Re: Off Topic: DL-Phenylalanine aka DLPA

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Forgot to mention to take DLPA on an empty stomach.

>

> Thought this was a simple, easy way of explaining how DLPA works:

>

> " DLPA destroys the enzyme that causes endorphins to self-destruct,

and

> so extends their life. "

>

> I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally,

if

> I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.

>

> I feel DLPA is an essential part of my LDN therapy.

>

> Read the warnings when considering using it.

>

> -Art

>

> Diagnosed with MS April 1988

> Using LDN since March 2005

> --

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Art, now I know how DLPA works. Also, I hadn't considered taking

DLPA more than mornings, and am glad to know your schedule and how you

work flexibly with it.

I disagree with you, though, that DLPA is Off Topic. I consider it part

of my LDN therapy, too.

Best health,

Jo

Art Hansen wrote:

> Thought this was a simple, easy way of explaining how DLPA works:

>

> " DLPA destroys the enzyme that causes endorphins to self-destruct, and

> so extends their life. "

>

> I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally, if

> I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.

>

> I feel DLPA is an essential part of my LDN therapy.

>

> Read the warnings when considering using it.

>

> -Art

>

> Diagnosed with MS April 1988

> Using LDN since March 2005

> --

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Stanley,

I was diagnosed with MS 1988. It was Relapsing/Remitting but has

moved on the the next stage. Too early in the morning here for me to

remember the exact term. Anyway, I don't know if LDN will help with

Chronic Progressive but I do feel it can't hurt. Not enough is known

about LDN. WE are the researchers. I have used Avonex, Copaxone,

Novatrone, gallons of IV solumedrol and tons of Prednisone pills and

LDN is the only thing that has REALLY helped and it is the ONLY thing

I will ever take for MY MS. I also take 4-AP, a prescription med

which helps with some symptoms and available through a compounding

pharmacy only. DLPA and a bunch of vitamins/supplements are on my

menu, too

I am not a doctor and don't pretend to be a pointy-headed expert, but

you are welcome to email privately if you want. I'm just an average

guy who happens to have MS and I'm fighting it with tooth and nail.

I hope you feel better soon.

Art

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>

> Art,

>

> Hello, I am Stanley Hunt and I also have had MS about the same

amount of time as you. I have got Chronic Progressive, as you know,

there are different types of MS. I need to find out if LDN will help

with this type of MS or not. If you could help, I would appreciate

it.

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning Art:

I am going to be giving DLPA a try ASAP thanks to your and other's comments. I am going to try your routine - morning and afternoon dosing. If you don't mind, may I please ask a few questions?

How long after taking it on a empty stomach should I wait before eating (my morning dose)?

How long after eating lunch should I wait before taking my afternoon dose?

Do you have a particular brand you like and where do you get it?

Thank you so much! I hope you have a wonderful day.

Good health to you,Suzanne

Art Hansen" <rtee54@...> wrote:I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally, if I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.

[Guest guest]

Hi Art,

I have three questions.

Were did you find the statement about DLPA destroying the enzyme that causes

endorphins to self-distruct? I couldn't find it at

http://www.ldninfo.org

Since DLPA is an amino acid, wouldn't a person on a high protein diet get more

than enough to meet his/her needs in terms of LDN?

What symptoms do you experience when you do not take your daily regimen of DLPA?

With best wishes,

Dudley Delany

dudley_delany

[low dose naltrexone] Off Topic: DL-Phenylalanine aka DLPA

Thought this was a simple, easy way of explaining how DLPA works:

" DLPA destroys the enzyme that causes endorphins to self-destruct, and

so extends their life. "

I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally, if

I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.

I feel DLPA is an essential part of my LDN therapy.

Read the warnings when considering using it.

-Art

Diagnosed with MS April 1988

Using LDN since March 2005

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[Guest guest]

I take it two hours AFTER eating and wait two hours BEFORE eating

again.

Dr. Bihari recommends Solaray brand DLPA.

Make sure you read the warnings first before using.

Art

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> I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally,

> if I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Dudley,

I found THAT description on someone's private Blog. Not sure if I can

find it again, but I'll try. On 's site she had links to two

very good descriptions but as of right now they're not working. Not

sure why.

Not sure about your second question, all I know is Dr. Bihari

recommended using DLPA to keep the endorphin up througout the day.

Since starting LDN March 2005 I've used at least 1000mgs of DLPA

daily and have never missed a dose so I don't know how I'd feel

without it and I don't plan on experimenting. I'm walking and seeing

better since stopping the CRAB meds. LDN and DLPA are the ticket.

Take care.

Art

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>

> Hi Art,

>

> I have three questions.

>

> Were did you find the statement about DLPA destroying the enzyme

that causes endorphins to self-distruct? I couldn't find it at

>

> http://www.ldninfo.org

>

> Since DLPA is an amino acid, wouldn't a person on a high protein

diet get more than enough to meet his/her needs in terms of LDN?

>

> What symptoms do you experience when you do not take your daily

regimen of DLPA?

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

> dudley_delany

>

[Guest guest]

Art, I just replaced those non-working links. It's a shame they no

longer work as they were great links.

DL-Phenylalanine

http://www.hyperhealth.com/remote/topic/DL.php

Art you might take that every once in awhile 3rd DL-P at 7:30pm or 8pm.

[Guest guest]

Dudley,

That recommendation by Bihari came via a phone consult with him. He

said to keep endorphins up throghout the day that he recommended that

anyone who can take DL-P safely to take 500mg twice daily of DL-

Phenylalanine.

There are cautionary warnings so please do your research on this

product. Anyone with high BP should not take.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bren,

>

> There are quite a few

safety precautions

involved when using

DLPA. See the section

headed " Safety " near the

bottom of

> =========

Yes Dudley, there are

and on my site I warn of

these and tell people to

do your research.

> There are cautionary

warnings so please do

your research on this

> product. Anyone with

high BP should not take.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dudley,

From 's site:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ladvc

Art

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>

> Hi Art,

>

> I know that Dr. Bihari recomended DLPA for a man with MS to treat

his depression, as documented here:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/2boot2

>

> However, I cannot find anywhere his recommendation that all LDNers

use DLPA.

>

> Let me know if you can come up with the appropriate reference.

>

> Thanks!

>

> All the best,

>

> Dudley

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dudley, that's exactly where I get mine. Lowest price around.

Art

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>

> Art,

>

> You can get Solaray DLPA cheaper from Amazon.com through this link:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/yqgsxz

>

> Dudley

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Bren,

Yes, they were excellent links with great descriptions of DLPA. Too

bad they're gone. The new ones you put in their place seem to be more

than adequate replacements. Good job.

Tried the 3rd 500mgs DLPA at 8PM and slept the night through. Lately

my legs have felt uncomfortable at night especially after an active

day of walking and it's been ruining my sleep. Will try again

tonight. Besides maintaining endorphin levels DLPA is known to help

ease pain and lift depression albeit in a subtle way.

Thanks for the tip!

Art

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>

>

> Art, I just replaced those non-working links. It's a shame they no

> longer work as they were great links.

>

> DL-Phenylalanine

> http://www.hyperhealth.com/remote/topic/DL.php

>

>

> Art you might take that every once in awhile 3rd DL-P at 7:30pm or

8pm.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone. There seems to be a good amount of discussion about DLPA taken with LDN (esspeccially for use to try to help out with depression and fatigue). I bought some DLPA the other week and started giving it to my wife. Because of the wacky schedule I have with work and because she still sleeps late, the system I've come up with is I give her a healthy smoothie before I leave for work around 8:30am. Then she goes back to sleep and gets up anywhere from 11am to noon and eats lunch.

I leave her two 500mg DLPA pills to take at the same time...and then she waits about 1 hour before eating lunch (which is small, anyway). Is it not good to take 1000mg of DLPA at the same time, instead of spreading it out? My wife, unfortunately, is not very compliant when it come to taking pills. She probably wouldn't remember to take the DLPA two times a day, spread out. It's hard enough for her to remember to take her lunch pills every day.

I'd appreciate any suggestions from those of you who have more knowledge about this. Also, I'm wondering if DLPA, and even LDN, may not go well together with some of the other meds and sups she's taking, including Elavil,Topamax,Amantadine and St. 's Wort.

Much thanks, in advance...

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi everyone. There seems to be a good amount of discussion about

DLPA taken

> with LDN (esspeccially for use to try to help out with depression

and

> fatigue). I bought some DLPA the other week and started giving

it to my wife.

> Because of the wacky schedule I have with work and because she still

sleeps

> late, the system I've come up with is I give her a healthy smoothie

before I

> leave for work around 8:30am. Then she goes back to sleep and gets

up anywhere

> from 11am to noon and eats lunch.

>

> I leave her two 500mg DLPA pills to take at the same time...and then

she

> waits about 1 hour before eating lunch (which is small, anyway). Is

it not good to

> take 1000mg of DLPA at the same time, instead of spreading it out?

My wife,

> unfortunately, is not very compliant when it come to taking pills.

She

> probably wouldn't remember to take the DLPA two times a day, spread

out. It's

> hard enough for her to remember to take her lunch pills every day.

>

> I'd appreciate any suggestions from those of you who have more

knowledge

> about this. Also, I'm wondering if DLPA, and even LDN, may not go

well together

> with some of the other meds and sups she's taking, including

> Elavil,Topamax,Amantadine and St. 's Wort.

>

> Much thanks, in advance...

>

>

=============

Wake her 1 hour before her smoothie and give her the 500mg DLP, then

she can take another later. What illness does she have? Sounds as

though she is sleeping too much. Consider using organic goat milk for

the smoothie if you use dairy, as the goat milk is easier to digest.

If she is staying up at night past 11pm try to get her on a better

sleep schedule. Is there someone who can come in and give her the

meds, are you checking the trash to be sure she's taking her meds, she

may also be flushing some of them. A healthy diet and lifestyle is

important. Your wife could use physical therapy, massage therapy and

acupuncture. Just some suggestions. What time does she take her LDN?

[Guest guest]

Hi , I am new here so I can't answer your questions - but I do

have an observation ... You sound like a very caring and wonderful

husband! Hope that everyone is feeling better, etteJ.

>

> Hi everyone. There seems to be a good amount of discussion about

DLPA taken

> with LDN (esspeccially for use to try to help out with depression

and

> fatigue). I bought some DLPA the other week and started giving

it to my wife.

> Because of the wacky schedule I have with work and because she

still sleeps

> late, the system I've come up with is I give her a healthy smoothie

before I

> leave for work around 8:30am. Then she goes back to sleep and

gets up anywhere

> from 11am to noon and eats lunch.

>

> I leave her two 500mg DLPA pills to take at the same time...and

then she

> waits about 1 hour before eating lunch (which is small, anyway). Is

it not good to

> take 1000mg of DLPA at the same time, instead of spreading it

out? My wife,

> unfortunately, is not very compliant when it come to taking

pills. She

> probably wouldn't remember to take the DLPA two times a day, spread

out. It's

> hard enough for her to remember to take her lunch pills every day.

>

> I'd appreciate any suggestions from those of you who have more

knowledge

> about this. Also, I'm wondering if DLPA, and even LDN, may not go

well together

> with some of the other meds and sups she's taking, including

> Elavil,Topamax,Amantadine and St. 's Wort.

>

> Much thanks, in advance...

>

>

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's new at

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>

[Guest guest]

I've read some people take 2000-3000mgs daily, so it probably won't

hurt her taking two 500mgs capsules at the same time. I would suggest

that she take one in the AM and one in the PM, though, all on an

empty stomach. Make sure you're aware of the cautionary warnings that

accompany DLPA.

Art

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>

> Hi everyone. There seems to be a good amount of discussion about

DLPA taken

> with LDN (esspeccially for use to try to help out with depression

and

> fatigue). I bought some DLPA the other week and started giving

it to my wife.

> Because of the wacky schedule I have with work and because she

still sleeps

> late, the system I've come up with is I give her a healthy smoothie

before I

> leave for work around 8:30am. Then she goes back to sleep and

gets up anywhere

> from 11am to noon and eats lunch.

>

> I leave her two 500mg DLPA pills to take at the same time...and

then she

> waits about 1 hour before eating lunch (which is small, anyway). Is

it not good to

> take 1000mg of DLPA at the same time, instead of spreading it

out? My wife,

> unfortunately, is not very compliant when it come to taking

pills. She

> probably wouldn't remember to take the DLPA two times a day, spread

out. It's

> hard enough for her to remember to take her lunch pills every day.

>

> I'd appreciate any suggestions from those of you who have more

knowledge

> about this. Also, I'm wondering if DLPA, and even LDN, may not go

well together

> with some of the other meds and sups she's taking, including

> Elavil,Topamax,Amantadine and St. 's Wort.

>

> Much thanks, in advance...

>

>

[Guest guest]

-,

I was told by Dr. Bihari, when I first started taking LDN & DLPA,

not to take St. 's Wort with DLPA.

-- In low dose naltrexone , howpearl@... wrote:

>

> Hi everyone. There seems to be a good amount of discussion about

DLPA taken

> with LDN (esspeccially for use to try to help out with depression

and

> fatigue). I bought some DLPA the other week and started giving

it to my wife.

> Because of the wacky schedule I have with work and because she

still sleeps

> late, the system I've come up with is I give her a healthy smoothie

before I

> leave for work around 8:30am. Then she goes back to sleep and

gets up anywhere

> from 11am to noon and eats lunch.

>

> I leave her two 500mg DLPA pills to take at the same time...and

then she

> waits about 1 hour before eating lunch (which is small, anyway). Is

it not good to

> take 1000mg of DLPA at the same time, instead of spreading it

out? My wife,

> unfortunately, is not very compliant when it come to taking

pills. She

> probably wouldn't remember to take the DLPA two times a day, spread

out. It's

> hard enough for her to remember to take her lunch pills every day.

>

> I'd appreciate any suggestions from those of you who have more

knowledge

> about this. Also, I'm wondering if DLPA, and even LDN, may not go

well together

> with some of the other meds and sups she's taking, including

> Elavil,Topamax,Amantadine and St. 's Wort.

>

> Much thanks, in advance...

>

>

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's new at

> http://www.aol.com

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, and thanks to everyone who replied so quickly to my questions about LDN and DLPA and my concerns for my wife, Donna, who's had MS for 30 years...and has been on 4.5mg of LDN for just over 2 months, now.

In answer to some of your questions, she's actually been on the DLPA for around 3 weeks and she just recently had an unrelated doctor's visit , where her blood pressure was checked as a routine...everything was fine. She definetly goes to bed too late. She takes her LDN nitely between 9 and 10pm...and goes to bed close to 2am. In her morning smoothie, I put in rice milk or almond milk with a little rice protein powder, Udo's 3-6-9-oil, a liquid amino acid blend, a shot of acai juice, a few dropfuls of tumeric, and a banana and maybe some strawberries for good luck. This is the only way I know she'll have some protein in her in the morning with her pills and supplements. She's now, basically on the Best Bet Diet and has a trainer come over 2 or 3 times a week for some exercise.

I'll see if I can spread out the DLPA a bit more.

Thank God she's never been in pain and has no spasticity...she's just very week ... the left side of her body (arm and leg) don't functon well ...she has a geat amount of fatigue...of and course, is fairly depressed.

Again, thanks for all of your help. It's great to see so many people coming together for the noble cause of helping one another.

Regards...

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, and thanks to everyone who replied so quickly to my questions

about LDN

> and DLPA and my concerns for my wife, Donna, who's had MS for 30

years...and

> has been on 4.5mg of LDN for just over 2 months, now.

>

> In answer to some of your questions, she's actually been on the

DLPA for

> around 3 weeks and she just recently had an unrelated doctor's

visit , where

> her blood pressure was checked as a routine...everything was fine.

She

> definetly goes to bed too late. She takes her LDN nitely between 9

and 10pm...and

> goes to bed close to 2am. In her morning smoothie, I put in rice

milk or

> almond milk with a little rice protein powder, Udo's 3-6-9-oil, a

liquid amino

> acid blend, a shot of acai juice, a few dropfuls of tumeric, and a

banana and

> maybe some strawberries for good luck. This is the only way I know

she'll

> have some protein in her in the morning with her pills and

supplements.

> She's now, basically on the Best Bet Diet and has a trainer come

over 2 or 3 times

> a week for some exercise.

>

> I'll see if I can spread out the DLPA a bit more.

>

> Thank God she's never been in pain and has no spasticity...she's

just very

> week ... the left side of her body (arm and leg) don't functon

well ...she has a

> geat amount of fatigue...of and course, is fairly depressed.

>

> Again, thanks for all of your help. It's great to see so many

people coming

> together for the noble cause of helping one another.

>

> Regards...

>

=============

Have you ever had your wife checked for lyme disease by a LLD(Lyme

Literate Doctor) and tested via IGeneX Labs, Bowen Labs or a Bradford

Microscope?

[Guest guest]

Earlier message from Art below. It is a good summary of DLPA

Thought this was a simple, easy way of explaining how DLPA works:"DLPA destroys the enzyme that causes endorphins to self-destruct, and so extends their life."I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally, if I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.I feel DLPA is an essential part of my LDN therapy.Read the warnings when considering using it.-ArtDiagnosed with MS April 1988Using LDN since March 2005--

[Guest guest]

After 's last post regarding DLPA I may just go up to 2000-2500

mgs a day as an experiment. Apparently it's safe to take at that

dosage.

Art

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>

> Earlier message from Art below. It is a good summary of DLPA

>

>

> Thought this was a simple, easy way of explaining how DLPA works:

>

> " DLPA destroys the enzyme that causes endorphins to self-

destruct, and

> so extends their life. "

>

> I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and

occasionally, if

> I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.

>

> I feel DLPA is an essential part of my LDN therapy.

>

> Read the warnings when considering using it.

>

> -Art

>

> Diagnosed with MS April 1988

> Using LDN since March 2005

> --

>

[Guest guest]

I have high blood pressure but it is controlled through medication. Does DLPA interfere with the medication? Aletha Wittmann <Aletha@...> wrote: Earlier message from Art below. It is a good summary of DLPA Thought this was a simple, easy way of explaining how DLPA works:"DLPA destroys the enzyme that causes endorphins to self-destruct, and so extends their

life."I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally, if I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.I feel DLPA is an essential part of my LDN therapy.Read the warnings when considering using it.-ArtDiagnosed with MS April 1988Using LDN since March 2005-- Live simply, Love generously, Care deeply,Speak kindly, Leave the rest to God

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[Guest guest]

I suspect it would. It would be like taking LDN with an immunosuppressant.

From: vic a.

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:53 PM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Off Topic: DL-Phenylalanine aka DLPA

I have high blood pressure but it is controlled through medication. Does DLPA interfere with the medication? Aletha Wittmann <Aletha@...> wrote: Earlier message from Art below. It is a good summary of DLPA Thought this was a simple, easy way of explaining how DLPA works:"DLPA destroys the enzyme that causes endorphins to self-destruct, and so extends their

life."I take 500mgs around 10AM, another 500mgs at 3PM and occasionally, if I've had a bad MS day, 500mgs when I take my LDN at 10PM.I feel DLPA is an essential part of my LDN therapy.Read the warnings when considering using it.-ArtDiagnosed with MS April 1988Using LDN since March 2005-- Live simply, Love generously, Care deeply,Speak kindly, Leave the rest to God

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[Guest guest]

The warning on DLPA is clear - Not to be used by those with chronic

high blood pressure.

Art

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>

> I have high blood pressure but it is controlled through medication.

Does DLPA interfere with the medication?

>