Re: Any good/bad experiences with LDN?

[Guest guest]

LDN has been our best intervention, re allergy issues there appear lots

of kids whose allergies got much better/less sensitive on ldn, but

unfortunately a small number of individuals, incl adults, see appearance

of new allergies.

have you tried posting on LDN list?

Autism_LDN

Natasa

>

> Hi parents,

>

> My son' dr told us to do LDN 0.2 mg per day. My son is 4yrs and weight

only 27-28 lbs. He is very senstives to lots of supplements and

food/fruit. He gets sever allergy reaction to peanut and we carry an

Epi-pen around at all times. I'm very new to all the bio-med and any

kind of treatments for him.

> Any sharing on this matter is greatly appreicated.

> Thanks again,

> Eva

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Everyone is raving about the all-new .

>

>

[Guest guest]

-Well I tried posting on the LDN list many times but the moderator

seems so overzealous that my posts do not appear and /or and are

rejected as unrelated to LDN when they so clearly are!!! Why the

censorship? Anybody else's eczcema got worse on it? My son's

certainly has in the 19 mths he has been on it. If we cannot have

open discourse on that list then at least more freedom to debate

here. Should I take him off the stuff? Severe skin reactions and

eczema.

Sue

-- In , " natasa778 " <neno@...> wrote:

>

> LDN has been our best intervention, re allergy issues there appear

lots

> of kids whose allergies got much better/less sensitive on ldn, but

> unfortunately a small number of individuals, incl adults, see

appearance

> of new allergies.

>

> have you tried posting on LDN list?

> Autism_LDN

>

> Natasa

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi parents,

> >

> > My son' dr told us to do LDN 0.2 mg per day. My son is 4yrs and

weight

> only 27-28 lbs. He is very senstives to lots of supplements and

> food/fruit. He gets sever allergy reaction to peanut and we carry

an

> Epi-pen around at all times. I'm very new to all the bio-med and

any

> kind of treatments for him.

> > Any sharing on this matter is greatly appreicated.

> > Thanks again,

> > Eva

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Everyone is raving about the all-new .

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Apparently my post never came through so I am sorry about that.

Still would like to hear of other people's experiences regarding LDN

and rashes/allergies though.

> > >

> > > Hi parents,

> > >

> > > My son' dr told us to do LDN 0.2 mg per day. My son is 4yrs

and

> weight

> > only 27-28 lbs. He is very senstives to lots of supplements and

> > food/fruit. He gets sever allergy reaction to peanut and we

carry

> an

> > Epi-pen around at all times. I'm very new to all the bio-med and

> any

> > kind of treatments for him.

> > > Any sharing on this matter is greatly appreicated.

> > > Thanks again,

> > > Eva

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new .

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Wow. Intereesting post. I can't believe you were censored on the

LDN board. I voiced on that board that my son's allergies seemed to

have gotten worse and I was not censored. Interesting. Anyway, the

story goes: My son went on LDN a year ago August and it was one of

our biggest wow's. It helped improve his mood tremendously. I also

felt it helped in other ways: asking better questions, more calm and

focused, better sleep, but then this past summer he started having

bizarre allergic reactions that came out of nowhere. It happened

three times, each time got progressively worse. Two required ER

visits. One time the ambulance had to meet us halfway to the

hospital. We took him for allergy testing to try to uncover what it

could be and it turned out he had supposedly become anaphalactic to

grass and tree pollen. The allergist said he had never seen that

before in any patient, nor had he ever heard of it. Anaphalaxis

usually occurs from nuts or shellfish, but not to trees and grass.

Now, I have no way of knowing that it was the LDN, but the reason I

suspect it might have played a role was because it does have an

affect on the immune system and over the summer we were in the

process of moving and he missed some doses here and there. So, my

advice would me not to ever miss any doses.

I really don't want to discourage anyone from trying what could be a

really awsome treatment, but I do know that there are other parents

who have reported a worsening of allergies on LDN. I would be

cautious about it, especially if you have a severely allergic

child. We have discussed this some on a group I own and help

moderate. The group is called foodallergyautism. There are a

couple of parents on our group who have had the opposite happen- all

of the sudden their kids are able to tolerate many new foods that

they could not before.

I think anytime you take a drug you take a risk. It just depends on

if the risk is worth it for you. I pulled my son off of it after

the last episode of anaphalxis and his mood and symptoms have gotten

horrible. I am spending a few months trying to pick up the pieces

w/o LDN but I may consider using it again in the future if I can't

make more permanent gains using other methods. With kids like these

it is really hard to know what causes what and I don't want to trash

talk LDN as it definitely could very well be a lot more helpful than

harmful. But I think it is important that people are aware of the

potential risks and talk about side effects so that as the future

progresses we will all be able to make better choices for our

children.

Well wishes,

in Indiana

> > >

> > > Hi parents,

> > >

> > > My son' dr told us to do LDN 0.2 mg per day. My son is 4yrs

and

> weight

> > only 27-28 lbs. He is very senstives to lots of supplements and

> > food/fruit. He gets sever allergy reaction to peanut and we

carry

> an

> > Epi-pen around at all times. I'm very new to all the bio-med and

> any

> > kind of treatments for him.

> > > Any sharing on this matter is greatly appreicated.

> > > Thanks again,

> > > Eva

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new .

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

, thank you for sharing this report with us.

Rene

[Guest guest]

, we just decided to try introducing LDN again after two months off

it, for exactly those same reasons - we have not been able to control

his moods and temper, looks like they have been getting progressively

worse and we have not been able to trace this change to anything else.

The reason we stopped was not allergies but we did ran out and were out

for a week - did not see any changes in that first week, good or bad,

BUT when we started again (low dose) after a week his reaction was very

negative! we decided to stop for a while to see what happens.

I have just applied one and a half lines last night, fingers crossed.

>

> , thank you for sharing this report with us.

>

> Rene

>

[Guest guest]

>>Anybody else's eczcema got worse on it? My son's

> certainly has in the 19 mths he has been on it.

Does it look similar to this?

http://www.danasview.net/virus_rash1.jpg

This is a picture of my #2's most common viral " die off " rash.

Dana

[Guest guest]

-Thanks, Dana,

I have stopped the CLO and we will see what happens. The rash on

back is different to that on his legs. I have uploaded a couple more

shots of his legs on the photo album. It kind of has elements of

your son's rash but lots of it.

See what you think.

Cheers,

Sue

-- In , " danasview " <danasview@...>

wrote:

>

>

> >>Anybody else's eczcema got worse on it? My son's

> > certainly has in the 19 mths he has been on it.

>

>

> Does it look similar to this?

>

> http://www.danasview.net/virus_rash1.jpg

>

> This is a picture of my #2's most common viral " die off " rash.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/11/2006 10:45:40 GMT Standard Time,

sue@... writes:

I am using the HBOT,

dioxyclor drops and the oxypowder to go for the anerobic little

devils which are causing so much chaos.

>>>Dioxychlor gave us mega die off and rashes - much better after we waited

90 mins and chased it with activated charcoal. Powerful stuff, I think its

hits the clostridia FWIW

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

-Hi Dana,

Actually has an odd spot on his face exactly like the ones on

your little boy. It is not your normal spot where it comes to a

head. This is a broken skin one which looks just like your sons. He

had one like this which lasted for a few weeks on his top lip. His

skin on his face is normally clear and soft. At times though is gets

very very bumpy- which I took to mean toxicity or die off. How did

you realise that this was viral die off please? Do you think

may need a prescription anit-viral agent? He regressed after the MMR

you see. Very dramatically. By the way his visual finger stimming in

front of his eyes used to be extreme when he was 2-5 yrs old. After

CLO was added he behan to draw and write within days although the

vis stims remained. After the HD Vit A we have only had a few minor

episodes, very brief of stims like this. I pulled the ClO 2 days ago

and his rash is slightly better on his back. It is very like

sandpaper to touch. The rashes on his legs were much worse when he

began the oxypowder. I wonder if that contributed to a lot of die

off and his immune system has had a shock. I am using the HBOT,

dioxyclor drops and the oxypowder to go for the anerobic little

devils which are causing so much chaos. He wakes up often on a

morning so spacey, giggly and disorientated that I have to literally

guide him around for the first few minutes. It is as if there are

waves of toxicity washing over him. I am giving the dioxyclor in

water with an oxypowder cap and a cap of liquid charcoal and his

nystatin on waking so he has an hour gap between that & breakfast. I

do the same in reverse in the evening with the probiotics before bed.

The spaciness and giggling episodes are so extreme I have videoed

them. At other times there is some clarity, frequently very good,

but always fleeting.

He is on OLE and Lauricidin x2 each daily. Would you mind giving me

some direction in the anti-viral improvements I could make to this

situation?

Very best wishes,

Sue

-- In , " danasview " <danasview@...>

wrote:

>

>

> >>Anybody else's eczcema got worse on it? My son's

> > certainly has in the 19 mths he has been on it.

>

>

> Does it look similar to this?

>

> http://www.danasview.net/virus_rash1.jpg

>

> This is a picture of my #2's most common viral " die off " rash.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mandi - CAn you describe the rashes you saw- was it like the

photos pf 's legs I have uploaded into the photo section on

this list?

Could you describe for me how you knew it was die off please?

Many thanks,

Sue- UK

ps)everyone else on this list won't be up yet! I live half American

time here- my day improves when America wakes up,we have such a

support from the parents over there.---

In , Mum231ASD@... wrote:

>

> -

> In a message dated 10/11/2006 10:45:40 GMT Standard Time,

> sue@... writes:

>

> I am using the HBOT,

> dioxyclor drops and the oxypowder to go for the anerobic little

> devils which are causing so much chaos.

>

>

> >>>Dioxychlor gave us mega die off and rashes - much better after

we waited

> 90 mins and chased it with activated charcoal. Powerful stuff, I

think its

> hits the clostridia FWIW

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> -Thanks, Dana,

> I have stopped the CLO and we will see what happens. The rash on

> back is different to that on his legs. I have uploaded a couple more

> shots of his legs on the photo album. It kind of has elements of

> your son's rash but lots of it.

The rash on the leg looks similar to my son's virus rash that he had

on his legs at one time, but it is not entirely the same as his rash.

So might be viruses, might not.

The rash on the back looks similar to the rash on the leg. What about

it makes you say it is a different sort of rash? I would almost say

that this rash might have aspects of yeast to it, but not sure.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> -Hi Dana,

> Actually has an odd spot on his face exactly like the ones on

> your little boy. It is not your normal spot where it comes to a

> head. This is a broken skin one which looks just like your sons.

That picture is my son's most common viral " die off " rash. He gets

those bumps/spots pretty much everywhere on his body, on and off, they

come and go in waves. Usually they last about 2 weeks.

>>How did

> you realise that this was viral die off please?

Because they increased, every time I would increase anti-virals, and

they would be accompanied by improvements in behaviors and language.

>> Do you think

> may need a prescription anit-viral agent?

I never used one.

>> He regressed after the MMR

> you see. Very dramatically. By the way his visual finger stimming in

> front of his eyes used to be extreme when he was 2-5 yrs old. After

> CLO was added he behan to draw and write within days although the

> vis stims remained. After the HD Vit A we have only had a few minor

> episodes, very brief of stims like this.

Keep the anti-virals. Visual stims, for my son, required a LOT of

interventions to eliminate. Anti-virals was one of the most effective

ones

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

>> I pulled the ClO 2 days ago

> and his rash is slightly better on his back. It is very like

> sandpaper to touch.

Your pictures of his back are interesting. The first one looks like

vitamin A toxicity, the second one looks different.

This sounds like vitamin A toxicity. I thought my son had sandpaper

stuck to his skin. Glad it is reducing!

>>He wakes up often on a

> morning so spacey, giggly and disorientated that I have to literally

> guide him around for the first few minutes.

This sounds like my son with yeast overgrowth issues.

>>I am giving the dioxyclor in

> water with an oxypowder cap and a cap of liquid charcoal and his

> nystatin on waking

Giving charcoal at the same time as other things will most likely be a

waste of energy and money. Charcoal absorbs almost everything, so it

is likely that it is absorbing all those other things. Are you still

seeing benefits by doing it this way? If so, maybe the charcoal is

only absorbing part of them and not all of them.

> He is on OLE and Lauricidin x2 each daily. Would you mind giving me

> some direction in the anti-viral improvements I could make to this

> situation?

For my son, OLE plus Virastop gave the best results. Lauricidin

always caused more problems than it resolved, especially lots of yeast

which was uncontrollable. That might be because it was addressing the

viruses too fast, altho I was unable to control the yeast even with

only one pellet of Lauricidin.

Now I give high doses of vitamin C, plus one Virastop capsule. This

combination is working VERY WELL for my kids.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> > >>Anybody else's eczcema got worse on it? My son's

> > > certainly has in the 19 mths he has been on it.

> >

> >

> > Does it look similar to this?

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/virus_rash1.jpg

> >

> > This is a picture of my #2's most common viral " die off " rash.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Hello Dana

> I have 2 children in the spectrum, when we started them on LDN last

> fall there were improvements in concentration and stimming. My

> daughter would break out in a rash on her thighs like the picture

> you have but mush worse.

The viral " die off " rash would come and go, all over my son's body.

At one point his legs, arms, and chest looked really nasty.

>> She would also get a sandpaper rash all

> over her torso, front and back.

This sounds like my son's vitamin A toxicity rash.

>> The last time she was broke out I

> swore it was shingles, teh LDN list explains this as the LDN must

> have come accross and activated the viruses.

I don't consider it as " activating " the virus. The virus was there,

dormant in the body, and as it is being pulled out, it causes " typical

virus symptoms " on the way out. At least that is how it seems to me.

>>For other reasons I

> took her off of the LDN and all of the rashes (except the one she

> always has on her upper arms) went away.

Maybe the viruses went back " into hiding " ?

A " chicken skin " rash on the backs of the upper arms, for my #3, meant

a lot of things. It is commonly associated with EFA deficiency, which

did help my #3, but it was also viral. More info on this page

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

>> At times the rashes were

> very serious and we couldn't find anyone to help us with them. I

> finally found " calming cream " that seemed to help keep them from

> itching so she could get to sleep at night.

Yes, my son would scratch his viral " die off " rash.

> he developed some severe tics approximatley 12 weeks after starting

> the cream.

My #1 had tics, because of yeast overgrowth. And viral " die off "

really increased yeast for us.

>>The ironic thing is the best way to get his tics under

> control was to use more LDN, but approx 6 weeks after an increase

> the tics would come back worse (I'm talking major gross motor

> convulsion type tics).

My #1's tics were not this bad.

> I would still consider LDN inthe future because we saw both good and

> bad things with it. As with everything else, we parents have to

> weigh the pros and cons of it.

Try high dose vitamin C. This is working REALLY WELL for my kids

right now. In fact, it seems to be able to address even viruses that

were not addressed by OLE and Virastop. I speculate that my son's

immune system now works, it just needs a lot of vitamin C. But

because it is the immune system doing the work itself, it is able to

address viruses that are deeply embedded.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks for these detailed posts. How high to max up the vit C please?

By the way. I am positive it was High dose Vit A toxicity rash as it

is getting better after I removed the CLO...well deduced Dana!!

Sue

> > Hello Dana

> > I have 2 children in the spectrum, when we started them on LDN

last

> > fall there were improvements in concentration and stimming. My

> > daughter would break out in a rash on her thighs like the

picture

> > you have but mush worse.

>

>

> The viral " die off " rash would come and go, all over my son's

body.

> At one point his legs, arms, and chest looked really nasty.

>

>

> >> She would also get a sandpaper rash all

> > over her torso, front and back.

>

>

> This sounds like my son's vitamin A toxicity rash.

>

>

> >> The last time she was broke out I

> > swore it was shingles, teh LDN list explains this as the LDN

must

> > have come accross and activated the viruses.

>

>

> I don't consider it as " activating " the virus. The virus was

there,

> dormant in the body, and as it is being pulled out, it

causes " typical

> virus symptoms " on the way out. At least that is how it seems to

me.

>

>

> >>For other reasons I

> > took her off of the LDN and all of the rashes (except the one

she

> > always has on her upper arms) went away.

>

>

> Maybe the viruses went back " into hiding " ?

>

> A " chicken skin " rash on the backs of the upper arms, for my #3,

meant

> a lot of things. It is commonly associated with EFA deficiency,

which

> did help my #3, but it was also viral. More info on this page

>

> http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

>

>

> >> At times the rashes were

> > very serious and we couldn't find anyone to help us with them.

I

> > finally found " calming cream " that seemed to help keep them from

> > itching so she could get to sleep at night.

>

>

> Yes, my son would scratch his viral " die off " rash.

>

>

> > he developed some severe tics approximatley 12 weeks after

starting

> > the cream.

>

>

> My #1 had tics, because of yeast overgrowth. And viral " die off "

> really increased yeast for us.

>

>

> >>The ironic thing is the best way to get his tics under

> > control was to use more LDN, but approx 6 weeks after an

increase

> > the tics would come back worse (I'm talking major gross motor

> > convulsion type tics).

>

>

> My #1's tics were not this bad.

>

>

> > I would still consider LDN inthe future because we saw both good

and

> > bad things with it. As with everything else, we parents have to

> > weigh the pros and cons of it.

>

>

> Try high dose vitamin C. This is working REALLY WELL for my kids

> right now. In fact, it seems to be able to address even viruses

that

> were not addressed by OLE and Virastop. I speculate that my son's

> immune system now works, it just needs a lot of vitamin C. But

> because it is the immune system doing the work itself, it is able

to

> address viruses that are deeply embedded.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Don't be fooled by removing the Vit A into thinking that you don't have a

problem with the Measles Virus.

Since you were giving a dose that the virus could tolerate but not enough to

kill it, it can still be there.

You might think about waiting a 3-6 months for it to come down and then do

the High Dose for a couple days.

Good Luck !

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of sue_lwsn

Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:29 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Any good/bad experiences with LDN?

Thanks for these detailed posts. How high to max up the vit C please?

By the way. I am positive it was High dose Vit A toxicity rash as it

is getting better after I removed the CLO...well deduced Dana!!

Sue

> > Hello Dana

> > I have 2 children in the spectrum, when we started them on LDN

last

> > fall there were improvements in concentration and stimming. My

> > daughter would break out in a rash on her thighs like the

picture

> > you have but mush worse.

>

>

> The viral " die off " rash would come and go, all over my son's

body.

> At one point his legs, arms, and chest looked really nasty.

>

>

> >> She would also get a sandpaper rash all

> > over her torso, front and back.

>

>

> This sounds like my son's vitamin A toxicity rash.

>

>

> >> The last time she was broke out I

> > swore it was shingles, teh LDN list explains this as the LDN

must

> > have come accross and activated the viruses.

>

>

> I don't consider it as " activating " the virus. The virus was

there,

> dormant in the body, and as it is being pulled out, it

causes " typical

> virus symptoms " on the way out. At least that is how it seems to

me.

>

>

> >>For other reasons I

> > took her off of the LDN and all of the rashes (except the one

she

> > always has on her upper arms) went away.

>

>

> Maybe the viruses went back " into hiding " ?

>

> A " chicken skin " rash on the backs of the upper arms, for my #3,

meant

> a lot of things. It is commonly associated with EFA deficiency,

which

> did help my #3, but it was also viral. More info on this page

>

> http://www.danasvie <http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm> w.net/issues.htm

>

>

> >> At times the rashes were

> > very serious and we couldn't find anyone to help us with them.

I

> > finally found " calming cream " that seemed to help keep them from

> > itching so she could get to sleep at night.

>

>

> Yes, my son would scratch his viral " die off " rash.

>

>

> > he developed some severe tics approximatley 12 weeks after

starting

> > the cream.

>

>

> My #1 had tics, because of yeast overgrowth. And viral " die off "

> really increased yeast for us.

>

>

> >>The ironic thing is the best way to get his tics under

> > control was to use more LDN, but approx 6 weeks after an

increase

> > the tics would come back worse (I'm talking major gross motor

> > convulsion type tics).

>

>

> My #1's tics were not this bad.

>

>

> > I would still consider LDN inthe future because we saw both good

and

> > bad things with it. As with everything else, we parents have to

> > weigh the pros and cons of it.

>

>

> Try high dose vitamin C. This is working REALLY WELL for my kids

> right now. In fact, it seems to be able to address even viruses

that

> were not addressed by OLE and Virastop. I speculate that my son's

> immune system now works, it just needs a lot of vitamin C. But

> because it is the immune system doing the work itself, it is able

to

> address viruses that are deeply embedded.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Thnaks Neil- I will do this as I saw how very ill he was after the

MMR.

> > > Hello Dana

> > > I have 2 children in the spectrum, when we started them on LDN

> last

> > > fall there were improvements in concentration and stimming. My

> > > daughter would break out in a rash on her thighs like the

> picture

> > > you have but mush worse.

> >

> >

> > The viral " die off " rash would come and go, all over my son's

> body.

> > At one point his legs, arms, and chest looked really nasty.

> >

> >

> > >> She would also get a sandpaper rash all

> > > over her torso, front and back.

> >

> >

> > This sounds like my son's vitamin A toxicity rash.

> >

> >

> > >> The last time she was broke out I

> > > swore it was shingles, teh LDN list explains this as the LDN

> must

> > > have come accross and activated the viruses.

> >

> >

> > I don't consider it as " activating " the virus. The virus was

> there,

> > dormant in the body, and as it is being pulled out, it

> causes " typical

> > virus symptoms " on the way out. At least that is how it seems to

> me.

> >

> >

> > >>For other reasons I

> > > took her off of the LDN and all of the rashes (except the one

> she

> > > always has on her upper arms) went away.

> >

> >

> > Maybe the viruses went back " into hiding " ?

> >

> > A " chicken skin " rash on the backs of the upper arms, for my #3,

> meant

> > a lot of things. It is commonly associated with EFA deficiency,

> which

> > did help my #3, but it was also viral. More info on this page

> >

> > http://www.danasvie <http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm>

w.net/issues.htm

> >

> >

> > >> At times the rashes were

> > > very serious and we couldn't find anyone to help us with them.

> I

> > > finally found " calming cream " that seemed to help keep them

from

> > > itching so she could get to sleep at night.

> >

> >

> > Yes, my son would scratch his viral " die off " rash.

> >

> >

> > > he developed some severe tics approximatley 12 weeks after

> starting

> > > the cream.

> >

> >

> > My #1 had tics, because of yeast overgrowth. And viral " die off "

> > really increased yeast for us.

> >

> >

> > >>The ironic thing is the best way to get his tics under

> > > control was to use more LDN, but approx 6 weeks after an

> increase

> > > the tics would come back worse (I'm talking major gross motor

> > > convulsion type tics).

> >

> >

> > My #1's tics were not this bad.

> >

> >

> > > I would still consider LDN inthe future because we saw both

good

> and

> > > bad things with it. As with everything else, we parents have

to

> > > weigh the pros and cons of it.

> >

> >

> > Try high dose vitamin C. This is working REALLY WELL for my kids

> > right now. In fact, it seems to be able to address even viruses

> that

> > were not addressed by OLE and Virastop. I speculate that my son's

> > immune system now works, it just needs a lot of vitamin C. But

> > because it is the immune system doing the work itself, it is

able

> to

> > address viruses that are deeply embedded.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> Thanks for these detailed posts. How high to max up the vit C please?

Well, #2 is currently on 45 grams per day [45,000 mg]. I have

occasionally given 60 grams without problems, except more yeast.

> By the way. I am positive it was High dose Vit A toxicity rash as it

> is getting better after I removed the CLO...well deduced Dana!!

Glad you found that problem!

If he still needs Omega 3, give him plain fish oil, without vitamin A.

Dana

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> Since you were giving a dose that the virus could tolerate but not

enough to

> kill it, it can still be there.

This is entirely possible, but with a rash that bad and only with

maintenance doses of CLO, it is very unlikely, in my opinion. My

son's toxicity rash was not nearly that bad.

However, my son did reach toxicity after the first high dose protocol,

altho it did not completely eliminate the measles virus. I learned

this because after I removed the CLO and his toxicity rash was

eliminated, I was again able to give him 100,000 IU per day without

toxicity symptoms.

Once the measles virus was eliminated, I was no longer able to give

him ANY vitamin A, even 1250 IU. The most I can now give him is one

drop of CLO about once per month. For kids who don't reach toxicity

but measles virus has been eliminated, daily CLO is a possibility.

But for my son, apparently because he reached toxicity, daily CLO is

not an option.

> You might think about waiting a 3-6 months for it to come down and

then do

> the High Dose for a couple days.

I would wait several months, then give no more than 10,000 IU for one

day. If no toxicity, give 50,000 IU for one day. If no toxicity,

give 100,000 IU for one day. If no toxicity, only then would I

consider re-doing high dose protocol.

Dana