TD-DMPS or TD-ALA, or both???---Andy?

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In a message dated 13/09/2006 02:22:33 GMT Daylight Time,

readjoshua19@... writes:

I am looking at trying TD-DMPS and/or

TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am feeling

pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his childhood,

I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce will be

final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund his

treatments.

>>DMSA and ALA whether TD or not would require dosing every 3-4 hours.

Have you looked into NCD - liquid Zeolites - don't have to worry about

timing with those although more frequent dosing works well here.

group re NCD

_AutismNCD/_

(AutismNCD/)

HTH

Mandi in UK

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My son is 15, and I feel I really need to address his probable Mercury

toxicity as agressively as possible. He has become very EXTREMELY

prompt dependent and OCD to the point where I would love it if he

would go back to " just being Autistic. " He made progress on Andy's

DMSA protocol back in 2001, but his doc would not prescribe DMSA

anymore bc he felt he was not dumping Hg. I then went to ALA every

weekend. Unfortunately was not able to continue because my Hg

toxicity worsened since my fillings and teeth have been breaking, and

I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right times...even using

an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my way to get

then ALA and get sidetracked. I am looking at trying TD-DMPS and/or

TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am feeling

pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his childhood,

I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce will be

final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund his

treatments.

Thanks, Lindy

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--- Thanks Mandi...What is NCD, Liquid zeolites, and what does it do?

Is it also a chelator?? and where would I get it?

In , Mum231ASD@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 13/09/2006 02:22:33 GMT Daylight Time,

> readjoshua19@... writes:

>

> I am looking at trying TD-DMPS and/or

> TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am feeling

> pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his childhood,

> I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce will be

> final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund his

> treatments.

>

>

>

> >>DMSA and ALA whether TD or not would require dosing every 3-4 hours.

>

> Have you looked into NCD - liquid Zeolites - don't have to worry about

> timing with those although more frequent dosing works well here.

>

> group re NCD

>

> _AutismNCD/_

> (AutismNCD/)

>

> HTH

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

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>>He has become very EXTREMELY

> prompt dependent and OCD to the point where I would love it if he

> would go back to " just being Autistic. "

For my son, OCD meant virus issues.

Dana

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>

> My son is 15, and I feel I really need to address his probable Mercury

> toxicity as agressively as possible. He has become very EXTREMELY

> prompt dependent and OCD to the point where I would love it if he

> would go back to " just being Autistic. " He made progress on Andy's

> DMSA protocol back in 2001, but his doc would not prescribe DMSA

> anymore bc he felt he was not dumping Hg. I then went to ALA every

> weekend. Unfortunately was not able to continue because my Hg

> toxicity worsened since my fillings and teeth have been breaking, and

> I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right times...even using

> an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my way to get

> then ALA and get sidetracked.

Remember on the airplane when the stewardess advises us to put the

oxygen mask on the mother before the child. It's the same sort of

thing with mercury and chelation. We need to look after the mother so

that she can look after the kids and the rest of the family.

There are many interventions mentioned in Andy Cutler's 'Amalgam

Illness' book (links section) that will help a poisoned person even if

they can't afford to have all of their amalgams removed right away (no

chelation until all amalgams removed). Diet, supplements, and for

some people medications can make a poisoned person feel so much better

and function so much better.

I am speaking from experience. If I had not changed my diet, added

the right supplements, and started taking several medications I would

never have been able to find my way to the dentist's office to have my

amalgams removed. It is only after I started to feel better that I

could even start to plan to chelate other family members.

I am looking at trying TD-DMPS and/or

> TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions?

TD forms still must be dosed at the right time interval, carry a

higher risk of developing allergic reactions, and have not been

properly studied in that no one really knows how much chelator

actually gets into the body (and the amount would vary depending on

many factors).

I would use oral DMPS. (That is what I am using to chelate myself).

Oral DMPS can be dosed every 8 h and that makes it very easy to work

with - a person can sleep through the night, and remembering 3 times a

day is easy. After a certain amount of chelation with oral DMPS, when

you feel that you can remember to dose every 3 h, oral ALA can be

added. This is the strategy that I am using myself because I was

forgetful and couldn't wake up at night when I first started

chelation. After almost a year on very low dose oral DMPS I am at the

point where I CAN remember some things and I CAN wake up at night!!!!!

J

I am feeling

> pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his childhood,

> I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce will be

> final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund his

> treatments.

> Thanks, Lindy

>

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> I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right times...even

using

> an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my way to get

> then ALA and get sidetracked. I am looking at trying TD-DMPS and/or

> TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am feeling

> pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his

childhood,

> I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce will be

> final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund his

> treatments.

> Thanks, Lindy

Lindy,

I've had my troubles too with getting sidetracked and forgetting a

dose. Now I leave the ALA & DMSA right next to the alarm clock. I

take them out of the bottle and dose them and then re-set the alarm

clock. I haven't tried transdermals so I can't advise on those.

You also need to take care of yourself too. I think more clearly

and have more energy when I take my supplements. Unfortunately I

still have 2 fillings that need to come out before I can chelate

myself.

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Hi Lindy,

When the alarm clock goes off -- put it on SNOOZE -- shut the alarm OFF only

after you finished chelation. This may be annoying but wort it.

Also, many cell phones have alarms. We set ours for every 3 hours. This way,

we don't have to keep setting the alarm which can be a pain -- especially in the

middle of the night.

hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote:

> I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right times...even

using

> an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my way to get

> then ALA and get sidetracked. I am looking at trying TD-DMPS and/or

> TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am feeling

> pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his

childhood,

> I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce will be

> final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund his

> treatments.

> Thanks, Lindy

Lindy,

I've had my troubles too with getting sidetracked and forgetting a

dose. Now I leave the ALA & DMSA right next to the alarm clock. I

take them out of the bottle and dose them and then re-set the alarm

clock. I haven't tried transdermals so I can't advise on those.

You also need to take care of yourself too. I think more clearly

and have more energy when I take my supplements. Unfortunately I

still have 2 fillings that need to come out before I can chelate

myself.

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If I had not changed my diet, added

> the right supplements, and started taking several medications I would

> never have been able to find my way to the dentist's office to have my

> amalgams removed.

Seconding wholeheartedly.

Nell

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---Thanks

My problem...one of many... has begun this FUN habit of

MOVING things and putting them in places like behind the

microwave,under the bed, under the kitchen table, in the back corner

of the closet under " stuff " ...even in the neighbor's house...I had 2

pairs of glasses...guess what...I have NONE now. I have no idea where

to look, on the roof..? YES! I have found things on the roof...guess I

should look there.Ahh! The wonderful life of " AUTISM " ... I have some

of my 15 amalgams left, some have fallen out and the teeth broke

off...but I have gotten worse since this has been happenening, more

exposure, maybe? Sorry I am ADD too! Probably Aspergers

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Lindy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In , " hanjkyla " <kyleac@...> wrote:

>

>

> > I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right times...even

> using

> > an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my way to get

> > then ALA and get sidetracked. I am looking at trying TD-DMPS and/or

> > TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am feeling

> > pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his

> childhood,

> > I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce will be

> > final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund his

> > treatments.

> > Thanks, Lindy

>

> Lindy,

>

> I've had my troubles too with getting sidetracked and forgetting a

> dose. Now I leave the ALA & DMSA right next to the alarm clock. I

> take them out of the bottle and dose them and then re-set the alarm

> clock. I haven't tried transdermals so I can't advise on those.

> You also need to take care of yourself too. I think more clearly

> and have more energy when I take my supplements. Unfortunately I

> still have 2 fillings that need to come out before I can chelate

> myself.

>

>

>

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Lindy,

Get on some Vitamin C, and lots of it. I found this very helpful

until I was able to remove my fillings. The ones that are broken now

qualify to be replaced with composite under insurance if you have

some. You can get dmsa without that doc if you should decide to use

it again in the future.

> >

> >

> > > I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right times...even

> > using

> > > an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my way

to get

> > > then ALA and get sidetracked. I am looking at trying TD-DMPS

and/or

> > > TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am

feeling

> > > pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his

> > childhood,

> > > I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce

will be

> > > final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund

his

> > > treatments.

> > > Thanks, Lindy

> >

> > Lindy,

> >

> > I've had my troubles too with getting sidetracked and forgetting

a

> > dose. Now I leave the ALA & DMSA right next to the alarm

clock. I

> > take them out of the bottle and dose them and then re-set the

alarm

> > clock. I haven't tried transdermals so I can't advise on

those.

> > You also need to take care of yourself too. I think more

clearly

> > and have more energy when I take my supplements. Unfortunately

I

> > still have 2 fillings that need to come out before I can chelate

> > myself.

> >

> >

> >

>

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---Hi Jan, Thanks, I have some powdered C for ...I will start

taking some. As far as insurance...We are all on Medicaid since I am

single mom and can only work part time while is in school. Of

course their " dad " whom they have not seen since 1993, stopped paying

child support in 2001...anyway...Medicaid will ONLY pay for getting

all of my teeth pulled, nothing less. I am hoping this foundation

pulls through for me. I am so tired of tasting metal or blood, since

my gums bleed now... all the time. I can't even taste food anymore.

Actually the ones that broke or fell out, there is nothing left to

fill. The teeth broke off at or below the gum line, and will have to

be surgically removed.

Lindy

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, " Jan " <paxlforme@...> wrote:

>

> Lindy,

> Get on some Vitamin C, and lots of it. I found this very helpful

> until I was able to remove my fillings. The ones that are broken now

> qualify to be replaced with composite under insurance if you have

> some. You can get dmsa without that doc if you should decide to use

> it again in the future.

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > > I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right times...even

> > > using

> > > > an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my way

> to get

> > > > then ALA and get sidetracked. I am looking at trying TD-DMPS

> and/or

> > > > TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am

> feeling

> > > > pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his

> > > childhood,

> > > > I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My divorce

> will be

> > > > final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to fund

> his

> > > > treatments.

> > > > Thanks, Lindy

> > >

> > > Lindy,

> > >

> > > I've had my troubles too with getting sidetracked and forgetting

> a

> > > dose. Now I leave the ALA & DMSA right next to the alarm

> clock. I

> > > take them out of the bottle and dose them and then re-set the

> alarm

> > > clock. I haven't tried transdermals so I can't advise on

> those.

> > > You also need to take care of yourself too. I think more

> clearly

> > > and have more energy when I take my supplements. Unfortunately

> I

> > > still have 2 fillings that need to come out before I can chelate

> > > myself.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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I am really sorry to hear of your situation. I too am on Medicaid

and have been through the fight with those jerks. Part of the prob

is that they all have mercury in their teeth! I know they will not

refill any teeth with composite unless they are in the front line.

So your right about that, for molars its mercury of nothing. I tried

getting them to fill them with composite if I paid the difference

myself. The dentist wouldn't hear of it. Of course, this jerk told

me that I would lose all of my teeth if I had them removed.

Obviously not..here I am four months later with all of them IN!

Any reason that you cannot get dad to pay? You don't need to give an

answer here as it's personal, but if you get welfare for your son,

at least in my state, they go after the dad for child support no

matter where he is. At no cost to you. This might help your burden a

bit.

Do you mind if I ask which foundation? There have been warnings to

be weary of anyone online offering free amalgam removal programs.

I know I hate to say it, but I was at your place a year ago, and I

was going to get them all pulled. I figured dentures was healthier

than metal. I do hope you are able to find some help.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I simply CANNOT remember to dose him at the right

times...even

> > > > using

> > > > > an alarm clock did not work for me, I would forget on my

way

> > to get

> > > > > then ALA and get sidetracked. I am looking at trying TD-

DMPS

> > and/or

> > > > > TD-ALA for my son. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am

> > feeling

> > > > > pretty desparate at this point. has missed out on his

> > > > childhood,

> > > > > I don't want him to miss out on his entire life! My

divorce

> > will be

> > > > > final soon and I will be re-financing my house to try to

fund

> > his

> > > > > treatments.

> > > > > Thanks,

Lindy

> > > >

> > > > Lindy,

> > > >

> > > > I've had my troubles too with getting sidetracked and

forgetting

> > a

> > > > dose. Now I leave the ALA & DMSA right next to the alarm

> > clock. I

> > > > take them out of the bottle and dose them and then re-set

the

> > alarm

> > > > clock. I haven't tried transdermals so I can't advise on

> > those.

> > > > You also need to take care of yourself too. I think more

> > clearly

> > > > and have more energy when I take my supplements.

Unfortunately

> > I

> > > > still have 2 fillings that need to come out before I can

chelate

> > > > myself.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>