Re: Vaccines for older typical child

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child with autism and

vaccine related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to colleges and her

pediatrician is pushing her to have the 3 Hep B series as well as the HPV series

of three shots to prevent cervical cancer. She also wants to update her tetanus

shot. Can I get some feedback regarding these shots and whether I should give

in?

Thanks,

Phyllis

[Guest guest]

Hi Phyllis,

My supposed NT daughter aged 12 reacted badly to Hep B (first shot)

in March this year, and we still struggling to regain her health.

She has had at least 3 severe " viruses " since that time, each time

she is sick she misses at least a fortnight of school.

So in summary, I wouldn't give it to my dog let alone my child

again.

na

Australia

>

> Hi,

> I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child

with autism and vaccine related issues(MMR). My daughter is

applying to colleges and her pediatrician is pushing her to have the

3 Hep B series as well as the HPV series of three shots to prevent

cervical cancer. She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I

get some feedback regarding these shots and whether I should give

in?

> Thanks,

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

DON'T do it~

Hep is only necessary if she is planning on having gay sex or becoming

an IV drug user. The HPV shot is bogus and has not been around long

enough to prove safety. You can prevent the contraction of HPV by

simply using a condom..which all single people should be anyway...with

all the other disease out there. Also, many strains of HPV do not

cause cancer. HPV is treatable via antivirals.

There is a lot of junk in these vaccines in addition to the viruses.

Read the ingredients list available from the manufacturer.

My dad had that Hep series from his job back when it first came out,

and he got really sick. He never recovered entirely and his health has

done nothing but decline over the years following those shots.

Never give in to anything that you do not completely beleive in. A

healthy 17 year old does not need these immune insults. At at what

cost to her future health? Vaccines are responsible for autoimmune

disease, and other things.

Tetanus does not need to be given unless and only if she is actually

injured to a degree that would warrant concern. Such as a deep wound

that got dirt in it. And as I have read it, there are natural ways to

combat tetanus if one did get it. Which is almost never in the modern

age of cleaning wounds. Personally, the risk of your child getting any

of the disease these vaccine are supposed to fix are nil. I would read

more on what is really in vaccines...this alone changed my mind.

Especially if you have a child on the spectrum. This gives higher risk

to her getting damage or sick from more vaccines.

>

> Hi,

> I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child with

autism and vaccine related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to

colleges and her pediatrician is pushing her to have the 3 Hep B

series as well as the HPV series of three shots to prevent cervical

cancer. She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I get some

feedback regarding these shots and whether I should give in?

> Thanks,

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child with

autism and vaccine related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to

colleges and her pediatrician is pushing her to have the 3 Hep B series

My son was autistic because of a HepB shot, so I wouldn't recommend

it. Do you suspect her of being prone to promiscuous sex? Or IV drug

use?

Does she understand what shots did to her sibling?

>> as well as the HPV series of three shots to prevent cervical cancer.

I don't know much about this shot, except that it is a virus. My son

still has high virus issues, altho they are reducing because of

anti-virals. I certainly would not agree to inject more viruses into

his body.

>>She also wants to update her tetanus shot.

Usually contains mercury. Check here

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

>>Can I get some feedback regarding these shots and whether I should

give in?

I would not allow the shots. Give her all the information you know

of, and tell her that when she is 18, she can make her own decisions.

But do let her know that if she decides to get shots, and they cause

problems for her, that you will be there for her to help her heal from

whatever problems they might cause.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My youngest sister was 16 when the school sent home a letter urging parents to

consent for the HEP B . My son had regressed into autism at 22mos but 10 months

later we still did not have a solid diagnosis nor had we made the connection.

My mother consented for my sister to recieve the HEP B at school and she has

been miserable ever since. The next day she complained that her knees elbows

and ankles were hurting she could not even get out of bed. This has continued

on and she was later diagnosed w/ fybermialgia. Since my son regressed and after

watching my sister dibilitate so rapidly I do not advocate for ANY vaccines at

all.

April

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[Guest guest]

Probably true there.

It goes back to the original idea of practicing safe or no sex.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child

with

> autism and vaccine related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to

> colleges and her pediatrician is pushing her to have the 3 Hep B

> series as well as the HPV series of three shots to prevent

cervical

> cancer. She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I get some

> feedback regarding these shots and whether I should give in?

> > Thanks,

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Phyllis,

My 12 yr old NT daughter got very messed up by the Hep B shot (given

at age 12). Definitely look into exemptions, even if it costs

legal advice.

na

>

> My 18 year old will be attending college in the fall and they are

saying certain vaccines are mandatory. due to the vaccine related

issues that my son has, I don't want her to have any more vaccines.

does anyone know about getting a vaccine waiver, mainly for the hep b

series, for college?

>

> thanks,

> Phyllis M. Kizner

> Cureasd@...<mailto:Cureasd@...>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Check out the info from NVIC.

HPV and Hep B are sexually transmitted diseases. Hopefully teens and

young adults have been taught safe, reasonable sex practices (whether

abstinence or otherwise). The HPV (Gardasil) vaccine already has a

terrible and frightening history of damage to young women, and I don't

think there's proof it works. Not worth the potential damage. Hep B is

a stupid vaccine all the way around.

Incidentally, there's a new group for Hepatitis infections.

Apparently, children being adopted from outside the U.S. often come

with Hep B. LDN (low dose naltrexone) and antioxidant treatments

including ALA are successfully knocking Hep B out completely.

Tetanus might be an exception for the vaccine-leery. We have

homeopaths who do not vaccinate - except for tetanus. But what is the

likelihood of getting tetanus anymore?

http://www.909shot.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatitis_B

[Guest guest]

> Tetanus might be an exception for the vaccine-leery. We have

> homeopaths who do not vaccinate - except for tetanus. But what is the

> likelihood of getting tetanus anymore?

Non-vaccine info for tetanus

http://www.mothering.com/sections/experts/tenpenny-archive.html#tetanus

Dana

[Guest guest]

My ds started his health and mental difficulties after his newborn HepB

shot. Also my sister got her Hep shots before college and she has some

problems with her mind now, as well as chronic fatigue and muscle

aches. As far as the HPV vaccine my personal concerns with that vaccine

is that, like all other things we put in our bodies, we will pass this

vaccine onto the next generation while in the womb, and possibly cause

problems like sterility for the next generation of men.

You do have a very difficult choice ahead of you, one that I'm not

looking forward to facing someday. Good luck.

>

> Hi,

> I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child with

autism and vaccine related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to

colleges and her pediatrician is pushing her to have the 3 Hep B series

as well as the HPV series of three shots to prevent cervical cancer.

She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I get some feedback

regarding these shots and whether I should give in?

> Thanks,

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just to note that my father was given the Hep B series at age 45

through his employer and got very sick after each vaccines. His health

has been steadily declining since then. This seemed to trigger a lot

of problems for him.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child with

> autism and vaccine related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to

> colleges and her pediatrician is pushing her to have the 3 Hep B series

> as well as the HPV series of three shots to prevent cervical cancer.

> She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I get some feedback

> regarding these shots and whether I should give in?

> > Thanks,

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Posted by: " judyl_nev " juude@... judyl_nev

Date: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:30 pm ((PDT))

[...]

>Incidentally, there's a new group for Hepatitis infections.

>Apparently, children being adopted from outside the U.S. often come

>with Hep B. LDN (low dose naltrexone) and antioxidant treatments

>including ALA are successfully knocking Hep B out completely.

You do know that ALA should not be used for anything but chelation on a proper

schedule and after all Hg exposures have been removed, right?

Just making sure ...

[...]

Dave.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child with autism

and vaccine

related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to colleges and her pediatrician

is pushing

her to have the 3 Hep B series as well as the HPV series of three shots to

prevent cervical

cancer. She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I get some feedback

regarding

these shots and whether I should give in?

Don't give in, and do change pediatricians.

Make it very clear to the next one that vaccines are not to be discussed with

the child.

Let some other families find out what the experimental HPV vaccine is going to

do to their

daughters. After it has been out a few years things may be clearer.

The Hep B series is associated with some of the worst casese I've consulted on.

It is really

a problem vaccine, above and beyond the thimerosal.

Most shots NOT for small children do still have thimerosal.

These shots are all for venerial diseases, a rational discussion of sexuality

will make them

a lot less relevant.

E. g. 'rational' means things like realizing the kid is going to have sex and

not tell you

about it, and probably do it for fun with people you wouldn't approve of, but

helping her

understand and appreciate how much more fun and satisfying it is to do it with

people she

has gotten to know enough that she genuinely likes them. By getting to know them

that

well beforehand she's got a reasonable chance of finding out if they are at risk

of having

this kind of ick and deciding that maybe they'd better just be friends.

> Thanks,

> Phyllis

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I agree with the sentiment, but actually the greater risk in women comes

> from heterosexual sex.

>

> Jim

Yes, hepatitis B is mostly a perfectly ordinary venerial disease.

It can be contracted the usual way, through contaminated food, so it isn't

entirely just a

venerial disease. However this is the major risk for most people. Normal

heterosexual

activity transmits it just fine.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Phyllis,

My son reacted (cried for 10 hours straight) to his Hep B shot the

day he was born and although we're doing everything biomed to help,

he is still strongly on the spectrum. There is a lawsuit in France

over the Hep B and it is banned in many countries because of the

severity and volume of negative reactions. They are now seeing

links between autism and schizophrenia (which manifests usually in

the college years). It's not a risk I'd be willing to take. Head

the warnings here. It's just not worth it.

> >

> > Hi,

> > I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child

with autism and vaccine

> related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to colleges and her

pediatrician is pushing

> her to have the 3 Hep B series as well as the HPV series of three

shots to prevent cervical

> cancer. She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I get

some feedback regarding

> these shots and whether I should give in?

>

> Don't give in, and do change pediatricians.

>

> Make it very clear to the next one that vaccines are not to be

discussed with the child.

>

> Let some other families find out what the experimental HPV vaccine

is going to do to their

> daughters. After it has been out a few years things may be

clearer.

>

> The Hep B series is associated with some of the worst casese I've

consulted on. It is really

> a problem vaccine, above and beyond the thimerosal.

>

> Most shots NOT for small children do still have thimerosal.

>

> These shots are all for venerial diseases, a rational discussion

of sexuality will make them

> a lot less relevant.

>

> E. g. 'rational' means things like realizing the kid is going to

have sex and not tell you

> about it, and probably do it for fun with people you wouldn't

approve of, but helping her

> understand and appreciate how much more fun and satisfying it is

to do it with people she

> has gotten to know enough that she genuinely likes them. By

getting to know them that

> well beforehand she's got a reasonable chance of finding out if

they are at risk of having

> this kind of ick and deciding that maybe they'd better just be

friends.

>

> > Thanks,

> > Phyllis

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I read this and it's why I advocate people not get this, it's a

human experiment rushed to the public at the expense of our young

ladies future health. There's no proof it works or that it won't hurt

you. Now they plan to push this at young males next by saying it will

keep them from contracting or spreading HPV. Again, there's no proof

it will do that either. So those with young boys..get your exemptions

ready!

Other girls in my dd's school are getting this and getting very sick

afterwards. Sad.

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > I have a 17 year old that is typical and an 11 year old child

> > with autism and vaccine

> > > related issues(MMR). My daughter is applying to colleges and her

> > pediatrician is pushing

> > > her to have the 3 Hep B series as well as the HPV series of three

> > shots to prevent cervical

> > > cancer. She also wants to update her tetanus shot. Can I get

> > some feedback regarding

> > > these shots and whether I should give in?

> > >

> > > Don't give in, and do change pediatricians.

> > >

> > > Make it very clear to the next one that vaccines are not to be

> > discussed with the child.

> > >

> > > Let some other families find out what the experimental HPV vaccine

> > is going to do to their

> > > daughters. After it has been out a few years things may be

> > clearer.

> > >

> > > The Hep B series is associated with some of the worst casese I've

> > consulted on. It is really

> > > a problem vaccine, above and beyond the thimerosal.

> > >

> > > Most shots NOT for small children do still have thimerosal.

> > >

> > > These shots are all for venerial diseases, a rational discussion

> > of sexuality will make them

> > > a lot less relevant.

> > >

> > > E. g. 'rational' means things like realizing the kid is going to

> > have sex and not tell you

> > > about it, and probably do it for fun with people you wouldn't

> > approve of, but helping her

> > > understand and appreciate how much more fun and satisfying it is

> > to do it with people she

> > > has gotten to know enough that she genuinely likes them. By

> > getting to know them that

> > > well beforehand she's got a reasonable chance of finding out if

> > they are at risk of having

> > > this kind of ick and deciding that maybe they'd better just be

> > friends.

> > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Phyllis

> > > >

> > > >