Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Tom, My son did exactly that and ran in circles from ages 2-4. When he was 4 or so we stopped it by stopping him. We kept interupting him. We stopped him, held him and told him NO EEEEEEEE. Eventually, this went away. At that point we did not treat him biologically just lots of speech therapy and ABA. I have no idea what causes the vocal stims -- viruses etc. but would like to know. ryansdad1998 <ryansdad1998@...> wrote: Hi all, My 7 year old son has been experiencing loud vocal stims ('EEEEEEEE'!) and humming accompanied with hyperactivity for about a year now. He had had the same vocal stims when he was about 3 years old, but they went away for the most part until last year. I would guess that these stims are being caused by some sort of pathogen (EBV, Measles, CMV, HHV6, Lyme? - pick one!), but I have never done blood tests for viral antibodies. Have any other parents experienced this or know of a way to address this problem? Thank you for any help! Tom ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 My daughter (ADHD, 6.5rys) does this also. She has outbursts and screaching of random sounds, high pitched. It drives me crazy. I have asked her why she does it and of course, she doesn't know. It seems that she goes through periods where it happens often and then she seems to do better, then she starts again. I have just started to look into the viral issue so I don't know yet... Hope you get some good feedback. > > Hi all, > > My 7 year old son has been experiencing loud vocal stims ('EEEEEEEE'!) > and humming accompanied with hyperactivity for about a year now. He > had had the same vocal stims when he was about 3 years old, but they > went away for the most part until last year. I would guess that these > stims are being caused by some sort of pathogen (EBV, Measles, CMV, > HHV6, Lyme? - pick one!), but I have never done blood tests for viral > antibodies. Have any other parents experienced this or know of a way > to address this problem? > > Thank you for any help! > Tom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 To add more to what I said: I theorize -- and don't KNOW -- that this stimming is because an innocent child has been mercury poisoned. He wants to play because he's a young boy but he is not able to function like other kids (cognitive abilities, socialization etc.). He can not function because mercury and other heavy metals are in his brain. So what does he do to have fun? -- he does what he CAN do -- he runs in circles and says EEEEEE. These are wonderful and bright kids who have been screwed by big pharma criminals. The answer in my opinion is to treat for mercury toxicity doing what the folks here do -- get the poison out first -- via CHELATION. Also, speech therapy, ABA etc. Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote: Tom, My son did exactly that and ran in circles from ages 2-4. When he was 4 or so we stopped it by stopping him. We kept interupting him. We stopped him, held him and told him NO EEEEEEEE. Eventually, this went away. At that point we did not treat him biologically just lots of speech therapy and ABA. I have no idea what causes the vocal stims -- viruses etc. but would like to know. ryansdad1998 <ryansdad1998@...> wrote: Hi all, My 7 year old son has been experiencing loud vocal stims ('EEEEEEEE'!) and humming accompanied with hyperactivity for about a year now. He had had the same vocal stims when he was about 3 years old, but they went away for the most part until last year. I would guess that these stims are being caused by some sort of pathogen (EBV, Measles, CMV, HHV6, Lyme? - pick one!), but I have never done blood tests for viral antibodies. Have any other parents experienced this or know of a way to address this problem? Thank you for any help! Tom ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 To add more to what I said: I theorize -- and don't KNOW -- that this stimming is because an innocent child has been mercury poisoned. He wants to play because he's a young boy but he is not able to function like other kids (cognitive abilities, socialization etc.). He can not function because mercury and other heavy metals are in his brain. So what does he do to have fun? -- he does what he CAN do -- he runs in circles and says EEEEEE. These are wonderful and bright kids who have been screwed by big pharma criminals. The answer in my opinion is to treat for mercury toxicity doing what the folks here do -- get the poison out first -- via CHELATION. Also, speech therapy, ABA etc. Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote: Tom, My son did exactly that and ran in circles from ages 2-4. When he was 4 or so we stopped it by stopping him. We kept interupting him. We stopped him, held him and told him NO EEEEEEEE. Eventually, this went away. At that point we did not treat him biologically just lots of speech therapy and ABA. I have no idea what causes the vocal stims -- viruses etc. but would like to know. ryansdad1998 <ryansdad1998@...> wrote: Hi all, My 7 year old son has been experiencing loud vocal stims ('EEEEEEEE'!) and humming accompanied with hyperactivity for about a year now. He had had the same vocal stims when he was about 3 years old, but they went away for the most part until last year. I would guess that these stims are being caused by some sort of pathogen (EBV, Measles, CMV, HHV6, Lyme? - pick one!), but I have never done blood tests for viral antibodies. Have any other parents experienced this or know of a way to address this problem? Thank you for any help! Tom ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Tom, What else is going on in his environment when he does his vocal stims? Is it noisy, crowded? Does he do it in various different locations (home, yard, mall, car, school or preschool, etc)? Does he only do it around certain people? Does he do it at particular times of day (after meals? first thing in the morning? transition times? bedtime? 2 am?) Many on the spectrum have sensory hypersensitivity so he may be doing it to drown out noises which we don't notice but which drive him nuts, or fluorescent lights (they cycle) so it's like strobe lights to someone who's sensitive, or if people in his life smell of detergent, deordorant, perfume, cologne, cigarette smoke, cleaning supplies that may be a factor. He may have food or environmental allergies which cause sensations (headaches, etc) he doesn't know how else to deal with. Is he on a special diet? Does he have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? When was his last vaccine? Have there been renovations in the home or school recently? Does he have a new mattress? Can he talk or otherwise communicate? Have you asked him, nonjudgmentally, why he does the stims? S S _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Abid, , and - thank you for your responses. Since is mostly non-verbal, I can't ask him why he makes the stimming sound. We have tried to interrupt him while he makes the sound, but a few seconds later he will continue making the sound again. - makes the sound only at home for the most part, but he will on occasion do it outside of the house (e.g., at a restaurant). My first guess is that the stim is caused by a pathogen (s), but my second guess would be that it's environmental, as you say. This could be due to undetected mold within the walls, or even the effects of that wonderful cell phone tower that's located about 800 feet from the house (electromagnetic sensitivity). has never had amalgam fillings and we stopped the vaccinations after the MMR when he was 15 months old (15 months too late!). If I find anything that stops or even reduces the stims, I will let the board know. Thanks again, Tom > > Hi all, > > My 7 year old son has been experiencing loud vocal stims ('EEEEEEEE'!) > and humming accompanied with hyperactivity for about a year now. He > had had the same vocal stims when he was about 3 years old, but they > went away for the most part until last year. I would guess that these > stims are being caused by some sort of pathogen (EBV, Measles, CMV, > HHV6, Lyme? - pick one!), but I have never done blood tests for viral > antibodies. Have any other parents experienced this or know of a way > to address this problem? > > Thank you for any help! > Tom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 When did the cell phone tower go in? S S Abid, , and - thank you for your responses. <BR> Since is mostly non-verbal, I can't ask him why he makes the <BR> stimming sound. We have tried to interrupt him while he makes the <BR> sound, but a few seconds later he will continue making the sound <BR> again. <BR> - makes the sound only at home for the most part, but he <BR> will on occasion do it outside of the house (e.g., at a <BR> restaurant). My first guess is that the stim is caused by a pathogen<BR> (s), but my second guess would be that it's environmental, as you <BR> say. This could be due to undetected mold within the walls, or even <BR> the effects of that wonderful cell phone tower that's located about <BR> 800 feet from the house (electromagnetic sensitivity). <BR> has never had amalgam fillings and we stopped the vaccinations <BR> after the MMR when he was 15 months old (15 months too late!). <BR> If I find anything that stops or even reduces the stims, I will let <BR> the board know.<BR> <BR> Thanks again,<BR> Tom<BR> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 > My 7 year old son has been experiencing loud vocal stims ('EEEEEEEE'!) > and humming accompanied with hyperactivity for about a year now. He > had had the same vocal stims when he was about 3 years old, but they > went away for the most part until last year. This was one of my son's yeast symptoms. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 > > Hi all, > > My 7 year old son has been experiencing loud vocal stims ('EEEEEEEE'!) > and humming accompanied with hyperactivity for about a year now. He > had had the same vocal stims when he was about 3 years old, but they > went away for the most part until last year. I would guess that these > stims are being caused by some sort of pathogen (EBV, Measles, CMV, > HHV6, Lyme? - pick one!), but I have never done blood tests for viral > antibodies. Have any other parents experienced this or know of a way > to address this problem? Hyperactivity and vocal stims (repeating the same phrase over and over, hooting, complusive mouth noises) were viral symptoms for my son (EBV, possibly varicella). I suggest taking a look at the viral file for this list, using onibasu to search for more detail, and then coming back with whatever questions you have. Treatment with Virastop got rid of all symptoms...although I'm finding I need to re-treat every year or so. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 This is such great news Nell! I'm not going to read one more post tonight because I want to think only about n the artist in the beret and a smile :-) I'm sure other people feel the same way, but right now I'm up to my ass in pills and powders and your inspiring post lets me be happy about that fact instead of & ((%#$$*%%. Thanks, Anita This has been my experience too. Even things that seemed logically to > require a different kind of therapy -- OT for handwriting, for example > -- did not respond to anything but pills or powders. > > Today was n's 2nd grade class play. He was onstage wearing my > beret, playing the part of an artist. All during the play he was > smiling and interested in what was going on. He forgot one of his > lines but recovered with no problem, no freak-out. In years past, > whenever he had to do *anything in front of a group, his misery was > palapable. You could see waves of misery rising off him, his facial > expression was deeply sorrowful, and he spoke in a barely audible > wooden monotone. That has completely gone away now. I'd have thought > it would take much teaching and talking and practice....but no, it was > just the pills and powders. > > Nell > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 > I'm sure other people feel the same way, but right now I'm up to my > ass in pills and powders and your inspiring post lets me be happy > about that fact instead of & ((%#$$*%%. Thanks Anita . It really has been amazing to see how useless all that teaching was -- I kind of cringe now, remembering how I used to grab his wrist and make him wave. Not that that taught him *anything . But 4 months into chelation and he was waving hello and good bye without a word from me. Pills and powders! Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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