Re: Andy/Moria -- what's going on with this hair test?

[Guest guest]

Nell,

My son's did exactly the same thing. His third hair test is now definitely

meeting the counting rules while the first two were questionable. He has

also had over 100 cycles of chelating and has viral issues.

HMMM . . . .

Barb

[ ] Andy/Moria -- what's going on with this hair test?

The background: n (age 7) has done 73 rounds of ALA or ALA+DMSA,

with such great improvements he's lost his dx although is not

completely recovered. This is his fourth hair test. The first was

suspicious, the second, after 23 rounds, was " unusual " for 3 rules and

had 4 toxic elements in the red and 2 in the yellow. Below are the

third and fourth tests, taken a year apart.

Why would the third test, after 40-some rounds, look normalized, and

the fourth, after 72 rounds, meet the counting rules? Does that mean

further exposure? I'm continuing to chelate because he still usually

seems better during a round, but his main problem now is recurring

viral trouble. Is the hair test at all affected by viruses? I guess my

main question is, wouldn't you expect that after 2.5 years of

chelation and supps, and the dx dropped, that the hair test would have

normalized?

Toxic Elements result #3/resul t#4 ref range % #3/% #4

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Aluminum 9.7/13 <8.0 yellow/yellow

Antimony 0.028/0.014 <0.066 green/green

Arsenic 0.059/0.047 <0.080 green/green

Beryllium <0.01/<0.01 <0.020 blank/blank

Bismuth 0.035/0.021 <0.12 green/green

Cadmium 0.090/0.088 <0.15 green/green

Lead 0.54/.048 <1.0 green/green

Mercury 0.13/0.07 <0.40 green/green

Platinum <0.003/<0.003 <0.005 blank/blank

Thallium <0.001/<0.001 <0.010 blank/blank

Thorium <0.001/<0.001 <0.005 blank/blank

Uranium 0.007/0.003 <0.060 green/green

Nickel 0.13/0.11 <0.40 green/green

Silver 0.12/0.09 <0.13 green/green

Tin 0.16/0.08 <.0.30 green/green

Titanium 0.55/1.1 <1.0 green/yellow

---------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Elements result #3/ #4 ref range % #3/% #4

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Calcium 298/242 160-500 green under/green under

Magnesium 96/120 12-50 yellow over/yellow over

Sodium 28/12 12-90 green under/green under

Potassium 31/<3 10-40 white/red under

Copper 14/16 9-30 green under/white

Zinc 190/170 110-190 green under/green under

Manganese 0.19/0.18 0.18-0.60 green under/green under

Chromium 0.38/0.37 0.23-0.50 green over/green over

Vanadium 0.058/0.053 0.025-0.10 green over/white

Molybdenum 0.066/0.054 0.040-0.089 green over/green under

Boron 0.34/0.21 0.50-3.5 yellow under/yellow under

Iodine 0.66/0.37 0.25-1.3 green over/green under

Lithium <0.004/0.004 0.007-0.023 red under/red under

Phosphorus 159/165 160-250 green under/green under

Selenium 1.2/0.99 0.95-1.7 white/green under

Strontium 0.32/0.63 0.21-2.1 green under/green under

Sulfur 55300/47600 45500-53000 yellow over/green under

Barium 0.33/0.40 0.19-1.6 green under/green under

Cobalt 0.015/0.008 0.013-0.035 green under/yellow under

Iron 16/17 6-17 green over/green over

Germanium 0.041/0.035 0.045/0.065 yellow under/yellow under

Rubidium 0.023/0.008 0.008-0.080 white/green under

Zirconium 0.059/0.20 0.060-0.70 green under/green under

Thanks for your thoughts.

Nell

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Definitely not an expert here but only making a suggestion based on

what I have read. Could it be possible that you are finally getting

down to just the mercury? It can take many years to remove mercury.

Keep in mind that without chelation and no further exposure it can

take more than 25 years for mercury to leave the brain. Maybe many

of his other toxic metals are finally removed and the mercury is

making it's real appearance. Also bear in mind that there is a small

margin for error in any test. Again, this is only a suggestion that

might make some sense of it.

Either way, chelation is continuing. And mercury is there to be

chelated.

>

> The background: n (age 7) has done 73 rounds of ALA or

ALA+DMSA,

> with such great improvements he's lost his dx although is not

> completely recovered. This is his fourth hair test. The first was

> suspicious, the second, after 23 rounds, was " unusual " for 3 rules

and

> had 4 toxic elements in the red and 2 in the yellow. Below are the

> third and fourth tests, taken a year apart.

>

> Why would the third test, after 40-some rounds, look normalized,

and

> the fourth, after 72 rounds, meet the counting rules? Does that

mean

> further exposure? I'm continuing to chelate because he still

usually

> seems better during a round, but his main problem now is recurring

> viral trouble. Is the hair test at all affected by viruses? I

guess my

> main question is, wouldn't you expect that after 2.5 years of

> chelation and supps, and the dx dropped, that the hair test would

have

> normalized?

>

> Toxic Elements result #3/resul t#4 ref range % #3/% #4

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

---

> Aluminum 9.7/13 <8.0

yellow/yellow

> Antimony 0.028/0.014 <0.066 green/green

> Arsenic 0.059/0.047 <0.080 green/green

> Beryllium <0.01/<0.01 <0.020 blank/blank

> Bismuth 0.035/0.021 <0.12 green/green

> Cadmium 0.090/0.088 <0.15 green/green

> Lead 0.54/.048 <1.0 green/green

> Mercury 0.13/0.07 <0.40 green/green

> Platinum <0.003/<0.003 <0.005 blank/blank

> Thallium <0.001/<0.001 <0.010 blank/blank

> Thorium <0.001/<0.001 <0.005 blank/blank

> Uranium 0.007/0.003 <0.060 green/green

> Nickel 0.13/0.11 <0.40 green/green

> Silver 0.12/0.09 <0.13 green/green

> Tin 0.16/0.08 <.0.30 green/green

> Titanium 0.55/1.1 <1.0

green/yellow

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

---

> Elements result #3/ #4 ref range % #3/% #4

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

---

> Calcium 298/242 160-500 green under/green under

> Magnesium 96/120 12-50 yellow over/yellow over

> Sodium 28/12 12-90 green under/green under

> Potassium 31/<3 10-40 white/red under

> Copper 14/16 9-30 green under/white

> Zinc 190/170 110-190 green under/green under

> Manganese 0.19/0.18 0.18-0.60 green under/green under

> Chromium 0.38/0.37 0.23-0.50 green over/green over

> Vanadium 0.058/0.053 0.025-0.10 green over/white

> Molybdenum 0.066/0.054 0.040-0.089 green over/green under

> Boron 0.34/0.21 0.50-3.5 yellow under/yellow

under

> Iodine 0.66/0.37 0.25-1.3 green over/green under

> Lithium <0.004/0.004 0.007-0.023 red under/red under

> Phosphorus 159/165 160-250 green under/green under

> Selenium 1.2/0.99 0.95-1.7 white/green under

> Strontium 0.32/0.63 0.21-2.1 green under/green under

> Sulfur 55300/47600 45500-53000 yellow over/green under

> Barium 0.33/0.40 0.19-1.6 green under/green under

> Cobalt 0.015/0.008 0.013-0.035 green under/yellow under

> Iron 16/17 6-17 green over/green over

> Germanium 0.041/0.035 0.045/0.065 yellow under/yellow

under

> Rubidium 0.023/0.008 0.008-0.080 white/green under

> Zirconium 0.059/0.20 0.060-0.70 green under/green under

>

> Thanks for your thoughts.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

Ni Nell,

I posted yesterday but it seems that my post did not go through...

Amy Yasko says that viruses hold onto metals. I am starting to

believe it. I've chelated my severe ASD son for 2 years and that

brought him language and his autistic-like behaviors went away. We

took a 10 months break thinking we were all done but he started

having absence seizures so I resumed some supplements and chelation.

Nothing really happened. I started anti-virals and I now see lots of

good thigs happening (he is very happy, much more mature socially and

emotionally, very creative and his imaginary play really took a turn).

His first hair test met two of the counting rules. Then, hair tests

kept improving on chelation, his last one was normal. I plan on doing

another one next month and I bet this one is not going to look

normal. We'll see, I'll keep you posted.

>

> The background: n (age 7) has done 73 rounds of ALA or

ALA+DMSA,

> with such great improvements he's lost his dx although is not

> completely recovered. This is his fourth hair test. The first was

> suspicious, the second, after 23 rounds, was " unusual " for 3 rules

and

> had 4 toxic elements in the red and 2 in the yellow. Below are the

> third and fourth tests, taken a year apart.

>

> Why would the third test, after 40-some rounds, look normalized, and

> the fourth, after 72 rounds, meet the counting rules? Does that mean

> further exposure? I'm continuing to chelate because he still usually

> seems better during a round, but his main problem now is recurring

> viral trouble. Is the hair test at all affected by viruses? I guess

my

> main question is, wouldn't you expect that after 2.5 years of

> chelation and supps, and the dx dropped, that the hair test would

have

> normalized?

>

> Toxic Elements result #3/resul t#4 ref range % #3/% #4

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> Aluminum 9.7/13 <8.0

yellow/yellow

> Antimony 0.028/0.014 <0.066 green/green

> Arsenic 0.059/0.047 <0.080 green/green

> Beryllium <0.01/<0.01 <0.020 blank/blank

> Bismuth 0.035/0.021 <0.12 green/green

> Cadmium 0.090/0.088 <0.15 green/green

> Lead 0.54/.048 <1.0 green/green

> Mercury 0.13/0.07 <0.40 green/green

> Platinum <0.003/<0.003 <0.005 blank/blank

> Thallium <0.001/<0.001 <0.010 blank/blank

> Thorium <0.001/<0.001 <0.005 blank/blank

> Uranium 0.007/0.003 <0.060 green/green

> Nickel 0.13/0.11 <0.40 green/green

> Silver 0.12/0.09 <0.13 green/green

> Tin 0.16/0.08 <.0.30 green/green

> Titanium 0.55/1.1 <1.0 green/yellow

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

-

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> Elements result #3/ #4 ref range % #3/% #4

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> Calcium 298/242 160-500 green under/green under

> Magnesium 96/120 12-50 yellow over/yellow over

> Sodium 28/12 12-90 green under/green under

> Potassium 31/<3 10-40 white/red under

> Copper 14/16 9-30 green under/white

> Zinc 190/170 110-190 green under/green under

> Manganese 0.19/0.18 0.18-0.60 green under/green under

> Chromium 0.38/0.37 0.23-0.50 green over/green over

> Vanadium 0.058/0.053 0.025-0.10 green over/white

> Molybdenum 0.066/0.054 0.040-0.089 green over/green under

> Boron 0.34/0.21 0.50-3.5 yellow under/yellow under

> Iodine 0.66/0.37 0.25-1.3 green over/green under

> Lithium <0.004/0.004 0.007-0.023 red under/red under

> Phosphorus 159/165 160-250 green under/green under

> Selenium 1.2/0.99 0.95-1.7 white/green under

> Strontium 0.32/0.63 0.21-2.1 green under/green under

> Sulfur 55300/47600 45500-53000 yellow over/green under

> Barium 0.33/0.40 0.19-1.6 green under/green under

> Cobalt 0.015/0.008 0.013-0.035 green under/yellow under

> Iron 16/17 6-17 green over/green over

> Germanium 0.041/0.035 0.045/0.065 yellow under/yellow under

> Rubidium 0.023/0.008 0.008-0.080 white/green under

> Zirconium 0.059/0.20 0.060-0.70 green under/green under

>

> Thanks for your thoughts.

>

> Nell

>

[Guest guest]

Do any of you think that viruses can mess up mineral transport on a hair test,

in addition

to mercury? How do you explain the fluctuations in hair test results?

in Illinois

[Guest guest]

>

> Are any of you having frequent urination issues with the Virastop??

My son

> has only been on the stuff for two days and he has the whizzes!

In my family, this would mean the viruses were " dying off " , and yeast

was increasing.

Dana

[Guest guest]

If your child has viral issues you need to do a 48hr eeg to rule out

continuous spike and wave seizures. My son has been having them

since 3 and have never been diagnosed even though we have done so

many eegs. He has started on Lamictal and he is really starting to

progress.

We did chelate for years with good results but nothing like the

Lamictal has done overnight.

nne

> >

> > The background: n (age 7) has done 73 rounds of ALA or

> ALA+DMSA,

> > with such great improvements he's lost his dx although is not

> > completely recovered. This is his fourth hair test. The first was

> > suspicious, the second, after 23 rounds, was " unusual " for 3

rules

> and

> > had 4 toxic elements in the red and 2 in the yellow. Below are

the

> > third and fourth tests, taken a year apart.

> >

> > Why would the third test, after 40-some rounds, look normalized,

and

> > the fourth, after 72 rounds, meet the counting rules? Does that

mean

> > further exposure? I'm continuing to chelate because he still

usually

> > seems better during a round, but his main problem now is

recurring

> > viral trouble. Is the hair test at all affected by viruses? I

guess

> my

> > main question is, wouldn't you expect that after 2.5 years of

> > chelation and supps, and the dx dropped, that the hair test would

> have

> > normalized?

> >

> > Toxic Elements result #3/resul t#4 ref range % #3/%

#4

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

---

> --

> > Aluminum 9.7/13 <8.0

> yellow/yellow

> > Antimony 0.028/0.014 <0.066

green/green

> > Arsenic 0.059/0.047 <0.080

green/green

> > Beryllium <0.01/<0.01 <0.020

blank/blank

> > Bismuth 0.035/0.021 <0.12

green/green

> > Cadmium 0.090/0.088 <0.15

green/green

> > Lead 0.54/.048 <1.0

green/green

> > Mercury 0.13/0.07 <0.40

green/green

> > Platinum <0.003/<0.003 <0.005

blank/blank

> > Thallium <0.001/<0.001 <0.010

blank/blank

> > Thorium <0.001/<0.001 <0.005

blank/blank

> > Uranium 0.007/0.003 <0.060

green/green

> > Nickel 0.13/0.11 <0.40

green/green

> > Silver 0.12/0.09 <0.13

green/green

> > Tin 0.16/0.08 <.0.30

green/green

> > Titanium 0.55/1.1 <1.0

green/yellow

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

---

> -

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

---

> --

> > Elements result #3/ #4 ref range % #3/% #4

> > -----------------------------------------------------------------

---

> --

> > Calcium 298/242 160-500 green under/green

under

> > Magnesium 96/120 12-50 yellow over/yellow

over

> > Sodium 28/12 12-90 green under/green

under

> > Potassium 31/<3 10-40 white/red under

> > Copper 14/16 9-30 green under/white

> > Zinc 190/170 110-190 green under/green

under

> > Manganese 0.19/0.18 0.18-0.60 green under/green

under

> > Chromium 0.38/0.37 0.23-0.50 green over/green over

> > Vanadium 0.058/0.053 0.025-0.10 green over/white

> > Molybdenum 0.066/0.054 0.040-0.089 green over/green under

> > Boron 0.34/0.21 0.50-3.5 yellow under/yellow

under

> > Iodine 0.66/0.37 0.25-1.3 green over/green under

> > Lithium <0.004/0.004 0.007-0.023 red under/red under

> > Phosphorus 159/165 160-250 green under/green

under

> > Selenium 1.2/0.99 0.95-1.7 white/green under

> > Strontium 0.32/0.63 0.21-2.1 green under/green

under

> > Sulfur 55300/47600 45500-53000 yellow over/green

under

> > Barium 0.33/0.40 0.19-1.6 green under/green

under

> > Cobalt 0.015/0.008 0.013-0.035 green under/yellow

under

> > Iron 16/17 6-17 green over/green over

> > Germanium 0.041/0.035 0.045/0.065 yellow under/yellow

under

> > Rubidium 0.023/0.008 0.008-0.080 white/green under

> > Zirconium 0.059/0.20 0.060-0.70 green under/green

under

> >

> > Thanks for your thoughts.

> >

> > Nell

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

> I posted yesterday but it seems that my post did not go through...

Me too.

>

> Amy Yasko says that viruses hold onto metals. I am starting to

> believe it.

Anyone here being treated by Yasko? I got a bad vibe from her book,

but of course she could be right about viruses even if she's wrong

about a lot of other stuff (ALA being a chelator, for example).

I started anti-virals and I now see lots of

> good thigs happening (he is very happy, much more mature socially and

> emotionally, very creative and his imaginary play really took a turn)

Yes, that's what antivirals did here too, along with cognitive clarity.

> His first hair test met two of the counting rules. Then, hair tests

> kept improving on chelation, his last one was normal. I plan on doing

> another one next month and I bet this one is not going to look

> normal. We'll see, I'll keep you posted.

*Please do! The pattern of your son's tests so far makes sense --

gradual improvement that matches with his recovery. And I can see how

a hair test could look normal when there's still some Hg or lead

causing damage. But I don't see why n's test would normalize and

*then meet the counting rules. Or I mean I can see that events could

cause that to happen but I have no idea what they were in this case.

Nell

[Guest guest]

> causing damage. But I don't see why n's test would normalize and

> *then meet the counting rules. Or I mean I can see that events could

> cause that to happen but I have no idea what they were in this case.

>

> Nell

>

What did you do between these 2 tests? anti-virals and chelation?

The anti-virals might have helped " freeing " more metals and made the

chelation more effective.

When you start chelating, the hair test usually looks worst. We did 80

rounds here, but I feel like we are starting chelation all over again!

I feel like he could not excrete some metals during these two past

years of chelation, and these metals are now coming out! If his hair

test looks like n's one, then it would confirm that feeling. And

it means that we are in for another couple years of chelation....

sigh...

[Guest guest]

>

> I asked Andy about this one time and he said No, this was incorrect,

that viruses do not hold onto metals.

>

>

>

Right, I remember reading that. If I recall correctly he even says that

once you are done chelating, your immune system should be strong enough

to fight and eliminate the viruses.

Some people say that if you get rid off viruses, then your body can

finally excrete metals on his own.

I am no expert, but it seems to me that viruses and metals are linked

somehow...

[Guest guest]

> Right, I remember reading that. If I recall correctly he even says that

> once you are done chelating, your immune system should be strong enough

> to fight and eliminate the viruses.

I wish that was true for my kids. However, unfortunately, all

chelation did was allow them to tolerate the supplements which were

required to eliminate the viruses. They still needed the anti-virals.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> What did you do between these 2 tests? anti-virals and chelation?

> The anti-virals might have helped " freeing " more metals and made the

> chelation more effective.

Who knows. I guess I can't rule out another exposure but I've racked

my brain and can't think of anything -- same house, no trips, no

changes I can think of. In fact, at that magic round 60 he was doing

incredibly well. What's happened since then is, I think, a very slow

slide into viral trouble again. At the moment I'm trying the

kitchen-sink method Andy recommended, and have him on ViraStop,

ProNoost, OLE, sambucol, and Vit A. Not for the faint of heart, lol.

We did 80

> rounds here, but I feel like we are starting chelation all over again!

> I feel like he could not excrete some metals during these two past

> years of chelation, and these metals are now coming out!

Are you using the same chelators, but getting different effects?

Nell

[Guest guest]

Lamictal is much better than Depakote. AT 9 my son is awakening w/

the Lamictal. Taurine is not enough to stop my son's seizures and

back in October when I was doing the virastop my son had status

seizure that lasted 4 hrs so be careful. What dose of taurine is

your son on. My son also seems to be responding to the glycemic

index diet. I believe diet is essential w/ getting seizures under

control.

I started chelating my son in 2001. We chelated every other weekend

for 3 years and chelation help my son a great deal as did Valtrex,

enzymes and diet but nothing has done what the combination of

Lamictal and diet has done for my son.

nne

- In , " jromkema " <jromkema@...> wrote:

>

> What is Lamictal? An anti-seizure drug? Not going there. Craig

was on

> Depakote for three years, horribly high doses due to our

neurologist. I

> have terrible regrets for listening to him.

>

> Since we've upped his Taurine levels, we've not seen a seizure

since.

>

> Barb

> [ ] Re: Andy/Moria -- what's going on with

this hair

> test?

>

>

> > If your child has viral issues you need to do a 48hr eeg to rule

out

> > continuous spike and wave seizures. My son has been having them

> > since 3 and have never been diagnosed even though we have done so

> > many eegs. He has started on Lamictal and he is really starting

to

> > progress.

> >

> > We did chelate for years with good results but nothing like the

> > Lamictal has done overnight.

> >

> > nne

> >

> >> >

> >> > The background: n (age 7) has done 73 rounds of ALA or

> >> ALA+DMSA,

> >> > with such great improvements he's lost his dx although is not

> >> > completely recovered. This is his fourth hair test. The first

was

> >> > suspicious, the second, after 23 rounds, was " unusual " for 3

> > rules

> >> and

> >> > had 4 toxic elements in the red and 2 in the yellow. Below are

> > the

> >> > third and fourth tests, taken a year apart.

> >> >

> >> > Why would the third test, after 40-some rounds, look

normalized,

> > and

> >> > the fourth, after 72 rounds, meet the counting rules? Does

that

> > mean

> >> > further exposure? I'm continuing to chelate because he still

> > usually

> >> > seems better during a round, but his main problem now is

> > recurring

> >> > viral trouble. Is the hair test at all affected by viruses? I

> > guess

> >> my

> >> > main question is, wouldn't you expect that after 2.5 years of

> >> > chelation and supps, and the dx dropped, that the hair test

would

> >> have

> >> > normalized?

> >> >

> >> > Toxic Elements result #3/resul t#4 ref range %

#3/%

> > #4

> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------

---

> > ---

> >> --

> >> > Aluminum 9.7/13 <8.0

> >> yellow/yellow

> >> > Antimony 0.028/0.014 <0.066

> > green/green

> >> > Arsenic 0.059/0.047 <0.080

> > green/green

> >> > Beryllium <0.01/<0.01 <0.020

> > blank/blank

> >> > Bismuth 0.035/0.021 <0.12

> > green/green

> >> > Cadmium 0.090/0.088 <0.15

> > green/green

> >> > Lead 0.54/.048 <1.0

> > green/green

> >> > Mercury 0.13/0.07 <0.40

> > green/green

> >> > Platinum <0.003/<0.003 <0.005

> > blank/blank

> >> > Thallium <0.001/<0.001 <0.010

> > blank/blank

> >> > Thorium <0.001/<0.001 <0.005

> > blank/blank

> >> > Uranium 0.007/0.003 <0.060

> > green/green

> >> > Nickel 0.13/0.11 <0.40

> > green/green

> >> > Silver 0.12/0.09 <0.13

> > green/green

> >> > Tin 0.16/0.08 <.0.30

> > green/green

> >> > Titanium 0.55/1.1 <1.0

> > green/yellow

> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------

---

> > ---

> >> -

> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------

---

> > ---

> >> --

> >> > Elements result #3/ #4 ref range % #3/% #4

> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------

---

> > ---

> >> --

> >> > Calcium 298/242 160-500 green under/green

> > under

> >> > Magnesium 96/120 12-50 yellow over/yellow

> > over

> >> > Sodium 28/12 12-90 green under/green

> > under

> >> > Potassium 31/<3 10-40 white/red under

> >> > Copper 14/16 9-30 green under/white

> >> > Zinc 190/170 110-190 green under/green

> > under

> >> > Manganese 0.19/0.18 0.18-0.60 green under/green

> > under

> >> > Chromium 0.38/0.37 0.23-0.50 green over/green

over

> >> > Vanadium 0.058/0.053 0.025-0.10 green over/white

> >> > Molybdenum 0.066/0.054 0.040-0.089 green over/green

under

> >> > Boron 0.34/0.21 0.50-3.5 yellow under/yellow

> > under

> >> > Iodine 0.66/0.37 0.25-1.3 green over/green

under

> >> > Lithium <0.004/0.004 0.007-0.023 red under/red under

> >> > Phosphorus 159/165 160-250 green under/green

> > under

> >> > Selenium 1.2/0.99 0.95-1.7 white/green under

> >> > Strontium 0.32/0.63 0.21-2.1 green under/green

> > under

> >> > Sulfur 55300/47600 45500-53000 yellow over/green

> > under

> >> > Barium 0.33/0.40 0.19-1.6 green under/green

> > under

> >> > Cobalt 0.015/0.008 0.013-0.035 green under/yellow

> > under

> >> > Iron 16/17 6-17 green over/green

over

> >> > Germanium 0.041/0.035 0.045/0.065 yellow under/yellow

> > under

> >> > Rubidium 0.023/0.008 0.008-0.080 white/green under

> >> > Zirconium 0.059/0.20 0.060-0.70 green under/green

> > under

> >> >

> >> > Thanks for your thoughts.

> >> >

> >> > Nell

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> =======================================================

> >>

[Guest guest]

It isn't clear to me what is going on, but one reason I tell people

not to bother with serial hair tests is that they often give confusing

answers like this.

The change between the tests isn't very big if you look at the numbers

or the bars on the page instead of the counting results.

The potassium falling through the floor suggests you might consider

whether he has thyroid issues, but I wouldn't torture him with a test

unless other things suggest he does. Find a list of symptoms and go

over it.

With the all low kind of situation supplementary stomach acid (betaine

hydrochloride) or digestive enzymes are often helpful in improving

overall condition.

See what the test says if you do it next year to confuse yourself. In

the meantime, chelate chelate chelate.

Andy

>

> The background: n (age 7) has done 73 rounds of ALA or ALA+DMSA,

> with such great improvements he's lost his dx although is not

> completely recovered. This is his fourth hair test. The first was

> suspicious, the second, after 23 rounds, was " unusual " for 3 rules and

> had 4 toxic elements in the red and 2 in the yellow. Below are the

> third and fourth tests, taken a year apart.

>

> Why would the third test, after 40-some rounds, look normalized, and

> the fourth, after 72 rounds, meet the counting rules? Does that mean

> further exposure? I'm continuing to chelate because he still usually

> seems better during a round, but his main problem now is recurring

> viral trouble. Is the hair test at all affected by viruses? I guess my

> main question is, wouldn't you expect that after 2.5 years of

> chelation and supps, and the dx dropped, that the hair test would have

> normalized?

>

> Toxic Elements result #3/resul t#4 ref range % #3/% #4

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> Aluminum 9.7/13 <8.0 yellow/yellow

> Antimony 0.028/0.014 <0.066 green/green

> Arsenic 0.059/0.047 <0.080 green/green

> Beryllium <0.01/<0.01 <0.020 blank/blank

> Bismuth 0.035/0.021 <0.12 green/green

> Cadmium 0.090/0.088 <0.15 green/green

> Lead 0.54/.048 <1.0 green/green

> Mercury 0.13/0.07 <0.40 green/green

> Platinum <0.003/<0.003 <0.005 blank/blank

> Thallium <0.001/<0.001 <0.010 blank/blank

> Thorium <0.001/<0.001 <0.005 blank/blank

> Uranium 0.007/0.003 <0.060 green/green

> Nickel 0.13/0.11 <0.40 green/green

> Silver 0.12/0.09 <0.13 green/green

> Tin 0.16/0.08 <.0.30 green/green

> Titanium 0.55/1.1 <1.0 green/yellow

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> Elements result #3/ #4 ref range % #3/% #4

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> Calcium 298/242 160-500 green under/green under

> Magnesium 96/120 12-50 yellow over/yellow over

> Sodium 28/12 12-90 green under/green under

> Potassium 31/<3 10-40 white/red under

> Copper 14/16 9-30 green under/white

> Zinc 190/170 110-190 green under/green under

> Manganese 0.19/0.18 0.18-0.60 green under/green under

> Chromium 0.38/0.37 0.23-0.50 green over/green over

> Vanadium 0.058/0.053 0.025-0.10 green over/white

> Molybdenum 0.066/0.054 0.040-0.089 green over/green under

> Boron 0.34/0.21 0.50-3.5 yellow under/yellow under

> Iodine 0.66/0.37 0.25-1.3 green over/green under

> Lithium <0.004/0.004 0.007-0.023 red under/red under

> Phosphorus 159/165 160-250 green under/green under

> Selenium 1.2/0.99 0.95-1.7 white/green under

> Strontium 0.32/0.63 0.21-2.1 green under/green under

> Sulfur 55300/47600 45500-53000 yellow over/green under

> Barium 0.33/0.40 0.19-1.6 green under/green under

> Cobalt 0.015/0.008 0.013-0.035 green under/yellow under

> Iron 16/17 6-17 green over/green over

> Germanium 0.041/0.035 0.045/0.065 yellow under/yellow under

> Rubidium 0.023/0.008 0.008-0.080 white/green under

> Zirconium 0.059/0.20 0.060-0.70 green under/green under

>

> Thanks for your thoughts.

>

> Nell

>