Re: Sleep issues/ awake for over 24 hours!/

May 21, 2006

Thanks for the suggestions .

He's already GF/CF. But allergic to eggs and meat.

He does seem to tolerate bacon and its one of his

favorites.

He drinks Pear Juice all day. I can only find it in

Gerber name brand. Is this acceptable to use?

I started him on Candex this morning.

He's already so skinny. You can literaly count each

rib bone.

We gave Nystatin before, but didnt seem to help the

sleep issue or the yeast issue for that matter.

Lori

--- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> This is yeast.

>

> No sugar. No wheat. No dairy. No carbohydrates.

>

> Food suggestions:

>

> eggs, bacon, pear juice

> veal, squash, onion

> broccoli, asparagus, pear

>

> Candex following instructions ~precisely~

>

> Nystatin, if the doctor will prescribe it.

>

> --- ldbender <ldbender@...> wrote:

>

> > My three year old will not/can not go to sleep

> with

> > out Rx medication.

> > We've been using Clonidine for the past year and a

> > half at night.

> > I want so badly to stop using it.

> > Our DAN doctor suggested we use melatonin. It

> didnt

> > even make him yawn.

> > ( we gave him to him for several weeks)

> > Then he said we should try GABA. No luck with

> that

> > either.

> > Several months ago I put my son to bed with no

> > Clonidine. Since he

> > had been up that morning at 5:30am I thought for

> > sure that he would be

> > tired by 9:00pm that night especially with no nap.

>

> > He did not go to

> > sleep until 8:00am the next morning and then onlyy

> > slept 5 hours.

> > It's rare to see him yawn or even rub his eyes

> after

> > he's been awake

> > for hours and hours.

> > I suspect this is yeast related. He's not

> responding

> > well to yeast

> > treatments. I have not tried viral supps yet.

> >

> > Suggestions would be most appreciated!

> >

> > Thanks

> > Lori

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

May 21, 2006

We give 4 oz. pear juice and one

pear per day.

We use water to drink only, besides the

small amount of pear juice.

Does Gerber have sugar added?

We use Ceres pear juice, no sugar

added, available from Whole Foods.

We are very strick with the diet

and have some luck controlling yeast.

Even peas, a starch, are a violation

for our 8 year old, 50 lbs. son.

--- Lori Bender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions .

>

> He's already GF/CF. But allergic to eggs and meat.

> He does seem to tolerate bacon and its one of his

> favorites.

> He drinks Pear Juice all day. I can only find it in

> Gerber name brand. Is this acceptable to use?

> I started him on Candex this morning.

> He's already so skinny. You can literaly count each

> rib bone.

> We gave Nystatin before, but didnt seem to help the

> sleep issue or the yeast issue for that matter.

>

> Lori

>

> --- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

>

> > This is yeast.

> >

> > No sugar. No wheat. No dairy. No carbohydrates.

> >

> > Food suggestions:

> >

> > eggs, bacon, pear juice

> > veal, squash, onion

> > broccoli, asparagus, pear

> >

> > Candex following instructions ~precisely~

> >

> > Nystatin, if the doctor will prescribe it.

> >

> > --- ldbender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> >

> > > My three year old will not/can not go to sleep

> > with

> > > out Rx medication.

> > > We've been using Clonidine for the past year and

> a

> > > half at night.

> > > I want so badly to stop using it.

> > > Our DAN doctor suggested we use melatonin. It

> > didnt

> > > even make him yawn.

> > > ( we gave him to him for several weeks)

> > > Then he said we should try GABA. No luck with

> > that

> > > either.

> > > Several months ago I put my son to bed with no

> > > Clonidine. Since he

> > > had been up that morning at 5:30am I thought for

> > > sure that he would be

> > > tired by 9:00pm that night especially with no

> nap.

> >

> > > He did not go to

> > > sleep until 8:00am the next morning and then

> onlyy

> > > slept 5 hours.

> > > It's rare to see him yawn or even rub his eyes

> > after

> > > he's been awake

> > > for hours and hours.

> > > I suspect this is yeast related. He's not

> > responding

> > > well to yeast

> > > treatments. I have not tried viral supps yet.

> > >

> > > Suggestions would be most appreciated!

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Lori

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

May 21, 2006

Gerber Pear Juice.

Ingredients: Pear juice from concentrate (water for

reconstitution, pear juice concentrate) and ascorbic

acid (vitamin C)

4oz contain 14g carbohydrate and 12g sugar.

Are these acceptable amounts of sugar and carbs?

We tried the water only thing for a while. He

wouldn't drink anymore than about 6oz all day. ( we

did this for about a week) His lips got so dry. Even

tried water with stevia. He didn't like it.

I usually have to force him to drink water. Saying to

him, " take a drink " . But then he only takes a sip or

two.

How can I trick him into drinking more water?

--- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> We give 4 oz. pear juice and one

> pear per day.

>

> We use water to drink only, besides the

> small amount of pear juice.

>

> Does Gerber have sugar added?

>

> We use Ceres pear juice, no sugar

> added, available from Whole Foods.

>

> We are very strick with the diet

> and have some luck controlling yeast.

> Even peas, a starch, are a violation

> for our 8 year old, 50 lbs. son.

>

> --- Lori Bender <ldbender@...> wrote:

>

> > Thanks for the suggestions .

> >

> > He's already GF/CF. But allergic to eggs and

> meat.

> > He does seem to tolerate bacon and its one of his

> > favorites.

> > He drinks Pear Juice all day. I can only find it

> in

> > Gerber name brand. Is this acceptable to use?

> > I started him on Candex this morning.

> > He's already so skinny. You can literaly count

> each

> > rib bone.

> > We gave Nystatin before, but didnt seem to help

> the

> > sleep issue or the yeast issue for that matter.

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > --- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> >

> > > This is yeast.

> > >

> > > No sugar. No wheat. No dairy. No carbohydrates.

> > >

> > > Food suggestions:

> > >

> > > eggs, bacon, pear juice

> > > veal, squash, onion

> > > broccoli, asparagus, pear

> > >

> > > Candex following instructions ~precisely~

> > >

> > > Nystatin, if the doctor will prescribe it.

> > >

> > > --- ldbender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > My three year old will not/can not go to sleep

> > > with

> > > > out Rx medication.

> > > > We've been using Clonidine for the past year

> and

> > a

> > > > half at night.

> > > > I want so badly to stop using it.

> > > > Our DAN doctor suggested we use melatonin. It

> > > didnt

> > > > even make him yawn.

> > > > ( we gave him to him for several weeks)

> > > > Then he said we should try GABA. No luck with

> > > that

> > > > either.

> > > > Several months ago I put my son to bed with no

> > > > Clonidine. Since he

> > > > had been up that morning at 5:30am I thought

> for

> > > > sure that he would be

> > > > tired by 9:00pm that night especially with no

> > nap.

> > >

> > > > He did not go to

> > > > sleep until 8:00am the next morning and then

> > onlyy

> > > > slept 5 hours.

> > > > It's rare to see him yawn or even rub his eyes

> > > after

> > > > he's been awake

> > > > for hours and hours.

> > > > I suspect this is yeast related. He's not

> > > responding

> > > > well to yeast

> > > > treatments. I have not tried viral supps yet.

>

> > > >

> > > > Suggestions would be most appreciated!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

May 21, 2006

Lori, we just kept watering the juice down a little bit each day till she got to

the point where there was mostly water. If you do it gradually you may get to

the point where it is just a little juice.

Re: [ ] Sleep issues/ awake for over 24 hours!/

Gerber Pear Juice.

Ingredients: Pear juice from concentrate (water for

reconstitution, pear juice concentrate) and ascorbic

acid (vitamin C)

4oz contain 14g carbohydrate and 12g sugar.

Are these acceptable amounts of sugar and carbs?

We tried the water only thing for a while. He

wouldn't drink anymore than about 6oz all day. ( we

did this for about a week) His lips got so dry. Even

tried water with stevia. He didn't like it.

I usually have to force him to drink water. Saying to

him, " take a drink " . But then he only takes a sip or

two.

How can I trick him into drinking more water?

--- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> We give 4 oz. pear juice and one

> pear per day.

>

> We use water to drink only, besides the

> small amount of pear juice.

>

> Does Gerber have sugar added?

>

> We use Ceres pear juice, no sugar

> added, available from Whole Foods.

>

> We are very strick with the diet

> and have some luck controlling yeast.

> Even peas, a starch, are a violation

> for our 8 year old, 50 lbs. son.

>

> --- Lori Bender <ldbender@...> wrote:

>

> > Thanks for the suggestions .

> >

> > He's already GF/CF. But allergic to eggs and

> meat.

> > He does seem to tolerate bacon and its one of his

> > favorites.

> > He drinks Pear Juice all day. I can only find it

> in

> > Gerber name brand. Is this acceptable to use?

> > I started him on Candex this morning.

> > He's already so skinny. You can literaly count

> each

> > rib bone.

> > We gave Nystatin before, but didnt seem to help

> the

> > sleep issue or the yeast issue for that matter.

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > --- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> >

> > > This is yeast.

> > >

> > > No sugar. No wheat. No dairy. No carbohydrates.

> > >

> > > Food suggestions:

> > >

> > > eggs, bacon, pear juice

> > > veal, squash, onion

> > > broccoli, asparagus, pear

> > >

> > > Candex following instructions ~precisely~

> > >

> > > Nystatin, if the doctor will prescribe it.

> > >

> > > --- ldbender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > My three year old will not/can not go to sleep

> > > with

> > > > out Rx medication.

> > > > We've been using Clonidine for the past year

> and

> > a

> > > > half at night.

> > > > I want so badly to stop using it.

> > > > Our DAN doctor suggested we use melatonin. It

> > > didnt

> > > > even make him yawn.

> > > > ( we gave him to him for several weeks)

> > > > Then he said we should try GABA. No luck with

> > > that

> > > > either.

> > > > Several months ago I put my son to bed with no

> > > > Clonidine. Since he

> > > > had been up that morning at 5:30am I thought

> for

> > > > sure that he would be

> > > > tired by 9:00pm that night especially with no

> > nap.

> > >

> > > > He did not go to

> > > > sleep until 8:00am the next morning and then

> > onlyy

> > > > slept 5 hours.

> > > > It's rare to see him yawn or even rub his eyes

> > > after

> > > > he's been awake

> > > > for hours and hours.

> > > > I suspect this is yeast related. He's not

> > > responding

> > > > well to yeast

> > > > treatments. I have not tried viral supps yet.

>

> > > >

> > > > Suggestions would be most appreciated!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

May 22, 2006

The question is " who's the boss? "

If you think water is necessary for

his health, should you permit him

to determine his dietary intake?

If water is the only thing available,

he will ultimately drink it. We all

have habits. Habits can be broken.

New habits can be formed.

--- Lori Bender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> Gerber Pear Juice.

> Ingredients: Pear juice from concentrate (water for

> reconstitution, pear juice concentrate) and ascorbic

> acid (vitamin C)

> 4oz contain 14g carbohydrate and 12g sugar.

> Are these acceptable amounts of sugar and carbs?

>

> We tried the water only thing for a while. He

> wouldn't drink anymore than about 6oz all day. ( we

> did this for about a week) His lips got so dry.

> Even

> tried water with stevia. He didn't like it.

> I usually have to force him to drink water. Saying

> to

> him, " take a drink " . But then he only takes a sip

> or

> two.

> How can I trick him into drinking more water?

>

> --- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

>

> > We give 4 oz. pear juice and one

> > pear per day.

> >

> > We use water to drink only, besides the

> > small amount of pear juice.

> >

> > Does Gerber have sugar added?

> >

> > We use Ceres pear juice, no sugar

> > added, available from Whole Foods.

> >

> > We are very strick with the diet

> > and have some luck controlling yeast.

> > Even peas, a starch, are a violation

> > for our 8 year old, 50 lbs. son.

> >

> > --- Lori Bender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Thanks for the suggestions .

> > >

> > > He's already GF/CF. But allergic to eggs and

> > meat.

> > > He does seem to tolerate bacon and its one of

> his

> > > favorites.

> > > He drinks Pear Juice all day. I can only find it

> > in

> > > Gerber name brand. Is this acceptable to use?

>

> > > I started him on Candex this morning.

> > > He's already so skinny. You can literaly count

> > each

> > > rib bone.

> > > We gave Nystatin before, but didnt seem to help

> > the

> > > sleep issue or the yeast issue for that matter.

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> > > --- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > This is yeast.

> > > >

> > > > No sugar. No wheat. No dairy. No

> carbohydrates.

> > > >

> > > > Food suggestions:

> > > >

> > > > eggs, bacon, pear juice

> > > > veal, squash, onion

> > > > broccoli, asparagus, pear

> > > >

> > > > Candex following instructions ~precisely~

> > > >

> > > > Nystatin, if the doctor will prescribe it.

> > > >

> > > > --- ldbender <ldbender@...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > My three year old will not/can not go to

> sleep

> > > > with

> > > > > out Rx medication.

> > > > > We've been using Clonidine for the past year

> > and

> > > a

> > > > > half at night.

> > > > > I want so badly to stop using it.

> > > > > Our DAN doctor suggested we use melatonin.

> It

> > > > didnt

> > > > > even make him yawn.

> > > > > ( we gave him to him for several weeks)

> > > > > Then he said we should try GABA. No luck

> with

> > > > that

> > > > > either.

> > > > > Several months ago I put my son to bed with

> no

> > > > > Clonidine. Since he

> > > > > had been up that morning at 5:30am I thought

> > for

> > > > > sure that he would be

> > > > > tired by 9:00pm that night especially with

> no

> > > nap.

> > > >

> > > > > He did not go to

> > > > > sleep until 8:00am the next morning and then

> > > onlyy

> > > > > slept 5 hours.

> > > > > It's rare to see him yawn or even rub his

> eyes

> > > > after

> > > > > he's been awake

> > > > > for hours and hours.

> > > > > I suspect this is yeast related. He's not

> > > > responding

> > > > > well to yeast

> > > > > treatments. I have not tried viral supps

> yet.

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Suggestions would be most appreciated!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Lori

> > > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > >

May 22, 2006

> How can I trick him into drinking more water?

>

Offer pure water often- set the timer on the stove for every 1/2 an

hour if you need too.

I would get some locally grown honey and put a little in some water and

give with an eydropper - this is how I get my son to take his

supplements

May 22, 2006

Digestive enzymes may help as may EFAs. Avocados have high quality fat. Can

you get him to eat some of them? You may want to read " Children With Starving

Brains " by McCandless (a doctor and grandmother of a child w/ASD).

S S

Thanks for the suggestions .

He's already GF/CF. But allergic to eggs and meat.

He does seem to tolerate bacon and its one of his

favorites.

He drinks Pear Juice all day. I can only find it in

Gerber name brand. Is this acceptable to use?

I started him on Candex this morning.

He's already so skinny. You can literaly count each

rib bone.

We gave Nystatin before, but didnt seem to help the

sleep issue or the yeast issue for that matter.

Lori

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May 22, 2006

Raw avocado's? I doubt he would eat them but I could

try one and see.

The book sounds interresting. I'll look into it.

Thanks

Lori

--- Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...>

wrote:

>

> Digestive enzymes may help as may EFAs. Avocados

> have high quality fat. Can you get him to eat some

> of them? You may want to read " Children With

> Starving Brains " by McCandless (a doctor

> and grandmother of a child w/ASD).

> S S

>

> Thanks for the suggestions .

>

> He's already GF/CF. But allergic to eggs and

> meat.

> He does seem to tolerate bacon and its one of

> his

> favorites.

> He drinks Pear Juice all day. I can only find it

> in

> Gerber name brand. Is this acceptable to use?

>

> I started him on Candex this morning.

> He's already so skinny. You can literaly count

> each

> rib bone.

> We gave Nystatin before, but didnt seem to help

> the

> sleep issue or the yeast issue for that matter.

>

> Lori

>

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> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

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May 22, 2006

Yes, raw. I would put the avocado on something (rice, veg, bread, cracker,

potato, etc) rather than offer it straight.

S S

Raw avocado's? I doubt he would eat them but I could

try one and see.

The book sounds interresting. I'll look into it.

Thanks

Lori

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