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This was my son in Januray!

We ended up starting with just a probiotic mixed into juice. It is

flavorless and has no smell. After a week or two on that some of his

disposition improved so that we could add powdered

multivitamin/mineral to his juice. I put flaxseed in homemade

cookies that were all natural, so he was eating EFA's each day. We

even added calcium and protien powder to those cookies. Find

something that he will willing eat/drink. That is going to be your

main vehicle until you can settle things down with him. He is likely

bucking everything because of the nizoral making him sick. It may

take some time for him to willing accept things again.

My son was puker too if we tried to " give " him anything. Everything

had to be bought in unflavored and hidden into his foods. I put

flaxseed in his pancakes, and I put e oil and A oil in the syrup.

Etc. Once we got the probiotics working and some of his yeast down

he was less aggressive. As we have gotten him on supplements bit by

bit, he has improved. We completed 9 rounds of chelation now and he

is nothing like that. Before we could chelate though, I had to start

a game with him using a baby medicine syringe. WE only used water in

it or juice at that time, but we took turns squirting the liquid

into baby and mommy. Letting him squirt himself. We did this for

days until he was comfortable with the medicine squirter. Then we

began putting juice in it and squirting juice. He was ok as long as

he could squirt himself, just not us. That gave him comfort to have

control over what went into his mouth. When it came time to actually

do chelation he was good with the squirter and would take if for a

bribe. Best advice is don't force him to take things, at this point.

He will just get more upset about it and make matters worse. We even

resorting to hiding supplements in mini peanut butter cups.

Eventhough he isn't supposed to have them, the benefit of the

supplement getting in outweighed the bad of the pb cup. Be patient

above all! They take it as a personal assault when you try to force

them. Also, has he been evaluated by your school district yet, or

specialist? My son ended up having a sensory integration disorder

which was why he was so violent about taking supplements and picky

about foods. Oral sensory issues do this. It helped by giving him an

electric toothbrush to chew on. It made him less sensitive.

>

> I don't know what to do with my 3 year old. He has never been good

> about taking medicine, but my husband and I could usually figure

out a

> way to get it into him. His doctor had him on Nizerol for yeast

and it

> really hurt his stomach (took him off after a few days). Now, he

won't

> take ANYTHING.

> He has been off of casein for about 6 weeks and gluten for only 1

week.

> It doesn't help that he won't eat anything but baked potato chips

and

> corn (I'm sure that means I have to take him off of corn, too).

> Now, if we try to give him any of his supplements that taste okay,

he

> flips out and becomes extremely aggressive. He hits, kicks and

screams

> until he throws up. It would be easier if I could get anything in

> suppository form. He has always been really sensitive to tastes

and

> textures. I could hide some of it in his food if he would actually

eat.

> He is so strong willed it makes me crazy. What can I do?

> Thanks,

>

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My daughter is 4 now but was very similar at 2-3 years old. I could not get

anything in her. I found only behavior strategies to work. Threatening never

worked and usually made it worse. I told her calmly what I needed her to do and

then asked her if she wanted to use a syringe or a measuring spoon. She

sometimes likes to stir it. Sometimes she wanted to go back and forth between

the supplement and water. I made a reward board and gave her a lot of praise

until she no longer needed the reward. This took a lot of trial and error (and

a lot of tears on both our parts) and education. My daughter feeds off of my

emotions so I have to be very calm.

cindy_wrn <cindy_wrn@...> wrote: I don't know what to do with my 3

year old. He has never been good

about taking medicine, but my husband and I could usually figure out a

way to get it into him. His doctor had him on Nizerol for yeast and it

really hurt his stomach (took him off after a few days). Now, he won't

take ANYTHING.

He has been off of casein for about 6 weeks and gluten for only 1 week.

It doesn't help that he won't eat anything but baked potato chips and

corn (I'm sure that means I have to take him off of corn, too).

Now, if we try to give him any of his supplements that taste okay, he

flips out and becomes extremely aggressive. He hits, kicks and screams

until he throws up. It would be easier if I could get anything in

suppository form. He has always been really sensitive to tastes and

textures. I could hide some of it in his food if he would actually eat.

He is so strong willed it makes me crazy. What can I do?

Thanks,

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Is he off the Nizoral? When was his most recent vaccine?

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<p>I don't know what to do with my 3 year old. He has never been

good <br>

about taking medicine, but my husband and I could usually figure out a <br>

way to get it into him. His doctor had him on Nizerol for yeast and it <br>

really hurt his stomach (took him off after a few days). Now, he won't <br>

take ANYTHING. <br>

He has been off of casein for about 6 weeks and gluten for only 1 week. <br>

It doesn't help that he won't eat anything but baked potato chips and <br>

corn (I'm sure that means I have to take him off of corn, too).<br>

Now, if we try to give him any of his supplements that taste okay, he <br>

flips out and becomes extremely aggressive. He hits, kicks and screams <br>

until he throws up. It would be easier if I could get anything in <br>

suppository form. He has always been really sensitive to tastes and <br>

textures. I could hide some of it in his food if he would actually eat. <br>

He is so strong willed it makes me crazy. What can I do?<br>

Thanks, <br>

<br>

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I saw the answer to whether he's off the Nizoral just as I hit " send " . What if

anything does he drink? The yeast will keep coming back if he only eats carbs.

What did he eat before going gfcf? There are gfcf substitutes for the things

most kids eat.

S S

<p>I don't know what to do with my 3 year old. He has never been

good <br>

about taking medicine, but my husband and I could usually figure out a <br>

way to get it into him. His doctor had him on Nizerol for yeast and it <br>

really hurt his stomach (took him off after a few days). Now, he won't <br>

take ANYTHING. <br>

He has been off of casein for about 6 weeks and gluten for only 1 week. <br>

It doesn't help that he won't eat anything but baked potato chips and <br>

corn (I'm sure that means I have to take him off of corn, too).<br>

Now, if we try to give him any of his supplements that taste okay, he <br>

flips out and becomes extremely aggressive. He hits, kicks and screams <br>

until he throws up. It would be easier if I could get anything in <br>

suppository form. He has always been really sensitive to tastes and <br>

textures. I could hide some of it in his food if he would actually eat. <br>

He is so strong willed it makes me crazy. What can I do?<br>

Thanks, <br>

<br>

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When I put my son on a gluten and casien free diet , he was very picky and

wouldn't eat anything. I think it's because they are craving the gluten and

casien protiens . He's been on the diet for 3 years and even now if he

accidently gets a cheese puff or anything he's not supposed to have, it takes me

at least a week to get him eating normally again. He craves it once he has it.

Then after a while it works out of his system and then he eats normal, healthy

foods willingly again. Also, aren't the yeast meds supposed to make them sick

when they start it? I think it's caused by the yeast dying off. ( anyone correct

me if I'm wrong, I'm not quite an expert yet). Good luck!

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He has been off the Nizoral since last week. He tried Diflucan first

and flipped out with either the die off or intolerance of the

medicine on day 7. Now his doc wants him to take Nystatin 3 times a

day. My husband has gotten a half dose in him. You would think we

were trying to cut off one of his fingers by the screaming.

His doctor thinks that his testosterone levels are probably high and

are waiting on a bunch of test results.

He is just one of those kids where everything is a battle. He doesn't

want anyone telling him what to do. It is so frustrating. We try so

hard with him. His little brother is the exact opposite.

Oh, and his most recent and last vaccine was his flu shot last year.

I really appreciate your input.

Thanks,

> <p>I don't know what to do with my 3 year old. He has

never been good <br>

> about taking medicine, but my husband and I could usually figure

out a <br>

> way to get it into him. His doctor had him on Nizerol for yeast and

it <br>

> really hurt his stomach (took him off after a few days). Now, he

won't <br>

> take ANYTHING. <br>

> He has been off of casein for about 6 weeks and gluten for only 1

week. <br>

> It doesn't help that he won't eat anything but baked potato chips

and <br>

> corn (I'm sure that means I have to take him off of corn, too).<br>

> Now, if we try to give him any of his supplements that taste okay,

he <br>

> flips out and becomes extremely aggressive. He hits, kicks and

screams <br>

> until he throws up. It would be easier if I could get anything in

<br>

> suppository form. He has always been really sensitive to tastes and

<br>

> textures. I could hide some of it in his food if he would actually

eat. <br>

> He is so strong willed it makes me crazy. What can I do?<br>

> Thanks, <br>

> <br>

> </p>

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Hi ,

Seriously consider not getting any more flu vaccines...they contain thimerosal

(a preservative containing 50% mercury, a known neurotoxin) and educate yourself

on all other vaccines before allowing him to have any more. Strongly consider

reading " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Childhood Vaccines " by

Cave, MD; " A Shot in the Dark " by Barara Loe Fisher; and " Evidence of

Harm " by Kirby.

S S

<p>He has been off the Nizoral since last week. He tried Diflucan

first <br>

and flipped out with either the die off or intolerance of the <br>

medicine on day 7. Now his doc wants him to take Nystatin 3 times a <br>

day. My husband has gotten a half dose in him. You would think we <br>

were trying to cut off one of his fingers by the screaming. <br>

His doctor thinks that his testosterone levels are probably high and <br>

are waiting on a bunch of test results. <br>

He is just one of those kids where everything is a battle. He doesn't <br>

want anyone telling him what to do. It is so frustrating. We try so <br>

hard with him. His little brother is the exact opposite. <br>

Oh, and his most recent and last vaccine was his flu shot last year.<br>

I really appreciate your input.<br>

Thanks, <br>

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Hi ,

How many mercury amalgam dental fillings does he have? Did you have Rhogam?

S S

<p>He has been off the Nizoral since last week. He tried Diflucan

first <br>

and flipped out with either the die off or intolerance of the <br>

medicine on day 7. Now his doc wants him to take Nystatin 3 times a <br>

day. My husband has gotten a half dose in him. You would think we <br>

were trying to cut off one of his fingers by the screaming. <br>

His doctor thinks that his testosterone levels are probably high and <br>

are waiting on a bunch of test results. <br>

He is just one of those kids where everything is a battle. He doesn't <br>

want anyone telling him what to do. It is so frustrating. We try so <br>

hard with him. His little brother is the exact opposite. <br>

Oh, and his most recent and last vaccine was his flu shot last year.<br>

I really appreciate your input.<br>

Thanks, <br>

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For those with gluten and casein issues the gluten causes an opioid effect, so

when taken off gluten, it's like a heroin addict whose supply gets cut off.

S S

<p>When I put my son on a gluten and casien free diet , he was very

picky and wouldn't eat anything. I think it's because they are craving the

gluten and casien protiens . He's been on the diet for 3 years and even now if

he accidently gets a cheese puff or anything he's not supposed to have, it takes

me at least a week to get him eating normally again. He craves it once he has

it. Then after a while it works out of his system and then he eats normal,

healthy foods willingly again. Also, aren't the yeast meds supposed to make them

sick when they start it? I think it's caused by the yeast dying off. ( anyone

correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not quite an expert yet). Good luck!<br>

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, He doesn't have any amalgam fillings and I didn't have Rhogam.

I think they are going through withdrawl from gluten and I am quickly

losing my mind. His little brother is so sick right now. On day 7 of

his Diflucan treatment, he started running a fever. His doc started

him on Valtrex the next day when his fever went up to 101. He only

had one dose of Valtrex and he just keeps getting worse. His temp was

up to 104 this afternoon and he is moaning constantly. I guess he has

an unrelated virus on top of the yeast die off and gluten withdrawl.

I can't stand watching him go through this. He is so miserable. His

brother can't take the noise of the moaning and keeps yelling at him.

I am so pissed off that our children are going through this while our

piece of crap goverment does nothing. What do we have to do to get

them to start protecting our children from the drug companies, big

business polluters and I won't even say the words I would like to use

for the insurance industry. But I forget, that's who runs our

country. Do we all need to go to Washington and rally to get things

changed? Sorry to vent.

Thanks,

> <p>He has been off the Nizoral since last week. He

tried Diflucan first <br>

> and flipped out with either the die off or intolerance of the <br>

> medicine on day 7. Now his doc wants him to take Nystatin 3 times a

<br>

> day. My husband has gotten a half dose in him. You would think we

<br>

> were trying to cut off one of his fingers by the screaming. <br>

> His doctor thinks that his testosterone levels are probably high

and <br>

> are waiting on a bunch of test results. <br>

> He is just one of those kids where everything is a battle. He

doesn't <br>

> want anyone telling him what to do. It is so frustrating. We try so

<br>

> hard with him. His little brother is the exact opposite. <br>

> Oh, and his most recent and last vaccine was his flu shot last

year.<br>

> I really appreciate your input.<br>

> Thanks, <br>

>

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Sorry you're having such a rough time, wish I had some brilliant ideas for you.

I have no experience with Valtrex or Diflucan.

S S

<p>, He doesn't have any amalgam fillings and I didn't have

Rhogam. <br>

I think they are going through withdrawl from gluten and I am quickly <br>

losing my mind. His little brother is so sick right now. On day 7 of <br>

his Diflucan treatment, he started running a fever. His doc started <br>

him on Valtrex the next day when his fever went up to 101. He only <br>

had one dose of Valtrex and he just keeps getting worse. His temp was <br>

up to 104 this afternoon and he is moaning constantly. I guess he has <br>

an unrelated virus on top of the yeast die off and gluten withdrawl. <br>

I can't stand watching him go through this. He is so miserable. His <br>

brother can't take the noise of the moaning and keeps yelling at him.<br>

I am so pissed off that our children are going through this while our <br>

piece of crap goverment does nothing. What do we have to do to get <br>

them to start protecting our children from the drug companies, big <br>

business polluters and I won't even say the words I would like to use <br>

for the insurance industry. But I forget, that's who runs our <br>

country. Do we all need to go to Washington and rally to get things <br>

changed? Sorry to vent.<br>

Thanks, <br>

<br>

<br>

> <p>He has been off the Nizoral since last week. He <br>

tried Diflucan first <br><br>

> and flipped out with either the die off or intolerance of the <br><br>

> medicine on day 7. Now his doc wants him to take Nystatin 3 times a <br>

<br><br>

> day. My husband has gotten a half dose in him. You would think we <br>

<br><br>

> were trying to cut off one of his fingers by the screaming. <br><br>

> His doctor thinks that his testosterone levels are probably high <br>

and <br><br>

> are waiting on a bunch of test results. <br><br>

> He is just one of those kids where everything is a battle. He <br>

doesn't <br><br>

> want anyone telling him what to do. It is so frustrating. We try so <br>

<br><br>

> hard with him. His little brother is the exact opposite. <br><br>

> Oh, and his most recent and last vaccine was his flu shot last <br>

year.<br><br>

> I really appreciate your input.<br><br>

> Thanks, <br><br>

> <br>

> <br>

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I think that Dana has mentioned that some yeast protocols can kick up viral or

bacterial issues.

S S

<p>, He doesn't have any amalgam fillings and I didn't have

Rhogam. <br>

I think they are going through withdrawl from gluten and I am quickly <br>

losing my mind. His little brother is so sick right now. On day 7 of <br>

his Diflucan treatment, he started running a fever. His doc started <br>

him on Valtrex the next day when his fever went up to 101. He only <br>

had one dose of Valtrex and he just keeps getting worse. His temp was <br>

up to 104 this afternoon and he is moaning constantly. I guess he has <br>

an unrelated virus on top of the yeast die off and gluten withdrawl. <br>

I can't stand watching him go through this. He is so miserable. His <br>

brother can't take the noise of the moaning and keeps yelling at him.<br>

I am so pissed off that our children are going through this while our <br>

piece of crap goverment does nothing. What do we have to do to get <br>

them to start protecting our children from the drug companies, big <br>

business polluters and I won't even say the words I would like to use <br>

for the insurance industry. But I forget, that's who runs our <br>

country. Do we all need to go to Washington and rally to get things <br>

changed? Sorry to vent.<br>

Thanks, <br>

<br>

<br>

> <p>He has been off the Nizoral since last week. He <br>

tried Diflucan first <br><br>

> and flipped out with either the die off or intolerance of the <br><br>

> medicine on day 7. Now his doc wants him to take Nystatin 3 times a <br>

<br><br>

> day. My husband has gotten a half dose in him. You would think we <br>

<br><br>

> were trying to cut off one of his fingers by the screaming. <br><br>

> His doctor thinks that his testosterone levels are probably high <br>

and <br><br>

> are waiting on a bunch of test results. <br><br>

> He is just one of those kids where everything is a battle. He <br>

doesn't <br><br>

> want anyone telling him what to do. It is so frustrating. We try so <br>

<br><br>

> hard with him. His little brother is the exact opposite. <br><br>

> Oh, and his most recent and last vaccine was his flu shot last <br>

year.<br><br>

> I really appreciate your input.<br><br>

> Thanks, <br><br>

> <br>

> <br>

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