Re: OT - very sad but desperately need help

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> Yesterday my 10-year old autistic son hit our 11/2 year old yellow

lab so hard that she ended up in the animal ER with traumatic head

injury. We had her put to sleep just 2 hours ago.

> Aside from the fact that I am a giant mess over having lost our

beloved dog, I need some advice on how to deal with .

So sorry about your dog and the whole thing.

What are you doing biomedically for him? My son was aggressive and

violent, and the Feingold diet, Houston enzymes, yeast and bacteria

treatment, and lots of chelation brought him out of it.

My son was Asperger's, no language problems at all -- but I found

talking and teaching to be next to useless for any kind of social or

emotional situation. Biomed fixed it though.

Nell

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I don't have any advice, I just want to say I feel for you and what

you are going through. I hope your little guy gets the help he

needs to be able to deal with these issues. Just remember that he

really is not a malicious person, he probably can't control

himself. I know my son can't control himself. Take care hon.

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> Yesterday my 10-year old autistic son hit our 11/2 year old yellow

lab so hard that she ended up in the animal ER with traumatic head

injury. We had her put to sleep just 2 hours ago.

> Aside from the fact that I am a giant mess over having lost our

beloved dog, I need some advice on how to deal with . He

simply does not understand that he did anything wrong. What upset

him the most was seeing me cry, but he got over it really fast. How

can I help him deal with anger? Anyone know if counseling would

help? It is a tough one since it involves the emotion issue.

> If anyone has any experience with this kind of stuff or could

offer some advice, i would greatly appreciate it.

> Jane

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>>He simply does not understand that he did anything wrong.

My oldest child was like that until we did about a YEAR of vitamin therapy

when he was 9yo. This is the vitamin therapy I used:

http://kidslikemine.org/vitamintherapy.shtml I had found it online and it

was described as something used for autism. For a number of years

afterwards, any time my oldest son got too " weird " on me, I would give him

an extra B-complex vitamin. I don't have such issues with him anymore. The

last time there was an incident (a few years ago) where he was awful to his

brother, he was crying and saying " I just don't understand what I did

wrong. " I told him " Here, take your vitamins. There is no point in even

trying to explain until after you get your vitamins. You won't understand,

no matter what I say. " An hour or so after giving him vitamins, I did

explain.

I know this is hard. I hope you find answers that work with your child.

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Michele in Limbo (formerly in California)

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-- Albert Einstein

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Jane,

Oh, this sounds so very hard. You must have complex and powerful

emotions crashing around inside you. Very hard to make decisions

in that state.

I have had lots of therapy (individual, family, marital) over

the years. It can be worthless for some things and critically

important for other things. This is the kind of event where it

can be valuable. I would not take your son, but use it as

a setting in which you (alone, or with other family members)

can talk about how you feel and explore what to do.

A therapist can help you to sort out the feelings and issues and

figure out what is the best way to address this with your son.

I am so sad and sorry that you lost your dog. Losing pets can be

just as hard, if not harder in some ways, than losing people.

And the circumstances just compound things. If you can manage to

get some extra help with your son for the next week or two, that

would be helpful, too. Just so you have some extra time and space

for yourself.

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> Yesterday my 10-year old autistic son hit our 11/2 year old yellow

lab so hard that she ended up in the animal ER with traumatic head

injury. We had her put to sleep just 2 hours ago.

> Aside from the fact that I am a giant mess over having lost our

beloved dog, I need some advice on how to deal with . He

simply does not understand that he did anything wrong. What upset him

the most was seeing me cry, but he got over it really fast. How can I

help him deal with anger? Anyone know if counseling would help? It is

a tough one since it involves the emotion issue.

> If anyone has any experience with this kind of stuff or could

offer some advice, i would greatly appreciate it.

> Jane

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> is on the GF/CF diet, probiotics, MB12, spectrum

complete, DHA, and digestive enzymes.

For my #3, mB12 caused problems with aggression and a few other

things, until I gave it with folic acid and an increased yeast protocol.

For my #2, CLO or any other EFAs made him mean and aggressive, until I

gave them with mito cocktail and amino acids.

Can you ask him why he does not like the dog? Or do you know it is

because the dog was stealing his toys?

Dana

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> Dana, what is CLO and what is a mito cocktail?

Cod liver oil.

I wrote about mito cocktail here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

Dana

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I'm so sorry for what you are going through.

I have some suggestions, but these are not from my own experience,

just from listening/watching the DAN! Videos. If you haven't watched

every single one of them, please, do yourself a favor and take the

time to do just that. You will never regret it.

I would start with these things, if he were my boy:

I would increase his B6/Magnesium. There are many, many testimonials

about overcoming aggression with higher doses of B6.

If those things didn't help, or maybe even first, I would try

marijuana. The SAM Project started because of a mom who's son was so

out of control he had been thrown out of several group homes. She

gave him a brownie with marijuana in it and the aggression stopped.

Now she (and many, many others) give 1/4 of a brownie a day to their

kids. It doesn't get them high, but helps level their chemestry.

If you go on the ARI website, there is a lot of infor about all of

these things.

I would go to a gastrointerologist and have him scoped and see if he

has gut pain. If he did, I would switch to a CF version of the

Specific Carbohydrate Diet.

I'll be thinking of your boy and sending my best to all of you.

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> Yesterday my 10-year old autistic son hit our 11/2 year old yellow

lab so hard that she ended up in the animal ER with traumatic head

injury. We had her put to sleep just 2 hours ago.

> Aside from the fact that I am a giant mess over having lost our

beloved dog, I need some advice on how to deal with . He

simply does not understand that he did anything wrong. What upset him

the most was seeing me cry, but he got over it really fast. How can I

help him deal with anger? Anyone know if counseling would help? It is

a tough one since it involves the emotion issue.

> If anyone has any experience with this kind of stuff or could

offer some advice, i would greatly appreciate it.

> Jane

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Jane,

I tend to agree with you on the marijuana thing. We already know

what that does to brains. Which is brain damage and brain cell

death. I am thinking this is not the road we are searching for. Sure

the kid is calm. He's HIGH! This could be achieved with prescription

medications for " misbehaving kids " . And you would not go to jail for

purcasing an illegal substance.

It sounds to be as though your son did not develop empathy. I have

read this is quite common. My son seemed to begin to develop empathy

at the toddler age he should have but we saw it go away within a few

month. He was back to thinking it was funny when people were hurt.

He really didn't get it. While I can't offer any simple answers,

therapy may be useful and something called social stories. I don't

know the history here, have you chelated your son at all? Has he had

a hair test? While I really can't give a lot to help, my son is now

showing empathy again following some chelation.

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> > Yesterday my 10-year old autistic son hit our 11/2 year old

yellow

> lab so hard that she ended up in the animal ER with traumatic head

> injury. We had her put to sleep just 2 hours ago.

> > Aside from the fact that I am a giant mess over having lost our

> beloved dog, I need some advice on how to deal with .

He

> simply does not understand that he did anything wrong. What upset

him

> the most was seeing me cry, but he got over it really fast. How

can I

> help him deal with anger? Anyone know if counseling would help? It

is

> a tough one since it involves the emotion issue.

> > If anyone has any experience with this kind of stuff or could

> offer some advice, i would greatly appreciate it.

> > Jane

> >

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> I would start with these things, if he were my boy:

> I would increase his B6/Magnesium. There are many, many testimonials

> about overcoming aggression with higher doses of B6.

My son, and many others, get very aggressive and have rages with any

added B6. Be careful with it.

Nell