Re: Virastop -almost done.

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> I think we might be almost done with VS. We had to hold at 9 a day

> for 2 weeks before ds's bladder pain symptom cleared. Once that went

> away we upped to 10/day with no change and then up to 11/day with no

> change. If we continue to see no signs of more virus coming out at

> this dose that'll make me think we are done. (we've always gotten

> symptoms when going up 1 VS) Or should I be looking at increasing the

> OLE too? He takes 3 2Xday.

Are you fighting yeast with each dose of VS/OLE? For my son, that

means viruses are still coming out, even if I don't see symptoms.

Yesterday I learned that I can reduce my son's yeast control, so

things are looking up here!

Can you give vitamin C without causing diarrhea or other negative

symptoms? For my son, I once thought I was done with OLE, because

increasing it did not cause any changes, but after I removed it, my

son got a cold and the virus went straight into his brain.

After giving lots of vitamin C for several months, now my son is fully

C loaded, and in fact if I give him supplemental vitamin C he will

regress. He had a cold a few weeks ago, which did NOT go into his brain!

Vitamin A is also probably important, but my son has been fully loaded

with vitamin A for more than a year now, and I have not been able to

supplement it without causing toxicity symptoms.

Anyway, you might try reducing the doses down slowly and end with 2 VS

and 2 OLE per day. Keep that for a while, see if you notice anything.

Good luck.

Dana

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> Are you fighting yeast with each dose of VS/OLE? For my son, that

> means viruses are still coming out, even if I don't see symptoms.

> Yesterday I learned that I can reduce my son's yeast control, so

> things are looking up here!

Dana, its always been very hard for me to know when ds has yeast.

He doesn't get obvious yeast symptoms like my dd or other kids I

read about. I am giving him probiotics and biotin 3Xday. As far as

I can tell he isn't having a yeast problem.

> Can you give vitamin C without causing diarrhea or other negative

> symptoms? For my son, I once thought I was done with OLE, because

> increasing it did not cause any changes, but after I removed it, my

> son got a cold and the virus went straight into his brain.

He's taking 1000mg buffered C 3xday with no problems.

> Vitamin A is also probably important, but my son has been fully

loaded

> with vitamin A for more than a year now, and I have not been able

to

> supplement it without causing toxicity symptoms.

We did the high dose A at the begining of the VS protocol and he now

takes 10,000IU 2Xday. Never saw any toxicity symptoms.

> Anyway, you might try reducing the doses down slowly and end with

2 VS

> and 2 OLE per day. Keep that for a while, see if you notice

anything.

>

> Good luck.

>

> Dana

Thanks for your input

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Can you share your protocol?

Barb

[ ] Virastop -almost done.

>I think we might be almost done with VS. We had to hold at 9 a day

> for 2 weeks before ds's bladder pain symptom cleared. Once that went

> away we upped to 10/day with no change and then up to 11/day with no

> change. If we continue to see no signs of more virus coming out at

> this dose that'll make me think we are done. (we've always gotten

> symptoms when going up 1 VS) Or should I be looking at increasing the

> OLE too? He takes 3 2Xday. I feel like we've seen a lot of results at

> lower doses than what other people are using which makes me wonder if

> we should keep going up. But I don't want to give them to him if he

> doesn't need them. Thoughts? How long do you hold at the upper dose

> before tappering down?

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> Can you share your protocol?

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> Barb

We started with 1VS and 1OLE a day. We also did the high dose vit.

A protocol the first week and then gave 10000IU A 2Xday

maintenence. We increased the VS and OLE very slowly working up to

2Xday and then 3Xday (VS only-left OLE 2Xday). Its taken us 10

weeks to work up to 11VS divided into 3 doses. About every 3-4

weeks I switch out the OLE for echinacea/goldenseal or Sambucol for

a week. We started with giving the VS away from food but this

caused stomach upset so we switched to giving it with meals and

still saw results. We also added other supplements in as we went

and some he was taking before. We gave Lysine for cold sores and

bladder pain.

Right now it looks like this:

AM: Biotin, 2 Colostrum, Lactobacillus Sporogenes, Lethacin, 3 OLE,

4VS, vit A, 1000mg C.

Afternoon: Biotin, Lactobacillus Reuteri, 3VS, 1000mg C.

PM: Biotin, 2 Colostrum, Magnesium glycinate, Nortic naturals

ultimate omega, 3 OLE, Lactobacillus Reuteri, 4 VS, vit A, 1000mg C.

HTH's,

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If we continue to see no signs of more virus coming out at

this dose that'll make me think we are done. (we've always gotten

symptoms when going up 1 VS)

Hi

What are your son's signs of " virus coming out " ?

Thanks

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> Dana, its always been very hard for me to know when ds has yeast.

> He doesn't get obvious yeast symptoms like my dd or other kids I

> read about. I am giving him probiotics and biotin 3Xday. As far as

> I can tell he isn't having a yeast problem.

Then that would be one sign that the viruses are eliminated.

> He's taking 1000mg buffered C 3xday with no problems.

Keep that dose. If he can take that much without problems, then he

still needs it.

> We did the high dose A at the begining of the VS protocol and he now

> takes 10,000IU 2Xday. Never saw any toxicity symptoms.

Same comment as above, he still needs it.

Dana

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He's had fever, ear ache, head ache, cough, sore throat, cold sores,

bladder pain, he had some spots that may have been rashes or maybe

just bug bites-not sure, diarrhea, muscle/tendon aches.

> If we continue to see no signs of more virus coming out at

> this dose that'll make me think we are done. (we've always gotten

> symptoms when going up 1 VS)

>

>

> Hi

> What are your son's signs of " virus coming out " ?

> Thanks

>

>

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Really appreciate your post! My suggestion would be to increase the

ViraStop to about 18 capsules per day for a couple days only. If you

see more inprovement or reaction, it will indicate a plateau or

threshold has been crossed. If you don't see further improvement, just

consider it 'done' and be weaning off it a 2-3 capsules a day. I think

that is reasonsable. Ideally, it is supposed to be a shorter term

program to get over the problem...not just be another supplement to

take for years and years.

I am trying to follow the Valtrex group and see how their responses

compair to the ViraStop. My hunch is that either will work, but doing

both together may be best because of different modes of action. of

course, someone may only have access to certain measures...so it is

great there are more alternatives out there.

I also suspect that ultimate we will find that some viruses respond

better to certain treatments. Already it is known that measles responds

to Vitamin A, and herpes responds to lysine...but other viruses aren't

helped.

A co-worker of my husband contacted him this past week saying she read

my book and learned of the enzyme program for viruses. She has Lupus

pretty bad, which is viral based. She started enzymes and it has 'saved

her life' as she put it. My husband didn't really know her until now

(it's a large building and people don't necessarily meet each other).

So it worked for Lupus in her case.

Please keep sharing! Let us know how the couple days of higher doses

works out.

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>>>> I think we might be almost done with VS. We had to hold at 9 a

day for 2 weeks before ds's bladder pain symptom cleared. Once that

went away we upped to 10/day with no change and then up to 11/day with

no change. If we continue to see no signs of more virus coming out at

> this dose that'll make me think we are done. (we've always gotten

> symptoms when going up 1 VS) Or should I be looking at increasing the

> OLE too? He takes 3 2Xday. I feel like we've seen a lot of results

at

> lower doses than what other people are using which makes me wonder if

> we should keep going up. But I don't want to give them to him if he

> doesn't need them. Thoughts? How long do you hold at the upper dose

> before tappering down?

>

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