Re: Concerned about autism in 3 month old baby

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Consider giving them a copy of " What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About

Childhood Vaccines " by Cave, MD. Sounds like a child you shouldn't

get anymore vaccines. If the mother is open to suggestions I would suggest that

she try going off dairy and possibly gluten or at least wheat while

breastfeeding to see if that makes a difference.

S S

<p>Hello,<br>

<br>

I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern that <br>

I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think that <br>

she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is <br>

feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the dx <br>

failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she <br>

only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time. The <br>

second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled. The <br>

ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most alarming <br>

thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was over <br>

at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He said <br>

that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for myself <br>

but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys with <br>

autism.<br>

<br>

It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is their <br>

first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think <br>

these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had was <br>

with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking your <br>

advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.<br>

<br>

Thanks,<br>

Steph<br>

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Is she formula fed or breastfed? She could be colicky, possibly due

to milk allergy. But I think I'd be a little worried too, even at

that young age. It's way too early for a diagnosis, but I must say

the description you gave perfectly fits my son (diagnosed with autism

at 11 months). He only gained 6 ounces his first month despite 24/7

breastfeeding because he had oral motor problems and was unable to

latch on properly. He was also inconsolable; if he wasn't nursing, he

was crying. And even though he was not consuming much milk, he

vomited back up half of what went down -- he had bad reflux until he

was 10 months old, which I'm now sure was related to his milk allergy

due to the dairy in my diet, which goes right through breastmilk.

When I was first worried my son had autism, I did a lot of research on

early warning signs. I found the following list of *very* early

warning signs (all of which applied to my son):

Possible signs at 2 months:

- Does not notice hands by 2 months

Possible signs at 4 to 6 months:

- Not making eye contact with parents during interaction

- Not cooing or babbling

- Not smiling when parents smile

- Not participating in vocal turn-taking (baby makes a sound, adult

makes a sound, and so forth)

- Not responding to peek-a-boo game

The first thing I would recommend is that they remove dairy. If

they're using formula they'd probably want to try Nutramigen or some

other special predigested formula, if they haven't done so already.

They might also want to try giving her small amounts of some mild

supplements like cod liver oil. I'm not sure what else they can do

right now because I doubt even most DAN! docs would even give them the

time of day at her age.

>

> Hello,

>

> I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern that

> I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think that

> she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the dx

> failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time. The

> second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled. The

> ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most alarming

> thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was over

> at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He said

> that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for myself

> but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys with

> autism.

>

> It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is their

> first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had was

> with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking your

> advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

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I would not use or mention the word autism. I would instead talk

about what they know: that she has acid reflux. Acid reflux in

someone so tiny is very unusual and does suggest an alergy to her

formula or milk. She should be seen by a pediatric

gastrointerologist. If she is breastfeeding she should continue, but

if she is on a soy based formula, she should stop it now. There are

several alternatives for kids with milk alergies, but since she is so

little, they would need an expert's advice (and a regular

pediatrician is NOT an expert) as to what to choose.

>

> Hello,

>

> I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern

that

> I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

that

> she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the dx

> failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time.

The

> second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled.

The

> ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

alarming

> thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was

over

> at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He

said

> that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

myself

> but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys

with

> autism.

>

> It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is

their

> first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had

was

> with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

your

> advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

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Was this baby screened for galactosemia? Some states screen for it, some don't.

S S

> Hello,<br>

> <br>

> I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern that <br>

> I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think that <br>

> she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is <br>

> feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the dx <br>

> failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she <br>

> only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time. The <br>

> second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled. The <br>

> ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most alarming <br>

> thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was over <br>

> at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He said <br>

> that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for myself <br>

> but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys with <br>

> autism.<br>

> <br>

> It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is their <br>

> first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think <br>

> these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had was <br>

> with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking your <br>

> advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.<br>

> <br>

> Thanks,<br>

> Steph<br>

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My daughter projectile vomitted across the room from birth. The ped always said

it was fine as long as she gained weight. She slowly gained weight but fell

from the

25 th percentile to the 15th by the time she stopped. I breast fed her

constantly. I had the milk supply of a mother with twins. She vomitted until

10 months. At one point the ped thought she was lactose intollerant and I

stopped eating lactose for a couple of weeks but nothing changed and I went back

to eating a normal diet. I wish I had known about gfcf diet. Her digestive

tract slowly developed and was able to keep food down by almost a year. Now she

has autism at 4. I wish I had looked for a second opinion when she was a little

baby.

forcurley <thisiskathys@...> wrote:

I would not use or mention the word autism. I would instead talk

about what they know: that she has acid reflux. Acid reflux in

someone so tiny is very unusual and does suggest an alergy to her

formula or milk. She should be seen by a pediatric

gastrointerologist. If she is breastfeeding she should continue, but

if she is on a soy based formula, she should stop it now. There are

several alternatives for kids with milk alergies, but since she is so

little, they would need an expert's advice (and a regular

pediatrician is NOT an expert) as to what to choose.

>

> Hello,

>

> I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern

that

> I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

that

> she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the dx

> failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time.

The

> second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled.

The

> ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

alarming

> thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was

over

> at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He

said

> that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

myself

> but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys

with

> autism.

>

> It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is

their

> first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had

was

> with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

your

> advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

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,

My daughter, now 32, did the same thing, in the hospital, from birth. It is

called pyloric stenosis and is corrected by a very simple operation. It is where

the valve on the top of the esophogus does not close after the baby burps and

then the entire contents of their stomach is forced out.

She vomited so much, and I was so stupid and so young, I didn't question the dr

who told me it was fine, that she had scarred her stomach by the time she was 3

months old. She was a big, robust baby, however, weighing 16 lbs at 3 months,

so it never affected her weight. It also never hampered her development.

Never should have happened, but it has no connection with Autism, as my daughter

is NT. It has nothing to do with a milk allergy. But, boy what a mess, and you

never knew when it would happen.

Re: [ ] Re: Concerned about autism in 3 month old baby

My daughter projectile vomitted across the room from birth. The ped always

said it was fine as long as she gained weight. She slowly gained weight but fell

from the

25 th percentile to the 15th by the time she stopped. I breast fed her

constantly. I had the milk supply of a mother with twins. She vomitted until 10

months. At one point the ped thought she was lactose intollerant and I stopped

eating lactose for a couple of weeks but nothing changed and I went back to

eating a normal diet. I wish I had known about gfcf diet. Her digestive tract

slowly developed and was able to keep food down by almost a year. Now she has

autism at 4. I wish I had looked for a second opinion when she was a little

baby.

forcurley <thisiskathys@...> wrote:

I would not use or mention the word autism. I would instead talk

about what they know: that she has acid reflux. Acid reflux in

someone so tiny is very unusual and does suggest an alergy to her

formula or milk. She should be seen by a pediatric

gastrointerologist. If she is breastfeeding she should continue, but

if she is on a soy based formula, she should stop it now. There are

several alternatives for kids with milk alergies, but since she is so

little, they would need an expert's advice (and a regular

pediatrician is NOT an expert) as to what to choose.

>

> Hello,

>

> I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern

that

> I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

that

> she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the dx

> failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time.

The

> second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled.

The

> ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

alarming

> thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was

over

> at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He

said

> that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

myself

> but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys

with

> autism.

>

> It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is

their

> first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had

was

> with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

your

> advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

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The parents are doing a good job of trying to address her acid reflux

problem. They actually mentioned that they may take her to a ped

GI. I think I'll encourage that. As for what she is fed, she is

breastfed and supplemented with formula (not sure which kind

though). I told the mom about avoiding dairy and wheat but I don't

know how she feels about it. I don't want to be pushy.

The thing that worries me is the combination of things going on, not

one particular thing. I do know that this baby is very young and all

we can really do is wait and see. I just wanted to know if these

were significant warning signs.

Thanks,

Steph

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern

> that

> > I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

> that

> > she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> > feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the

dx

> > failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> > only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time.

> The

> > second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled.

> The

> > ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

> alarming

> > thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was

> over

> > at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He

> said

> > that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

> myself

> > but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys

> with

> > autism.

> >

> > It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is

> their

> > first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> > these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had

> was

> > with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

> your

> > advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Steph

> >

>

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I would give them information about enzymes. www.enzymestuff.com is fantastic.

My daughter was similar to this though she would make eye contact. Her issue

was she didn't digest formula or breastmilk very well. She spit up constantly.

I started her on enzymes in the morning and by that night she stopped spitting

up. Not only did the problem totally go away but she started sleeping through

the night and was generally a happier baby. I would wonder too if the eye

contact was because she has a upset tummy all the time. I am not saying to rule

anything out but the tummy troubles scream digestive enzymes to me. You could

send her the books on vaccination without a return address if you think she

wouldn't like them coming from you.

scaron1009 <scaron1009@...> wrote:

The parents are doing a good job of trying to address her acid reflux

problem. They actually mentioned that they may take her to a ped

GI. I think I'll encourage that. As for what she is fed, she is

breastfed and supplemented with formula (not sure which kind

though). I told the mom about avoiding dairy and wheat but I don't

know how she feels about it. I don't want to be pushy.

The thing that worries me is the combination of things going on, not

one particular thing. I do know that this baby is very young and all

we can really do is wait and see. I just wanted to know if these

were significant warning signs.

Thanks,

Steph

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern

> that

> > I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

> that

> > she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> > feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the

dx

> > failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> > only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time.

> The

> > second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled.

> The

> > ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

> alarming

> > thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was

> over

> > at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He

> said

> > that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

> myself

> > but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys

> with

> > autism.

> >

> > It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is

> their

> > first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> > these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had

> was

> > with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

> your

> > advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Steph

> >

>

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when I was an infant I was inconsolable and I had vomitting all the time even

till an older age. At age 30 I found out I have tons of food allergies. Is

there any chance it could be that........or things like dryer shets on the

bedding otjohnsons baby wash is toxic.....how about new paint (esp in the

nursery?) or pesticides used in the home? I would look at each issue very

carefully Jen

Thorson <jennifer_thorson@...> wrote:

My daughter projectile vomitted across the room from birth. The ped always

said it was fine as long as she gained weight. She slowly gained weight but

fell from the

25 th percentile to the 15th by the time she stopped. I breast fed her

constantly. I had the milk supply of a mother with twins. She vomitted until 10

months. At one point the ped thought she was lactose intollerant and I stopped

eating lactose for a couple of weeks but nothing changed and I went back to

eating a normal diet. I wish I had known about gfcf diet. Her digestive tract

slowly developed and was able to keep food down by almost a year. Now she has

autism at 4. I wish I had looked for a second opinion when she was a little

baby.

forcurley <thisiskathys@...> wrote:

I would not use or mention the word autism. I would instead talk

about what they know: that she has acid reflux. Acid reflux in

someone so tiny is very unusual and does suggest an alergy to her

formula or milk. She should be seen by a pediatric

gastrointerologist. If she is breastfeeding she should continue, but

if she is on a soy based formula, she should stop it now. There are

several alternatives for kids with milk alergies, but since she is so

little, they would need an expert's advice (and a regular

pediatrician is NOT an expert) as to what to choose.

>

> Hello,

>

> I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern

that

> I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

that

> she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the dx

> failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time.

The

> second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled.

The

> ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

alarming

> thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was

over

> at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He

said

> that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

myself

> but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys

with

> autism.

>

> It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is

their

> first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had

was

> with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

your

> advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

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Well, it is possible. offers a great suggestion on the book. The hard

part is not ruining your relationship with these people. Suggesting their child

has autism could scare the crap out of them, and make them turn their back on

you. Offering a book is a bit more subtle.

I can say my first child was a horrid feeder, and he had severe colic for the

first 6 months. I'm not sure I really ever slept more than 20 minutes at a

time. However, he did not turn out to be autistic. My middle child is the

autistic one, and he was the most pleasant baby......ever! He slept well, but

had a few feeding issues later. It was obvious he became autistic after his 9

mo. vaccines. He changed and turned into a handful. However, up to the 9 mo.

point he was a great baby.

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Yes they are but, many children have recovered just by addressing the underlying

GI problems. This is the reason for special diets, supplimentation, etc. The

inflamation in the intestinal tract creates inflamation inside the brain. Some

kids get better through this treatment alone, others when it is used in tandem

with treatments like chelation. That she is so young makes me feel that

addressing it now would be a wonderful thing for her, and she might recover

right away. I also agree with the person who said you might consider giving her

the Dr. Cave's book on vacinations.

Please don't mention autism by name. Your friend is probably pretty worried

already, and will need you for what lies ahead. Sometimes, well meaning friends

and relatives can become the focus of the denial and anger of the parent. This

was my experience. If I had taken more time and supported better, I would not

have had to experience the two plus years of hell that happened in our family.

Instead, tell her that you are worried about the acid reflux and support her

decision to take the baby to a pediatric GI doc. That way you will be

effectively addressing the cause and underlying problem, without destroying your

friendship. When you can, please give her the book. Above all, protect your

friendship first, while guiding her gently to the right sources of information

and help. Facing this problem is hard, and friends are really treasures.

scaron1009 <scaron1009@...> wrote:

The parents are doing a good job of trying to address her acid reflux

problem. They actually mentioned that they may take her to a ped

GI. I think I'll encourage that. As for what she is fed, she is

breastfed and supplemented with formula (not sure which kind

though). I told the mom about avoiding dairy and wheat but I don't

know how she feels about it. I don't want to be pushy.

The thing that worries me is the combination of things going on, not

one particular thing. I do know that this baby is very young and all

we can really do is wait and see. I just wanted to know if these

were significant warning signs.

Thanks,

Steph

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this concern

> that

> > I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

> that

> > she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> > feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the

dx

> > failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c she

> > only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that time.

> The

> > second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be consoled.

> The

> > ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

> alarming

> > thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he was

> over

> > at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him. He

> said

> > that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

> myself

> > but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2 boys

> with

> > autism.

> >

> > It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this is

> their

> > first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you think

> > these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I had

> was

> > with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

> your

> > advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Steph

> >

>

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> The hard part is not ruining your relationship with these people.

Suggesting their child has autism could scare the crap out of them,

and make them turn their back on you.

Yep, I'm sure that could happen, but I'm forever grateful to my good

friend (childless) who gently suggested that n might have

Asperger's. That got me online, and even though I was horrified at

first and it took awhile for me to take action, at least I was pointed

in the right direction.

Nell

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I agree that the book on vaccines is a very good idea. Because of

the autistic symptoms, it would be good if the mom and dad knew the

dangers of the vaccines. And if they get the book in time and if

they see the danger and don't take it lightly, then they might

possibly stop the vaccinations and save their child some harm. And

possibly the child won't get worse. You have to just do what you can

do. I do also agree that mentioning the word autism would be a bad

idea. What causes autism? the vaccines. Books, videos...whatever

good stuff you can find out there to give to them would be a

wonderful idea.

I have a little nephew who is only a little over a year and he has

had SO many year infections and health problems. It got so bad that

puss was leaking out of his ears and if not puss, then just clear

drainage. And then she took him to Children's Hospital and they did

all these tests and said he had some strep? And that some antibiotic

would wipe it out but that he couldn't have it until he turned 18?

lol That is not funny. It just saddens me is all. And we babysat

once and he coughed up this mucus. She still won't get rid of the

milk even after telling her about it. She is probably still getting

his vaccinations. It is her child and her responsibility but man, it

is just hard to know and then watch a child go through that stuff.

And too knowing, that it could turn into autism. I have told her to

think twice if not more, before getting her son the MMR but who

knows if she will listen. Maybe I should get her a book too. Here in

AR, they give the MMR at 2 years. He too had trouble holding his

milk down. She tried to breast feed but had no luck so he was put on

regular formula. So, they gave him Prevacid I think for it. My son

started going backwards @ 2 years.

Trish

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I was just wondering if anyone can help me out with this

concern

> that

> > I have. My husband's friend has a 3 month old girl and I think

> that

> > she may be showing some warning signs for autism. The first is

> > feeding problems. She is not a very good eater and she got the

dx

> > failure to thrive when she was a little over a month old, b/c

she

> > only gained 2 ounces over her original birthweight by that

time.

> The

> > second reason is that she is VERY fussy and can not be

consoled.

> The

> > ped told them that she has acid reflux. The final and most

> alarming

> > thing is, my husband called me tonight and said that when he

was

> over

> > at their house he couldn't even get the baby to look at him.

He

> said

> > that she seemed to not even notice him. I haven't seen it for

> myself

> > but my husband is very aware of these things b/c we have 2

boys

> with

> > autism.

> >

> > It worries me b/c these people are very nice people and this

is

> their

> > first child so they have no clue what to look for. Do you

think

> > these could be early signs? I don't know b/c the only sign I

had

> was

> > with my first boy and it was feeding difficulties. I am asking

> your

> > advice b/c I don't want to worry them if it is nothing.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Steph

> >

>

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>>>>>>>>>>Yep, I'm sure that could happen, but I'm forever grateful to my good

friend (childless) who gently suggested that n might have

Asperger's. That got me online, and even though I was horrified at

first and it took awhile for me to take action, at least I was pointed

in the right direction.<<<<<<<<<<

But your son was not 3 months old when someone suggested he may have Asperger's.

By the time that was suggested, you probably were questioning what was going on.

If someone had agreed or suggested my son was on the spectrum when I first

noticed signs, I would have taken it pretty well, but only for the reason that I

knew something was not right, and was beginning my search for answers.

You can't scare the crap out of new parents. Telling them their kid appears

autistic would not go over well this early, but finding subtle ways to direct

them may work well in order to build their knowledge. After all, the child may

not even be autistic or headed in that direction.

I try to inform parents of the dangers as much as possible, by using my son as

an example and telling them what I think causes autism. How they use the

information is up to them. You can strive to inform and educate as many people

as possible, but in the end, you can't save every child, because there will

always be parents who don't want advice. Some would rather go into denial

rather than admit their child is autistic. Heavan forbid there is a possiblity

that vaccines cause severe neurological problems. It is too much for many

people, which is why the battle continues on.

A great example of this is a child who has been in school with my son since

Kindergarten. They are both going into 5th grade. My son speaks well, and

passes almost undetected as being on the spectrum. The other child, has no

speech, no eye contact, no social skills, and is totally in his own world. His

parents refuse to believe he is on the spectrum, despite a doctors dx and the

fact that he is in the same classes with my son, who they know is on the

spectrum. I assumed they knew their son was, and at my son's 2nd grade birthday

party I referred to their son having autism, and she quickly told me there was

no way her son was autistic. Unfortunately, he pays the price for his parents

denial. A very heartbreaking situation.

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I was not going to tell them that she had autism. I just wanted to

know if those were warning signs that I should keep an eye on. I

would never tell someone that has a 3 month old that their child has

autism. I am not an expert even though I have 2 autistic sons. I am

feeling upset b/c I just asked if these were things to be concerned

about and I feel like some people are assuming that I want to drop

this diagnosis on these people. That was not my intent at all.

Maybe I should make my concerns more clear next time.

Thank you to all of the people who did give me great advice.

Steph

>

> >>>>>>>>>>Yep, I'm sure that could happen, but I'm forever grateful

to my good

> friend (childless) who gently suggested that n might have

> Asperger's. That got me online, and even though I was horrified at

> first and it took awhile for me to take action, at least I was

pointed

> in the right direction.<<<<<<<<<<

>

> But your son was not 3 months old when someone suggested he may

have Asperger's. By the time that was suggested, you probably were

questioning what was going on.

> If someone had agreed or suggested my son was on the spectrum when

I first noticed signs, I would have taken it pretty well, but only

for the reason that I knew something was not right, and was beginning

my search for answers.

> You can't scare the crap out of new parents. Telling them their

kid appears autistic would not go over well this early, but finding

subtle ways to direct them may work well in order to build their

knowledge. After all, the child may not even be autistic or headed

in that direction.

> I try to inform parents of the dangers as much as possible, by

using my son as an example and telling them what I think causes

autism. How they use the information is up to them. You can strive

to inform and educate as many people as possible, but in the end, you

can't save every child, because there will always be parents who

don't want advice. Some would rather go into denial rather than

admit their child is autistic. Heavan forbid there is a possiblity

that vaccines cause severe neurological problems. It is too much for

many people, which is why the battle continues on.

> A great example of this is a child who has been in school with my

son since Kindergarten. They are both going into 5th grade. My son

speaks well, and passes almost undetected as being on the spectrum.

The other child, has no speech, no eye contact, no social skills, and

is totally in his own world. His parents refuse to believe he is on

the spectrum, despite a doctors dx and the fact that he is in the

same classes with my son, who they know is on the spectrum. I

assumed they knew their son was, and at my son's 2nd grade birthday

party I referred to their son having autism, and she quickly told me

there was no way her son was autistic. Unfortunately, he pays the

price for his parents denial. A very heartbreaking situation.

> a J

>

>

>

>

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> But your son was not 3 months old when someone suggested he may have

Asperger's. By the time that was suggested, you probably were

questioning what was going on.

Yes, I agree that dropping the " A-bomb " as said might be too

much too soon. In my case the feedback I was getting at that point was

pretty much " he's fine, what are you worried about? " from the people

who never saw his epic meltdowns, and " you need to be a stricter

parent " from the people who did. So my friend's suggestion of

Asperger's was actually helpful for a change.

If I had just gotten diet advice about my daughter's nursing/vomiting

troubles as an infant, it would have been fantastic. All I got was

" don't drink coffee " and that just didn;t do it.

Nell

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>>>>>>>>>I was not going to tell them that she had autism. I just wanted to

know if those were warning signs that I should keep an eye on. I

would never tell someone that has a 3 month old that their child has

autism. I am not an expert even though I have 2 autistic sons. I am

feeling upset b/c I just asked if these were things to be concerned

about and I feel like some people are assuming that I want to drop

this diagnosis on these people. That was not my intent at all.

Maybe I should make my concerns more clear next time.<<<<<

I know you weren't, my post was in response to those who suggested you do tell

them the child shows signs of autism.

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>>>>>>>In my case the feedback I was getting at that point was

pretty much " he's fine, what are you worried about? " >>>>>>>>

Yes, this was what I got as well, and it is equally frustrating. I knew

something was wrong at 9 months, but had to wait till 3-1/2 to get the dx.

Family and friends felt I was over-reacting, which drove me crazy, because I was

the one home 24/7 watching him act like a mad man, and have meltdowns every half

hour or so.

a J

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