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Hi Janet,

So sorry to hear that your trip turned out badly due to your health. I have

a rheumatologist that I love: Dr. Ricciardi, 200 Clinton Street in

Brooklyn Heights.

Please let us know how you're doing.

Kathy F.

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Dear Janet, I’ve been wanting to go on a cruise for so long, but what you

described is exactly what I’m afraid would happen to me. As far as your

swollen foot goes, I have that problem a lot as well. My doctor can’t

figure it out either. I think PA can inflame the blood vessels just like

any other part of our body. I’ve had 3 blood clot tests done and all were

negative, yet my leg swells like something is terribly wrong. I’m on 2

different types of water pills and even then it’s not normal. If I walk or

do anything at all it swells, and it’s been like this ever since I tried

Enbrel a few years ago. If stopping the Mobic doesn’t help, I would

consider changing the Enbrel as well. Have you ever tried Humira? It didn’

t help me, but I know Kathy F. our moderator does just great on it. She

feels like it has changed her pain levels drastically.

In the meantime, all I can suggest if getting your foot elevated and finding

a new doctor like you said. I wish I knew someone I could recommend, but

good rheumy are so hard to find. I hope you feel better soon. Take care

and I’ll be thinking of you. Love, Fran

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I just back back from a cruise which should have been great fun but

turned out to be agonizing. I was in so much pain just trying to

walk aroung the ship. To go into town my husband pushed me in a

provided wheelchair. By the third day of the cruise I could not

recognize my right foot. It was so swollen that it looked like a

whole bologna to me. At that point all I could do was ice on and off

most of the cruise. I came back yesterday and saw my rheumy today.

I am really fed up with him. He kept saying what are you on again. I

told him mobic 15mg and double Enbrel. He told my to reduce the

mobic because it causes swelling and that I needed a stronger water

pill. He said I am filled with water. I just thought my foot was all

swollen from the PA. I told him I was in pain and he just stared at

me with a blank look. I asked to change to remicade and he said

ins would not pay because it is only approved for rheumatoid A. Then

he said my rheumatoid factor was borderline so lets do blood and I

should call him the end of the week. Meanwhile my foot is so swollen

and I am in pain. Can't my foot be swollen from the PA and not water

retention. Anyway I know I have asked before but would really like

some recommedations of doctors in NYC or Long Island.

Janet

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Janet PA can cause the foot to swell, sometimes but I have found

(for myself anyways) and to the extent you are saying that it is

water retention and if I don't take my water pill every day the

swelling/bloating starts. I can gain over 10 lbs just from water in

only a couple of days. I would at least give the water pill a try

and if after a couple of days to a week there is no difference then

you know that is not the problem.

Good luck

Dick

>

>

> I just back back from a cruise which should have been great fun

but

> turned out to be agonizing. I was in so much pain just trying to

> walk aroung the ship. To go into town my husband pushed me in a

> provided wheelchair. By the third day of the cruise I could not

> recognize my right foot. It was so swollen that it looked like a

> whole bologna to me. At that point all I could do was ice on and

off

> most of the cruise. I came back yesterday and saw my rheumy

today.

> I am really fed up with him. He kept saying what are you on

again. I

> told him mobic 15mg and double Enbrel. He told my to reduce the

> mobic because it causes swelling and that I needed a stronger

water

> pill. He said I am filled with water. I just thought my foot was

all

> swollen from the PA. I told him I was in pain and he just stared

at

> me with a blank look. I asked to change to remicade and he said my

> ins would not pay because it is only approved for rheumatoid A.

Then

> he said my rheumatoid factor was borderline so lets do blood and I

> should call him the end of the week. Meanwhile my foot is so

swollen

> and I am in pain. Can't my foot be swollen from the PA and not

water

> retention. Anyway I know I have asked before but would really

like

> some recommedations of doctors in NYC or Long Island.

> Janet

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Hi Janet,

Sorry about your cruise and your Dr. I had my foot swell up two times in my

life-I broke the top of it and walked on it for weeks until I went to a Dr., the

2nd time was with my PA. I can't believe how these Rheumys can be. My Rheumy

said that PA doesn't get into your back or spine and I thought I had read

somewhere on the internet that it does-maybe I'm wrong. Also your Dr. should

have done x-rays-not knowing what was going on.

God Bless, Sue.

janet <fam24@...> wrote:

I just back back from a cruise which should have been great fun but

turned out to be agonizing. I was in so much pain just trying to

walk aroung the ship. To go into town my husband pushed me in a

provided wheelchair. By the third day of the cruise I could not

recognize my right foot. It was so swollen that it looked like a

whole bologna to me. At that point all I could do was ice on and off

most of the cruise. I came back yesterday and saw my rheumy today.

I am really fed up with him. He kept saying what are you on again. I

told him mobic 15mg and double Enbrel. He told my to reduce the

mobic because it causes swelling and that I needed a stronger water

pill. He said I am filled with water. I just thought my foot was all

swollen from the PA. I told him I was in pain and he just stared at

me with a blank look. I asked to change to remicade and he said my

ins would not pay because it is only approved for rheumatoid A. Then

he said my rheumatoid factor was borderline so lets do blood and I

should call him the end of the week. Meanwhile my foot is so swollen

and I am in pain. Can't my foot be swollen from the PA and not water

retention. Anyway I know I have asked before but would really like

some recommedations of doctors in NYC or Long Island.

Janet

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Hi Janet,

I go to this doctor every other month and have always found parking on the

street. Most of the street parking is metered so you have to bring quarters.

There is a parking garage around the corner - expensive - but there as a backup.

Parking will be a problem everywhere in Manhattan and in some parts of Brooklyn

- it is not like in the suburbs where you have parking available everywhere.

Kathy F.

In a message dated 2/2/2005 8:24:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Pugnfriend@... writes:

Please let us know how you're doing.

Kathy

Thanks for the doctor referral Kathy. I mapped the office address on

mapquest. Is that an area where parking is very difficult.

Thanks,

Janet

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Hi Janet,

I'm wondering, as I too have a swollen ankle (right) and I had a cortizone shot

in Sept for it, it took the swelling and pain away for almost 2 months. I hear

it's suppose to last longer but for me it didn't. I'm now being referred to an

orthopedic surgeon for ankle arthrosis. It's fusion of the ankle joint. If your

anke is bad and causes you that much problems, maybe this is something you can

discuss with your rhuemy.

Sorry to hear your vacation was bombarded with pain! No good....wishing you

well.

Sincerely

janet <fam24@...> wrote:

I just back back from a cruise which should have been great fun but

turned out to be agonizing. I was in so much pain just trying to

walk aroung the ship. To go into town my husband pushed me in a

provided wheelchair. By the third day of the cruise I could not

recognize my right foot. It was so swollen that it looked like a

whole bologna to me. At that point all I could do was ice on and off

most of the cruise. I came back yesterday and saw my rheumy today.

I am really fed up with him. He kept saying what are you on again. I

told him mobic 15mg and double Enbrel. He told my to reduce the

mobic because it causes swelling and that I needed a stronger water

pill. He said I am filled with water. I just thought my foot was all

swollen from the PA. I told him I was in pain and he just stared at

me with a blank look. I asked to change to remicade and he said my

ins would not pay because it is only approved for rheumatoid A. Then

he said my rheumatoid factor was borderline so lets do blood and I

should call him the end of the week. Meanwhile my foot is so swollen

and I am in pain. Can't my foot be swollen from the PA and not water

retention. Anyway I know I have asked before but would really like

some recommedations of doctors in NYC or Long Island.

Janet

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hi sue,

i'm writing to say that you are correct, and your doctor is wrong.

people with pa most definitely can get spine involvement, it is

called psoriatic spondylitis.... i think i have this happening to me

right now. my rheumy has listened to me (sort of, in a patronizing

type of way <groan>), but wouldn't even check out my back - blames

everything on fibro and won't consider anything new might be taking

place.... very frustrating. he has at least scheduled me for a bone

scan so we will see (though did say he was sure it would show

nothing!).... there are some wonderful websites that discuss pa

spondylitis.... i've been researching it myself recently - try

www.spondylitis.org. i believe this site discusses it.

take care sue - i'm so glad your hip surgery went well, and that you

survived the kidney punch - lol - not that i was laughing reading

about all that you've been through, quite the opposite in fact. i'm

so glad you are feeling better now.

xx karen

>

> Hi Janet,

>

> Sorry about your cruise and your Dr. I had my foot swell up two

times in my life-I broke the top of it and walked on it for weeks

until I went to a Dr., the 2nd time was with my PA. I can't believe

how these Rheumys can be. My Rheumy said that PA doesn't get into

your back or spine and I thought I had read somewhere on the

internet that it does-maybe I'm wrong. Also your Dr. should have

done x-rays-not knowing what was going on.

>

> God Bless, Sue.

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In a message dated 2/3/2005 5:50:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dovedthe1@... writes:

I'm now being referred to an orthopedic surgeon for ankle arthrosis.

thanks for your help. My rheumy did not even xray the ankle. What exactly

is ankle arthrosis?

Janet

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Hi Janet,

An ankle arthrosis is a surgery that has the ankle joint fused. You would loose

all natural mobility to move the ankle up and down, but it stops the arthritis

in it's tracks, takes the pain and swelling away. This is a last resort option.

Some alternative therapies should be sought before thinking of surgery. You may

want to check into physio therapy for the ankle. Have you tried using tensor

bandages to secure it while walking? This can help reduce the swelling aswell.

Rotating hot and cold compresses may also relief some pain and swelling.

Best wishes,

Dove

fam24@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/3/2005 5:50:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dovedthe1@... writes:

I'm now being referred to an orthopedic surgeon for ankle arthrosis.

thanks for your help. My rheumy did not even xray the ankle. What exactly

is ankle arthrosis?

Janet

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In a message dated 2/4/2005 6:12:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dovedthe1@... writes:

.. Have you tried using tensor bandages to secure it while walking? This can

help reduce the swelling aswell. Rotating hot and cold compresses may also

relief some pain and swelling.

Best wishes,

Thanks Dove,

I do alternate hot and cold compresses. I'm not sure what a tensor bandage

is. Is this like an ace bandage. I will have to research this.

Janet

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Hi and thank you for your kind words,

You are always sweet and always make me feel better. That is what my Rheumy

blamed my spine pain on was me having Fibro. I think maybe my Rheumy is getting

" burned out " on seeing patients with PA-that is way he acts to me anyhow. I

guess when he went to medical school he first was taught to be a GP where he

patients were treated and he didn't see them for awhile because they got better

with their sickness, etc. To have to treat patients that will always have this

disease and probably have other illness that follow probably is depressing to

him. When I was employed by a local hospital in the late 1980's a Dr. that had

a hallway full of terminated ill patients with cancer-when he walked past me one

day (he must have been having a bad day) he said " why didn't I go to school to

be a plummer like my father! " . When my family can't get over me being in the

hospital so much I tell them that I think everything is related to my PA in a

way. I'm hoping after this month I will not see

another surgery suite ever!! I have to go and have my stint removed Feb. 17!!

So I'm hoping for March as a good month for me!!

God Bless, Sue.

<missionblondie@...> wrote:

hi sue,

i'm writing to say that you are correct, and your doctor is wrong.

people with pa most definitely can get spine involvement, it is

called psoriatic spondylitis.... i think i have this happening to me

right now. my rheumy has listened to me (sort of, in a patronizing

type of way <groan>), but wouldn't even check out my back - blames

everything on fibro and won't consider anything new might be taking

place.... very frustrating. he has at least scheduled me for a bone

scan so we will see (though did say he was sure it would show

nothing!).... there are some wonderful websites that discuss pa

spondylitis.... i've been researching it myself recently - try

www.spondylitis.org. i believe this site discusses it.

take care sue - i'm so glad your hip surgery went well, and that you

survived the kidney punch - lol - not that i was laughing reading

about all that you've been through, quite the opposite in fact. i'm

so glad you are feeling better now.

xx karen

>

> Hi Janet,

>

> Sorry about your cruise and your Dr. I had my foot swell up two

times in my life-I broke the top of it and walked on it for weeks

until I went to a Dr., the 2nd time was with my PA. I can't believe

how these Rheumys can be. My Rheumy said that PA doesn't get into

your back or spine and I thought I had read somewhere on the

internet that it does-maybe I'm wrong. Also your Dr. should have

done x-rays-not knowing what was going on.

>

> God Bless, Sue.

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hi sue,

you're welcome love. you've been through alot - too much in fact -

it must feel wonderful to know that in march this recent 'crappola'

you've had to deal with will be behind you - wonderful! just in

time for spring. i'm going to be rooting for you all the way kiddo!

(((hugs))) - :-D

karen

>

> Hi and thank you for your kind words,

>

> You are always sweet and always make me feel better. That is what

my Rheumy blamed my spine pain on was me having Fibro. I think

maybe my Rheumy is getting " burned out " on seeing patients with PA-

that is way he acts to me anyhow. I guess when he went to medical

school he first was taught to be a GP where he patients were treated

and he didn't see them for awhile because they got better with their

sickness, etc. To have to treat patients that will always have this

disease and probably have other illness that follow probably is

depressing to him. When I was employed by a local hospital in the

late 1980's a Dr. that had a hallway full of terminated ill patients

with cancer-when he walked past me one day (he must have been having

a bad day) he said " why didn't I go to school to be a plummer like

my father! " . When my family can't get over me being in the hospital

so much I tell them that I think everything is related to my PA in a

way. I'm hoping after this month I will not see

> another surgery suite ever!! I have to go and have my stint

removed Feb. 17!! So I'm hoping for March as a good month for me!!

>

> God Bless, Sue.

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Janet,

It sure sounds like an Ace bandage to me.

Kathy F.

In a message dated 2/5/2005 7:43:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dovedthe1@... writes:

Hi Janet,

A tensor bandage is like a cloth (stetchy) material that you wrap around

your injured joint - example: ankle. You can adjust the tension to your liking

by how tightly you wrap it on. In Canada, they are easily purchased at any

drug store and range anywhere from $3 - $20 depending on the quality of bandage

you buy.

This maybe something worth giving a try, it does help reduce swelling and

pain - for me usually short term.

Let me know how you make out!

Hugs,

Dove

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Hi Janet,

A tensor bandage is like a cloth (stetchy) material that you wrap around your

injured joint - example: ankle. You can adjust the tension to your liking by how

tightly you wrap it on. In Canada, they are easily purchased at any drug store

and range anywhere from $3 - $20 depending on the quality of bandage you buy.

This maybe something worth giving a try, it does help reduce swelling and pain -

for me usually short term.

Let me know how you make out!

Hugs,

Dove

fam24@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/4/2005 6:12:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dovedthe1@... writes:

.. Have you tried using tensor bandages to secure it while walking? This can

help reduce the swelling aswell. Rotating hot and cold compresses may also

relief some pain and swelling.

Best wishes,

Thanks Dove,

I do alternate hot and cold compresses. I'm not sure what a tensor bandage

is. Is this like an ace bandage. I will have to research this.

Janet

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Hi my name is Theresa and my first son was fully vaccianted and

suffered because of it. As a result I have not given my second son any

and the other day he got bitten by a dog and my ped really put heavy

pressure on me to give a tetanus shot so after much crying and thought

I went back and asked to see the material that comes with the shot

before giving it to him. They all looked at me like I was nuts and

after reading for about a minute there it was thermisnol-mercury and

both nurse and doc looked shocked but said it is a very low dose and

would be fine and I walked out. My problem is I am expecting another

in a month and really need to find a doctor who will not pressure or

make me feel like the worst mother in the world for not giving

vaccines. I live in Manorville, NY and I am willing to travel. MY

older son sees a DAN doctor about 45 minutes away but would really

like to find someone closer but would love your input. Thanks,

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First case tetnaus does nothing for rabies. Which is what you get

from animal bites. And any doc that tells me that " it's only a

little bit of mercury " is in my opinion very ignorant or skipped

basic chemistry in college. I too am in NY, but upstate. I have a

great Ped, she does not pressure us to do anything. And has no

problem with us not vaccinating. Stick to your guns! After all,

these people are not the ones who bear the burden of the damage our

kids end up with.

My doc is not anywhere near you guys. But I would get out that phone

book and start looking for a more flexible practice or even a

holistic physician, they will treat your children too.

>

> Hi my name is Theresa and my first son was fully vaccianted and

> suffered because of it. As a result I have not given my second son

any

> and the other day he got bitten by a dog and my ped really put

heavy

> pressure on me to give a tetanus shot so after much crying and

thought

> I went back and asked to see the material that comes with the shot

> before giving it to him. They all looked at me like I was nuts and

> after reading for about a minute there it was thermisnol-mercury

and

> both nurse and doc looked shocked but said it is a very low dose

and

> would be fine and I walked out. My problem is I am expecting

another

> in a month and really need to find a doctor who will not pressure

or

> make me feel like the worst mother in the world for not giving

> vaccines. I live in Manorville, NY and I am willing to travel. MY

> older son sees a DAN doctor about 45 minutes away but would really

> like to find someone closer but would love your input. Thanks,

>

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> and the other day he got bitten by a dog and my ped really put heavy

> pressure on me to give a tetanus shot

If you believe some sort of tetanus remedy is important, require

immune globulin instead

http://www.mothering.com/sections/experts/tenpenny-archive.html#tetanus

Did the wound bleed? If so, tetanus is usually not a problem.

> I went back and asked to see the material that comes with the shot

> before giving it to him. They all looked at me like I was nuts and

> after reading for about a minute there it was thermisnol-mercury and

> both nurse and doc looked shocked but said it is a very low dose and

> would be fine and I walked out.

Good for you!

>> My problem is I am expecting another

> in a month and really need to find a doctor who will not pressure or

> make me feel like the worst mother in the world for not giving

> vaccines.

Try contacting holistic doctors, or chiropractors.

Dana

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In a message dated 10/19/2006 7:31:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

paxlforme@... writes:

in a month and really need to find a doctor who will not pressure

or

> make me feel like the worst mother in the world for not giving

> vaccines. I live in Manorville, NY and I am willing to travel. MY

> older son sees a DAN doctor about 45 minutes away but would really

> like to find someone closer but would love your input. Thanks,

>

My pediatrician's office is in Wading River. They told me they have never

told a patient they will no longer be their doctors office anymore, or sent

anyone papers like I've heard about, but they did say " be prepared for a

lecture. " A lecture is fine with me. I have my opinion and will express it to

you

if you are willing to listen, and I will gladly listen to yours. If we can

agree to disagree that is fine with me. I love them.

Email me at _ratlenhum@..._ (mailto:ratlenhum@...) and I will get

their information to you

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