advanced growth in child = high testosterone???

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In a message dated 19/05/2006 20:38:48 GMT Daylight Time,

a_bit_solutions@... writes:

Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high testosterone? I

have not had his level tested. Any insight into the situation would be

greatly appreciated! Thanks!

>>>it is common with chromosome anomoly 47XYY - my son has that but he is

not over big

Mandi in UK

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My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid. (Parents are not).

He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz. By the time he was one, he weighed 30

pounds. He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost all of his teeth

prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2. He appeared to have all

of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is quite tall and weighs

70 pounds. He is very strong. People often think he is 9 year old.

His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference range of 65-278.

I also have an NT son who is not a big kid - actually is small. So, I

don't think this is simply genetic. My husband was not a big kid nor

was I.

Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high testosterone? I

have not had his level tested. Any insight into the situation would be

greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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I am resending a previous email:

Lots if not most autistic kids have high testosterone -- known as precocious

puberty. A mainstream doctor, Dr. Geier believes that stopping of testosterone

may be the key to solving the entire ASD problem. So how to lower testosterone?

-- use Lupron which is very controversial on these sites.

I believe you should ate least have your child tested for high testosterone.

How do you go about doing it? If you suspect that your boy behaves (self play)

or appears more mature (hairy) than he should, then you need to tell your doctor

that you suspect " precocious puberty " . He will test for high testosterone and

other things.

Note that autistic kids do not really have precocious puberty but it may be

testosterone-mercury sheets bound. I know this sounds crazy but the best person

to listen to is the doctor himself -- use this pointer, scroll down and listen

to Dr. Geier:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

You will find this interesting -- VERY INTERESTING!

mom114425 <JLJukoski@...> wrote:

My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid. (Parents are not).

He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz. By the time he was one, he weighed 30

pounds. He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost all of his teeth

prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2. He appeared to have all

of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is quite tall and weighs

70 pounds. He is very strong. People often think he is 9 year old.

His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference range of 65-278.

I also have an NT son who is not a big kid - actually is small. So, I

don't think this is simply genetic. My husband was not a big kid nor

was I.

Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high testosterone? I

have not had his level tested. Any insight into the situation would be

greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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My son has high testosterone/precocious puberty

(mustache at age 7) yet he is not tall for his age.

He is 7 1/2 and his height ranges from 49 inches to

almost 51 inches depending on who's measuring him, the

time of day, and how cooperative he is. He's been

putting on an alarming amount of weight, though.

mother of Adam

--- Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

> I am resending a previous email:

>

> Lots if not most autistic kids have high

> testosterone -- known as precocious puberty. A

> mainstream doctor, Dr. Geier believes that stopping

> of testosterone may be the key to solving the entire

> ASD problem. So how to lower testosterone? -- use

> Lupron which is very controversial on these sites.

>

> I believe you should ate least have your child

> tested for high testosterone. How do you go about

> doing it? If you suspect that your boy behaves

> (self play) or appears more mature (hairy) than he

> should, then you need to tell your doctor that you

> suspect " precocious puberty " . He will test for high

> testosterone and other things.

>

> Note that autistic kids do not really have

> precocious puberty but it may be

> testosterone-mercury sheets bound. I know this

> sounds crazy but the best person to listen to is the

> doctor himself -- use this pointer, scroll down and

> listen to Dr. Geier:

>

>

> http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

>

>

> You will find this interesting -- VERY

> INTERESTING!

>

>

> mom114425 <JLJukoski@...> wrote:

> My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid.

> (Parents are not).

> He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz. By the time he was

> one, he weighed 30

> pounds. He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost

> all of his teeth

> prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2. He

> appeared to have all

> of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is

> quite tall and weighs

> 70 pounds. He is very strong. People often think

> he is 9 year old.

>

> His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference

> range of 65-278.

>

> I also have an NT son who is not a big kid -

> actually is small. So, I

> don't think this is simply genetic. My husband was

> not a big kid nor

> was I.

>

> Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high

> testosterone? I

> have not had his level tested. Any insight into the

> situation would be

> greatly appreciated! Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Did Dr. Geier say most kids with Autism have high testosterone?

Pam

> My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid. (Parents are

not).

> He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz. By the time he was one, he weighed

30

> pounds. He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost all of his

teeth

> prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2. He appeared to have

all

> of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is quite tall and

weighs

> 70 pounds. He is very strong. People often think he is 9 year

old.

>

> His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference range of 65-278.

>

> I also have an NT son who is not a big kid - actually is small.

So, I

> don't think this is simply genetic. My husband was not a big kid

nor

> was I.

>

> Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high

testosterone? I

> have not had his level tested. Any insight into the situation

would be

> greatly appreciated! Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

He may be particularly sensitive to the hormones in meat and dairy...

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My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid.  (Parents are not).  <BR>

He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz.  By the time he was one, he weighed 30 <BR>

pounds.  He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost all of his teeth <BR>

prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2.  He appeared to have all <BR>

of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is quite tall and weighs <BR>

70 pounds.  He is very strong.  People often think he is 9 year old.<BR>

<BR>

His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference range of 65-278.<BR>

<BR>

I also have an NT son who is not a big kid - actually is small.  So, I <BR>

don't think this is simply genetic.  My husband was not a big kid nor <BR>

was I.<BR>

<BR>

Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high testosterone?  I <BR>

have not had his level tested.  Any insight into the situation would be <BR>

greatly appreciated!  Thanks!<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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noaholiviaian <phaselow@...> wrote: Did Dr. Geier say most kids with

Autism have high testosterone?

Pam

> My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid. (Parents are

not).

> He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz. By the time he was one, he weighed

30

> pounds. He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost all of his

teeth

> prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2. He appeared to have

all

> of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is quite tall and

weighs

> 70 pounds. He is very strong. People often think he is 9 year

old.

>

> His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference range of 65-278.

>

> I also have an NT son who is not a big kid - actually is small.

So, I

> don't think this is simply genetic. My husband was not a big kid

nor

> was I.

>

> Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high

testosterone? I

> have not had his level tested. Any insight into the situation

would be

> greatly appreciated! Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

I would test for precocious puberty

Kalb <rcadiay@...> wrote: My son has high testosterone/precocious

puberty

(mustache at age 7) yet he is not tall for his age.

He is 7 1/2 and his height ranges from 49 inches to

almost 51 inches depending on who's measuring him, the

time of day, and how cooperative he is. He's been

putting on an alarming amount of weight, though.

mother of Adam

--- Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

> I am resending a previous email:

>

> Lots if not most autistic kids have high

> testosterone -- known as precocious puberty. A

> mainstream doctor, Dr. Geier believes that stopping

> of testosterone may be the key to solving the entire

> ASD problem. So how to lower testosterone? -- use

> Lupron which is very controversial on these sites.

>

> I believe you should ate least have your child

> tested for high testosterone. How do you go about

> doing it? If you suspect that your boy behaves

> (self play) or appears more mature (hairy) than he

> should, then you need to tell your doctor that you

> suspect " precocious puberty " . He will test for high

> testosterone and other things.

>

> Note that autistic kids do not really have

> precocious puberty but it may be

> testosterone-mercury sheets bound. I know this

> sounds crazy but the best person to listen to is the

> doctor himself -- use this pointer, scroll down and

> listen to Dr. Geier:

>

>

> http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

>

>

> You will find this interesting -- VERY

> INTERESTING!

>

>

> mom114425 <JLJukoski@...> wrote:

> My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid.

> (Parents are not).

> He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz. By the time he was

> one, he weighed 30

> pounds. He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost

> all of his teeth

> prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2. He

> appeared to have all

> of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is

> quite tall and weighs

> 70 pounds. He is very strong. People often think

> he is 9 year old.

>

> His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference

> range of 65-278.

>

> I also have an NT son who is not a big kid -

> actually is small. So, I

> don't think this is simply genetic. My husband was

> not a big kid nor

> was I.

>

> Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high

> testosterone? I

> have not had his level tested. Any insight into the

> situation would be

> greatly appreciated! Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

yes. Listen to Dr. Geier:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

Mum231ASD@... wrote:

In a message dated 19/05/2006 20:38:48 GMT Daylight Time,

a_bit_solutions@... writes:

Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high testosterone? I

have not had his level tested. Any insight into the situation would be

greatly appreciated! Thanks!

>>>it is common with chromosome anomoly 47XYY - my son has that but he is

not over big

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

My daughter tested very high in tesosterone... and had non detectable levels of

estrogen.

For a girl of 7 years, her testosterone levels should have been no higher than

6. She was at

19 ng/dcl.

She's undergoing the Geier protocol now, with Lupron...and doing well. VERY

well. After just

four sub-cutaneous (daily) doses, she began doing things we've been trying to

teach her

for five years...such as use a cup and fork... and she began paying attention to

us! And

obeying us when we ask her to do something!

She's now two months into the protocol. We had a bout of regression when we

added DMSA

chelation to the protocol... after which the Geiers took her off the chelator.

They saw that her

urinary co-porphyrin levels were very low and believe it may be due to the fact

that she's

been chelated for the last two years with TD-DMPS. They will continue to monitor

porphyrin

levels (as a sign of total body mercury burden) to make sure they don't go back

up.

Since going off the chelator, her attention span has increased again (on lupron

only), her

tactile defensiveness has decreased considerably and she's listening to us

again. Her gut

has improved dramatically (after five years of diarrhea... but that's also in

part due to SCD

diet, Valtrex, curcumin and coconut Kefir). But we DEFINITELY noticed gut

improvement with

the lupron.

Make no mistake. Testosterone is my daughter's sworn enemy. It took five years

of trying

everything else before we discovered what was holding her back.

The biomedical interventions we've tried before Lupron were still useful,

however. Her

mercury & lead are much lower, her mineral levels are darn close to normal

(after five years

of being askew)...and even her eyesight has improved by 60% since we've chelated

her. She

went from coke-bottle glasses to not really needing glasses. She's on a very

mild

prescription...and most of the time, she chooses NOT to wear them.

We'll know better if Lupron is her magic bullet in a number of months. Right

now, we have to

find a way to pay for intensive ABA and speech therapy. Biomed has drained our

financial

resources. But it has been worth every penny.

> > My 7 year old ASD son has always been a big kid. (Parents are

> not).

> > He was born at 9 lbs., 10 oz. By the time he was one, he weighed

> 30

> > pounds. He started losing teeth at age 4 and lost all of his

> teeth

> > prior to starting kindergarten at age 5 1/2. He appeared to have

> all

> > of his permanent teeth in before turning 7. He is quite tall and

> weighs

> > 70 pounds. He is very strong. People often think he is 9 year

> old.

> >

> > His recent IGF-I (Quest) is 65 with a reference range of 65-278.

> >

> > I also have an NT son who is not a big kid - actually is small.

> So, I

> > don't think this is simply genetic. My husband was not a big kid

> nor

> > was I.

> >

> > Is this advanced growth often seen in kids with high

> testosterone? I

> > have not had his level tested. Any insight into the situation

> would be

> > greatly appreciated! Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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