Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 So he doesn't end up with Alzheimer's? S S <p>why should i remove mercury from my son? i think that this is a fair <br> question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last three <br> years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the two <br> obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing and <br> his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, ages, <br> length of hair, and holiday decorations.<wbr>..but it does change...a few <br> months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the questions <br> he asks are centered around these limited interest but otherwise his <br> progress is going great. <br> we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were <br> buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the last <br> three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. <br> after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw no <br> pull whatsoever. im getting ready to do another hair test but the <br> thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what <br> symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help someone <br> with aspergers overcome their symptoms? would it help someone with <br> auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? i <br> think this is a valid question because its just too vague to say <br> chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. <br> i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. but i <br> feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is <br> chelation right for MY kid?'. if anyone has any insight into this it <br> would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on this <br> link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but with <br> these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. thanks! phil<br> <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d21YrmwaHkQ " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/wa\ tch?<wbr>v=d21YrmwaHkQ</a><br> <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENQvBHm2zlo " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/wa\ tch?<wbr>v=ENQvBHm2zlo</a><br> <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 As an adult with mercury poisoning that began as a child, I can honestly say..it does things to you. It really ruined my teen years, and my young adult hood. Only now in my 30's after having taken control over my own health have I begun to recover and to live. Mercury did interfer with my hearing and abililty to comprehend what people were saying to me. I often heard something totally different than what they said. I had my ears checked many times and passed hearing tests with no problem. Yet, still I had trouble comprehending spoken language. Write it down, and I was fine. I would equate this to a hearing processing disorder. My son also displayed some symptoms of this before his chelation began for metal poisoning. He no longer does this. Being fixated on things too is a problem associated with metals. At best, if this could help your child, why not? Chelation is a slow process that show changes a little at a time. So it can take a long time to recover. Not to mention the long term problems associated with untreated mercury exposure are terrible. It causes adrenal failure, thyroid failure, cancer, alzheimers and about a 1,000 other problems in the body. He may improve and at the least you will spare him from future health problems. > > why should i remove mercury from my son? i think that this is a fair > question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last three > years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the two > obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing and > his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, ages, > length of hair, and holiday decorations...but it does change...a few > months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the questions > he asks are centered around these limited interest but otherwise his > progress is going great. > we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were > buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the last > three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. > after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw no > pull whatsoever. im getting ready to do another hair test but the > thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what > symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help someone > with aspergers overcome their symptoms? would it help someone with > auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? i > think this is a valid question because its just too vague to say > chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. > i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. but i > feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is > chelation right for MY kid?'. if anyone has any insight into this it > would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on this > link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but with > these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. thanks! phil > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d21YrmwaHkQ > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENQvBHm2zlo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Or MS, or bipolar beginning in adolescence, or cancer or heart disease or ALS, etc, etc. That was enough to scare me. Even if the above weren't true, auditory processing problems make truly bright people appear not so bright and create tons of academic and social problems. Our little one's auditory processing problems were totally eliminated with chelation. RE: [ ] why chelate? So he doesn't end up with Alzheimer's? S S <p>why should i remove mercury from my son? i think that this is a fair <br> question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last three <br> years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the two <br> obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing and <br> his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, ages, <br> length of hair, and holiday decorations.<wbr>..but it does change...a few <br> months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the questions <br> he asks are centered around these limited interest but otherwise his <br> progress is going great. <br> we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were <br> buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the last <br> three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. <br> after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw no <br> pull whatsoever. im getting ready to do another hair test but the <br> thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what <br> symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help someone <br> with aspergers overcome their symptoms? would it help someone with <br> auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? i <br> think this is a valid question because its just too vague to say <br> chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. <br> i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. but i <br> feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is <br> chelation right for MY kid?'. if anyone has any insight into this it <br> would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on this <br> link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but with <br> these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. thanks! phil<br> <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d21YrmwaHkQ " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/wa\ tch?<wbr>v=d21YrmwaHkQ</a><br> <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENQvBHm2zlo " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/wa\ tch?<wbr>v=ENQvBHm2zlo</a><br> <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Phil, If I had to pick our two priorities with my son, the two concerns you mentioned - auditory processing and limited interest - would rank right up there for us. I am going to chelate this little bugger until he is clean, but I have a sneaking suspicion that perhaps we won't accomplish all in those areas with chelation alone. I suspect we will need some heavy duty antivirals/immune support to boot. Best, Anne > > <p>why should i remove mercury from my son? i think that this is a fair <br> > question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last three <br> > years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the two <br> > obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing and <br> > his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, ages, <br> > length of hair, and holiday decorations.<wbr>..but it does change...a few <br> > months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the questions <br> > he asks are centered around these limited interest but otherwise his <br> > progress is going great. <br> > we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were <br> > buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the last <br> > three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. <br> > after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw no <br> > pull whatsoever. im getting ready to do another hair test but the <br> > thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what <br> > symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help someone <br> > with aspergers overcome their symptoms? would it help someone with <br> > auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? i <br> > think this is a valid question because its just too vague to say <br> > chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. <br> > i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. but i <br> > feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is <br> > chelation right for MY kid?'. if anyone has any insight into this it <br> > would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on this <br> > link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but with <br> > these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. thanks! phil<br> > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=d21YrmwaHkQ " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? <wbr>v=d21YrmwaHkQ</a><br> > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=ENQvBHm2zlo " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? <wbr>v=ENQvBHm2zlo</a><br> > <br> > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 > > we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were > buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the last > three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. Chelation takes a LONG time. My son didn't even meet the counting rules, he's finished 92 rounds and he's not done. Almost three years now, and urine/fecal tests show mercury, lead, etc still coming out, and he's still, in some situations, not quite socially smooth. >but the > thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what > symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help someone > with aspergers overcome their symptoms? Chelation recovered my son from Asperger's. > would it help someone with > auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? Yes. > i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. You said earlier in your post that he's recovered in so many ways -- do you think those improvements were from something else? Did they happen before chelation began? bbut the question does become 'is > chelation right for MY kid?'. Right, it only seems to work for about 75% of autistic kids. The rest need to explore other avenues, including viruses. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Chelating and supplementing are an intensive process that take some of us toxics a lot of concentration (I'm not a routine person anyway and the brain fog means it can take me 3 days to figure out which supplements I need to reorder). I would suggest that you get your son the DDI hair elements test and Andy's two books (Amalgam Illness and How to Interpret the Hair Test). Honestly, once you read that, you may have a much better idea of where your son is at and if the committment to chelate more and supplement at those levels makes sense. In the meantime, you can continue to chelate and do some rounds (if you already have everything on hand) - while you are studying Andy's books. You may find many more clues there on where to go, where your son is at and how to figure out if it is helping or pulling metals. Best wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 , can I ask what form/dosage/times etc. you used to chelate your son? My son's primary autistic trait is auditory processing problems. He does not understand language readily at all. We've done chelation, but I'd like to know how you did it. Thank you! > > <p>why should i remove mercury from my son? i think that this is a fair <br> > question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last three <br> > years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the two <br> > obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing and <br> > his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, ages, <br> > length of hair, and holiday decorations.<wbr>..but it does change...a few <br> > months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the questions <br> > he asks are centered around these limited interest but otherwise his <br> > progress is going great. <br> > we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were <br> > buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the last <br> > three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. <br> > after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw no <br> > pull whatsoever. im getting ready to do another hair test but the <br> > thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what <br> > symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help someone <br> > with aspergers overcome their symptoms? would it help someone with <br> > auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? i <br> > think this is a valid question because its just too vague to say <br> > chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. <br> > i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. but i <br> > feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is <br> > chelation right for MY kid?'. if anyone has any insight into this it <br> > would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on this <br> > link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but with <br> > these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. thanks! phil<br> > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=d21YrmwaHkQ " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? <wbr>v=d21YrmwaHkQ</a><br> > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=ENQvBHm2zlo " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? <wbr>v=ENQvBHm2zlo</a><br> > <br> > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Hi there, Sorry to butt in but I was wondering how long you waited before you added in the ALA? Does it depend on how toxic your child is? Were only on round 2 of DMSA. My son is VERY toxic. Thanks, Darci > > > > <p>why should i remove mercury from my son? i think that this is > a fair <br> > > question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last > three <br> > > years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the > two <br> > > obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing > and <br> > > his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, ages, > <br> > > length of hair, and holiday decorations.<wbr>..but it does > change...a few <br> > > months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the > questions <br> > > he asks are centered around these limited interest but otherwise > his <br> > > progress is going great. <br> > > we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were > <br> > > buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the > last <br> > > three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. > <br> > > after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw > no <br> > > pull whatsoever. im getting ready to do another hair test but > the <br> > > thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what > <br> > > symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help > someone <br> > > with aspergers overcome their symptoms? would it help someone > with <br> > > auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? i > <br> > > think this is a valid question because its just too vague to say > <br> > > chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. <br> > > i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. > but i <br> > > feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is > <br> > > chelation right for MY kid?'. if anyone has any insight into > this it <br> > > would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on > this <br> > > link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but > with <br> > > these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. thanks! > phil<br> > > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=d21YrmwaHkQ " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? > <wbr>v=d21YrmwaHkQ</a><br> > > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=ENQvBHm2zlo " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? > <wbr>v=ENQvBHm2zlo</a><br> > > <br> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 As long as your child hasn't been recently exposed to mercury (amalgams removed, for example), you can begin ALA right away or just use ALA by itself. To make it more complicated, you should also not use ALA if your child is copper toxic (it will only increase the body load) or use it less frequently (every other weekend) if he has somewhat elevated copper. If so, start reducing copper levels with extra zinc, molybdenum and a low-copper diet. A Doctor's Data hair test can help rule out copper issues. It took only 3 months to get my son's copper down to the normal range with zinc/molybdenum. Also, make sure yeast is under control and/or you have a yeast protocol in place since ALA can stir up yeast in prone individuals. My 45 lb son can easily tolerate 20-25 mgs oral ALA every 3.5 hours. For some reason, I never had to work up to this higher dose. Lucky, I guess. I waited 9 months to add oral ALA to TD- DMSA. I was just nervous, and also didn't feel like arguing with my husband (harsh skeptic) to add another chelator. I wish I had done it much, much sooner because the increase in progress was remarkable. Butting in myself, Pam > > > > > > <p>why should i remove mercury from my son? i think that this > is > > a fair <br> > > > question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last > > three <br> > > > years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the > > two <br> > > > obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing > > and <br> > > > his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, > ages, > > <br> > > > length of hair, and holiday decorations.<wbr>..but it does > > change...a few <br> > > > months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the > > questions <br> > > > he asks are centered around these limited interest but > otherwise > > his <br> > > > progress is going great. <br> > > > we chelated him religously for six months, the first three > were > > <br> > > > buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the > > last <br> > > > three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler > proto. > > <br> > > > after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw > > no <br> > > > pull whatsoever. im getting ready to do another hair test but > > the <br> > > > thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what > > <br> > > > symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? would it help > > someone <br> > > > with aspergers overcome their symptoms? would it help someone > > with <br> > > > auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? > i > > <br> > > > think this is a valid question because its just too vague to > say > > <br> > > > chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. <br> > > > i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. > > but i <br> > > > feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is > > <br> > > > chelation right for MY kid?'. if anyone has any insight into > > this it <br> > > > would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on > > this <br> > > > link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but > > with <br> > > > these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. > thanks! > > phil<br> > > > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? > > v=d21YrmwaHkQ " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? > > <wbr>v=d21YrmwaHkQ</a><br> > > > <a href= " http://www.youtube.com/watch? > > v=ENQvBHm2zlo " >http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch? > > <wbr>v=ENQvBHm2zlo</a><br> > > > <br> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 > why should i remove mercury from my son? Chelation allowed my son to tolerate foods and supplements, and eliminated his tendency toward gut yeast issues. The other supplements I gave him were what recovered him. > his fixation with limited interest. This was viral for my kids. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 > > why should i remove mercury from my son? Because he can get PERMANENTLY better, where he won't immediately lose all progress if you stop the interventions. Because things that aren't improving with any interventions you do now can be made better. >i think that this is a fair > question. let me explain. my son has autism and for the last three > years i have succesfully recovered him in so many ways but the two > obvious areas i still have work on are his auditory processing and > his fixation with limited interest. right now its photos, ages, > length of hair, and holiday decorations...but it does change...a few > months ago it was highways and highways signs. most of the questions > he asks are centered around these limited interest but otherwise his > progress is going great. > we chelated him religously for six months, the first three were > buttar proto and the next three were cutler proto and in the last > three months weve been slacking while still on the cutler proto. > after three months of buttars proto we did a hair test and saw no > pull whatsoever. The hair test doens't tell you this, or in fact anything at that point in time. > im getting ready to do another hair test which will still tell you nothing. > but the > thing im wondering is this (and this is the big question) what > symptoms does chelation claim to help improve? All of them. From your description above he still has fairly serious problems. Chelate enough and you may well end up with a normal kid doing normal things and eating normal food. > would it help someone > with aspergers overcome their symptoms? Yes. >would it help someone with > auditory processing disorders help to overcome their symptoms? Yes. > i > think this is a valid question because its just too vague to say > chelation overcomes autistic symptoms. Chelation relieves ALL symptoms caused by heavy metal toxicity. ALL of them. For most " autistic " kids, they really just have mercury poisoning so chelation relieves ALL their symptoms. For those with somehting else going on chelation only releives symptoms due to heavy metals. > i honestly feel that i have not seen any gains with chelation. Which is possibly because you stopped at the wrong time and need to read all the discussion on the board about the " stall " at 6 months or so, and possibly because he has something other than heavy metals. How did the first hair test come out? Any progress in the first few months, or any problems appearing? > but i > feel i might if i keep at it. but the question does become 'is > chelation right for MY kid?'. That is the correct question. I'd answer it based on a lot of info you haven't provided, like response to first 3 months of chelation, actual hair test results, actual symptoms, history of what happened when in infancy. > if anyone has any insight into this it > would be appreciated. to see video footage of my son click on this > link. his speech has improved drastically since this video but with > these two videos you can see his strength and weakness. thanks! phil > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d21YrmwaHkQ > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENQvBHm2zlo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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