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Hi Everyone- I " m not sure what the final word was on non-food questions, but

I'm desperate for help, and this is such a knowledgeable group. Has anyone here

overcome acid reflux? My three year old has asthmatic episodes because of his

reflux. any help would be appreciated. Thanks- Sandy

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> 1. Re: KT

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> 2. Re: Kombucha

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> 3. Re: Re: off topic issues

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> 4. Re: brown rice

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> 5. Re: O.T - Is honey harmful to a baby?/Infant digestion & illnesses

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> 6. Re: O.T - Is honey harmful to a baby?

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> 7. Re: Re: honey harmful to a baby?/Infant digestion & illnesses

> From: " Jane Frieler " <jfrieler@...>

> 8. Re: O.T - Is honey harmful to a baby?/Infant digestion & illnesses

> From: " & Therese Laurdan " <rkissel@...>

> 9. Powdered milk

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> 10. Re: Powdered milk

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>> Now we just need to do more sharing to get the rest of you on board! I've got

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>> culture from a fellow Trad-Fooder (thanks!) and it's making extraordinary KT.

It's so pure

>> that I feel better within minutes of drinking it and the flavor is delicious.

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I can tell you what has cured me of it. I started to drink kefir (I make my own)

made from real/raw milk! Plus I quit refined sugars.

I now drink a good 12 to 24 ounces of kefir daily and have no more reflux. Kids

love it made into smoothies. (frozen fruit, kefir, raw honey or raw sugar) My

dgs is at the point will drink it plain!

If you need grains to make your own, let me know. I am in Andover and have

extras.

My reflux was so bad I was on the max amount of meds prescribed by the doc and

they were going to start me on a second one. Now I do not take any meds for it

and feel great almost all the time. I only have a wee bit of a problems once in

a while when I have PMS. So then it is a hormonal thing and still a rare thing

for me now.

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I have a family history of stomach ulcers and GERD. I seem to have

eliminated my stomach issues with the 3 K's: kraut, kombucha and

kefir. Also, taking a little ACV (apple cider vinegar) each day

helps, because, as you know, the stomach is a very acidic environment.

The conventional meds reduce your stomach's acid, which is

counter-intuitive b/c you need acid to digest food, and the stomach

tries to compensate for the reduced acid by producing more, causing a

vicious cycle. This is how the drug companies make their millions.

Chewing food thoroughly is probably the best way to prevent and avoid

acid reflux. We're all so hurried these days that people gulp without

chewing and tasting their food. It's a sad state of affairs and I'm

just as guilty as anyone.

~Joe

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Could someone tell me what kombucha is and why it is beneficial? I have never

heard of it.

inishglora <inishglora@...> wrote: I have a family history of stomach

ulcers and GERD. I seem to have

eliminated my stomach issues with the 3 K's: kraut, kombucha and

kefir. Also, taking a little ACV (apple cider vinegar) each day

helps, because, as you know, the stomach is a very acidic environment.

The conventional meds reduce your stomach's acid, which is

counter-intuitive b/c you need acid to digest food, and the stomach

tries to compensate for the reduced acid by producing more, causing a

vicious cycle. This is how the drug companies make their millions.

Chewing food thoroughly is probably the best way to prevent and avoid

acid reflux. We're all so hurried these days that people gulp without

chewing and tasting their food. It's a sad state of affairs and I'm

just as guilty as anyone.

~Joe

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, Kombucha is a fermented tea using sugar as the food for the culture.

The living

brew is loaded with antioxidents, anticarcinogens, phytonutrients and other

beneficial

substances far too numerous and complex to list here. The mushroom inoculant

converts the

sugar into these healing compounds.

For details, GOOGLE " benefits of Kombucha " or " how to make Kombucha " and be

prepared to

be impressed.

Will

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Consider increasing your anti-fungals. My son's reflux was from

yeast and bacterial overgrowth.

One side effect from acid reflux medications is yeast overgrowth.

One viscious cycle.

a

>

> My son's Acid Reflux is really flaring up after round one of

Chelation.

> He's been using Orange Drop Oil to soothe it but I don't think it's

> working. What have you all used for acid reflux as far as

prescription

> medications are concerned and what are the side affects?

> Thanks,

>

>

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> My son's Acid Reflux is really flaring up after round one of Chelation.

At my house, reflux was caused usually by food or supplement

intolerance, sometimes by yeast overgrowth. Try increasing your yeast

protocol. If that does not help, try a different chelator.

Dana

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What dosem, dosing schedule, and chelator are you using? How much does your son

weigh?

S S

> My son's Acid Reflux is really flaring up after round one of Chelation. <br>

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Do you give digestive enzymes ?

Those are supposed to help with Acid Reflux, they sure helped me.

Good Luck !

Neil

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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:56 PM

Subject: [ ] Acid Reflux Help

My son's Acid Reflux is really flaring up after round one of Chelation.

He's been using Orange Drop Oil to soothe it but I don't think it's

working. What have you all used for acid reflux as far as prescription

medications are concerned and what are the side affects?

Thanks,

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My son is currently taking DMSA 6.25mg every four hours 3 days on 5

days off. We use Grapfruit Seed Extract 250mg (up from 125mg last week)

spread throughout the day and are on the SCD diet for 34 days. We have

also tripled his probiotics and his stools are the most solid and

consistant that they have ever been so I tend to think we have the

yeast more under control then we ever have? Does that make sense. He

had Acid reflux as a baby through about 6-9 months and it sort of faded

away on its own but is back full force with the chelation. He is

grabbing his throat and in ovbvious pain when it happens. We are going

to our Dan! this afternoon but I want to be ready and know what to

expect with whatever he suggests. Any suggestions??

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My son has had acid reflux on and off for many years. He really had

a problem with GSE re reflux although it appeared to help candida. I

reluctantly stopped it due to relfux but I have just started

supplementing Betaine HCl in the hope that it helps his stomach

digest the food better (I had advice on this and also in the

Sunderland protocol) Has anyone else had success with supplementing

this? In you case sounds like he may be finding the GSE a little

hard going. I sympathise, my son's relfux can be awful, almost

constant to the point where he develops a hoarse cough in his throat.

Sue

>

> My son is currently taking DMSA 6.25mg every four hours 3 days on

5

> days off. We use Grapfruit Seed Extract 250mg (up from 125mg last

week)

> spread throughout the day and are on the SCD diet for 34 days. We

have

> also tripled his probiotics and his stools are the most solid and

> consistant that they have ever been so I tend to think we have the

> yeast more under control then we ever have? Does that make sense.

He

> had Acid reflux as a baby through about 6-9 months and it sort of

faded

> away on its own but is back full force with the chelation. He is

> grabbing his throat and in ovbvious pain when it happens. We are

going

> to our Dan! this afternoon but I want to be ready and know what to

> expect with whatever he suggests. Any suggestions??

>

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Have you tried putting the GSE into a capsule?

S S

<p>My son has had acid reflux on and off for many years. He really

had <br>

a problem with GSE re reflux although it appeared to help candida. I <br>

reluctantly stopped it due to relfux but I have just started <br>

supplementing Betaine HCl in the hope that it helps his stomach <br>

digest the food better (I had advice on this and also in the <br>

Sunderland protocol) Has anyone else had success with supplementing <br>

this? In you case sounds like he may be finding the GSE a little <br>

hard going. I sympathise, my son's relfux can be awful, almost <br>

constant to the point where he develops a hoarse cough in his throat.<br>

<br>

Sue<br>

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How are you administering the dmsa? It can be irritating to the

mouth, throat, esophagus. If he is chewing it, eating it etc.

Also, is he on digestive enzymes? This can help with that. You can

also try activated charcoal when he is having obvious syptoms, it

will absorb whatever is backing up on him and causing the burning.

I only mention that dmsa can be irritating, because my son chews his

up and had trouble with mouth irritation. We had to make sure he was

getting lots of water to wash it down.

> >

> > My son is currently taking DMSA 6.25mg every four hours 3 days

on

> 5

> > days off. We use Grapfruit Seed Extract 250mg (up from 125mg

last

> week)

> > spread throughout the day and are on the SCD diet for 34 days.

We

> have

> > also tripled his probiotics and his stools are the most solid

and

> > consistant that they have ever been so I tend to think we have

the

> > yeast more under control then we ever have? Does that make

sense.

> He

> > had Acid reflux as a baby through about 6-9 months and it sort

of

> faded

> > away on its own but is back full force with the chelation. He is

> > grabbing his throat and in ovbvious pain when it happens. We are

> going

> > to our Dan! this afternoon but I want to be ready and know what

to

> > expect with whatever he suggests. Any suggestions??

> >

>

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Sorry, I meant the dmsa, how is he taking that. I also put the GSE in

juice and we have been ok with that. It's the dmsa that irriates him.

>

> No I haven't, the GSE is orignally capsule form but I put it into

his

> juice. You think I should leave it in the capsule and try to get it

> down that way???

>

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Seems worth a try to bypass contact with the throat.

S S

<p>No I haven't, the GSE is orignally capsule form but I put it into

his <br>

juice. You think I should leave it in the capsule and try to get it <br>

down that way???<br>

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> Yes he gets no fenol and peptyzide by Houston Neutraceuticals and has

> been on them for a couple of months.

There might be foods those enzymes are not addressing, that might be

causing the reflux. You can try adding Zyme Prime, see if that helps.

Or, rotate thru foods. Enzymes did not address a few food issues for

my son.

Dana

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I also open up the DMSA and put it into a peanut butter ball, because

my son started spitting out the capsules. But I can go back to the

capsules if that might be the cause? Is DMSA very hard on the throat?

sarah

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We give it the same way, and it seems ok as long as we make him slug

down some water after each dose. I think it could be irritating if he

is not drinking afterwards to rinse it all down and out of his teeth.

I know we came to a point when my son was refusing his dmsa and all

other supplements on a round. We couldn't figure out why at first but

then finally he said it hurt and pointed in his mouth. So after that

we made sure he drank a bunch of water following eating it. And it has

been fine since. So it's worth a try that maybe it is making his

throat/esophagus hurt. Ya never know.

>

> I also open up the DMSA and put it into a peanut butter ball,

because

> my son started spitting out the capsules. But I can go back to the

> capsules if that might be the cause? Is DMSA very hard on the throat?

> sarah

>

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We used Prevacid solutabs with success.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

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On Behalf Of sarah

Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:56 AM

Subject: [ ] Acid Reflux Help

My son's Acid Reflux is really flaring up after round one of Chelation.

He's been using Orange Drop Oil to soothe it but I don't think it's

working. What have you all used for acid reflux as far as prescription

medications are concerned and what are the side affects?

Thanks,

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