Re: the family connection of ASD

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>I am still trying to figure that out as well.

My father has some issues as a child and now in his advanced age(68)

He is having Parkinsoan symptoms. Of course he has a doc who told him

it is probably parkinsons, and a doc who told him it is metals. He did

seem to have elevated mercury levels. as did I and my daughter. her

was the most elevated. So I figure if the mercury was there I want to

make sure it is gone whether it fixes the problem or not.

The truth is we are susceptible to all of this and perhaps reducing

metal load will lessen the severity of the condition.

Hope this helps!

> I have just discovered that my two male first cousins (on my dad's

> side) had issues as children. This would include aggression,

> dyslexia, and ADHD. One went to a special school. One was on

> Ritalin. Their mother says that they " outgrew " their conditions.

>

> I have also discovered that my own father had issues as a child,

> including aggression. He is still lacking in social skills and has

> oddities.

>

> Now, I am feeling like my son's ASD is from my genes. The girls in

> my dad's family are all okay. The boys are not. I have one ASD son

> and one NT son (who is mostly non-vax).

>

> Is the family connection just a matter of genetic detoxification

> impairment? What about my dad? He is 70. His vaccines were likely

> minimal. My cousin's vaccines vaccines were also likely minimal -

> they were born in the very early 60s. Is the genetic connection

> anything more - I mean like something that is not able to be fixed?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Now, I am feeling like my son's ASD is from my genes.

Well, it's genes + environmental insult, the same as a lot of other

medical problems like cancer. The environmental insult is a necessary

part of the equation.

What about my dad? He is 70. His vaccines were likely

> minimal.

But there are many many other ways to get poisoned -- Hg is in the air

and the food supply, and there are other heavy metals and chemicals

that can really mess people up.

Nell

[Guest guest]

IMO, its genetic predisposition to lousy detoxification abilities, and

sometimes, (not talking about anyone specifically) it can be the difference in

how some parents parent boys and girls.

I have had more than a few families in my practice that have had aggressive boys

and they always point to a genetic link with other aggressive males in their

families.

But when you look closer you find the parents have very different rules in the

family for boys and girls. The girls are given responsibility and consequences

for their actions, and grow up responsibly. The boys' behavior, sometimes for

generations, is excused, they are babied, by the moms and are given no

responsibility.

And when they act aggressively when they are young, parents are PROUD, and

encourage it. I have actually had parents laugh when they talk about how their

preschool boy was kicked out of preschool due to kicking and hitting other

children.

[ ] Re: the family connection of ASD

> Now, I am feeling like my son's ASD is from my genes.

Well, it's genes + environmental insult, the same as a lot of other

medical problems like cancer. The environmental insult is a necessary

part of the equation.

What about my dad? He is 70. His vaccines were likely

> minimal.

But there are many many other ways to get poisoned -- Hg is in the air

and the food supply, and there are other heavy metals and chemicals

that can really mess people up.

Nell

[Guest guest]

How many mercury amalgam dental fillings did/does your father have? If he now

has false teeth he may have had lots of mercury fillings before his teeth were

pulled. Also the pink part " gums " of false teeth contain mercury and cadmium.

What line of work is/was he in? If he was in the service he probably got some

extra vaccines and exposure to various toxins.

S S

>I am still trying to figure that out as well.<br>

My father has some issues as a child and now in his advanced age(68)<br>

He is having Parkinsoan symptoms. Of course he has a doc who told him<br>

it is probably parkinsons, and a doc who told him it is metals. He did<br>

seem to have elevated mercury levels. as did I and my daughter. her<br>

was the most elevated. So I figure if the mercury was there I want to<br>

make sure it is gone whether it fixes the problem or not. <br>

The truth is we are susceptible to all of this and perhaps reducing<br>

metal load will lessen the severity of the condition.<br>

Hope this helps!<br>

<br>

> I have just discovered that my two male first cousins (on my dad's <br>

> side) had issues as children. This would include aggression, <br>

> dyslexia, and ADHD. One went to a special school. One was on <br>

> Ritalin. Their mother says that they " outgrew " their conditions.<br>

> <br>

> I have also discovered that my own father had issues as a child, <br>

> including aggression. He is still lacking in social skills and has <br>

> oddities.<br>

> <br>

> Now, I am feeling like my son's ASD is from my genes. The girls in <br>

> my dad's family are all okay. The boys are not. I have one ASD son <br>

> and one NT son (who is mostly non-vax).<br>

> <br>

> Is the family connection just a matter of genetic detoxification <br>

> impairment? What about my dad? He is 70. His vaccines were likely <br>

> minimal. My cousin's vaccines vaccines were also likely minimal - <br>

> they were born in the very early 60s. Is the genetic connection <br>

> anything more - I mean like something that is not able to be fixed? <br>

> <br>

> Thanks!<br>

> <br>

><br>

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> Now, I am feeling like my son's ASD is from my genes.

My son has a genetic dx. I chose not to believe it, and now he is

recovered. If *anyone* dares to indicate that my son's issues

are/were genetic, they had better be standing at least 25 feet away

from me and already running LOL

> Is the family connection just a matter of genetic detoxification

> impairment?

For my family, which has lots of similar issues [bipolar, ADHD, AS,

diabetes, etc], yes.

>>What about my dad? He is 70. His vaccines were likely

> minimal. My cousin's vaccines vaccines were also likely minimal -

> they were born in the very early 60s.

This is probably why their issues were either tolerable or they " grew

out of them " .

>> Is the genetic connection

> anything more - I mean like something that is not able to be fixed?

I chose NOT to believe that ANY of my son's issues could not be fixed.

And they were all fixed. I would accept a " genetic " reasoning only

AFTER all other avenues were explored, and probably not even then.

Dana

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I was born in 1962 and had more than enough vaccines: DPT, polio, M, M, & R,

smallpox, etc, but fewer than they get now and some separate that are now given

together. I was also given extras of some, probably because my mother had a

childhood friend with polio and she would have taken me along when my younger

sister got vaccinated and probably said, " go ahead give her another booster " :-(

Perhaps if I were younger I would have ended up on the spectrum.

S S

My cousin's vaccines vaccines were also likely minimal - <br>

> they were born in the very early 60s.<br>

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I'm pretty sure I'd be spectrum bound if I was born in the 1980s. I

was born in 1965 and had 5-6 vaccines prior to entering

kindergarten. None were in my first 2 years of life. I was

actually allowed to get chicken pox and mumps! How times change.

I started going down hill when my mouth became an 'amalgam

motel'...about age 7-14 years. Years of depression and eating

disorders followed.

Pam

> My cousin's vaccines vaccines were also likely minimal - <br>

> > they were born in the very early 60s.<br>

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> I'm pretty sure I'd be spectrum bound if I was born in the 1980s.

Count me in too. I was born in 1958, had the mumps, and no amalgams

until I was out of college. When I got about three amalgams all at

once in my 30s, suddenly I couldn't remember *anything anymore. My dh

says the RhoGams made me autistic -- and it's true, I spent months

with my hands over my ears avoiding contact with anyone outside my

immediate family.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Maybe the family connection is really how poor your family dental

coverage is...thus how many amalgams you get...

I too was normal..had a few vaccines as a child of the 70's but not

like today. I did not get ASD like until they starting filling my head

with mercury. Your history sounds like me. Most of my " genetic " family

links to ASD disorders are the family members born in the 90's or the

family members with metal teeth. The ones without all the shots and

fillings seem to be immune to this genetic illness of ASD...

> >

> > I'm pretty sure I'd be spectrum bound if I was born in the 1980s.

>

> Count me in too. I was born in 1958, had the mumps, and no amalgams

> until I was out of college. When I got about three amalgams all at

> once in my 30s, suddenly I couldn't remember *anything anymore. My dh

> says the RhoGams made me autistic -- and it's true, I spent months

> with my hands over my ears avoiding contact with anyone outside my

> immediate family.

>

> Nell

>