Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial results/OT/OT/OT

[Guest guest]

Bren,

It would help if they gave us the treatment protocol. Dosage, frequency, etc.

Thanks for the tip!!!!

Victor

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:20:42 -0000, Bren wrote:

>Allimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating

>Lyme ...

>Allimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme

>disease Allimax Nutraceuticals ... It showed that after using

>Allisure® AC-23 stabilized allicin for only 3 months ...

>

> http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_NPI_Press.pdf

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

(150 drops), w/probitoics,

enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

diet, lots of H20, healing

crisis expected including

diarrhea, treatment

period...3 months

Allimax Nutraceuticals US

completes clinical trial

for treating Lyme ...

Allimax Nutraceuticals US

completes clinical trial

for treating Lyme disease

Allimax Nutraceuticals ...

It showed that after using

Allisure® AC-23 stabilized

allicin for only 3

months ...

http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N

PI_Press.pdf

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

(150 drops), w/probitoics,

enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

diet, lots of H20, healing

crisis expected including

diarrhea, treatment

period...3 months

[Guest guest]

I was on zhang allicin and rest of lyme protocol for 7 months with no

improvement. I've not heard of this company...does anyone have any

experience with this company or know of someone who used their allicin?

[Guest guest]

Don't know anything about the Alimax nutraceuticals but we have two patients on Naltrexone 4.5 mg for the lymes. They rated the extent of their disease before starting the naltrexone and after they had been on it monthly. He originally started, with a maximum score of 5, at 2.75. After 3 months the score was 0.12, indicating a great improvement in the symptoms.

Bill

[low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial results/OT/OT/OT

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 monthsAllimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme ... Allimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme disease Allimax Nutraceuticals ... It showed that after using Allisure® AC-23 stabilized allicin for only 3 months ...http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_NPI_Press.pdfLyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 months

[Guest guest]

Hi Bren and others

I called Walton, the pres of Nutraceuticals (his number is on the link you gave us). He was one of the sponsors of the trial, and said the trial used Allimax AC-23 capsules that are 450 mg each. They used 6 capsules a day for 3 months.

The Allisure I was using were only 180 mg each and although Nutraceuticals makes them, they are a different formulation (the AC-23 are a stronger formulation).

He said even if I took enough of the 180 mg caps a day to equal 2700 mg, it would not work the same.

The only place you can buy them is from his company (my naturopath could get them from him also if I didn't want to buy direct).

I would suggest anyone interested in doing this protocol should call his company to get specifics, otherwise buying any other allicin pills will not work the same.

Arlene

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bren" <b63powell@...>

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 monthsAllimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme ... Allimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme disease Allimax Nutraceuticals ... It showed that after using Allisure® AC-23 stabilized allicin for only 3 months ...http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_NPI_Press.pdfLyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 months

[Guest guest]

, I clicked on the link for the allimax results and it was not available. Do you know how we can access the info for the results of the three-month study? thx -- RobinSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

The web site onlu has a 450 mg capsul with 275 mg of AC-23 and probiotics, or a

360mg AC-23. Which is correct?

________________________________

From: low dose naltrexone on behalf of arlizotte@...

Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 6:52 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial

results/OT/OT/OT

Hi Bren and others

I called Walton, the pres of Nutraceuticals (his number is on the link you

gave us). He was one of the sponsors of the trial, and said the trial used

Allimax AC-23 capsules that are 450 mg each. They used 6 capsules a day for 3

months.

The Allisure I was using were only 180 mg each and although Nutraceuticals

makes them, they are a different formulation (the AC-23 are a stronger

formulation).

He said even if I took enough of the 180 mg caps a day to equal 2700 mg, it

would not work the same.

The only place you can buy them is from his company (my naturopath could get

them from him also if I didn't want to buy direct).

I would suggest anyone interested in doing this protocol should call his company

to get specifics, otherwise buying any other allicin pills will not work the

same.

Arlene

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " Bren " <b63powell@...>

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

(150 drops), w/probitoics,

enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

diet, lots of H20, healing

crisis expected including

diarrhea, treatment

period...3 months

Allimax Nutraceuticals US

completes clinical trial

for treating Lyme ...

Allimax Nutraceuticals US

completes clinical trial

for treating Lyme disease

Allimax Nutraceuticals ...

It showed that after using

Allisure® AC-23 stabilized

allicin for only 3

months ...

http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N <http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N>

PI_Press.pdf

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

(150 drops), w/probitoics,

enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

diet, lots of H20, healing

crisis expected including

diarrhea, treatment

period...3 months

[Guest guest]

I have lyme and take 4.5 LDN daily since 2003. Originally took it for MS diagnosis which then I tested positive for lyme.

LDN has done nothing for me for lyme. Just want to say we're all different. I still take it b/c it is supposed to regulate the immune system and possibly be a cancer preventative.

Arlene

--------- [low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial results/OT/OT/OT

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 monthsAllimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme ... Allimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme disease Allimax Nutraceuticals ... It showed that after using Allisure® AC-23 stabilized allicin for only 3 months ...http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_NPI_Press.pdfLyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea,

treatment period...3 months

[Guest guest]

>

> , I clicked on the link for the allimax results and it was

not

> available. Do you know how we can access the info for the results of

the three-month

> study? thx -- Robin

>

=========

Go to post number 56042 on this board. The entire link is in

hypertext. Somehow the replies altered the original link.

[Guest guest]

I just visited the Allimax website and discovered an anomaly:

The 180 mg AC-3 caps result in allicin costing $3.84 per gram.

If I buy the 360 mg AC-3, the allicin costs $4.25 per gram.

To treat myself for 90 days with 2.7 grams per day the cost is $933.75 using the 180 mg tablets.

This rises to $1032.75 using the 360 mg tablets!!!

Strange.

Victor

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:52:42 +0000, arlizotte@... wrote:

>Hi Bren and others

>I called Walton, the pres of Nutraceuticals (his number is on

>the link you gave us).  He was one of the sponsors of the trial, and

>said the trial used Allimax AC-23 capsules that are 450 mg each. 

>They used 6 capsules a day for 3 months.

>The Allisure I was using were only 180 mg each and  although

>Nutraceuticals makes them, they are a different formulation (the AC-

>23 are a stronger formulation).

>He said even if I took enough of the 180 mg caps a day to equal 2700

>mg, it would not work the same.

>The only place you can buy them is from his company (my naturopath

>could get them from him also if I didn't want to buy direct).

>I would suggest anyone interested in doing this protocol should call

>his company to get specifics, otherwise buying any other allicin

>pills will not work the same.

>Arlene

>

>-------------- Original message --------------

>From: " Bren " <b63powell@...>

>

>

>

>

>

>Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

>daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

>(150 drops), w/probitoics,

>enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

>diet, lots of H20, healing

>crisis expected including

>diarrhea, treatment

>period...3 months

>

>Allimax Nutraceuticals US

>completes clinical trial

>for treating Lyme ...

>Allimax Nutraceuticals US

>completes clinical trial

>for treating Lyme disease

>Allimax Nutraceuticals ...

>It showed that after using

>Allisure® AC-23 stabilized

>allicin for only 3

>months ...

>

>

>http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N

>PI_Press.pdf

>

>Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

>daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

>(150 drops), w/probitoics,

>enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

>diet, lots of H20, healing

>crisis expected including

>diarrhea, treatment

>period...3 months

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Victor

I called Nutraceuticals back b/c like you I could only find info on 180 and 360 mg Allimax. Mr Walton told me they used 450mg Allimed in the trial. I was mistaken on the name of the product, it was Allimed that are 450 mg.

He told me that I would have to get the Allimed AC-23 450mg directly from them, and the cost is $130 for a bottle of 60 tablets. In the study the used 6 capsules per day (2700 mg) for 3 months.

It is quite costly.

Arlene

-------------- Original message -------------- From: Victor Misek <wikk@...>

I just visited the Allimax website and discovered an anomaly:

The 180 mg AC-3 caps result in allicin costing $3.84 per gram.

If I buy the 360 mg AC-3, the allicin costs $4.25 per gram.

To treat myself for 90 days with 2.7 grams per day the cost is $933.75 using the 180 mg tablets.

This rises to $1032.75 using the 360 mg tablets!!!

Strange.

Victor

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:52:42 +0000, arlizottecomcast (DOT) net wrote:

>Hi Bren and others

>I called Walton, the pres of Nutraceuticals (his number is on

>the link you gave us). He was one of the sponsors of the trial, and

>said the trial used Allimax AC-23 capsules that are 450 mg each.

>They used 6 capsules a day for 3 months.

>The Allisure I was using were only 180 mg each and although

>Nutraceuticals makes them, they are a different formulation (the AC-

>23 are a stronger formulation).

>He said even if I took enough of the 180 mg caps a day to equal 2700

>mg, it would not work the same.

>The only place you can buy them is from his company (my naturopath

>could get them from him also if I didn't want to buy direct).

>I would suggest anyone interested in doing this protocol should call

>his company to get specifics, otherwise buying any other allicin

>pills will not work the same.

>Arlene

>

..

[Guest guest]

Ron

I called Nutraceuticals back. The capsule they used in the trial was Allimed not Allimax. the website is www.allimed.us

The Allimed are the capsules that are 450mg. The cost of a bottle of 60 capsules is $130.

Arlene

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ron Ball" <rball@...>

The web site onlu has a 450 mg capsul with 275 mg of AC-23 and probiotics, or a 360mg AC-23. Which is correct? ________________________________From: low dose naltrexone on behalf of arlizottecomcast (DOT) netSent: Thu 11/1/2007 6:52 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial results/OT/OT/OTHi Bren and othersI called Walton, the pres of Nutraceuticals (his number is on the link you gave us). He was one of the sponsors of the trial, and said the trial used Allimax AC-23 capsules that are 450 mg each. They used 6 capsules a day for 3 months.The Allisure I was using were only 180 mg each and although Nutraceuticals makes them, they are a different formulati

on (the AC-23 are a stronger formulation).He said even if I took enough of the 180 mg caps a day to equal 2700 mg, it would not work the same.The only place you can buy them is from his company (my naturopath could get them from him also if I didn't want to buy direct).I would suggest anyone interested in doing this protocol should call his company to get specifics, otherwise buying any other allicin pills will not work the same.Arlene-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bren" <b63powell > Lyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 monthsAllimax Nutraceuticals US

c ompletes clinical trial for treating Lyme ... Allimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme disease Allimax Nutraceuticals ... It showed that after using Allisure® AC-23 stabilized allicin for only 3 months ...http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N <http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N> PI_Press.pdfLyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 months

[Guest guest]

If you have lyme the LDN will help but not kill the lyme. lyme is a bacteria

spirokeete and needs to be killed. Try the Marshall protocol.com. It cured my

lyme. I'm looking into trying LDN for prevention , clean up and immune help.

________________________________

From: low dose naltrexone on behalf of arlizotte@...

Sent: Thu 11/1/2007 12:36 PM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial

results/OT/OT/OT

I have lyme and take 4.5 LDN daily since 2003. Originally took it for MS

diagnosis which then I tested positive for lyme.

LDN has done nothing for me for lyme. Just want to say we're all different. I

still take it b/c it is supposed to regulate the immune system and possibly be a

cancer preventative.

Arlene

--------- [low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial

results/OT/OT/OT

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

(150 drops), w/probitoics,

enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

diet, lots of H20, healing

crisis expected including

diarrhea, treatment

period...3 months

Allimax Nutraceuticals US

completes clinical trial

for treating Lyme ...

Allimax Nutraceuticals US

completes clinical trial

for treating Lyme disease

Allimax Nutraceuticals ...

It showed that after using

Allisure® AC-23 stabilized

allicin for only 3

months ...

http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N <http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N>

PI_Press.pdf

Lyme disease: 8-10 caps

daily or 1/2 bottle liquid

(150 drops), w/probitoics,

enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic

diet, lots of H20, healing

crisis expected including

diarrhea, treatment

period...3 months

[Guest guest]

Lyme disease is caused by a spiral-shaped bacteria, usually transmitted by an infected tick, but also by other insects and human transmission as well. It causes inflammation of nerves and soft tissue. It's very important to learn about because it is spreading rapidly throughout the whole world, and everyone needs to learn how to protect themselves and their pets. You can read about it at www.lymenet.org as well as google info on it. -- RobinSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

My paragraph on Lyme is in response to ClareMagee's question...See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

What is Lyme and what causes it please. Clare

[low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial results/OT/OT/OTLyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 monthsAllimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme ... Allimax Nutraceuticals US completes clinical trial for treating Lyme disease Allimax Nutraceuticals ... It showed that after using Allisure® AC-23 stabilized allicin for only 3 months ...http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N <http://www.allimax.us/Lyme_N> PI_Press.pdfLyme disease: 8-10 caps daily or 1/2 bottle liquid (150 drops), w/probitoics, enzymes, EFAs, low glycemic diet, lots of H20, healing crisis expected including diarrhea, treatment period...3 months

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[Guest guest]

Thanks a million Clare.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial results/OT/OT/OT

Lyme disease is caused by a spiral-shaped bacteria, usually transmitted by an infected tick, but also by other insects and human transmission as well. It causes inflammation of nerves and soft tissue. It's very important to learn about because it is spreading rapidly throughout the whole world, and everyone needs to learn how to protect themselves and their pets. You can read about it at www.lymenet.org as well as google info on it. -- Robin

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[Guest guest]

last year we were talking about a successful lymes trial for a product that essentially comes from garlic. My understanding is that it was very sucessful. Below is one of the posts.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: For lyme sufferers, clinical trial results/OT/OT/OT

Hi Victor

I called Nutraceuticals back b/c like you I could only find info on 180 and 360 mg Allimax. Mr Walton told me they used 450mg Allimed in the trial. I was mistaken on the name of the product, it was Allimed that are 450 mg.

He told me that I would have to get the Allimed AC-23 450mg directly from them, and the cost is $130 for a bottle of 60 tablets. In the study the used 6 capsules per day (2700 mg) for 3 months.

It is quite costly.

Arlene

-------------- Original message -------------- From: Victor Misek <wikknetzero (DOT) net>

I just visited the Allimax website and discovered an anomaly:

The 180 mg AC-3 caps result in allicin costing $3.84 per gram.

If I buy the 360 mg AC-3, the allicin costs $4.25 per gram.

To treat myself for 90 days with 2.7 grams per day the cost is $933.75 using the 180 mg tablets.

This rises to $1032.75 using the 360 mg tablets!!!

Strange.

Victor

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:52:42 +0000, arlizottecomcast (DOT) net wrote:

>Hi Bren and others

>I called Walton, the pres of Nutraceuticals (his number is on

>the link you gave us). He was one of the sponsors of the trial, and

>said the trial used Allimax AC-23 capsules that are 450 mg each.

>They used 6 capsules a day for 3 months.

>The Allisure I was using were only 180 mg each and although

>Nutraceuticals makes them, they are a different formulation (the AC-

>23 are a stronger formulation).

>He said even if I took enough of the 180 mg caps a day to equal 2700

>mg, it would not work the same.

>The only place you can buy them is from his company (my naturopath

>could get them from him also if I didn't want to buy direct).

>I would suggest anyone interested in doing this protocol should call

>his company to get specifics, otherwise buying any other allicin

>pills will not work the same.

>Arlene

>

..