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I recall some time back, a group member using LDN cited Alpha lipoic acid as

aiding fatigue.

I'm sorry I can't recall the exact circumstances of it's successful use or how

long ago it was posted - and

unfortunately, a success story is yet to be submitted to Case Health in support

of it's benefit for fatigue so

I haven't any anecdotal evidence to share.

A search of the group posts may locate or ... (Aletha, is there a chance

you saved the post?)

As always, check with your doctor first to ensure there are no personal

extenuating health circumstances or

possible conflicts.

Kind regards,

Cris

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1i. Re: NEWBIE LDN update

Posted by: " croma_clear1 " jlcandrb@... croma_clear1

Date: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:34 am ((PST))

> The problem I am having is I am so tired. I have been having 3 hour

> naps the past 4 days which is very unlike me and getting 9 hours sleep

> at night.

>

> My symptoms are not/were not too severe taking LDN to halt any further

> progression. I hope this need to nap ends soon after xmas and I am back

> to work full time I wont be able to nap every day. Getting my LDN

> compounded by a pharmacy on the approved list.

Hello mclea1972

Is your fatigue worse at the moment than before LDN commenced ?

I ask as I too am very fatigued..taking the long naps to get through

just as you at the moment.

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Hi Cris,

copied and pasted this for you -

Combat chronic fatigue syndrome.

Because it plays a part in cellular energy production, some

nutritionally oriented physicians recommend alpha-lipoic acid for the

treatment of chronic fatigue syndrome.

While evidence of its effectiveness for this condition is anecdotal,

alpha-lipoic acid is a broad-spectrum antioxidant and immune system

booster. This means it may be able to play a valuable role in

increasing energy and maintaining overall health in chronic fatigue

syndrome sufferers.

For general antioxidant protection: Take 100 mg twice a day.

the site -

http://tinyurl.com/3xwj43

Alana

>

> I recall some time back, a group member using LDN cited Alpha

lipoic acid as aiding fatigue.

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In response to my earlier post, I received the following collection of posts and

information regarding

FATIGUE:

'Thank you' Aletha, Greg, and Alana for your assistance in gathering.

Just a thought ... whilst fatigue is a symptom that's been cited many times by

new group members, my

understanding is the fatique they'd experienced had been unrelenting.

To me, this is a different symptom to the one you described earlier - of

alternating waves of fatigue/energy

(peaks and troughs) over very short periods of time (within hours) - so please

discuss this with their doctor.

Kind regards,

Cris

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j-silverstein@... judestein Jul 24, 2007 11:20 am

Post No. 51869 Re: Supplements

.... whether that's wise I don't know. I find alpha lipoic acid helps a lot with

the MS fatigue - it's really a

lifesaver for me. I'm also ... conventional geek - suggested B-1, B-12, alpha

lipolic acid to get rid of the

tingling sensations. I ... judith

From: kathy lintzenich

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:52 AM

Subject: Re:Fatigue

I have mentioned this before but besides b-12 in the form of sublingual

methylcobalamin- NADH 7.5mg ,

acetyl-l-carnitine and alpha lipoic acid on an empty stomach should increase

energy alot. These items can be

purchased through Swanson Vitamins mail order catalog. Otherwise they can be

very expensive but usually work

From: Landau

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:12 AM

Subject: Fatigue

Glitter--what a wonderful name, whether or not it's real!--I'm curious as to why

your husband is taking 1.5 mg

for MS. Dr. Bihari does not believe anything under 3 mg is effective. Have you

seen the website? If you

haven't, it's an important source of information: www.low dose naltrexone.org.

As for fatigue... I've found that to be the hardest one to deal with. I've been

taking B12 shots since

December--every few weeks and now once a month--and I've found them to be more

effective than anything else

I've tried. Since the Fall, I've also been taking cod liver oil (Carlson's

Norwegian Cod Liver

Oil--lemon-flavored--so not truly disgusting) and blueberry softgels. (I order

both from Dr. Mercola's

website, on the advice of Tom.) It's a distinct possibility that the cod liver

oil has also caused my energy

level to improve. I've also had a short spurts of improvement when I've taken

Bragg's apple cider vinegar.

Does your husband get enough sleep? That's crucial--at least for me.

From: judith

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:08 PM

Subject: r-lipoic acid

I've been taking LDN for 6 months. Don't feel any difference, but plan to stick

with it in hopes of the

long-term benefits. But one thing I am getting immediate benefits from is

r-lipoic acid supplements. (The " r "

in " r-lipoic " is the r isomer of alpha lipoic acid (ALA).) They really help with

the fatigue & cognitive

issues. I'm taking other supplements, but the effect of the lipoic acid has been

dramatic & obvious to my

family, friends & co-workers. Is anyone else getting benefits from alpha lipoic

acid? I don't know whether it

will help with the long term course of the disease, but there is research

supporting possible real benefits

(though intravenous may be more effective than oral).

For instance:

Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 2007 Mar 2;354(1):259-64. Epub 2007 Jan 3.

Lipoic acid stimulates cAMP production in T lymphocytes and NK cells.

Schillace RV, Pisenti N, Pattamanuch N, Galligan S, Marracci GH, Bourdette DN,

Carr DW

Mult Scler. 2005 Apr;11(2):159-65.

Lipoic acid in multiple sclerosis: a pilot study.

Yadav V, Marracci G, Lovera J, Woodward W, Bogardus K, Marquardt W, Shinto L,

C, Bourdette D.

J Neurosci Res. 2004 Nov 1;78(3):362-70.

Alpha lipoic acid inhibits human T-cell migration: implications for multiple

sclerosis.

Marracci GH, McKeon GP, Marquardt WE, Winter RW, Riscoe MK, Bourdette DN.

J Neuroimmunol. 2002 Oct;131(1-2):104-14.

Alpha lipoic acid inhibits T cell migration into the spinal cord and suppresses

and treats experimental

autoimmune encephalomyelitis.

Marracci GH, RE, McKeon GP, Bourdette DN.

Department of Neurology, Oregon Health and Science University, Portland, OR

97201, USA.

From: sfrobink@...

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:44 PM

Subject: Re: To CONTINUE LDN or NOT????

Hi -- I am new to this discussion of LDN, but I just read the question about

needing energy. Whenever I take

super malic, I get immediate energy. It's in the healthfood stores. It's a combo

of malic acid from apples and

magnesium. It's supposed to fuel the ATP energy cycle in our cells. It comes in

200mg tablets, I believe.

Start slowly, and earlier in the day. I took my first one at night and didn't

sleep at all, I had so much

energy! It also moved me from the slow lane of the pool to the fast one!

Robin

Re: NEWBIE LDN update - FATIGUE

Posted by: " sea_gal777 " sea_gal777@... sea_gal777

Date: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:25 am ((PST))

Hi Cris,

copied and pasted this for you -

Combat chronic fatigue syndrome.

Because it plays a part in cellular energy production, some

nutritionally oriented physicians recommend alpha-lipoic acid for the

treatment of chronic fatigue syndrome.

While evidence of its effectiveness for this condition is anecdotal,

alpha-lipoic acid is a broad-spectrum antioxidant and immune system

booster. This means it may be able to play a valuable role in

increasing energy and maintaining overall health in chronic fatigue

syndrome sufferers.

For general antioxidant protection: Take 100 mg twice a day.

the site - http://tinyurl.com/3xwj43

Here is another one -

Help for fatigue I have used ALA on and off for a year now and it

makes me feel stronger and better. About 5 months ago I started to

use ALA (200mg) together with L-Carnitine (200mg), I'm not 100% sure

about the spelling since english isn't my mothertongue, once a day on

a empty stomac. After using it for a week I felt stronger and I

haven't suffered from fatigue once since that! Prior to that I

suffered almost daily from fatigue and it has been the most severe

symptom I have had for the last 15 years. Please note that ALA alone

isn't that effective but it is the combination of the two that makes

all the difference. If you suffer from fatigue I would advise you to

try this since it isn't harmful (except for the wallet..) in anyway

the link- http://tinyurl.com/3drzwx

Have you ever tried glutamine powder for the fatigue?

Green tea extract?

Alana

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