Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 and all Some people have adverse response to DLPA. But, tolerate the "d" form of phenylalanine.. http://www.aminoacidpower.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=3_23 & products_id=171 Be careful when self treating with amino acids, please. Although they are not contraindicated with LDN, they are powerful substances. Read The Mood Cure, Ross and The Edge Effect, Braverman, for some good information. mjh Posted by: "Dudley Delany" DudleyDelany@... dudley_delany Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:54 am (PST) Hi ,Dr. Bihari recommended DL-Phenylalanine as a helpful adjunct to LDN. It is a combination of the two naturally occuring amino acids, D- and L-Phenylalanine. Its use with LDN is discussed in more detail here:See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Gisele, Isn't that a seizure medication? Have you looked into Taurine? Alana > > I successfully weaned off a narcotic so to begin LDN...but didn't > experience much improvement. My doctor then requested I wean off of > the Klonopin I've been on for years. I am miserable! I am taking 1 > less pill a week...and am down to 4 a week- but think this may be too > aggressive given the crying spells, shakiness, depression symptoms > etc. Any advice? I of course will be talking with my doctor > today...but thought it'd be helpful to hear how others have weaned off > this med. > > Thanks- Gisele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi Gisele, For what condition are you taking LDN? Klonopin does not appear on the list of drugs to avoid when taking LDN at http://tinyurl.com/yv4a3k Best regards, Dudley Delany dudley_delany [low dose naltrexone] Has anyone weaned off of Klonopin? I successfully weaned off a narcotic so to begin LDN...but didn't experience much improvement. My doctor then requested I wean off of the Klonopin I've been on for years. I am miserable! I am taking 1 less pill a week...and am down to 4 a week- but think this may be too aggressive given the crying spells, shakiness, depression symptoms etc. Any advice? I of course will be talking with my doctor today...but thought it'd be helpful to hear how others have weaned off this med. Thanks- Gisele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi Gisele - I had to wean off Halcion (a hypnotic but also a benzo as Klonopin is) a little over a year ago. It can be a challenging experience but must be done very slowly and with a professional helping you. There is a website I found helpful which goes through what to expect when weaning, how much to wean, etc. Don't let the extreme cases scare you, people successfully go off these drugs all the time. I referred to the site often: www.benzo.org.uk It might be helpful if your doctor could run neurotransmitter tests and maybe integrate some amino acids to help balance things out while you are weaning off and help take the edge off a bit. If not, it can still be done. There is an end in sight to the bumpy journey you may experience. I am glad I am off my med so the LDN can work on its own. I think Dr. Bihari recommended certain aminos as well but I don't know much about it. The more experienced LDN users know more about this than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi , Dr. Bihari recommended DL-Phenylalanine as a helpful adjunct to LDN. It is a combination of the two naturally occuring amino acids, D- and L-Phenylalanine. Its use with LDN is discussed in more detail here: http://tinyurl.com/2p57xv Best regards, Dudley Delany dudley_delany [low dose naltrexone] Re: Has anyone weaned off of Klonopin? Hi Gisele - I had to wean off Halcion (a hypnotic but also a benzo as Klonopin is) a little over a year ago. It can be a challenging experience but must be done very slowly and with a professional helping you. There is a website I found helpful which goes through what to expect when weaning, how much to wean, etc. Don't let the extreme cases scare you, people successfully go off these drugs all the time. I referred to the site often: www.benzo.org.uk It might be helpful if your doctor could run neurotransmitter tests and maybe integrate some amino acids to help balance things out while you are weaning off and help take the edge off a bit. If not, it can still be done. There is an end in sight to the bumpy journey you may experience. I am glad I am off my med so the LDN can work on its own. I think Dr. Bihari recommended certain aminos as well but I don't know much about it. The more experienced LDN users know more about this than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Klonopin also helps people that have MS for Temors, Pain and Spacticity.... Hugs & Blessings, Crystal LDN_Users Group Owner Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website Crystal's LDN Gift Shop Crystal's LDN Support Group Skip's Compounding Pharmacy [low dose naltrexone] Re: Has anyone weaned off of Klonopin? Gisele,Isn't that a seizure medication?Have you looked into Taurine?Alana>> I successfully weaned off a narcotic so to begin LDN...but didn't> experience much improvement. My doctor then requested I wean off of> the Klonopin I've been on for years. I am miserable! I am taking 1> less pill a week...and am down to 4 a week- but think this may be too> aggressive given the crying spells, shakiness, depression symptoms> etc. Any advice? I of course will be talking with my doctor> today...but thought it'd be helpful to hear how others have weaned off> this med.> > Thanks- Gisele> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Here is a list of medications you can take for MS, like Klonopin - http://www.webmd.com/multiple-sclerosis/multiple-sclerosis-medications?src=rss_homecare Hugs & Blessings, Crystal LDN_Users Group Owner Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy..... Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website Crystal's LDN Gift Shop Crystal's LDN Support Group Skip's Compounding Pharmacy [low dose naltrexone] Has anyone weaned off of Klonopin?I successfully weaned off a narcotic so to begin LDN...but didn'texperience much improvement. My doctor then requested I wean off ofthe Klonopin I've been on for years. I am miserable! I am taking 1less pill a week...and am down to 4 a week- but think this may be tooaggressive given the crying spells, shakiness, depression symptomsetc. Any advice? I of course will be talking with my doctortoday...but thought it'd be helpful to hear how others have weaned offthis med.Thanks- Gisele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi MJH - I'm under the care of 2 docs who suggested the L-theanine to me, in the larger doses as well. I can't do any phenylalanine - it puts me into a rage. The L-theanine is one of the safest aminos to take from what I am told. There can be problems self-medicating with some of them though. There seems to be an opinion out there that says if you're low in serotonin you're also low in GABA. This is not so - my serotonin was tanked and my GABA very high. This seems to be a common combo in some who run high with anxiety. This is where I sought out assistance when I weaned off the sleep med. I've only read Braverman, thanks for the other suggestions! cathy > > and all > > Some people have adverse response to DLPA. But, tolerate the " d " form of > phenylalanine.. > > _http://www.aminoacidpower.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=3_23 & products_id=171 > _ > (http://www.aminoacidpower.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=3_23 & products_id=171) > > Be careful when self treating with amino acids, please. Although they are > not contraindicated with LDN, they are powerful substances. > > Read The Mood Cure, Ross and The Edge Effect, Braverman, for some good > information. > > mjh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Did not realize Klonopin was a benzodiazepine. If it is, wouldn't niacinamide help to wean off it? My theory being that if niacinamide works on the same receptor sites as the benzos, wouldn't that help get someone off? Also, I think Taurine is a calming neurotransmiter. I am sure I have heard of it's use in epilepsy. So, would that help the weaning process, too? I will try to look into these further. Alana > > Hi Gisele - > > I had to wean off Halcion (a hypnotic but also a benzo as Klonopin is) > a little over a year ago. It can be a challenging experience but must > be done very slowly and with a professional helping you. There is a > website I found helpful which goes through what to expect when > weaning, how much to wean, etc. Don't let the extreme cases scare you, > people successfully go off these drugs all the time. I referred to the > site often: www.benzo.org.uk > > It might be helpful if your doctor could run neurotransmitter tests > and maybe integrate some amino acids to help balance things out while > you are weaning off and help take the edge off a bit. If not, it can > still be done. There is an end in sight to the bumpy journey you may > experience. I am glad I am off my med so the LDN can work on its own. > > I think Dr. Bihari recommended certain aminos as well but I don't know > much about it. The more experienced LDN users know more about this > than me. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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