Re: 56 round Chelation update and is it too late for my 5 yo child?

May 5, 2006

Raquel,

Just some words of encouragement on your posting. I personally think

that if age 5 were it, we would all be done. While maybe under 5 is

critical, if no one over age 5 had any brain repair, there would be

no point in chelating myself or my 10 year old. Correct? I have

talked to many adults who have chelated from coutless years of metal

poisoning that probably started as infants/small children and they

cannot beleive the improvments in brain function. So never say

never. I hate to think that my son whom is 3.5 years old will not

recover from his metal poisoning because his chelation will take

until he is 6 years old. Andy told me that starting to chelate him

now and for the next three years should provide him with a full

recovery, as with my mercury toxic other child. Personally, I

beleive we all have some brain damage. And perhaps our children will

always be different than they were originally designed to be. But I

think that is true of all of us. There are so many things that

change our brains and bodies, whether metal or not. A par for the

course of existing on this planet unfortunately. So I would measure

success on his quality of life! And it certainly is best to continue

to remove his metals no matter what age to prevent any further

damages. If it sends comfort your way, I beleive some healing is

still possibly beyond age 5. If not I may as well pack it up myself.

Since I am 33, that would mean I will never get better. I think the

brain is always changing. As I have read that learning new things

creates new nerve synapses in the brain. That would mean the brain

can grow, change...maybe heal. And many on this board have reported

great results in chelating children older than five. You have

already done a great deal so far, stay positive. We mom's can never

give up on our kids, no matter what " studies " may say. We certainly

know that some studies are faulty anyway. Blessings for both your

recoveries.

Jan

>

> First the good news:

>

> My son is about to turn 5 yo. He was borderline autistic when he

was

> evaluated when he turned 3 in 2004. He had speech but couldn't

> answer questions, had echolalia, intense sensory stuff and rigid

> ways, toewalking, flapping of hands, and catastrophic crying. I

> started chelation at the age of 3 1/2. He has had 56 rounds of

> chelation on AC protocol using TD DMPS, 38 of these rounds have

been

> with TD ALA also, on a 3 hour for 3 days schedule.

>

> We have very mild negative side effects, just a little more

> crankiness and crying when he is chelating and he has a touch of a

> cold or allergies.

>

> There are lots of improvements while he is chelating. During the

> last round he asked for a mirror to look at the bubu in his elbow,

> and spelled the word " cat " with magnets, that his dad had taught

him

> a few months ago, spontaneously!

>

> With 38 rounds of TD ALA under his belt, he is less than half way

> through chelation and he is about to turn 5 in a few days. I have

> read about how important it is to chelate before the age of 5,

> because of this marking the end of a biologically determined brain

> growth spur (sp) and the solidification of neurological pathways

and

> consequent permanent brain damage, and now I fear that my son will

> never recover fully since he is turning 5 and is only partially

> chelated.

>

> Comments, ideas? I am really strugling with this.

>

> I want to share my update too with youy guys since I have also

been

> chelating myself, alongside my child. I presented chronic fatigue

> (brutal), with paradoxical cortisol response and beginings of

> fibromyalgia, with a very depresed inmune system towards virus, so

I

> was fatigued and sick all the time. 1 year after removal of

amalgams

> and at least 40 rounds of chelation had not been able to alleviate

> my fatigue, and I spent day after day in bed. It improved sligtly

> this September, 18 months after removal of amalgams and 12 months

> into chelation.

>

> In the mean time I moved, and my improvement went so fast, even

> though I couldn't chelate for about 3 months, that I realized one

of

> the factors that was keeping me down was not having perfected my

> particular coctail of supplements, and living in an apartment that

> had mold inside the walls due to internal leaks, the mold was

> literally killing me, even though only a few mold stains appeared

in

> the bathroom walls.

>

> So I have done 58 rounds of chelation for myself, both with DMPS

and

> DMSA, 55 of which have been with ALA, every 3 hours for 3 days.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Raquel

>

May 5, 2006

Hi Jan:

Thank you so much for your encouragement. I was looking for clues

that pointed towards recovery of older kids, like the comment from

Andy you mentioned. If you remember the post, or other posts from

moms that had their older kids imporving or recovering, I would love

to read them, I think at times that I am not doing enough or I may

be missing something vital in my interventions. I wish youthe best

for your two sons.

Gratefully,

Raquel

> >

> > First the good news:

> >

> > My son is about to turn 5 yo. He was borderline autistic when he

> was

> > evaluated when he turned 3 in 2004. He had speech but couldn't

> > answer questions, had echolalia, intense sensory stuff and rigid

> > ways, toewalking, flapping of hands, and catastrophic crying. I

> > started chelation at the age of 3 1/2. He has had 56 rounds of

> > chelation on AC protocol using TD DMPS, 38 of these rounds have

> been

> > with TD ALA also, on a 3 hour for 3 days schedule.

> >

> > We have very mild negative side effects, just a little more

> > crankiness and crying when he is chelating and he has a touch of

a

> > cold or allergies.

> >

> > There are lots of improvements while he is chelating. During the

> > last round he asked for a mirror to look at the bubu in his

elbow,

> > and spelled the word " cat " with magnets, that his dad had taught

> him

> > a few months ago, spontaneously!

> >

> > With 38 rounds of TD ALA under his belt, he is less than half

way

> > through chelation and he is about to turn 5 in a few days. I

have

> > read about how important it is to chelate before the age of 5,

> > because of this marking the end of a biologically determined

brain

> > growth spur (sp) and the solidification of neurological pathways

> and

> > consequent permanent brain damage, and now I fear that my son

will

> > never recover fully since he is turning 5 and is only partially

> > chelated.

> >

> > Comments, ideas? I am really strugling with this.

> >

> > I want to share my update too with youy guys since I have also

> been

> > chelating myself, alongside my child. I presented chronic

fatigue

> > (brutal), with paradoxical cortisol response and beginings of

> > fibromyalgia, with a very depresed inmune system towards virus,

so

> I

> > was fatigued and sick all the time. 1 year after removal of

> amalgams

> > and at least 40 rounds of chelation had not been able to

alleviate

> > my fatigue, and I spent day after day in bed. It improved

sligtly

> > this September, 18 months after removal of amalgams and 12

months

> > into chelation.

> >

> > In the mean time I moved, and my improvement went so fast, even

> > though I couldn't chelate for about 3 months, that I realized

one

> of

> > the factors that was keeping me down was not having perfected my

> > particular coctail of supplements, and living in an apartment

that

> > had mold inside the walls due to internal leaks, the mold was

> > literally killing me, even though only a few mold stains

appeared

> in

> > the bathroom walls.

> >

> > So I have done 58 rounds of chelation for myself, both with DMPS

> and

> > DMSA, 55 of which have been with ALA, every 3 hours for 3 days.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Raquel

> >

>

May 6, 2006

my son just turned 9 yrs old and i have been doing bio medical treatments for 6

yrs now. i dont feel my son is " too old " for bio med to make a difference in

his life. i have a tough nut kiddo. if he were easy and would of responded to

things i did when he was 3 yrs old, he could of very possibly of lost his diag.

or at least be very hf.

i dont care how old he gets, im gonna keep trying. older children do very

well too. case point, i am currently attacking the viruses aggressively (OLE,

cumanda, lauricidin. i might add a little transfer factor #8 later) and already

i am seeing a slight difference. my son was on valtrex for ever and i noticed

a little jump cognitively but, valtrex ALONE wasnt enough for my son. i just now

found this out. i didnt want to put a lot of suppliments into him cause of prev

reactions. however, after the results of the neuroscience viral panel, my son

has major issues with viruses and metals. we are doing td dmps and just started

10-05.

it's never too late for any child. bottom line: find what will work for your

particular child and get him/her help. may take a while " experimenting " with

meds/suppliments/testing. but, when you find a piece of the puzzle, it's all

worth it.

vicki

eugui6 <raquelerro@...> wrote:

Hi Jan:

Thank you so much for your encouragement. I was looking for clues

that pointed towards recovery of older kids, like the comment from

Andy you mentioned. If you remember the post, or other posts from

moms that had their older kids imporving or recovering, I would love

to read them, I think at times that I am not doing enough or I may

be missing something vital in my interventions. I wish youthe best

for your two sons.

Gratefully,

Raquel

> >

> > First the good news:

> >

> > My son is about to turn 5 yo. He was borderline autistic when he

> was

> > evaluated when he turned 3 in 2004. He had speech but couldn't

> > answer questions, had echolalia, intense sensory stuff and rigid

> > ways, toewalking, flapping of hands, and catastrophic crying. I

> > started chelation at the age of 3 1/2. He has had 56 rounds of

> > chelation on AC protocol using TD DMPS, 38 of these rounds have

> been

> > with TD ALA also, on a 3 hour for 3 days schedule.

> >

> > We have very mild negative side effects, just a little more

> > crankiness and crying when he is chelating and he has a touch of

a

> > cold or allergies.

> >

> > There are lots of improvements while he is chelating. During the

> > last round he asked for a mirror to look at the bubu in his

elbow,

> > and spelled the word " cat " with magnets, that his dad had taught

> him

> > a few months ago, spontaneously!

> >

> > With 38 rounds of TD ALA under his belt, he is less than half

way

> > through chelation and he is about to turn 5 in a few days. I

have

> > read about how important it is to chelate before the age of 5,

> > because of this marking the end of a biologically determined

brain

> > growth spur (sp) and the solidification of neurological pathways

> and

> > consequent permanent brain damage, and now I fear that my son

will

> > never recover fully since he is turning 5 and is only partially

> > chelated.

> >

> > Comments, ideas? I am really strugling with this.

> >

> > I want to share my update too with youy guys since I have also

> been

> > chelating myself, alongside my child. I presented chronic

fatigue

> > (brutal), with paradoxical cortisol response and beginings of

> > fibromyalgia, with a very depresed inmune system towards virus,

so

> I

> > was fatigued and sick all the time. 1 year after removal of

> amalgams

> > and at least 40 rounds of chelation had not been able to

alleviate

> > my fatigue, and I spent day after day in bed. It improved

sligtly

> > this September, 18 months after removal of amalgams and 12

months

> > into chelation.

> >

> > In the mean time I moved, and my improvement went so fast, even

> > though I couldn't chelate for about 3 months, that I realized

one

> of

> > the factors that was keeping me down was not having perfected my

> > particular coctail of supplements, and living in an apartment

that

> > had mold inside the walls due to internal leaks, the mold was

> > literally killing me, even though only a few mold stains

appeared

> in

> > the bathroom walls.

> >

> > So I have done 58 rounds of chelation for myself, both with DMPS

> and

> > DMSA, 55 of which have been with ALA, every 3 hours for 3 days.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Raquel

> >

>

=======================================================

May 6, 2006

Barb Romkema's son is in his 20s and in college. He continues to make

progress...

S S

Hi Jan:

Thank you so much for your encouragement. I was looking for clues

that pointed towards recovery of older kids, like the comment from

Andy you mentioned. If you remember the post, or other posts from

moms that had their older kids imporving or recovering, I would love

to read them, I think at times that I am not doing enough or I may

be missing something vital in my interventions. I wish youthe best

for your two sons.

Gratefully,

Raquel

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May 6, 2006

Don't worry about the 5 yr. date. That's kind of an old idea, now that

we've seen 16-yr. olds improve. My son is 25 and he is still improving on

chelation and methyl B-12 shots.

Barb

[ ] 56 round Chelation update and is it too late for

my 5 yo child?

> First the good news:

>

> My son is about to turn 5 yo. He was borderline autistic when he was

> evaluated when he turned 3 in 2004. He had speech but couldn't

> answer questions, had echolalia, intense sensory stuff and rigid

> ways, toewalking, flapping of hands, and catastrophic crying. I

> started chelation at the age of 3 1/2. He has had 56 rounds of

> chelation on AC protocol using TD DMPS, 38 of these rounds have been

> with TD ALA also, on a 3 hour for 3 days schedule.

>

> We have very mild negative side effects, just a little more

> crankiness and crying when he is chelating and he has a touch of a

> cold or allergies.

>

> There are lots of improvements while he is chelating. During the

> last round he asked for a mirror to look at the bubu in his elbow,

> and spelled the word " cat " with magnets, that his dad had taught him

> a few months ago, spontaneously!

>

> With 38 rounds of TD ALA under his belt, he is less than half way

> through chelation and he is about to turn 5 in a few days. I have

> read about how important it is to chelate before the age of 5,

> because of this marking the end of a biologically determined brain

> growth spur (sp) and the solidification of neurological pathways and

> consequent permanent brain damage, and now I fear that my son will

> never recover fully since he is turning 5 and is only partially

> chelated.

>

> Comments, ideas? I am really strugling with this.

>

> I want to share my update too with youy guys since I have also been

> chelating myself, alongside my child. I presented chronic fatigue

> (brutal), with paradoxical cortisol response and beginings of

> fibromyalgia, with a very depresed inmune system towards virus, so I

> was fatigued and sick all the time. 1 year after removal of amalgams

> and at least 40 rounds of chelation had not been able to alleviate

> my fatigue, and I spent day after day in bed. It improved sligtly

> this September, 18 months after removal of amalgams and 12 months

> into chelation.

>

> In the mean time I moved, and my improvement went so fast, even

> though I couldn't chelate for about 3 months, that I realized one of

> the factors that was keeping me down was not having perfected my

> particular coctail of supplements, and living in an apartment that

> had mold inside the walls due to internal leaks, the mold was

> literally killing me, even though only a few mold stains appeared in

> the bathroom walls.

>

> So I have done 58 rounds of chelation for myself, both with DMPS and

> DMSA, 55 of which have been with ALA, every 3 hours for 3 days.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Raquel

>

> =======================================================

>

May 6, 2006

I don't know for sure, of course, but you've probably hit the stall period that

Andy talks about. Assuming they've reached the end, a lot of people quit during

this period and their children never receive the full benefits of this therapy.

[ ] 56 round Chelation update and is it too late for my

5 yo child?

First the good news:

My son is about to turn 5 yo. He was borderline autistic when he was

evaluated when he turned 3 in 2004. He had speech but couldn't

answer questions, had echolalia, intense sensory stuff and rigid

ways, toewalking, flapping of hands, and catastrophic crying. I

started chelation at the age of 3 1/2. He has had 56 rounds of

chelation on AC protocol using TD DMPS, 38 of these rounds have been

with TD ALA also, on a 3 hour for 3 days schedule.

We have very mild negative side effects, just a little more

crankiness and crying when he is chelating and he has a touch of a

cold or allergies.

There are lots of improvements while he is chelating. During the

last round he asked for a mirror to look at the bubu in his elbow,

and spelled the word " cat " with magnets, that his dad had taught him

a few months ago, spontaneously!

With 38 rounds of TD ALA under his belt, he is less than half way

through chelation and he is about to turn 5 in a few days. I have

read about how important it is to chelate before the age of 5,

because of this marking the end of a biologically determined brain

growth spur (sp) and the solidification of neurological pathways and

consequent permanent brain damage, and now I fear that my son will

never recover fully since he is turning 5 and is only partially

chelated.

Comments, ideas? I am really strugling with this.

I want to share my update too with youy guys since I have also been

chelating myself, alongside my child. I presented chronic fatigue

(brutal), with paradoxical cortisol response and beginings of

fibromyalgia, with a very depresed inmune system towards virus, so I

was fatigued and sick all the time. 1 year after removal of amalgams

and at least 40 rounds of chelation had not been able to alleviate

my fatigue, and I spent day after day in bed. It improved sligtly

this September, 18 months after removal of amalgams and 12 months

into chelation.

In the mean time I moved, and my improvement went so fast, even

though I couldn't chelate for about 3 months, that I realized one of

the factors that was keeping me down was not having perfected my

particular coctail of supplements, and living in an apartment that

had mold inside the walls due to internal leaks, the mold was

literally killing me, even though only a few mold stains appeared in

the bathroom walls.

So I have done 58 rounds of chelation for myself, both with DMPS and

DMSA, 55 of which have been with ALA, every 3 hours for 3 days.

Best wishes,

Raquel

=======================================================

May 6, 2006

Have you tried HBOT? Our son (HFA) is 41/2 and we just did our first

10 dives and are seeing great cognitive improvement. The theory is

the pure oxygen/pressure rejuvenates cells that were " switched off "

or are dormant due to encephalitis (swelling) from whatever caused

the damage. With us it was the DTAP shot. Gosh I hope it's not too

late at 5 yrs. We just started our first round of chelation so we

are way behind you.

Flo

>

> First the good news:

>

> My son is about to turn 5 yo. He was borderline autistic when he

was

> evaluated when he turned 3 in 2004. He had speech but couldn't

> answer questions, had echolalia, intense sensory stuff and rigid

> ways, toewalking, flapping of hands, and catastrophic crying. I

> started chelation at the age of 3 1/2. He has had 56 rounds of

> chelation on AC protocol using TD DMPS, 38 of these rounds have

been

> with TD ALA also, on a 3 hour for 3 days schedule.

>

> We have very mild negative side effects, just a little more

> crankiness and crying when he is chelating and he has a touch of a

> cold or allergies.

>

> There are lots of improvements while he is chelating. During the

> last round he asked for a mirror to look at the bubu in his elbow,

> and spelled the word " cat " with magnets, that his dad had taught

him

> a few months ago, spontaneously!

>

> With 38 rounds of TD ALA under his belt, he is less than half way

> through chelation and he is about to turn 5 in a few days. I have

> read about how important it is to chelate before the age of 5,

> because of this marking the end of a biologically determined brain

> growth spur (sp) and the solidification of neurological pathways

and

> consequent permanent brain damage, and now I fear that my son will

> never recover fully since he is turning 5 and is only partially

> chelated.

>

> Comments, ideas? I am really strugling with this.

>

> I want to share my update too with youy guys since I have also

been

> chelating myself, alongside my child. I presented chronic fatigue

> (brutal), with paradoxical cortisol response and beginings of

> fibromyalgia, with a very depresed inmune system towards virus, so

I

> was fatigued and sick all the time. 1 year after removal of

amalgams

> and at least 40 rounds of chelation had not been able to alleviate

> my fatigue, and I spent day after day in bed. It improved sligtly

> this September, 18 months after removal of amalgams and 12 months

> into chelation.

>

> In the mean time I moved, and my improvement went so fast, even

> though I couldn't chelate for about 3 months, that I realized one

of

> the factors that was keeping me down was not having perfected my

> particular coctail of supplements, and living in an apartment that

> had mold inside the walls due to internal leaks, the mold was

> literally killing me, even though only a few mold stains appeared

in

> the bathroom walls.

>

> So I have done 58 rounds of chelation for myself, both with DMPS

and

> DMSA, 55 of which have been with ALA, every 3 hours for 3 days.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Raquel

>

May 6, 2006

I mentioned about the stall, but forgot to mention our son started at four years

and nine months old.