Re: My Son's 2nd Round -- Problems -- Advice Please

[Guest guest]

Yes, three reasons to stop a round:

A fever of 101 or higher

Vomiting

Lethargy

Hope your little guy feels better.

[ ] My Son's 2nd Round -- Problems -- Advice Please

We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg ALA

every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have run

into the following problems:

On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was this

appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of DMSA? Is

their a transdermal form of ALA available?

Please advise.

Thanks.

Abid

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[Guest guest]

Abid,

The exact same thing happened to us when we accidentally gave our daughter too

much chelator...25 mg of each instead of our regular 12.5mg. Within hours she

had a fever and threw up. You actually might need to lower the dose even more.

For the first few rounds though, even though she didn't throw up, she did get a

slight fever. It would only last 24-36 hours and then be done. I think it's a

pretty common side effect. She was also somewhat lethargic and sleepy the whole

round.

Now that we're on round 31, that's not a problem any more. I would say those

side effects ended around round 20.

Not sure about the Motrin. We never used it.

Hope this helps,

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From: " A_BIT_SOLUTIONS " <a_bit_solutions@...>

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> We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

> this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg ALA

> every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have run

> into the following problems:

>

> On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was this

> appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

>

> Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

>

> What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of DMSA? Is

> their a transdermal form of ALA available?

>

> Please advise.

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

> Abid

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

,

For Round 1, we gave 10mg DMSA only and he did fine. I added the ALA now and

he has a fever and doesn't want to eat anything -- we stopped chelating.

What should I do now? Should I eliminate the ALA? Should I reduce the total

dosage of ALA & DMSA?

julieobradovic@... wrote:

Abid,

The exact same thing happened to us when we accidentally gave our daughter too

much chelator...25 mg of each instead of our regular 12.5mg. Within hours she

had a fever and threw up. You actually might need to lower the dose even more.

For the first few rounds though, even though she didn't throw up, she did get a

slight fever. It would only last 24-36 hours and then be done. I think it's a

pretty common side effect. She was also somewhat lethargic and sleepy the whole

round.

Now that we're on round 31, that's not a problem any more. I would say those

side effects ended around round 20.

Not sure about the Motrin. We never used it.

Hope this helps,

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From: " A_BIT_SOLUTIONS " <a_bit_solutions@...>

>

> We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

> this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg ALA

> every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have run

> into the following problems:

>

> On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was this

> appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

>

> Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

>

> What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of DMSA? Is

> their a transdermal form of ALA available?

>

> Please advise.

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

> Abid

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

,

What do you advise I do next? I stopped chelating. Should I restart with a

lower dosage? Eliminate the ALA?

Thanks.

Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

Yes, three reasons to stop a round:

A fever of 101 or higher

Vomiting

Lethargy

Hope your little guy feels better.

[ ] My Son's 2nd Round -- Problems -- Advice Please

We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg ALA

every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have run

into the following problems:

On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was this

appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of DMSA? Is

their a transdermal form of ALA available?

Please advise.

Thanks.

Abid

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[Guest guest]

I presume he has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings and hasn't had any removed

in the last 3-4 months. Does he happen to be a high copper kid?

S S

<BR>

  Abid,<BR>

<BR>

The exact same thing happened to us when we accidentally gave our daughter too

much chelator...25 mg of each instead of our regular 12.5mg. Within hours she

had a fever and threw up. You actually might need to lower the dose even

more.<BR>

<BR>

For the first few rounds though, even though she didn't throw up, she did get a

slight fever. It would only last 24-36 hours and then be done. I think it's a

pretty common side effect. She was also somewhat lethargic and sleepy the whole

round.<BR>

<BR>

Now that we're on round 31, that's not a problem any more. I would say those

side effects ended around round 20.<BR>

<BR>

Not sure about the Motrin. We never used it.<BR>

<BR>

Hope this helps,<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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From: " A_BIT_SOLUTIONS " <a_bit_solutions@...> <BR>

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> <BR>

> We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In <BR>

> this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg ALA <BR>

> every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have run <BR>

> into the following problems: <BR>

> <BR>

> On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was this <BR>

> appropriate? Should we stop chelation? <BR>

> <BR>

> Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators. <BR>

> <BR>

> What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of DMSA? Is <BR>

> their a transdermal form of ALA available? <BR>

> <BR>

> Please advise. <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> Thanks. <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> Abid <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> ======================================================= <BR>

>

[Guest guest]

try this website...

http://www.ourkidsasd.com/

they have TD of just about everything...it is Lee Silsby Compounding

Pharmacy. I have been using them since November...they have TD B-12,

ALA, DMSA and I've also ordered LDN in a TD form. I have only tried

the Dmsa and the B-12 so far...without any problems. Oh yeah, I did

TD-dmps as well. Good luck!

> Yes, three reasons to stop a round:

>

> A fever of 101 or higher

> Vomiting

> Lethargy

>

> Hope your little guy feels better.

>

>

> [ ] My Son's 2nd Round -- Problems --

Advice Please

>

>

>

> We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

> this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg

ALA

> every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have

run

> into the following problems:

>

> On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was

this

> appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

>

> Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

>

> What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of

DMSA? Is

> their a transdermal form of ALA available?

>

> Please advise.

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

> Abid

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

> this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg ALA

> every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have

run

> into the following problems:

>

> On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was this

> appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

>

> Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

>

> What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of DMSA?

Is

> their a transdermal form of ALA available?

>

> Please advise.

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

> Abid

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you got my email.

When I started chelating my son with TD DMSA I was dumb enough to do

it on a 48 hour protocol, even though I started using DMPS orally

for myself in a 8 hour protocol.

As a result, by the third aplication, my son had a low grade fever,

was listless, mostly unresponding to his surroundings, and

eventually vomited, which caused my husband to forcefully suspend

chelation even though I thought he was having a virus. He was right.

These three symptoms are signs of acute mercury posioning. And he

was getting the acute poisoning through redistribution.

Your son having a low fever and vomit could just be a virus, but

there are two red flags, one is that he had no problems when he

chelated with DMSA only, the other red flag is that, from your post,

it seems you have been giving ALA every 3.5 hours. This will cause

redistribution and thus the symptoms you are seeing. ALA 1/2 life is

a little under 3 hours, it is OK to give ALA every 4 hours at night

to get some sleep, but giving the complete round every 3.5 hours is

obviously not good for your child.

I am glad you stopped. Wait a few days and see how your son reacts.

In a few days too you can start chelating again, try giving the ALA

every 3 hours (I do it at night too), and hopefully all will go well.

Raquel

> >

> >

> > We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

> > this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg

ALA

> > every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have

> run

> > into the following problems:

> >

> > On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was

this

> > appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

> >

> > Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

> >

> > What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of

DMSA?

> Is

> > their a transdermal form of ALA available?

> >

> > Please advise.

> >

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> >

> > Abid

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

He has never had amalgam fillings. I'm not sure how to determine if he is

high on copper. According to his hair test, he was in the green for this -- so

he may have normal copper.

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

I presume he has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings and hasn't had any removed

in the last 3-4 months. Does he happen to be a high copper kid?

S S

Abid,

The exact same thing happened to us when we accidentally gave our daughter too

much chelator...25 mg of each instead of our regular 12.5mg. Within hours she

had a fever and threw up. You actually might need to lower the dose even more.

For the first few rounds though, even though she didn't throw up, she did get a

slight fever. It would only last 24-36 hours and then be done. I think it's a

pretty common side effect. She was also somewhat lethargic and sleepy the whole

round.

Now that we're on round 31, that's not a problem any more. I would say those

side effects ended around round 20.

Not sure about the Motrin. We never used it.

Hope this helps,

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " A_BIT_SOLUTIONS "

>

> We are on my son's (5y.o. and 38lbs) 2nd round of chelation. In

> this round, we introduced ALA. We are giving 10mg DMSA + 10mg ALA

> every 3.5 hours (we put the mixture into apple juice). We have run

> into the following problems:

>

> On day 2 he has a 102 degree fever. We gave him Advil. Was this

> appropriate? Should we stop chelation?

>

> Also, he seems to be throwing up his chelators.

>

> What should I do? Should I be using a transdermal form of DMSA? Is

> their a transdermal form of ALA available?

>

> Please advise.

>

>

> Thanks.

>

>

> Abid

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>