Re: scd crisis- what should I do? food allergies forcing decision

[Guest guest]

If I were you, I would get an Rx antifungal on board and expand the

diet. The problem with elimination diets is that they force you to

rely on just a few foods and the body can then find them

problematic.

Anne

>

> Hi All,

> Well a week into the Oxypowder thing and I'm doing a lot of toilet

> cleaning after my son!! Fantastic product. It does what it says on

the

> bottle. We are having serious concerns about 's allergic

reactions

> which we suspect are food related. His entire body is erupting in

> ezcema and severe rashes.When I say severe- it is. Weeping, itchy

sores

> and even my DAN! doc is concerned. Unfortunately Great Plains Lab

are

> so slow in getting his food allergy combo result back that I do

not

> know precisely what I need to remove.-the lab did not return my

emails

> or even internal emails from the kind lady in front desk- shame on

you

> GPL!- Doctors Data have got my business in future. I got their

results

> no probs last week and even received hard copies in international

mail

> before GPL have got them to me....

>

> The thing is this- He's been strict scd for 20 mths now. We saw

great

> things at first but as soon as he started it so did the ezcema and

it

> has continued. The past 2 mths though it is getting out of

control. The

> past week we have been taking photos as it is so bad we need to

record

> it or no one would take it seriously if it clears a bit.

>

> If we have to take out nuts/eggs for example his diet would be a

> nightmare to fill him as red meat clogs him up and is unhealthy ,

he

> cannot eat fish- pollution- and self limits to just 3 veg and they

are

> pureed. He cannot eat many fruits and has candida so I am looking

at

> potatoes if we have to remove other things and thinking seriously

about

> reintroducing some other carbs. He is so skinny!!! Of course

> gluten/dairy etc is a big no, no. I cannot force soup down him 3

meals

> a day and keep him from losing more weight. I don't think he is

> digesting nuts. Help!! I always take things seriously and do

things

> 100% but I wonder why the potato is the antichrist when the

oxypowder

> is actually shifting food through his bowel at last.

>

> ANY thoughts gratefully recieved.

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, are you using any enzymes? Houston enzymes have been immensely

helpful for us, and allowed my son to leave GFCF successfully. Some

people have found them helpful with managing eczema too.

Speaking of enzymes... nuts that have not been soaked for a long

time before use are said to contain a large amount of enzyme

inhibitors. This makes them a lot harder to digest, and could be a

factor in a diet that relies heavily on nuts, like SCD. Especially

for kids with damaged guts like ours. I don't know if this is a

contributing factor for your son, but tonight I snacked on pecans

that I didn't soak first and now it feels like I have a ball of lead

in my stomach.

In Nourishing Traditions, Sally Fallon recommends soaking 4 cups of

nuts in a warm spot overnight using filtered water salted with 2

teaspoons sea salt. In the morning, the nuts are drained, spread

out on a baking sheet and placed in a warm oven (150 degrees F, max)

until completely dry, about 12-24 hours. Stir occasionally.

(Like anyone using SCD needs another step to do in the kitchen!

Sorry!) :-)

In another book, Eat Fat, Lose Fat, Sally Fallon suggests rubbing

virgin coconut oil (the kind that still smells like coconut) on the

skin for various conditions. I have used the recipe for fungal

rashes with great success on my son, and have noticed that it has

helped my own eczema a lot, too. I get deep fissures on my hands,

and right now they are now almost gone after a week of applying the

coconut oil mixture to my son's diaper area.

The recipe for fungal infections is 1 cup of virgin coconut oil and

1 teaspoon tea tree oil, mixed together. The recipe for eczema

(which I haven't tried yet) is 1 cup virgin coconut oil and 10 drops

of lavendar essential oil.

hope this helps...

Rene

-- In , " sue_lwsn " <sue@...> wrote:

>

> Hi All,

We are having serious concerns about 's allergic reactions

> which we suspect are food related. His entire body is erupting in

> ezcema and severe rashes.

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Sorry to hear about your son's eczema. It must be awful for him.

I wanted to comment on the meat issue. If the oxypowder is moving

thigs along, perhaps you could consider grass-fed organic beef. I

don't think that the grain-fed, barn-bound, antibiotic-filled beef

is good for anyone either, but organic grass-fed beef can offer the

body a great deal.

I'm not sure how things are where you live, but here I was able to

find a relatively local organic farmer and now I buy a 1/4 or 1/2

beef at a time which means it actually costs less than

buying " regular " meat at the store. I make a lot of bone broth now

for soup, and these kinds of soups can be very nutritious and

particularly helpful for kids who are self-limiting (my son will now

eat almost anything soupy which opens the door to many new foods).

Although SCD seemed to be very helpful for your son, the eczema

makes it sound like it isn't actually a good fit for him. I would

consider trying Houston enzymes perhaps, and then going with just a

few foods for a few days, and then reintroducing new foods slowly

after that. Even test results don't always show us everything we

need to know (BTW, I was never happy with GPL either) and perhaps

this approach will offer you the most confidence.

Hope things get better soon,

Anita

>

> Hi All,

> Well a week into the Oxypowder thing and I'm doing a lot of toilet

> cleaning after my son!! Fantastic product. It does what it says on

the

> bottle. We are having serious concerns about 's allergic

reactions

> which we suspect are food related. His entire body is erupting in

> ezcema and severe rashes.When I say severe- it is. Weeping, itchy

sores

> and even my DAN! doc is concerned. Unfortunately Great Plains Lab

are

> so slow in getting his food allergy combo result back that I do

not

> know precisely what I need to remove.-the lab did not return my

emails

> or even internal emails from the kind lady in front desk- shame on

you

> GPL!- Doctors Data have got my business in future. I got their

results

> no probs last week and even received hard copies in international

mail

> before GPL have got them to me....

>

> The thing is this- He's been strict scd for 20 mths now. We saw

great

> things at first but as soon as he started it so did the ezcema and

it

> has continued. The past 2 mths though it is getting out of

control. The

> past week we have been taking photos as it is so bad we need to

record

> it or no one would take it seriously if it clears a bit.

>

> If we have to take out nuts/eggs for example his diet would be a

> nightmare to fill him as red meat clogs him up and is unhealthy ,

he

> cannot eat fish- pollution- and self limits to just 3 veg and they

are

> pureed. He cannot eat many fruits and has candida so I am looking

at

> potatoes if we have to remove other things and thinking seriously

about

> reintroducing some other carbs. He is so skinny!!! Of course

> gluten/dairy etc is a big no, no. I cannot force soup down him 3

meals

> a day and keep him from losing more weight. I don't think he is

> digesting nuts. Help!! I always take things seriously and do

things

> 100% but I wonder why the potato is the antichrist when the

oxypowder

> is actually shifting food through his bowel at last.

>

> ANY thoughts gratefully recieved.

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

I tried SCD for 4 months and found it was unsuitable to my son.

First - he could not tolerate most of vegs and fruits.Second - it did

not help to resolve his candida issues. He had to survive with just 5

foods - meat, egg whites, cabbage, onion, pear and after 4 months on

SCD I still could not add any new food. Finally I dropped it and

started enzymes. If according to SCD children cannot digest starches

enzymes can help it without eliminating all foods your son can

tolerate. To my son enzymes have brought much more improvement than

SCD.

Galina

>

> Hi All,

> Well a week into the Oxypowder thing and I'm doing a lot of toilet

> cleaning after my son!! Fantastic product. It does what it says on

the

> bottle. We are having serious concerns about 's allergic

reactions

> which we suspect are food related. His entire body is erupting in

> ezcema and severe rashes.When I say severe- it is. Weeping, itchy

sores

> and even my DAN! doc is concerned. Unfortunately Great Plains Lab

are

> so slow in getting his food allergy combo result back that I do not

> know precisely what I need to remove.-the lab did not return my

emails

> or even internal emails from the kind lady in front desk- shame on

you

> GPL!- Doctors Data have got my business in future. I got their

results

> no probs last week and even received hard copies in international

mail

> before GPL have got them to me....

>

> The thing is this- He's been strict scd for 20 mths now. We saw

great

> things at first but as soon as he started it so did the ezcema and

it

> has continued. The past 2 mths though it is getting out of control.

The

> past week we have been taking photos as it is so bad we need to

record

> it or no one would take it seriously if it clears a bit.

>

> If we have to take out nuts/eggs for example his diet would be a

> nightmare to fill him as red meat clogs him up and is unhealthy ,

he

> cannot eat fish- pollution- and self limits to just 3 veg and they

are

> pureed. He cannot eat many fruits and has candida so I am looking

at

> potatoes if we have to remove other things and thinking seriously

about

> reintroducing some other carbs. He is so skinny!!! Of course

> gluten/dairy etc is a big no, no. I cannot force soup down him 3

meals

> a day and keep him from losing more weight. I don't think he is

> digesting nuts. Help!! I always take things seriously and do things

> 100% but I wonder why the potato is the antichrist when the

oxypowder

> is actually shifting food through his bowel at last.

>

> ANY thoughts gratefully recieved.

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

>

> > 100% but I wonder why the potato is the antichrist when the

oxypowder

> is actually shifting food through his bowel at last.

>

> ANY thoughts gratefully recieved.

>

> Sue

>

Sue, There's a paper on Vitamin K being helpful or necessary while on

the SCD diet. I've not used the SCD so I'll place the pdf in the file

for you to graze.

[Guest guest]

Will he eat avocado? It's a good healthy fat and what helped me gain weight

back when I was so terribly thin. What about EFAs? Does he take zinc? As

others have mentioned, try enzymes.

S S

<p>Hi All,<br>

Well a week into the Oxypowder thing and I'm doing a lot of toilet <br>

cleaning after my son!! Fantastic product. It does what it says on the <br>

bottle. We are having serious concerns about 's allergic reactions <br>

which we suspect are food related. His entire body is erupting in <br>

ezcema and severe rashes.When I say severe- it is. Weeping, itchy sores <br>

and even my DAN! doc is concerned. Unfortunately Great Plains Lab are <br>

so slow in getting his food allergy combo result back that I do not <br>

know precisely what I need to remove.-the lab did not return my emails <br>

or even internal emails from the kind lady in front desk- shame on you <br>

GPL!- Doctors Data have got my business in future. I got their results <br>

no probs last week and even received hard copies in international mail <br>

before GPL have got them to me....<br>

<br>

The thing is this- He's been strict scd for 20 mths now. We saw great <br>

things at first but as soon as he started it so did the ezcema and it <br>

has continued. The past 2 mths though it is getting out of control. The <br>

past week we have been taking photos as it is so bad we need to record <br>

it or no one would take it seriously if it clears a bit.<br>

<br>

If we have to take out nuts/eggs for example his diet would be a <br>

nightmare to fill him as red meat clogs him up and is unhealthy , he <br>

cannot eat fish- pollution- and self limits to just 3 veg and they are <br>

pureed. He cannot eat many fruits and has candida so I am looking at <br>

potatoes if we have to remove other things and thinking seriously about <br>

reintroducing some other carbs. He is so skinny!!! Of course <br>

gluten/dairy etc is a big no, no. I cannot force soup down him 3 meals <br>

a day and keep him from losing more weight. I don't think he is <br>

digesting nuts. Help!! I always take things seriously and do things <br>

100% but I wonder why the potato is the antichrist when the oxypowder <br>

is actually shifting food through his bowel at last. <br>

<br>

ANY thoughts gratefully recieved.<br>

<br>

Sue<br>

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[Guest guest]

-Thanks and everyone else who has responded.

He balks at avocados (though they are so healty- actually his dad is

very allergic to them so maybe something in that)He takes Efas and

zinc and has had enzymes 5 yrs. At least we are doing a lot right!!!

He seems a lot better today since I pulled the nuts and eggs out of

his diet. Brighter eyed and a bit emotional. Actually I just found

his KM enzyme had rolled under the sofa and snapped at him how

important they are to take and he burst into tears.

Sue

-- In , " Shepard Salzer "

<_Shepard@...> wrote:

>

>

> Will he eat avocado? It's a good healthy fat and what helped me

gain weight back when I was so terribly thin. What about EFAs?

Does he take zinc? As others have mentioned, try enzymes.

> S S

>

>

>

> <p>Hi All,<br>

> Well a week into the Oxypowder thing and I'm doing a lot of toilet

<br>

> cleaning after my son!! Fantastic product. It does what it says on

the <br>

> bottle. We are having serious concerns about 's allergic

reactions <br>

> which we suspect are food related. His entire body is erupting in

<br>

> ezcema and severe rashes.When I say severe- it is. Weeping, itchy

sores <br>

> and even my DAN! doc is concerned. Unfortunately Great Plains Lab

are <br>

> so slow in getting his food allergy combo result back that I do

not <br>

> know precisely what I need to remove.-the lab did not return my

emails <br>

> or even internal emails from the kind lady in front desk- shame on

you <br>

> GPL!- Doctors Data have got my business in future. I got their

results <br>

> no probs last week and even received hard copies in international

mail <br>

> before GPL have got them to me....<br>

> <br>

> The thing is this- He's been strict scd for 20 mths now. We saw

great <br>

> things at first but as soon as he started it so did the ezcema and

it <br>

> has continued. The past 2 mths though it is getting out of

control. The <br>

> past week we have been taking photos as it is so bad we need to

record <br>

> it or no one would take it seriously if it clears a bit.<br>

> <br>

> If we have to take out nuts/eggs for example his diet would be a

<br>

> nightmare to fill him as red meat clogs him up and is unhealthy ,

he <br>

> cannot eat fish- pollution- and self limits to just 3 veg and they

are <br>

> pureed. He cannot eat many fruits and has candida so I am looking

at <br>

> potatoes if we have to remove other things and thinking seriously

about <br>

> reintroducing some other carbs. He is so skinny!!! Of course <br>

> gluten/dairy etc is a big no, no. I cannot force soup down him 3

meals <br>

> a day and keep him from losing more weight. I don't think he is

<br>

> digesting nuts. Help!! I always take things seriously and do

things <br>

> 100% but I wonder why the potato is the antichrist when the

oxypowder <br>

> is actually shifting food through his bowel at last. <br>

> <br>

> ANY thoughts gratefully recieved.<br>

> <br>

> Sue<br>

>

>

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>>We are having serious concerns about 's allergic reactions

> which we suspect are food related. His entire body is erupting in

> ezcema and severe rashes.When I say severe- it is. Weeping, itchy sores

> and even my DAN! doc is concerned.

> The thing is this- He's been strict scd for 20 mths now. We saw great

> things at first but as soon as he started it so did the ezcema and it

> has continued. The past 2 mths though it is getting out of control.

My son was never able to do SCD, because he did not tolerate anything

orange or green, even with enzymes. You might try enzymes tho, see if

that helps.

> If we have to take out nuts/eggs

Because egg yolk is orange, my son did not tolerate it.

Dana