We've been doing this

for

18 months and in our latest test, yeast came back negative. Of course now we

have to deal w/ gut bacteria...

harumistew <_ct-stewarts@ct-stewartct-_ (mailto:ct-stewarts@...) >

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