Re: Xymogen Phosphaline: anyone using something like this?

[Guest guest]

Pam,

We have those same issues here. I am thinking they are viral/immune

related, since we get nice bumps every time I run antivirals with

him and when he is on astragalus.

Anne

>

> Hi,

>

> I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his DAN!

> doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr. Usman

> recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with Xymogen's

> Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

>

> Any contraindications to using this supplement or this brand

> specifically?

>

> I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb son. He

does

> not generally require low/slow dose increases in new supplements,

> but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those supps

that

> can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat (like

> GSE, Candex, etc).

>

> We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question due to

> skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts but no

> resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out in losing

> the Autism diagnosis.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Anne,

I'm going to restart olive leaf extract when we get back from Disney

on the 10th. I gave OLE a measely effort this summer (I hit a

supplement wall; got sick of it all). His titers do not show

anything abnormal, but we have not tested for chicken pox, Hep or

strep yet.

Let's see what happens. Thanks.

Pam

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his

DAN!

> > doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> > receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr. Usman

> > recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with Xymogen's

> > Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> > Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

> >

> > Any contraindications to using this supplement or this brand

> > specifically?

> >

> > I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb son. He

> does

> > not generally require low/slow dose increases in new

supplements,

> > but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those supps

> that

> > can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat (like

> > GSE, Candex, etc).

> >

> > We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question due

to

> > skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts but

no

> > resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> > receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out in

losing

> > the Autism diagnosis.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Pam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Pam,

Do you have any immune system support in place? I have found that

rather than run antivirals straight, we are faring better with

underlying support in place. Currently my little guy is on

colostrum, neutrophil plus, transfer factor, and rotating astragalus

and echinacea each for a week a month. The echinacea doesn't seem

to do squat, but the astragalus is very good. I also have lysine in

place, since it is clear we have HHV6 issues, and hard core yeast

protocol. We found that running Valtrex was good in many respects,

but too taxing on his system right now. All that said, your kiddo

might have a better immune system than my little guy....

Anne

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his

> DAN!

> > > doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> > > receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr.

Usman

> > > recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with Xymogen's

> > > Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> > > Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

> > >

> > > Any contraindications to using this supplement or this brand

> > > specifically?

> > >

> > > I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb son. He

> > does

> > > not generally require low/slow dose increases in new

> supplements,

> > > but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those supps

> > that

> > > can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat

(like

> > > GSE, Candex, etc).

> > >

> > > We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question due

> to

> > > skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts but

> no

> > > resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> > > receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out in

> losing

> > > the Autism diagnosis.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Pam

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his DAN!

> doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> receptive language delays and conversation skills

What my son needed for language is written here

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

One thing I have really noticed lately, is that viruses = no language.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

We have the HHV6 issue and would like to start Valtrex. Could you

tell me exactly what you recommend be started/have in place first? I

think his immune system is pretty good as far as colds and flus, but

very elevated HHV6 Igg. I know you mention Lysine, anything else a

*must* before starting the antiviral? Any advice is appreciated.

Thank you,

Millie

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his

> > DAN!

> > > > doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> > > > receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr.

> Usman

> > > > recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with Xymogen's

> > > > Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> > > > Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

> > > >

> > > > Any contraindications to using this supplement or this brand

> > > > specifically?

> > > >

> > > > I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb son.

He

> > > does

> > > > not generally require low/slow dose increases in new

> > supplements,

> > > > but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those

supps

> > > that

> > > > can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat

> (like

> > > > GSE, Candex, etc).

> > > >

> > > > We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question

due

> > to

> > > > skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts

but

> > no

> > > > resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> > > > receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out in

> > losing

> > > > the Autism diagnosis.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > Pam

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam hi Guys/ Gals.been a while from last post but still reading

daily. (miss ya all dearly).

Anyway I did look into Phosphatidylcholine not to long ago but didn't

pursue it as I was focussing more on chelation. But now am also

interested for a few reasons. From what I gather it is good for liver

support enzyme production as well as building cell membranes. I

believe that it is 3 times more potent than lecithin in which it

helps transport bile, acids and breaks down fat deposits in the body.

All I can say is I have heard lot of good reports about Phosphaline,

more recently the phosphatidylcholine from Xymogen, but we have not

used it yet.

There seems to be some promising results so

If anyone else has info to share I would also appreciate his or her

experience?

I think a while ago Anita touched on this and am not sure if she is

using it.

It seems that other products are derived from soy , Does anyone know

if this products is also soy based ?

Thanks again for any further info

As Always my best

Kenny v

>

> Hi,

>

> I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his DAN!

> doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr. Usman

> recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with Xymogen's

> Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

>

> Any contraindications to using this supplement or this brand

> specifically?

>

> I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb son. He does

> not generally require low/slow dose increases in new supplements,

> but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those supps that

> can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat (like

> GSE, Candex, etc).

>

> We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question due to

> skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts but no

> resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out in losing

> the Autism diagnosis.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if this brand has any soy in it? I just called the company

and they couldn't answer the question. Maybe one of our parents out there

is more knowledgeable.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:52 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Xymogen Phosphaline: anyone using something

like this?

Pam,

We have those same issues here. I am thinking they are viral/immune

related, since we get nice bumps every time I run antivirals with

him and when he is on astragalus.

Anne

>

> Hi,

>

> I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his DAN!

> doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr. Usman

> recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with Xymogen's

> Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

>

> Any contraindications to using this supplement or this brand

> specifically?

>

> I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb son. He

does

> not generally require low/slow dose increases in new supplements,

> but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those supps

that

> can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat (like

> GSE, Candex, etc).

>

> We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question due to

> skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts but no

> resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out in losing

> the Autism diagnosis.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

Millie,

Here is a list where Valtrex is talked about a lot:

mb12 valtrex/. The

recommendation there (and I would second it) is to have an Rx

antifungal on board when you introduce Valtrex. In our case and

many others, yeast was outrageous.

There are lots of immune system support products you can use. You

might look in the file. Our listmate, Anita, put together a viral

file that is well worth a thorough read. And, if you do go the

antiviral route, do your research and be ready for a roller coaster

ride. We didn't see much bad from the Valtrex except yeast, but

others get rashes, fevers, and other crazy things.... We did see

good stuff.

Right now we are using Colostrum, Lysine and Transfer Factor 560

instead of the Valtrex. The latter is supposedly engineered with

HHV6 in mind. We have only been using it for a few days, but I do

think it is helping. Again though, we have so many variables I

often don't know exactly what to attribute to what. I am just happy

if we are clearly going the right way and knowing that I am

chelating with ALA according to Andy's schedule. We are also using

astragalus and echinacea according to Andy's recommendations, which

are in Anita's piece. I haven't seen much with the echinacea, but

the astragalus is good here. Oh yes, and neutrophil plus is helping

with the yeast here, I think. I put that in because our last blood

work showed my son's neutrophils almost out of range low. In fact,

today I think I saw my first signs that I am overdoing the yeast

protocol. Never thought I would say that!

Hope that helps.

Anne

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just returned from my son's required annual visit with

his

> > > DAN!

> > > > > doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's

lingering

> > > > > receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr.

> > Usman

> > > > > recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with

Xymogen's

> > > > > Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> > > > > Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

> > > > >

> > > > > Any contraindications to using this supplement or this

brand

> > > > > specifically?

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb

son.

> He

> > > > does

> > > > > not generally require low/slow dose increases in new

> > > supplements,

> > > > > but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those

> supps

> > > > that

> > > > > can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat

> > (like

> > > > > GSE, Candex, etc).

> > > > >

> > > > > We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question

> due

> > > to

> > > > > skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts

> but

> > > no

> > > > > resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> > > > > receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out

in

> > > losing

> > > > > the Autism diagnosis.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > > > Pam

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Kenny,

Actually I do use the phosphatidylcholine. I am using the phoschol

from Nutrasal.

Not sure I see anything from it, but have been reading Blaylock's

book on excitotoxins and he recommends it too as a way of helping to

deal with excitotoxin damage, so one more reason to keep it (aside

from all the ones you listed).

Anita

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I just returned from my son's required annual visit with his

DAN!

> > doctor (Usman). I was complaining about my son's lingering

> > receptive language delays and conversation skills and Dr. Usman

> > recommended phosphatidylcholine. I came home with Xymogen's

> > Phosphaline; a 100% pure concentrate/pharmaceutical grade

> > Phosphatidylcholine (gel cap with ethanol added; why?).

> >

> > Any contraindications to using this supplement or this brand

> > specifically?

> >

> > I'm supposed to use 1 900 mg softgel/day for my 45 lb son. He

does

> > not generally require low/slow dose increases in new

supplements,

> > but I'd be interested in knowing if this is one of those supps

that

> > can cause problems if used full strength right off the bat (like

> > GSE, Candex, etc).

> >

> > We've tried EFAs and mB12 (oral; shots out of the question due

to

> > skeptical spouse), DMG/TMG in the past with initial boosts but

no

> > resolution to the delay (about a 2 year delay in both

> > receptive/expressive). This is really our last hold-out in

losing

> > the Autism diagnosis.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Pam

> >

>