Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

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OK I HAVE A QUESTION to all you "LOSERS" out there, it just hit me.

Are you SMOKERS??? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

This is my weight(s) since Day 1:

Started 4/17/03 at 135 lbs

11/03 124 lbs, down 11

11/04 127 lbs, stable

07/05 114 lbs, another drop, down 21 from start, following 2 weeks camping in high heat

03/06 110 lbs, following split from my family, eating 'healthier', down 25 from start

04/26/06 108 lbs, the day I QUIT SMOKING CIGARETTES, down 27

05/06 129 lbs, 2 weeks of no cigarettes, down only 6 from start, up 21 lbs in TWO weeks

09/06 133 lbs, down only 2 lbs from start

09/07 132 lbs

Today 131 lbs, Stablized at this level.

If you ALL are cigarette smokers and are losing weight, then it's not the LDN, but the nicotine, that LDN is helping "DO" what "it" does, suppresses appetite.

I had to change my diet again when my friend said since I quit smoking I was eating a LOT more than I did before.

Nowadays I do get hungry but can still go without for a while, if I'm busy online, time just flies.

So the question is, if you're Losing on LDN, are you a cig smoker

and if you're one of the ones who claim to be gaining, are you NOT a cig smoker, and just are Enjoying your Meals????

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN

I have had a similar side effect. I started out at 115 and in 4 months, I am down to 106. I was talking to my husband about the potential of it being the LDN. I still eat my normal meals, which have always been healthy, but I don't have the urge to "stress" eat. When I was younger, I had an eating disorder(anorexia and bulimia) and wondered IF LDN is suppose to help heroine addicts get over their addiction, could LDN have a similar effect on eating disorders.

With the holidays, I'm not complaining about the weight loss yet. Also, if anyone is thinking it could be other health issues, I have been completely check out by my PCP with blood work etc.

Have a great weekend everyone.

dx MS 2005

5 months LDN and feeling great!

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Not a smoker. Never have been.

Judy

From: LarryGC <larrygc@...>

Reply-<low dose naltrexone >

Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:57:29 -0500

<low dose naltrexone >

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

OK I HAVE A QUESTION to all you " LOSERS " out there, it just hit me.

Are you SMOKERS??? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

This is my weight(s) since Day 1:

Started 4/17/03 at 135 lbs

11/03 124 lbs, down 11

11/04 127 lbs, stable

07/05 114 lbs, another drop, down 21 from start, following 2 weeks camping in high heat

03/06 110 lbs, following split from my family, eating 'healthier', down 25 from start

04/26/06 108 lbs, the day I QUIT SMOKING CIGARETTES, down 27

05/06 129 lbs, 2 weeks of no cigarettes, down only 6 from start, up 21 lbs in TWO weeks

09/06 133 lbs, down only 2 lbs from start

09/07 132 lbs

Today 131 lbs, Stablized at this level.

If you ALL are cigarette smokers and are losing weight, then it's not the LDN, but the nicotine, that LDN is helping " DO " what " it " does, suppresses appetite.

I had to change my diet again when my friend said since I quit smoking I was eating a LOT more than I did before.

Nowadays I do get hungry but can still go without for a while, if I'm busy online, time just flies.

So the question is, if you're Losing on LDN, are you a cig smoker

and if you're one of the ones who claim to be gaining, are you NOT a cig smoker, and just are Enjoying your Meals????

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN

I have had a similar side effect. I started out at 115 and in 4 months, I am down to 106. I was talking to my husband about the potential of it being the LDN. I still eat my normal meals, which have always been healthy, but I don't have the urge to " stress " eat. When I was younger, I had an eating disorder(anorexia and bulimia) and wondered IF LDN is suppose to help heroine addicts get over their addiction, could LDN have a similar effect on eating disorders.

With the holidays, I'm not complaining about the weight loss yet. Also, if anyone is thinking it could be other health issues, I have been completely check out by my PCP with blood work etc.

Have a great weekend everyone.

dx MS 2005

5 months LDN and feeling great!

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Nope...never have. Marcie Judy and Jon Rudin <jrudin@...> wrote: Not a smoker. Never have been.Judy From: LarryGC <larrygclarrygc>Reply-<low dose naltrexone >Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:57:29 -0500To:

<low dose naltrexone >Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey OK I HAVE A QUESTION to all you "LOSERS" out there, it just hit me.Are you SMOKERS??? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<This is my weight(s) since Day 1:Started 4/17/03 at 135 lbs11/03 124 lbs, down 1111/04 127 lbs, stable07/05 114 lbs, another drop, down 21 from start, following 2 weeks camping in high heat03/06 110 lbs, following split from my family, eating 'healthier', down 25

from start04/26/06 108 lbs, the day I QUIT SMOKING CIGARETTES, down 2705/06 129 lbs, 2 weeks of no cigarettes, down only 6 from start, up 21 lbs in TWO weeks09/06 133 lbs, down only 2 lbs from start09/07 132 lbsToday 131 lbs, Stablized at this level.If you ALL are cigarette smokers and are losing weight, then it's not the LDN, but the nicotine, that LDN is helping "DO" what "it" does, suppresses appetite.I had to change my diet again when my friend said since I quit smoking I was eating a LOT more than I did before.Nowadays I do get hungry but can still go without for a while, if I'm busy online, time just flies. So the question is, if you're Losing on LDN, are you a cig smokerand if you're one of the ones who claim to be gaining, are you NOT a cig smoker, and just are Enjoying your Meals???? [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN I have had a similar side effect. I started out at 115 and in 4

months, I am down to 106. I was talking to my husband about the potential of it being the LDN. I still eat my normal meals, which have always been healthy, but I don't have the urge to "stress" eat. When I was younger, I had an eating disorder(anorexia and bulimia) and wondered IF LDN is suppose to help heroine addicts get over their addiction, could LDN have a similar effect on eating disorders. With the holidays, I'm not complaining about the weight loss yet. Also, if anyone is thinking it could be other health issues, I have been completely check out by my PCP with blood work etc. Have a great weekend everyone. dx MS 2005 5 months LDN and feeling great! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find

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I've never even had 1 cigarette. I am highly allergic to smoke.

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AND?

are you a Gainer

or a Loser?

Was a question for those who either are losing a lot of weight, or gaining.

I don't care who smokes or doesn't, unless they're gaining or losing.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey OK I HAVE A QUESTION to all you "LOSERS" out there, it just hit me.Are you SMOKERS??? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

[Guest guest]

Never smoked, 110 lbs when started LDN, maybe 105 now (4 years later), don't get hungry...ever. Marcie LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote: AND? are you a Gainer or a Loser? Was a

question for those who either are losing a lot of weight, or gaining. I don't care who smokes or doesn't, unless they're gaining or losing. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey OK I HAVE A QUESTION to all you "LOSERS" out there, it just hit me.Are you SMOKERS???

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I haven’t lost weight - yet. I’ve been on LDN for about 10 days or so and notice that my appetite is significantly reduced and that I can’t finish my usual sized meals. If this keeps up, I’ll be a loser for sure!

:-) Judy

From: LarryGC <larrygc@...>

Reply-<low dose naltrexone >

Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:21:42 -0500

<low dose naltrexone >

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

AND?

are you a Gainer

or a Loser?

Was a question for those who either are losing a lot of weight, or gaining.

I don't care who smokes or doesn't, unless they're gaining or losing.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

OK I HAVE A QUESTION to all you " LOSERS " out there, it just hit me.

Are you SMOKERS??? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry!

I'm gaining, but not rapidly. I am a former smoker (quit 7 years

ago.) I think the reason I'm gaining has nothing to do with the LDN

or not smoking, however. I think my gain is probably more because

I'm just not as energetic as I was before MS and so I'm not as active

as I used to be and I haven't adjusted my caloric intake to match the

decrease in activity. In other words, I've got no one to blame but

myself!

>

> OK I HAVE A QUESTION to all you " LOSERS " out there, it just hit me.

>

> Are you SMOKERS??? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

>

> This is my weight(s) since Day 1:

>

> Started 4/17/03 at 135 lbs

> 11/03 124 lbs, down 11

> 11/04 127 lbs, stable

> 07/05 114 lbs, another drop, down 21 from start, following 2

weeks camping in high heat

> 03/06 110 lbs, following split from my family,

eating 'healthier', down 25 from start

> 04/26/06 108 lbs, the day I QUIT SMOKING CIGARETTES, down 27

> 05/06 129 lbs, 2 weeks of no cigarettes, down only 6 from start,

up 21 lbs in TWO weeks

> 09/06 133 lbs, down only 2 lbs from start

> 09/07 132 lbs

> Today 131 lbs, Stablized at this level.

>

> If you ALL are cigarette smokers and are losing weight, then it's

not the LDN, but the nicotine, that LDN is helping " DO " what " it "

does, suppresses appetite.

>

> I had to change my diet again when my friend said since I quit

smoking I was eating a LOT more than I did before.

>

> Nowadays I do get hungry but can still go without for a while, if

I'm busy online, time just flies.

>

>

> So the question is, if you're Losing on LDN, are you a cig smoker

>

> and if you're one of the ones who claim to be gaining, are you NOT

a cig smoker, and just are Enjoying your Meals????

>

>

>

>

> [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN

>

>

> I have had a similar side effect. I started out at 115 and in 4

months, I am down to 106. I was talking to my husband about the

potential of it being the LDN. I still eat my normal meals, which

have always been healthy, but I don't have the urge to " stress " eat.

When I was younger, I had an eating disorder(anorexia and bulimia)

and wondered IF LDN is suppose to help heroine addicts get over their

addiction, could LDN have a similar effect on eating disorders.

>

> With the holidays, I'm not complaining about the weight loss

yet. Also, if anyone is thinking it could be other health issues, I

have been completely check out by my PCP with blood work etc.

>

> Have a great weekend everyone.

>

>

> dx MS 2005

> 5 months LDN and feeling great!

>

>

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So you're LOSING a LOT of weight?

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

HI LARRY G - haven't smoked since 1991!!! so, smoking is not the culprit, in all cases!!

marshiris

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[Guest guest]

Never a smoker and when I started LDN I lost a significant amount of weight. I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years now and have leveled off but never did get back to the weight that i was before LDN. Although I am never hungry and don't eat nearly as much as I used to. That is a good thing.

Marie

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN

I have had a similar side effect. I started out at 115 and in 4 months, I am down to 106. I was talking to my husband about the potential of it being the LDN. I still eat my normal meals, which have always been healthy, but I don't have the urge to "stress" eat. When I was younger, I had an eating disorder(anorexia and bulimia) and wondered IF LDN is suppose to help heroine addicts get over their addiction, could LDN have a similar effect on eating disorders.

With the holidays, I'm not complaining about the weight loss yet. Also, if anyone is thinking it could be other health issues, I have been completely check out by my PCP with blood work etc.

Have a great weekend everyone.

dx MS 2005

5 months LDN and feeling great!

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[Guest guest]

I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. I

came across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in a

weight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug is

currently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.

What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for various

groups including naltrexone and placebo.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0\

e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdf

I haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don't

need to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Same here.

Alana

>>>> Not a smoker. Never have been.

>

> Judy

[Guest guest]

Here’s a thought. Could it be that those of us who are not eating as much now that we are on LDN were eating certain foods (like chocolate) for the endorphin effect? And now that we have more endorphins circulating in our systems because of the LDN, the urge to eat this stuff is simply diminished? I was eating lots of chocolate and sweets before, and while I still eat some, the amount is greatly reduced and the desire is barely there.

Judy

From: " elis.jones2007 " <macyjones@...>

Reply-<low dose naltrexone >

Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:04:37 -0000

<low dose naltrexone >

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. I

came across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in a

weight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug is

currently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.

What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for various

groups including naltrexone and placebo.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdf

I haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don't

need to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

I think you are on the right path there Judy. DLPA is advised for a number of people on LDN because it makes the endorphins last longer throughout the day. If you can't get DLPA, then Dr. Bihari would recommend eating chocolate for the same effect.

Aletha

(husband has MS for 3.25 years. Doing great for 3 years on LDN)

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. Icame across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in aweight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug iscurrently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for variousgroups including naltrexone and placebo.http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdfI haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don'tneed to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

I guess that is how everybody is different. I have hardly any appetite on LDN but I can always find room for sweets or ice cream. My husband is always upset with me cause I don't eat anything anymore. If I gave up sweets and ice cream I would drop so much weight.

Marie

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. Icame across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in aweight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug iscurrently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for variousgroups including naltrexone and placebo.http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdfI haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don'tneed to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Marie,

You just have good taste, that’s all! Who needs those fruits and veggies anyhow? Boring stuff – especially at this time of year.

Happy Holidays!

:-) Judy

From: Marie Deady <mardea346@...>

Reply-<low dose naltrexone >

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:21:20 -0500

<low dose naltrexone >

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

I guess that is how everybody is different. I have hardly any appetite on LDN but I can always find room for sweets or ice cream. My husband is always upset with me cause I don't eat anything anymore. If I gave up sweets and ice cream I would drop so much weight.

Marie

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. I

came across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in a

weight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug is

currently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.

What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for various

groups including naltrexone and placebo.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdf

I haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don't

need to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,I don't mean to rain on your parade, but...Dr J. McCandless suggests that, for best results, LDNers refrain from eating sugar, dairy, soy, and gluten (found in wheat, barley, rye, and oats).Best regards,Dudley Delany

dudley_delanyFrom: Marie Deady

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:21 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

I guess that is how everybody is different. I have hardly any appetite on LDN but I can always find room for sweets or ice cream. My husband is always upset with me cause I don't eat anything anymore. If I gave up sweets and ice cream I would drop so much weight.

Marie

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. Icame across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in aweight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug iscurrently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for variousgroups including naltrexone and placebo.http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdfI haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don'tneed to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Numerous doctors, especially holistic ones, will tell you to avoid those foods. Of course they’re right. It’s better to get rid of that stuff, but the question is how do you want to live? I was on highly restrictive, special diets for years after I began to pursue a more holistic way of dealing with my inflammation. I know for many people, that works, and I did feel better physically when I cut out all the fun stuff – but I really hated living that way. At a certain point, after years of total avoidance, I began bingeing on the “forbidden” foods and realized that if I didn’t change something, I was on my way to developing an eating disorder. I literally dreamed of chocolate chip cookies at night. It took me 6 weeks of allowing myself to indulge in the “forbidden” foods as much as I wanted before I lost my compulsion to eat them obsessively and was able to adopt a moderate, sensible way of eating. I instinctively knew that giving myself permission was the only way I was going to nip this in the bud, and I was right. Once I truly “got it” that if I really wanted something I could have it, I was able to relax and not feel compelled to eat it as if it was the last time I was ever going to have it again in my life.

For me, the freedom to eat what I want is very important. Psychologically, I feel very deprived and left out if I’m not allowed to indulge in things when others are. That’s me and my issue. I’m willing to endure a certain amount of discomfort in order to accomplish this, though of course I’d be happier if the pain was gone. And I do avoid certain foods if they might kill me, such as anything that might cause a severe allergic reaction, for example. But I indulge in sweets in moderation, eat gluten-containing foods, put soy milk in my tea - and I try to eat healthy most of the time.

Of course everyone is different, and what works for one won’t necessarily work for another. I’d be the last one to talk someone out of a restrictive diet if that’s what works for them and they’re ok with it. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I would imagine there are probably others on this list who might feel as I do about the diets.

Judy

From: Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@...>

Reply-<low dose naltrexone >

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:33:06 GMT

<low dose naltrexone >

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

Hi Marie,

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but...Dr J. McCandless suggests that, for best results, LDNers refrain from eating sugar, dairy, soy, and gluten (found in wheat, barley, rye, and oats).

Best regards,

Dudley Delany

dudley_delany

From: Marie Deady

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:21 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

I guess that is how everybody is different. I have hardly any appetite on LDN but I can always find room for sweets or ice cream. My husband is always upset with me cause I don't eat anything anymore. If I gave up sweets and ice cream I would drop so much weight.

Marie

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey

I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. I

came across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in a

weight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug is

currently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.

What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for various

groups including naltrexone and placebo.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdf

I haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don't

need to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dudley,

I know all of that. I try to stay away from sugar for the most part. Sugar has a very negative effect on me. I can eat a little of it once in a while but if I have it on a daily basis then it bothers me a lot. So I just try to have one cookie per day to satisfy myself. And I can stay away from it cause it really will make me sick. As far as the ice cream, I never keep it in my house cause it would not last. In the summer, my husband takes me out for it. I would go every night but we try to limit it to one to two times per week. In the winter I never get it. I have to have something to satisfy me so I eat pop corn. That does satisfy me.

Marie

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. Icame across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in aweight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug iscurrently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for variousgroups including naltrexone and placebo.http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdfI haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don'tneed to lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

I do love my veggies and when I eat a meal, it consist of mostly veggies and very little meat. I like fruit too but only in season, but I really LOVE sweets. Why can't I hate sweets and love all the good stuff. I guess that it doesn't work like that.

Merry Christmas

Marie

[low dose naltrexone] Re: APPETITE ON LDN *survey I just started LDN, but I did a lot of reading before starting. Icame across an article that suggests naltrexone could be used in aweight loss drug (when combined with bupropion). The drug iscurrently in phase three testing and is not FDA approved yet.What I found interesting is Figure 3 showing weight loss for variousgroups including naltrexone and placebo.http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/OREX/199086683x0x138524/9adfbf40-106f-4e0e-9f70-55b9ce16507f/Contrave-Poster-NAASO-Final.pdfI haven't been on LDN long enough to lose weight, but I really don'tneed to lose weight.