Re: help...food addict living in my house

[Guest guest]

The first thing I would suspect is a food or supplement intolerance. My

daughter is like that after having had an infraction. Her stomach bothers

her for days after and she thinks putting food in it will make the low-level

ache go away. While it may do so temporarily, it only makes things worse.

--

Rima Regas

Mom to Leah, age 8 (AS, DSI and APD)

http://www.sensoryintegrationhelp.com

On 5/21/06, dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...> wrote:

>

> My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long. Every

> minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else he

> wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he still

> manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining for more

> food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast protocol

> along with vitamins and chelation.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

In our case, this was a sign of not metabolizing food well. Although

he was eating all day long, he would keep asking for food as if his

system was not getting what it required. I don;t know if this makes

sense. Digestive enzymes helped us tremendously in this area.

If my son had been asking for a specific food/s, I would have beens

suspicious, but he would eat anything you gave him (even he did not

like it that much) as long as he was eating. His stools very often had

chunks of food.I don't know if this is your case.

I know how nerve-breaking this situation can be! I sincerely hope that

you find an answer soon,

[Guest guest]

I would suspect he is deficient in something, either due to poor

digestion or limited food choices. Constant eating is the body telling

you that it needs some particular nutrient that it is not getting.

Also, yeast can make you starving all the time. Once I treated the

yeast, we all stayed out of the kitchen. I notices appetites going

down. What types of food is he craving? Are they mostly starchy? If

so, that would be yeast. If he is craving odd things, like say

broccoli then you could suspect a nutrient. Make a list of the types

of foods he is beggin for. Then figure out what nutrients are in them.

Make sure he is getting enought of those, and add enzymes to be sure

he is digesting what he eats.

>

> My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long. Every

> minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else he

> wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he still

> manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining for more

> food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast protocol

> along with vitamins and chelation.

>

[Guest guest]

What intresting things did you find when you researched " hunger autism "

I found it intresting... Ann

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-26-02.htm

http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

[Guest guest]

Our little one did not test allergic, to anything. As a general rule, unless

there are big allergies to something, I am not in favor of removing whole

nutritious food groups, at all. Even with a bonafide allergy, I am in favor of

removing the offending substance only for a short time, while working on the

allergy, then putting it back, straightway.

Our Dan! said remove milk, even in the absence of an allergy. We did for three

weeks and she lost language and if there was ever a sicker looking kid, I don't

want to see them, so we put it back. Then the dan! said " no fruit, except

pears. " Come on, fruit is a wonderful source of vitamins/minerals/fiber and

antioxidants!

I have heard a lot of people say when they removed the things their child was

allergic to they developed allergies to other foods, the allergies just shifted

to other things. Better to shore up the immune system to handle what the body

needs, IMHO.

[ ] Re: help...food addict living in my house

What intresting things did you find when you researched " hunger autism "

I found it intresting... Ann

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-26-02.htm

http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

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[Guest guest]

he craves any and everything. most of the time he pulls fruits out

of the fridge, like strawberries, watermelon, apples and grapes.

sometimes he'll pull out other things like cheese or yogurt but most

of the time it is fruit. he eats so much it's ridiculous!

> >

> > My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long.

Every

> > minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else

he

> > wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he still

> > manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining for

more

> > food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> > ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast

protocol

> > along with vitamins and chelation.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for the articles. my son was given the IgG test and i removed

all the foods that came up with positive reactions out of his diet for

4 months. He didn't improve at all, he regressed. when i added the

foods back in he got a lot better. he always has had perfect bowel

movements. i think that is one of the best indicators of health. he

does seem to react to foods that have additives in them though.

>

> What intresting things did you find when you researched " hunger

autism "

> I found it intresting... Ann

> http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-26-02.htm

> http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

>

[Guest guest]

I had the same experience ! I have read a lot about the IgG

testing and it is not positive. They have tested all the major

places that do the testing and they come back with different results

every time from the same person. Every doctor and immunologist I've

talked to says we don't know enough about the IgG and how it affects

people. It probably helps for some people to take the things out of

the diet but not everyone (especially my son who MAJORLY regressed!!)

>

> Our little one did not test allergic, to anything. As a general

rule, unless there are big allergies to something, I am not in favor

of removing whole nutritious food groups, at all. Even with a

bonafide allergy, I am in favor of removing the offending substance

only for a short time, while working on the allergy, then putting it

back, straightway.

>

> Our Dan! said remove milk, even in the absence of an allergy. We

did for three weeks and she lost language and if there was ever a

sicker looking kid, I don't want to see them, so we put it back.

Then the dan! said " no fruit, except pears. " Come on, fruit is a

wonderful source of vitamins/minerals/fiber and antioxidants!

>

> I have heard a lot of people say when they removed the things

their child was allergic to they developed allergies to other foods,

the allergies just shifted to other things. Better to shore up the

immune system to handle what the body needs, IMHO.

>

>

> [ ] Re: help...food addict living in my

house

>

>

> What intresting things did you find when you researched " hunger

autism "

> I found it intresting... Ann

> http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-26-

02.htm

> http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?

itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

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[Guest guest]

My kiddo eats like a fiend when his yeast is high.

Anne

>

> My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long. Every

> minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else he

> wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he still

> manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining for more

> food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast protocol

> along with vitamins and chelation.

>

[Guest guest]

On the other side of this IgG debate--- plus 2 was the only 'high'

result we got. It was peanut. She hadn't had peanut in years because

we already knew it made her crazy. Only when we withdrew gluten,

casein, and soy were seizures tamed. They were all rated a plus 1 on

the standard 90 panel. Our clue to those was an IgG test that

Seroussi mentioned in her book done through a research project

several years ago. Both gluten and casein scored very high on this

test. Why not on the other? beats me. I was just happy to have some

seizure control. traditional and not so traditional allergy testing

had not defined either of these as triggers for her either. This

marked dietary response is what led me to the vaccine connection.

> >

> > Our little one did not test allergic, to anything. As a general

> rule, unless there are big allergies to something, I am not in

favor

> of removing whole nutritious food groups, at all. Even with a

> bonafide allergy, I am in favor of removing the offending substance

> only for a short time, while working on the allergy, then putting

it

> back, straightway.

> >

> > Our Dan! said remove milk, even in the absence of an allergy. We

> did for three weeks and she lost language and if there was ever a

> sicker looking kid, I don't want to see them, so we put it back.

> Then the dan! said " no fruit, except pears. " Come on, fruit is a

> wonderful source of vitamins/minerals/fiber and antioxidants!

> >

> > I have heard a lot of people say when they removed the things

> their child was allergic to they developed allergies to other

foods,

> the allergies just shifted to other things. Better to shore up the

> immune system to handle what the body needs, IMHO.

> >

> >

> > [ ] Re: help...food addict living in my

> house

> >

> >

> > What intresting things did you find when you researched " hunger

> autism "

> > I found it intresting... Ann

> > http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-26-

> 02.htm

> > http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?

> itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

You are on one tough road. Maybe this can help you figure out what is

happening. http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/food-allergy.html#IgE

I found that no matter what I change my son diet to.... that food would

soon be the food that was leaking through the gut wall.

http://www.enzymestuff.com/rtsensorygut.htm

My 2 cents Ann

[Guest guest]

we actually got +4 on about 10 foods when my son took the test! my

son doesn't have seizures and has good poops so the only way i had

to measure if anything was happening was his behavior, which got

progressively worse until 4 months later we quit. and we were

extremely careful about everything he ate!

anyways, i don't think there is a debate. some children get better

from removing the foods and some don't. i'm very glad your child's

seizures stopped!! that is wonderful and you should definitely

continue doing what you're doing!

> > >

> > > Our little one did not test allergic, to anything. As a

general

> > rule, unless there are big allergies to something, I am not in

> favor

> > of removing whole nutritious food groups, at all. Even with a

> > bonafide allergy, I am in favor of removing the offending

substance

> > only for a short time, while working on the allergy, then

putting

> it

> > back, straightway.

> > >

> > > Our Dan! said remove milk, even in the absence of an allergy.

We

> > did for three weeks and she lost language and if there was ever

a

> > sicker looking kid, I don't want to see them, so we put it back.

> > Then the dan! said " no fruit, except pears. " Come on, fruit is

a

> > wonderful source of vitamins/minerals/fiber and antioxidants!

> > >

> > > I have heard a lot of people say when they removed the things

> > their child was allergic to they developed allergies to other

> foods,

> > the allergies just shifted to other things. Better to shore up

the

> > immune system to handle what the body needs, IMHO.

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] Re: help...food addict living in

my

> > house

> > >

> > >

> > > What intresting things did you find when you

researched " hunger

> > autism "

> > > I found it intresting... Ann

> > > http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-

26-

> > 02.htm

> > > http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?

> > itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

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[Guest guest]

Yes, if I had a child who had a miraculous behavior change while avoiding a

food, I would avoid it. Conversely, I have read of children who started talking

when milk was withdrawn. When you have a child who has such a marked reaction

to avoiding a food, hard to argue against that.

What I am particularly objecting to is the universal exclusion, in the absence

of any evidence, of good food. That's ridiculous.

[ ] Re: help...food addict living in

my

> > house

> > >

> > >

> > > What intresting things did you find when you

researched " hunger

> > autism "

> > > I found it intresting... Ann

> > > http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-

26-

> > 02.htm

> > > http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?

> > itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

> > >

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[Guest guest]

>

> My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long. Every

> minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else he

> wants to eat.

This was my son when he was eating foods [or supplements] not

tolerated, and when he had a yeast overgrowth issue.

>>he craves any and everything. most of the time he pulls fruits out

of the fridge, like strawberries, watermelon, apples and grapes.

My son tolerated apples with No-Fenol enzyme. He did not tolerate the

other fruits you list here, even with enzymes.

All these fruits also feed yeast.

>>he

does seem to react to foods that have additives in them though.

This is a good indicator of phenol intolerance, and the fruits you

indicated above, are all high phenol. Try giving them with No-Fenol

enzyme, see if that helps

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

Yes, but since the gut is the source for 70% of the immune system, it is very

important to heal the gut. Sometimes means the temporary removal of some foods.

Alergies aren't the only reason to remove something. If, for example, a kid has

leaky gut or nodual hyperplasia, removing di and polysacarides can support

healing (as in Specific Carbohydrate Diet). Some kids have a terrible reaction

to phenols, and so removing most fruit is a good idea for them. The point I

think is to think about the needs of each indivdual child and respond correctly

to those needs.

Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

Our little one did not test allergic, to anything. As a general rule, unless

there are big allergies to something, I am not in favor of removing whole

nutritious food groups, at all. Even with a bonafide allergy, I am in favor of

removing the offending substance only for a short time, while working on the

allergy, then putting it back, straightway.

Our Dan! said remove milk, even in the absence of an allergy. We did for three

weeks and she lost language and if there was ever a sicker looking kid, I don't

want to see them, so we put it back. Then the dan! said " no fruit, except

pears. " Come on, fruit is a wonderful source of vitamins/minerals/fiber and

antioxidants!

I have heard a lot of people say when they removed the things their child was

allergic to they developed allergies to other foods, the allergies just shifted

to other things. Better to shore up the immune system to handle what the body

needs, IMHO.

[ ] Re: help...food addict living in my house

What intresting things did you find when you researched " hunger autism "

I found it intresting... Ann

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/Schafer6-26-02.htm

http://www.psychiatry24x7.com/bgdisplay.jhtml?itemname=pdc_nov2005_05

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

thanks dana. i tried the nofenol enzymes and they made my son

crazy, hyper and doing this horrible vocal stim all day while

pushing on his face!

> >

> > My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long.

Every

> > minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else

he

> > wants to eat.

>

>

> This was my son when he was eating foods [or supplements] not

> tolerated, and when he had a yeast overgrowth issue.

>

>

> >>he craves any and everything. most of the time he pulls fruits

out

> of the fridge, like strawberries, watermelon, apples and grapes.

>

>

> My son tolerated apples with No-Fenol enzyme. He did not tolerate

the

> other fruits you list here, even with enzymes.

>

> All these fruits also feed yeast.

>

>

> >>he

> does seem to react to foods that have additives in them though.

>

>

> This is a good indicator of phenol intolerance, and the fruits you

> indicated above, are all high phenol. Try giving them with No-

Fenol

> enzyme, see if that helps

>

> http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>

> http://www.houstonni.com/

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Being ravenous can also be a sign of parasites.

> >

> > My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long.

Every

> > minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else

he

> > wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he still

> > manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining for

more

> > food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> > ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast

protocol

> > along with vitamins and chelation.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

HI, I ALSO HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH MY SON.... WE THEN STARTED THE SPECIFIC

CARBOHYDRATE DIET SINCE LAST JUNE AND HIS PROBLEMS ARE NOW UNDER CONTROL WITH

CONSTANT EATING....HE HAS ALSO LOST WEIGHT.....I FEEL THIS DIET HAS HELPED HIM

WITH ALL ISSUES......HOPE THIS HELPS.....

CORINNE

[ ] Re: help...food addict living in my house

Being ravenous can also be a sign of parasites.

> >

> > My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long.

Every

> > minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something else

he

> > wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he still

> > manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining for

more

> > food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> > ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast

protocol

> > along with vitamins and chelation.

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

julia...interesting. he did have parasites awhile back (at least we

suspected he did). maybe i should treat him for that again. i think

i still have the medicine!

> > >

> > > My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day long.

> Every

> > > minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something

else

> he

> > > wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he

still

> > > manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining

for

> more

> > > food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> > > ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast

> protocol

> > > along with vitamins and chelation.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

corinne...sounds interesting. the only thing is that i don't want

my son to lose weight, he's not heavy at all. i don't know where

all that food is going to! i'll look into that diet, i've heard

others mention it in the past!

> > >

> > > My son will not stop begging for food. He eats all day

long.

> Every

> > > minute (literally!!!!!) he comes over to me with something

else

> he

> > > wants to eat. I have been locking the fridge today and he

still

> > > manages to drive me crazy by constantly begging and whining

for

> more

> > > food. I just don't know what to do. It's driving me CRAZY!

> > > ~!!!!!!!!! Can you hear the desperation? He is on a yeast

> protocol

> > > along with vitamins and chelation.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

>

> thanks dana. i tried the nofenol enzymes and they made my son

> crazy, hyper and doing this horrible vocal stim all day while

> pushing on his face!

Then you might want to experiment with removing foods and/or epsom

salt baths until such time as his gut is healed sufficiently to try

something else.

Dana