/was: Re: strange behaviors lately - links to DMSA chelation?

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana,

Thanks for your input very much. I don't quite know what deficiency signs fro

calcium would present like - I did receive a suggestion that perhaps eye-gouging

and chin-pushing behaviors may be calcium deficiency related? I have been seeing

these behaviors lately (past two months) increasingly, which is when we started

chelating with td dmsa.

He does have issues at times with taking his supplements. At times, they contain

calcium in higher doses, so I don't know.

What would be a good test for assessing nutritional levels? I was recommended

to do Spectracell, and still working to get my son in to a hospital lab that is

kid friendly and would restrain him if needed. Do you know of any other tests

that I could request, that would be comparable to Spectracell? This test will

provide information that is complete, on long term nutritional status on the

cellular level, not a snapshot only.

I hope to get him in for this within two weeks.

So, what would be the behaviors/signs of calcium toxicity, or deficiency, in

your experience?

TIA

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

> I just looked over your supp list, and I think a big part of the

> problem may be the amount of calcium Even is getting. Our kids need

> more like 1000 to 1500 mg of calcium per day, especially when they

> are chelating. While removing toxic metals, chelation also strips

> the minerals. Most of our kids are caseine free and are getting no

> calcium from dairy sources. Also, few of them consume the proper

> foods that furnish the daily requirements of calcium that they need.

> Noah definately falls into this catagory. He hates the taste of

> calcium in his drinks.

My kids were calcium toxic, despite 2 years of cf without

supplementation, and one of them would refuse supplements if he

realized they were making him feel bad. If your child specifically

does not like taking calcium, you might want to have him tested for

calcium levels.

Also, is he showing any signs of calcium deficiency?

Dana

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[Guest guest]

We've used the Wateroz products for a couple of years now. I was very

resistant with the 'looks like water; must be water' snake oil

mentality. However, I like them immensely! They are easy to dose-

taste like water, can be put in almost anything as well as taken

plain.

http://www.kornax.com/Liquid_Calcium_Water.htm

will give you a mg idea. We have just used the recommended dosage for

adult[120#er], which is NOT based on the mg table but on their

recommendation of dosage i.e. usually 1/2 - 1 tsp. Currently just

using the Ca and Mg extra strength[you don't need as much volume with

it] and lithium. Some of them taste disgusting to me-supposedly a tip

that one's body does not need that particular mineral. A friend uses

the zinc routinely. It is the only form that seems to benefit her

child.

>

> You know what, ? I don't know either. I did a search and you

> can buy the bottles individually (they even have one that's " extra

> strength " ...sounds like a cleaning product, huh?). Anyway, I could

> not find a calcium content per tsp, so I don't know if I'm even

> going to bother purchasing it. I'll try the New Beginnings and the

> shakes and see what happens.

> Anyone out there use Water Oz? If so, what do you think?

> Thanks!

> -Trish

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Thanks Odysseas,

> > > I'll definately try these. He's not great at chewables but if

> the

> > > flavor is good, he just might surprise me. The other thing I

can

> > do

> > > (if he won't chew them) is crush them and blend them in orange

> > > juice.

> > > I'm going to order Water Oz, too. Between the shake, the

> > chewables

> > > and the water oz, we just may get him up to speed on this.

> > > Who would have thought that something so simple would be so

> > > complicated???? Arrggghhh.......!!!!

> > > -Trish

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Trish, and eevryone,

FYI - I went to Lee Silsby a month ago and they make a calcium lotion also,

but it's expensive $38 a month supply. I am thinking about it being prescribed

in case my son turns to be low despite oral supplementation, that way it may be

covered by my insurance.

Also, thanks for the good emails - I am behind a bit reading and responding as

the little guy has been home keeping us busy - he is talking more and more every

day! Now he has a new way to protest he actually says now " no-no-no-no-no.... "

instead of just shaking his head. We are delighted!

Have a good 4th, everyone.

Trish <minniemimi1@...> wrote:

Hi Barb,

I just posted this, but in case you missed it, I'll post again. I

get my Magnesium Sulfate Cream from Kirkman's Lab. It comes in a 24 oz

jar. It contains 100mg mag per gram It can be applied 3-4 xs/day. We

apply it between the shoulder blades, although it really can be

applied anywhere. We apply it before showers (when he doesn't get an

Epsom Salt bath), before swimming and whenever he seems extra hyper,

or if we are taking him out when he needs to be calm. It is $18.50 a

jar and lasts a long time.

Our DAN! told us about this.

They also make a zinc cream, which we use in addition to the zinc we

put in a bottle of water (we call it pop water). My gds likes it, but

doesn't always finish it. The td helps us to be sure he's geyying

enough.

Hope this helps!

-Trish

> >

> > Hi ,

> > This is what I'm looking for...it's all so confusing. If a child

> > needs 1500mg of Calcium/day, and I got the Extra strength Cal-Mag,

> > how much would he need throughout the day? Also, he gets Mag cream

> > when needed, does that matter? He already gets Lithium Orotate in

> > with his daily vits, so that's a good thing.

> >

>

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