Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 How much does Child #1 weigh? Anne > > Child # 1 is now taking 50 mg dmsa/ala and completed round 13. He has only > had two rounds of ala. We upped the dosage last weekend and didn't notice > anything other than a very extended awake cycle. He has a look in his eyes > now like he is trapped and wants to come out sometimes, and not just the > vacant stare. He has gone out of the house a few times this week. He has > developed in the two to three weeks we have been using ALA, ridges going in > a downward direction, on his finger nails. I do not know if this is > significant....the owner of the healthfood store said that it could be > arsenic coming out of his body causing the ridges on his fingernails. > > We got my dh's hairtest back and he is off of the charts red on antimony and > cadmium, with moderately high lead... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Child #1 weighs 152 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 I have also heard that ridges in the finger nails can zinc deficiency, though I don't know for sure. Anne > > Child #1 weighs 152 lbs. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Don't want to freak you out, but those ridge in your nails are VERY common in people with lyme disease. My doctor looked at my nails for those when I went for my first appt. with the lyme doctor. Just have to add....many moms are suceptible to biotoxin illnesses and when the ASD kid is tested, they are too. I have chronic lyme and my ASD kid was tested and he also has lyme that he contracted from me in-utero. E-mail me off group if you want more info. Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 -I have ridges in my nails that have been there as long as the mercury. This could be a secondary cause, as mercury may inhibit zinc. But no matter what vitamins/minerals I have taken, they have never gone away. Some people tell me calcium. Mine is fine. Some said protein, I am not deficient. The only link I seem to come up with is the presence of arsenic or mercury. Both cause longitudal ridges in the nails. If anyone know a definite cause...I would be grateful for the information. -- In , " anneecbrynn " <abrynn@...> wrote: > > I have also heard that ridges in the finger nails can zinc deficiency, > though I don't know for sure. > > Anne > > > > > > Child #1 weighs 152 lbs. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 >>He has > developed in the two to three weeks we have been using ALA, ridges going in > a downward direction, on his finger nails. I do not know if this is > significant....the owner of the healthfood store said that it could be > arsenic coming out of his body causing the ridges on his fingernails. I have three links on my site that I used to diagnose one of my son's remaining problems. Hopefully something here will help you also http://www.skinatlas.com/nails.htm http://dermnetnz.org/hair-nails-sweat/nails.html http://www.pathlights.com/nr_encyclopedia/03extr02.htm The first two have pictures, the third just has descriptions. However, the third was actually more helpful for me. > We got my dh's hairtest back and he is off of the charts red on antimony and > cadmium, with moderately high lead... Consider removing current sources of exposures, especially antimony http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 , First, I want to say how exciting it is to see the progress your son has made. I have followed your updates and watched the video you posted a while back. So many big changes! This has a huge impact on your whole family. Lots of adjustments, I'll bet! You are a *hero* for all the work you're doing to help him (including fighting the intermodal). In reply to your questions: > friends, just no chelation. I wanted to check and see if this is an > ok thing...to go five weeks in between rounds? I looked back at his hair test. He met the counting rules, so he is mercury toxic as well as lead toxic and probably others. You'll need to keep chelating for awhile. You want to eventually get him off the supps - you need a lot more chelation to get him to that point. Just staying on the supps without chelating will reduce the progression of damage due to metal toxicity, but it will not stop it. > DMSA. I was wondering if it would be ok to just use ALA for a while, > and skip the dmsa? Both DMSA and ALA chelate mercury. Keep using DMSA for the lead. It is unknown whether ALA chelates lead. I would keep doing DMSA at least once per month. I was wondering what the chances were, that in five > months he had chelated all of his lead? Not likely. Lead gets stored in the bones and it continues to slowly release into the circulation for a long time. You need to use DMSA at least once a month for a few years to chelate the lead as it slowly comes out of the bones. Since we aren't doing > testing, it would just be a guess. I have several bottles of ala > left. I was thinking the bare essentials for our son would be vit C, > which I have 2lbs of, calcium (low), magnesium (low), selineum, zinc > (out), clo (have), vit e, enzymes (I have), candex (low)...milk > thistle (out of), and ALA. Does this sound like the basics to continue? These plus B complex would make it the bare minimum. You would be wise to include some other minerals. At least, add some molybdenum. His hair test indicated he could use some lithium. Even if you see no signs of deficiency now, you need to be alert to potential problems cropping up with other minerals as well. > I also wanted to know, after seeing so many gains from chelation, if > we did stop for a while, what would happen? Would we expect to see > regression? Would all gains be lost? I'm sure we are not the first > to face this situation...what happens to people who don't finish? I I think you would see regression - perhaps not immediate and not a total loss of gains if he stays on the supps. However, lead will keep pouring out of his bones and he needs to chelate that at least once a month. You need to get rid of the mercury, too. Even though he seems much more functional, the longer the mercury and lead (and whatever else) are there, the more damage they can do. You need to chelate a lot to really get him well and keep him well. If you have good reason to stop for a month or so, that may be informative about how often he needs to chelate. But if you don't see regression, don't assume everything is fine. He is very toxic and needs lots more chelation. > senario. We had to move and could not afford chelation, the next best > thing would be getting to a naturopath. I have heard that they align > the body so that it can detox on its own, and that the treatment can > compliment chelation. I'll bet that the really toxic people could > benefit from both chelation and a naturopath. Does anyone have > experience with this? Also thinking is that maybe our youngest child > who just needs a small amount of chelation could possible chelate on > her own with just a naturopath and a healthy diet. There is no natural way to chelate. I went to a naturopathic doc for a few years before chelating. She did help me a lot with liver/kidney/gut support (detox pathways), as well helping with lots of symptoms (hormones, sleep, anxiety, depression, etc), but I was still pretty toxic after all that. Besides I can't imagine how it would be cheaper to go to a naturopath! You can do this a lot more cheaply on your own. -- > > Child #1 is still doing great. Age 17, 152 lbs. He has bathed every > week, rinsed his mouth daily, washed his hands daily, and now is > reading the manual to take his drivers test. We all went on the SCD > diet, which costs more. I told him that the only way he could cheat > on the diet would be to drive and get the food himself, with a permit, > and one of us in the car. It takes 50 hours of driving with a licenced > driver to get a licence, and that is a lot of hours out of the house > and in a car for him. So, we have stopped all cheating with > enzymes....unless he wants to drive for it. > > He went 5 weeks in between chelation when he went over and stayed at a > friends again. He seemed to have only a mild regression with that. He > took his supplements and he took his enzymes religiously while at his > friends, just no chelation. I wanted to check and see if this is an > ok thing...to go five weeks in between rounds? He is eating many new > foods, like different fruits. He worked on his computer problems for > days and almost got it worked out, by himself. Neil, I was impressed > with that (if you are reading this). > > We have a complication to our chelation. We found out that they might > be putting a heavy industrialized area a mile away from our house. It > is kind of tricky because it is the railroad. They aren't covered by > the infinate domain law because in this particular situation because > they don't just want to put an intermodal in, but a huge industrial > facility with 3rd party development. > > There is a fight going on in our town to keep this out because of the > air pollution, trucks, and crime it would bring. They have a website > www.nointermodal.com The intermodal will come if we don't fight, and > there is just a small group fighting it, with so far 2,200 who have > signed petitions against it. We had 1,400 vote in the last election, > and 1,200 registered voters who signed the petition against. I was > working two pt. time jobs to pay for our son's chelation, but I quit > them a month ago to help fight the intermodal. I am going to be a > sponsor for the recall of our mayor and one city council member over > the next month, and then I hope the battle is won enough that I might > be able to get another job....in the inbetween time I might be running > out of things and running low on some supplements. > > I am trying to think of the bare bones of chelation for a while, until > the fight for this intermodal is over. If the intermodal comes in, > our concern is that we could be displaced from our home. Property > values could go down 20% making us owe more than our home is worth and > not be able to sell it. Those are the concerns that made me think > that fighting the intermodal would come before chelation. Tough > decision. One I don't even know that I can follow through with. We > moved to this town because it had the best air, very low pollution, > and we could breathe here. Several in our family have chemical > sensitivity, and can't live by heavy industry. I was thinking what was > the point of chelating when they were trying to build a heavy > industrial area right by our house? > > My son tested high for lead. He has chelated for five months, four of > those being every week, with DMSA. Three months have been with ALA and > DMSA. I was wondering if it would be ok to just use ALA for a while, > and skip the dmsa? I was wondering what the chances were, that in five > months he had chelated all of his lead? Since we aren't doing > testing, it would just be a guess. I have several bottles of ala > left. I was thinking the bare essentials for our son would be vit C, > which I have 2lbs of, calcium (low), magnesium (low), selineum, zinc > (out), clo (have), vit e, enzymes (I have), candex (low)...milk > thistle (out of), and ALA. Does this sound like the basics to continue? > > I also wanted to know, after seeing so many gains from chelation, if > we did stop for a while, what would happen? Would we expect to see > regression? Would all gains be lost? I'm sure we are not the first > to face this situation...what happens to people who don't finish? I > couldn't bear to lose all these gains. At that point, I would do the > recall sponsoring, then go get another job. > > We have a 4 or 5 man heavenly heat sauna, that maybe I could return, > or sell. We have had it for a year and it hasn't aired out, and we > are heat intolerant. I was going to keep it until we were no longer > heat intolerant. If we returned/sold the sauna to pay for the > chelation and going to a naturopath (we would all have to travel 12 > hours or so from Kansas City to a good classical naturopath). My > thinking on those lines was that if plan B happened, worst case > senario. We had to move and could not afford chelation, the next best > thing would be getting to a naturopath. I have heard that they align > the body so that it can detox on its own, and that the treatment can > compliment chelation. I'll bet that the really toxic people could > benefit from both chelation and a naturopath. Does anyone have > experience with this? Also thinking is that maybe our youngest child > who just needs a small amount of chelation could possible chelate on > her own with just a naturopath and a healthy diet. > > I would really appreciate your imput. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 , Isn't it amazing what Chelation can do ? Yes, I am here and following your progress, and I am very happy things are going well for him. As I said before, I am most happy to answer any computer questions you might have or help any way I can. Regarding your Chelation question, you are the final authority on treatment, but here are my thoughts. Most of the Supplements you have are good, if you plan to continue, make sure to add E's. If you are dealing with Lead, then I suggest continuing with DMSA as much as possible, mixing I the ALA is good in that you get the liver support as well as a boost in removing Mercury. I just read the technical paper that Mark send the link on and it seems to suggest that ProBiotics are quite important as well. Good luck with your battle, it's hard to beat the system ! Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 That's awsome! I was just wondering how far your son has progressed since he was in his early teens. My son is 13 and just about to start chelation. I don't hear from many parents with older kids and was just wondering how much this has helped him progress from a few years ago. ( I know it's more optomistic when they are under 5, so I'm very curious to hear about older kids.) Any info you have would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Carla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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