Glyconutrients

[Guest guest]

Lynn wrote:

>

> If you know anything more about this new wave of science called

> glycoscience, please let me know.

I found this URL:

http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/home.wm

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Ken, Pookie and Sammy

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[Guest guest]

This is the company behind the glyconutrients products, their leading

research & many patents - it's an MLM based operation.

They give a lot of information about the product, but responsibly do not

advocate anything. They let their sales associates do all the

talking..... There is in fact good basis for their claims about the 8

essential sugars.

http://www.mannatech.com/default.asp

Lynn wrote:

> Does anyone here have experience with taking glyconutrients? I have

> heard more good results from folks from this than any other research

> I have done.

>

> <snip>

If you know anything more about this new wave of science called

glycoscience, please let me know.

> D.L. Bullock St. Louis

[Guest guest]

I have observed people take Ambrotose for years. Sometimes with very good

results. There is a recipe for a home made version at

http://www.lis.net.au/~dbird/glyconutrients.htm . I have not seen any reports

of results with this recipe. The sugars in that mixture may not be in a free

form or even available at all.

His suggestion of using it in soy milk is, of course, a very bad idea.

Loyd http://www.royalrife.com

[ ] Glyconutrients

Does anyone here have experience with taking glyconutrients? I have

heard more good results from folks from this than any other research

I have done.

[Guest guest]

HI, I have been using glyconutrients and been involved with the company that

sells them. Glyconutrients have helped me to heal my stage III breast cancer

Here is some information about what they are;

This information is simply about putting back into our bodies nutrients we need

to be healthy that have been missing from our diet for a long time.

" Essential for life " means that without them our bodies will develop dis-ease

and die.

Why is it that even when we eat these three categories of essential nutrients

(amino acids, fatty acids & vitimins), our immune systems are still

deteriorating each year, and more of us are succumbing at earlier ages to

degenerative problems (such as heart disease and cancer) and to more than 80

different auto-immune diseases (such as asthma, arthritis, lupus, MS,

fibromyalgia)?

The answer to that question is that a fourth category of essential nutrients has

been discovered, namely, the eight super sugars our cells use to communicate

with each other.

Research has now established that these eight super sugars do not get digested

and break down into glucose. Instead, they go directly to the surfaces of our

cells where they form chains which other cells read.

What do our cells communicate about? The cells of our immune system need to

recognize toxins, bacteria, viruses and cancer cells. Our cells need to let

nutrients in, and keep out the harmful invaders and toxins. Our cells need to

destroy cancer cells and leave healthy tissue alone. Without these necessary

super sugars, nutrients don’t get delivered properly, harmful substances and

invaders get in and cause damage, cancer cells don’t get destroyed properly, and

our defense cells can attack our own healthy tissues. For example, a bone cell

needs calcium to protect against or repair osteoporosis, but only the super

sugars can let it into the cell.

Without enough of the eight super sugars in our bodies, we cannot adequately

protect ourselves against toxins, disease and degeneration.

Our modern diet is deficient in six of the eight super sugars we require.

Three-quarters of the super sugars we need are unavailable. If you use the

analogy of a car, this means that for centuries our standard for normal health

has been three tires and a very narrow spare.

Just how important are these essential super sugars? If we have a transfusion of

the wrong blood-type we die. The only difference between the three blood types

is a single super sugar.

Blind people read language by feeling precise bumps with their fingers. Cells

communicate in much the same way, feeling the chains of super sugars on the

surface of our cells. The alphabet from which we put together our words and

sentences is made up of four shapes.

What happens to our ability to form words and sentences if even one of the four

shapes (one-quarter of them) is absent? What words are our cells attempting to

form from the three remaining shapes?

These eight super sugars are so crucial to our bodies that our cells can make

any of them that are missing from any that we have. However, even in the best of

conditions, making a single molecule of a missing super sugar takes lots of time

and energy. As many as thirty-seven separate enzymes may be required. If even

one of the enzymes is missing, then the missing super sugar cannot be made.

Stress, toxins and illness also prevent our body from making the missing super

sugars.

Have we ever in human history faced higher levels of stress and toxins on a

daily basis than we do today?

The good news is the more of these eight super sugars are present in our bodies,

the faster and more efficiently our bodies can restore and maintain health.

Other missing nutrients are also required to accomplish the process of restoring

health.

For those interested to find out further please contact me privately at

alternative4you@...

718 428 0626

Naz

Misc <misc@...> wrote:

This is the company behind the glyconutrients products, their leading

research & many patents - it's an MLM based operation.

They give a lot of information about the product, but responsibly do not

advocate anything. They let their sales associates do all the

talking..... There is in fact good basis for their claims about the 8

essential sugars.

http://www.mannatech.com/default.asp

Lynn wrote:

> Does anyone here have experience with taking glyconutrients? I have

> heard more good results from folks from this than any other research

> I have done.

>

> <snip>

If you know anything more about this new wave of science called

glycoscience, please let me know.

> D.L. Bullock St. Louis

[Guest guest]

Yes, using one only. Ambrotose. We really believe in it, but have had

problems with other products from same co. ...write me off-group if you want

more

information. -- Helen

[Guest guest]

On the subject of glyconutrients, Bruce and Bob, I have discovered that

blackstrap molasses are iron rich which is not a good thing for cancer - any

comments on that? What you're doing is obviously working so maybe the

disadvantage of iron is outweighed by the advantage of glyconutrients?

I have also found the following powder mix proposed on various websites: kelp

powder, fenugreek powder, whey protein concentrate powder (with added enzymes is

best), brewer’s yeast, shark (or bovine) cartilage powder, psyllium powder and

lecithin powder – add shiitake mushroom powder, cayenne pepper (optional). Buy

one pound of each item and mix together thoroughly. Eat one full teaspoon twice

a day.

[Guest guest]

athan,

My personal belief is that glyconutrients are only a small part

of the puzzle and to expect them to work as a cure-all for cancer is more

than misplaced trust. To me, it is like anything that anyone promotes that

is the " one bottle " , " one drug " , cure-all. Maybe for someone it worked that

way, but people are a very, very complex mechanism and to expect than any

single thing such as glyconutrients or whey or beet juice or LDN or transfer

factor or Cantron or anything else can normally be expected to solve the

issue is wishful thinking. Now maybe you are the one in ten thousand that

simply needs the little boost over the edge in that one area to get the

immune system fully functioning or for some reason the cancer involved has a

specific weakness for the one thing missing, who knows? But to listen to

most people make blanket statements that adding one thing to the regimen

will fix the problem is not realistic. And before everyone jumps down my

throat on this stuff, I realize that most people do use most things such as

whey as part of an overall program, not as a stand alone " cure-all. " And

that is as it should be. Your life is in the balance. This is not a

science experiment to prove or disprove that any one thing will solve the

problem. Throw everything you can find at it. Who cares what works as long

as something does. My only rules tend to be not to use things that do

restrict other well documented supplements and regimens of known value.

As to the iron issue, most people have too much iron to begin

with but do not seem to be able to adequately access it which is probably a

good thing unless suffering from anemia which is also a very common side -

effect of cancer and conventional cancer treatments. Perhaps those looking

to glyconutrients for support do have blood conditioning issues such as that

in the first place. The only reason I had looked into that was when first

diagnosed, I had at least a dozen people try to convince me that Mannateck

would stop my cancer in weeks. Once I tore the formulation apart, I found

what they were offering was doable for roughly $5. per month and considered

the Mannateck one of the bigger scams I had come across. When I tore

further into it, I found that a 90% bright vegetable, cruciferous vegetable

based diet seemed to have everything needed and unless the body was so

dramatically out of whack, there appeared to be no need to even spend an

extra $5 a month.

For a long time I had a long list of a reasonable formulation

for glyconutrients, but when I started researching the basic foods we eat,

if you eat properly to begin with, you get all the basic sugars in the

proper amounts and do not need the supplements in the first place. The

stuff from Boston Mountain Labs does not have iron in it and looks like it

would cost about $35 per month for everything and then some. That looks to

be a better deal than Mannateck which is why I mentioned it in the first

place.

I do not list anything on our website about glyconutrient

balance and supplements for that balance, simply because I have seen

absolutely no documented evidence (beyond a bunch of antidotal stories) that

adding those supplements would really be of benefit. But if you are

convinced they will work for you or your doctor is in favor of them, don't

let me stand in you way. Just make the decision based upon what your body

needs not what someone is merchandising as a cure-all.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

<http://survivecancer.net> Http://survivecancer.net

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.

Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of jonathan chamberlain

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:15 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: glyconutrients

On the subject of glyconutrients, Bruce and Bob, I have discovered that

blackstrap molasses are iron rich which is not a good thing for cancer - any

comments on that? What you're doing is obviously working so maybe the

disadvantage of iron is outweighed by the advantage of glyconutrients?

I have also found the following powder mix proposed on various websites:

kelp powder, fenugreek powder, whey protein concentrate powder (with added

enzymes is best), brewer's yeast, shark (or bovine) cartilage powder,

psyllium powder and lecithin powder - add shiitake mushroom powder, cayenne

pepper (optional). Buy one pound of each item and mix together thoroughly.

Eat one full teaspoon twice a day.

[Guest guest]

I should have mentioned that I wasn't taking the molasses again until after I

got a clean bill of health. And for the reason you brought up, it being high in

iron.

It's a shame that studies can't be done on the more promising homeopathic

remedies. I'm sure that if the best ways of using them were determined, they

would all have a better track record. bob

[ ] Re: glyconutrients

On the subject of glyconutrients, Bruce and Bob, I have discovered that

blackstrap molasses are iron rich which is not a good thing for cancer - any

comments on that? What you're doing is obviously working so maybe the

disadvantage of iron is outweighed by the advantage of glyconutrients?

I have also found the following powder mix proposed on various websites:

kelp powder, fenugreek powder, whey protein concentrate powder (with added

enzymes is best), brewer's yeast, shark (or bovine) cartilage powder, psyllium

powder and lecithin powder - add shiitake mushroom powder, cayenne pepper

(optional). Buy one pound of each item and mix together thoroughly. Eat one full

teaspoon twice a day.

[Guest guest]

I agree with everything you say, Bruce. But in fact you are taking blackstrap

molasses as part of your strategy. What convinced you that was the way to go?

I think it is very important for everyone to get away from the idea that

eliminating the cancer tumour is the be all and end all of whatever strategy a

person elects to follow - obviously that's important but the other question is

this: what conditions existed to allow it to grow in the first place and how can

we make sure they are changed?

Rather than just say how can I get rid of my cancer we should be saying how

can I heal my body. It's natural for people who arrive in this place called

cancer to say: what will fix my problem so that I can go back to living as I

have been living. Getting them to view the problem as a long term strategy

involving a complete lifestyle overhaul is the hard part.

Bruce Guilmette wrote:

athan,

My personal belief is that glyconutrients are only a small part

of the puzzle and to expect them to work as a cure-all for cancer is more than

misplaced trust. .............<snip>

[Guest guest]

,

What I did to get rid of my cancer is exactly as published on

our website to the 'nth detail. I reviewed many, many things and did not

accept most of what I looked at for a number of reasons. Glyconutrients was

one of those things I looked at but did not do. Now that the threat of

cancer has passed, I am playing with other things including the value of

glyconutrients, but it is not part of a regular regimen. Diet/nutrition are

the mainstays of what I do. The only things I am currently doing on a

regular basis are 10 oz of beet juice daily, 5 mg low dose Naltrexone and 9

mgs of melatonin. Everything else is through nutrition. No supplements, no

vitamins, no minerals. On an annual basis I am also doing the BREUSS JUICE

FAST as a preventive measure. But that is it.

I experiment upon myself by measuring different things including perceptions

of health by adding and taking things away. The apple cider and black strap

molasses is one of those things done on occasion as an experimental effort.

When I take it over a 4 or 5 day period, there is a difference in body

" feeling " that is not wholly quantifiable at this point which is what I am

experimenting with it. I need to know what is involved and really have not

been able to define it through blood testing or other means as of this

point. So, for the short term, it becomes an antidotal piece of evidence

that I " feel " better but cannot point to what it is that has improved. A

long way of saying I can find no physical improvement as of this point in

time.

I agree that the only way to keep cancer gone is to shift the paradigm.

What I am running into with most people that I am working with is that there

is a great reluctance to change old habits. I have refused to work with

more than 50 people because they will not even try to change and I do not

have time to teach if they do not want to be involved in the fundamental

alterations for their own health, let alone make a life-time commitment.

The single most commonly asked question is , " Do I have to live like this

for the rest of my life? " or " How soon can I go back to my Big Mac's and

supersized fries? "

Those are the people who maybe beat cancer the first time around, maybe even

the second time around with or without chemotherapy/surgery/radiation, but

finally loose because they never commit to the necessary changes to stay the

course.

That is why I said glyconutrients are only a very small piece of the puzzle.

That is why I do not believe that any single thing will solve the cancer

issue. Each person's physiology, psychological makeup, and cancer type make

their individual cases unique. Nothing works all the time for everyone

because there are too many unquantified variables to just pidgenhole cancer.

There are no magic bullets. There are no quick or sure cures. If you are

not willing to commit to helping your body heal itself, you lose the life

lottery. It is that simple.

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

<http://survivecancer.net> Http://survivecancer.net

Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.

Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of jonathan chamberlain

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:32 PM

Subject: [ ] RE: glyconutrients

I agree with everything you say, Bruce. But in fact you are taking

blackstrap molasses as part of your strategy. What convinced you that was

the way to go?

I think it is very important for everyone to get away from the idea that

eliminating the cancer tumour is the be all and end all of whatever strategy

a person elects to follow - obviously that's important but the other

question is this: what conditions existed to allow it to grow in the first

place and how can we make sure they are changed?

Rather than just say how can I get rid of my cancer we should be saying

how can I heal my body. It's natural for people who arrive in this place

called cancer to say: what will fix my problem so that I can go back to

living as I have been living. Getting them to view the problem as a long

term strategy involving a complete lifestyle overhaul is the hard part.

Bruce Guilmette wrote:

athan,

My personal belief is that glyconutrients are only a small part

of the puzzle and to expect them to work as a cure-all for cancer is more

than misplaced trust. .............<snip>

[Guest guest]

What does low dose naltrexone do for a cancer patient Bruce? I know MS

patients take this and I can get it for that. Does LDN need to be obtained

at a compounding pharmacy?

~Amber

Bruce wrote:

The only things I am currently doing on a regular basis are 10 oz of beet

juice daily, 5 mg low dose Naltrexone and 9 mgs of melatonin. Everything

else is through nutrition.

[Guest guest]

Many cancers have opiate receptors involved. Anything such as RCC (what I

have), most types of lung cancer, prostate cancer, breast cancer, colon

cancer, liver cancer, gallbladder cancer, pancreatic cancer, etc. can all be

helped by LDN. It works basically the same way by stimulating the immune

system in it circadian cycle which in turn attacks the cancer.

I get a scrip from the doctor for the standard 50 mg tabs and then simply

dissolve in distilled water and keep in the refrigerator. My wife takes it

to help with arthritis as well as a preventative for cancer. The

compounding pharmacy way is to me a rather expensive thing to do and not

necessary unless you don't want to deal with a 5 ml syringe of stuff

nightly. To me it is easy and the $7 copay on our insurance is certainly

cheap enough. With both of us using it, one scrip lasts nearly 6 months.

Like anything else, do not expect it to overcome bad dietary practices or

other poor lifestyle issues that you can correct yourself. It is a help,

not a cure-all. Would not be without it.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survivecancer Foundation, Inc.

http://survivecancer.net <http://survivecancer.net/>

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Stargazer

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:07 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: glyconutrients

What does low dose naltrexone do for a cancer patient Bruce? I know MS

patients take this and I can get it for that. Does LDN need to be obtained

at a compounding pharmacy?

~Amber

Bruce wrote:

The only things I am currently doing on a regular basis are 10 oz of beet

juice daily, 5 mg low dose Naltrexone and 9 mgs of melatonin. Everything

else is through nutrition.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I use them now to treat both me and my son (autistic). They have been a

miracle for us! We have had GREAT success and continue to see improvements - no

platau! I have done a lot of research on them too. Please email me privately

and I can give you some pointers on how to get the cheaper!

Take care,

Roe

~ Roe

v | The greatest gift one can give is the gift of health! v |

U U U U U U

~ God is GOOD and Jesus is coming! ~

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[Guest guest]

I, as well as my son, are on it now and just started about 2 weeks ago. Don' t

know if it works, but I can order you some if you ever want to try it.

crystalandbrock@...

[ ] glyconutrients

Hi all;

Has anyone tried glyconutrients,like ambrotose, plus,immunostart, ambrotose

ao,glycobears?

I would appreciate any comments on these. Thanks Joyce.

[Guest guest]

Hi Joyce,

I use the Ambrotose, AO, PLUS, Immunostart and others and have my children on

the Ambrotose powder, Mannabears, Glycobears, Plus and Immunostart. I have been

on these products for 6 months now and no longer need my long list of

prescription drugs. The results I am seeing in my autistic son have been

miraculous!

Are you working with an associate? Please let me know if you have any other

questions or need help understanding the science byhind glyconutrients.

Roe

~ Roe

v | The greatest gift one can give is the gift of health! v |

U U U U U U

~ God is GOOD and Jesus is coming! ~

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[Guest guest]

How do we know you are not affiliated to the company? If they are so

good why are all the most progressive DAN! docs not going on about

them in their presentations?? I do not wish to offend a genuine

parent but I am healthily cynical these days.

>

> Hi Joyce,

>

> I use the Ambrotose, AO, PLUS, Immunostart and others and have

my children on the Ambrotose powder, Mannabears, Glycobears, Plus

and Immunostart. I have been on these products for 6 months now and

no longer need my long list of prescription drugs. The results I am

seeing in my autistic son have been miraculous!

>

> Are you working with an associate? Please let me know if you

have any other questions or need help understanding the science

byhind glyconutrients.

> Roe

>

>

> ~ Roe

>

> v | The greatest gift one can give is the gift of health! v

|

>

> U U U U U U

>

> ~ God is GOOD and Jesus is coming! ~

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I just started Ambrotose which has glyconutrients in it for my daughter a few

days ago. I am seeing her initiate & complete complex tasks. Much more than she

was doing before the Ambrotose. She is a 6 yr. old little girl with barely any

language but, we're making her smart as a whip receptively. Jenn & K

carlchiv10 <gloriazig1@...> wrote: Has anyone use the

glyconutrients for autism treatment. The product on

this website looks pretty good any experiences using this product.

Your feedback will be really appreciated.

http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?

store=clayforautism & product=Glyconutrients & exact_match=exact

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[Guest guest]

I use glyconutrients as a supplement for my autistic son. It has made the

BIGGEST impact. They are 8 essential saccharides that are required for cell to

cell communications. I wouldn't use that brand as they do not hold the patents

on the combination of these sugars. There have been many studies with autism,

ADD, ADHD and glyconutrients and how they have helped. Please email me

privately if you would like more information.

Roe

~ Roe

www.roe.cellularhealthplan.com

v | The greatest gift one can give is the gift of health! v |

U U U U U U

~ God is GOOD and Jesus is coming! ~

I am living to Live AGAIN! Are you?

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[Guest guest]

I have tried Ambrotose 2 times with my 4 yo son. Both times, it caused more

yeast than it helped.

Sofia

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

My 5 1/2yr old son has been taking Ambrose for about 1 yr. and we have

been happy with the results. We definitely saw improvement in the

first few months. More social play at school and responding better to

his teacher and classmates. I have slacked off a bit on it lately, it

does get expensive and we are now doing MB12 injections. But I do

believe, and our DAN agreed it is very good for their immune system.

My son gets asthma when he has a cold and I swear it cut down the

amount of breathing treatments he needed. Make sure you give enough,

I don't think I ever gave a big enough dose. Also it really helped my

son with constipation. I think this would be beneficial for anyone to

take.

[Guest guest]

Hi, where do you get it from? I've never heard of it.

[Guest guest]

Ambrotose has glyconutrients in it. You can find it @ mannatech.com I believe.

It's not SCD legal though but, my daughter has been doing wonderful on it so

far. Jenn & K

shakylecon@... wrote: Hi, where do you get it from? I've never

heard of it.

[Guest guest]

you can also get them from this link

http://www.clayforautism.com/supplementsforchildren.html

>From: shakylecon@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Re: Glyconutrients

>Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:48:48 EST

>

>Hi, where do you get it from? I've never heard of it.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Would it matter if I were affiliated with the company? Do you ask

the doctor when she/he prescribes zithromax as an antibotic if they

are getting kickbacks (which they are for your information). It is

ok to be cynical, but just be sure you don't disregard something good

because your being too critical. I am an independent distributor,

but that doesn't make the product BAD. In addition MANY MANY DAN!

doctors DO use glyconutrients in their protocol. In fact. Dr. Amy

Yasko is currently starting this as her protocol, so you tell me, do

you think she would use a product that didn't have validity? Because

it is so new, it isn't as popular, but I believe you will be seeing

it used more and more with autistic, ADHD, & ADD children.

If anyone wants some detailed background on how they work and what is

the protocol for autistic childen, I have that information at my

disposal.

Regards,

Roe

> >

> > Hi Joyce,

> >

> > I use the Ambrotose, AO, PLUS, Immunostart and others and have

> my children on the Ambrotose powder, Mannabears, Glycobears, Plus

> and Immunostart. I have been on these products for 6 months now

and

> no longer need my long list of prescription drugs. The results I

am

> seeing in my autistic son have been miraculous!

> >

> > Are you working with an associate? Please let me know if you

> have any other questions or need help understanding the science

> byhind glyconutrients.

> > Roe

> >

> >

> > ~ Roe

> >

> > v | The greatest gift one can give is the gift of health! v

> |

> >

> > U U U U U U

> >

> > ~ God is GOOD and Jesus is coming! ~

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

>

> Would it matter if I were affiliated with the company?

Yes, it DOES matter.

> Do you ask

> the doctor when she/he prescribes zithromax as an antibotic if they

> are getting kickbacks

If you read this list at all you'll note we're not terrific fans of

the way mainstream medicine is practiced, holding hands with pharma.

>I am an independent distributor,

> but that doesn't make the product BAD.

Nobody's saying that. What people are saying is that we do not want to

get our information from distributors, manufacturers, sellers,

advertisers, flacks, etc etc etc.

And the phony questions to give yourselves opportunity for more

spamming does not win you any believers.

Nell

(got a little yeast going today, can you tell?)