Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Darci, Some kids are better on the round and some when they are off round. You can do longer rounds if possible, up to three weeks at a time. No, yeast doesn't have to be totally under control to restart the round but some find they have to take some time off chelation if the yeast gets to be too much of a problem. Increase your probiotics and whatever you use for yeast control and see if this helps. [ ] 1st day off chelation We finished our first 3 days of chelation. I was anticipating it to be really bad and my son actually seemed better while we were chelating. He had good color in his face, seemed happy, I didn't see any eye turning seizures, fell to sleep faster etc. We stopped at 3 am and today he seemed more lethargic, not as much color in his face, yeasty stools (yellow), more stimmy, more spacey, and I did see seizures. Is this something others have seen? I would have thought it would be the other way around. I am hoping to start back up this Friday, but was wondering if yeast has to be totally under control (no yellow bms) before starting again? Thanks so much. Darci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 > We finished our first 3 days of chelation. I was anticipating it to > be really bad and my son actually seemed better while we were > chelating. He had good color in his face, seemed happy, I didn't see > any eye turning seizures, fell to sleep faster etc. We stopped at 3 > am and today he seemed more lethargic, not as much color in his face, > yeasty stools (yellow), more stimmy, more spacey, and I did see > seizures. Try increasing your yeast protocol, see if that helps. For my son, he was better " on " round, because he was mineral toxic and the chelator [i used ALA] was reducing the mineral level as well as the metals. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Thanks and Dana, Wondering if you could give me some different ideas for yeast protocol. Right now I am giving the following. 1 drop GSE with 1/2 tsp no fenol first thing in the morning 2 Threelac's during the day 1 to 2 Florastor (Saccharomyces boulardii) during day 2 drops GSE w/ 1/2 tsp no fenol 2 hours after dinner Last night I followed the GSE with charcoal (45 minutes after) With giving the probiotics during the day, it's hard to find time to give any more GSE. Would giving GSE be more beneficial than the probiotics? My son is high D-lactate so I know certain probiotics are not good to use. Thanks for any help. Darci > > We finished our first 3 days of chelation. I was anticipating it to > > be really bad and my son actually seemed better while we were > > chelating. He had good color in his face, seemed happy, I didn't see > > any eye turning seizures, fell to sleep faster etc. We stopped at 3 > > am and today he seemed more lethargic, not as much color in his face, > > yeasty stools (yellow), more stimmy, more spacey, and I did see > > seizures. > > > Try increasing your yeast protocol, see if that helps. > > For my son, he was better " on " round, because he was mineral toxic and > the chelator [i used ALA] was reducing the mineral level as well as > the metals. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 At Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:10 am ((PST)), " darciannklotz " bdnwk1@... wrote: >Wondering if you could give me some different ideas for yeast >protocol. http://www.coconutdiet.com/candida.htm That webpage discusses coconut oil for yeast control. We've been cooking with coconut oil in our home for several years now. And our son appears to have no problems with yeast caused by ALA - me either for that matter. Also if you get the expeller pressed oil there is no taste or odor and it's cheaper - just as effective afaik in controlling yeast and other microbes. hth, Marty -- Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's discussion list as-hfa-homeschool/ Webmaster's Bulletin Board - http://bbs.face2interface.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Thanks Marty, I also use coconut oil to cook with, it's either that or ghee. I try not to use a ton because it is so high in Sat. fat. When I heard about cooking with olive oil and how it isn't good, I switched to coconut oil. Thanks again. Darci > > >Wondering if you could give me some different ideas for yeast > >protocol. > > http://www.coconutdiet.com/candida.htm > > That webpage discusses coconut oil for yeast control. We've been > cooking with coconut oil in our home for several years now. And our > son appears to have no problems with yeast caused by ALA - me either > for that matter. Also if you get the expeller pressed oil there is no > taste or odor and it's cheaper - just as effective afaik in > controlling yeast and other microbes. > > hth, > > Marty > > > > -- > Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's discussion list > as-hfa-homeschool/ > Webmaster's Bulletin Board - http://bbs.face2interface.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Darci, don't worry about the saturated fat!!! This is the kind of fat our ancestors relied on heavily, and our bodies rely on it for many, many things. I went to the Weston A. Price site to search for relevant articles, but there are hundreds, it seems. Here are a few that seemed relevant, but you could use the search engine on their site to find many more: http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/import_sat_fat.html http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/coconut-oil-studies.html http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/fatfear.html I've been thinking about getting a T shirt printed that says " I (heart) saturated fat " . As if people don't already think I'm a bit cracked. :-) take care Rene ps. I was so glad to hear that round #1 went well for you! > > Thanks Marty, > > I also use coconut oil to cook with, it's either that or ghee. I > try not to use a ton because it is so high in Sat. fat. When I > heard about cooking with olive oil and how it isn't good, I switched > to coconut oil. > > Thanks again. > > Darci > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi Rene I take it you use coconut oil as well. I guess the reason I started to get concerned was because Wills blood test came back showing very high in lauric and capric under the saturated fats which is found in coconut oil. I was giving him a ton though and just cut back some. I know people think I am a little crazy too, oh well. Happy Thanksgiving. Darci > > > > Thanks Marty, > > > > I also use coconut oil to cook with, it's either that or ghee. I > > try not to use a ton because it is so high in Sat. fat. When I > > heard about cooking with olive oil and how it isn't good, I > switched > > to coconut oil. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Darci > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Darci, It's pretty typical for the kids to be tired the day after. Barb [ ] 1st day off chelation We finished our first 3 days of chelation. I was anticipating it to be really bad and my son actually seemed better while we were chelating. He had good color in his face, seemed happy, I didn't see any eye turning seizures, fell to sleep faster etc. We stopped at 3 am and today he seemed more lethargic, not as much color in his face, yeasty stools (yellow), more stimmy, more spacey, and I did see seizures. Is this something others have seen? I would have thought it would be the other way around. I am hoping to start back up this Friday, but was wondering if yeast has to be totally under control (no yellow bms) before starting again? Thanks so much. Darci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 > With giving the probiotics during the day, it's hard to find time to > give any more GSE. Would giving GSE be more beneficial than the > probiotics? Depends on how bad the yeast is. Right now, with this anti-viral protocol, I don't give probiotics at all. Add biotin, it really helped control yeast for my kids. In fact, I just added it again. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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