Re: Mercury damage reversisble?

[Guest guest]

As long as we are able to pray, I believe in a complete cure. God raised

people from the dead ... much past the " curable stage " . But there is also some

medical information that may help with this question. It is available at

_www.drcarley.com_ (http://www.drcarley.com) .

In a message dated 10/22/2006 8:44:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

sheilayoung2004@... writes:

I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

this jades my view a bit but here goes.

I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise in

autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible for

a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely speculation,

but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to the

brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage of

kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be much

higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

I think there are probably critical windows of development in the

brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to have

somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be overcome

through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases. I

for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing, mercury

in the body can't be good and also, it might help my son learn

faster going forward.

Sheila

=======================================================

Statements posted on this list are for information only,

and should NOT be taken as medical advice. If you need

medical advice, you should seek it from those who are

authorized to give medical advice: doctors.

Post message:

Subscribe: -subscribe

Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe

Shortcut URL:

Answers to common questions:

/files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ

[Guest guest]

Comments interspersed.<br> S S<br><br><br> <br><br> <p>I

wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in <br><br>hopefully

a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated <br><br>on and off for

several years without noticeable benefits so maybe <br><br>this jades my view a

bit but here goes. <br><br><br>*What chelator? What route, dose, and dosing

schedule? How much does he weigh? What other interventions? How old? What

did the DDI hair elements test (with counting rules applied) show? I presume he

has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings and hasn't gotten any more new exposure

(i.e. flu shots, etc)<br><br><br><br>I think mercury damage is the major cause

in the dramatic rise in <br><br>autism. That being said, I don't think the

damage is reversible for <br><br>a good number of kids with autism. This is

just purely speculation, <br><br>but I think that if getting

rid of mercury after the damage to the <br><br>brain has been done was the

answer for a signficant percentage of <br><br>kids with autism, the number of

people doing chelation would be much <br><br>higher than it is now just by it

spreading via word of mouth. <br><br><br><br>I think there are probably

critical windows of development in the <br><br>brain that if they are disrupted

by mercury, you are going to have <br><br>somewhat permanent changes to the

brain that maybe can be overcome <br><br>through intensive therapy in some cases

but not is most cases. I <br><br>for one am going to continue chelating becaue

for one thing, mercury <br><br>in the body can't be good and also, it might help

my son learn <br><br>faster going forward.

_______________________________________________

Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

The most personalized portal on the Web!

[Guest guest]

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

The *only* thing chelation did for my kids was to allow them to

tolerate foods and supplements. It was the supplements which

recovered them. As chelation progressed, I saw benefits come and go,

but my #2 was still autistic.

> I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise in

> autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible for

> a good number of kids with autism.

For my kids, chelation did not reverse the damage. Supplements did.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I don't fully know the extent to which mercury induced damage is

reversible, but I think there are accompanying complications that

need to be addressed. For example, it appears that for many kids,

both the immune system and the endocrine systems take quite a hit.

Working to address those issues can make a significant difference

for lots of kids.

Anne

>

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

>

> I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise in

> autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible

for

> a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely

speculation,

> but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to the

> brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage of

> kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be

much

> higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

>

> I think there are probably critical windows of development in the

> brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to have

> somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be overcome

> through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases. I

> for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing,

mercury

> in the body can't be good and also, it might help my son learn

> faster going forward.

>

> Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years

How have you been chelating? Which chelators, dose, timing,

supplements and so on?

> without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

>

I've been chelating myself continuously with DMPS for over a year now,

with noticeable benefits, and I have been poisoned for most of my 50

years, so maybe my view is influenced by my own experience.

> I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise in

> autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible for

> a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely speculation,

> but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to the

> brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage of

> kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be much

> higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

>

The trouble is that if you ask a hundred people how to chelate an

autistic child you will get a hundred different answers. Of all of

those answers maybe only one or two (just speculating) will be close

to the optimal answer for the child. There is so much contradictory

and conflicting " word of mouth " talk going on out there that it must

make a parent's head spin. Parents are already feeling the pressure

of time and pressure from the responsibilities of caring for and

providing for their young families. It must be really difficult for

them to cut through all of the chelation talk background noice to

figure out how to chelate properly. If they don't chelate properly

the metals will do more damage and make healing and recovery more

difficult. Many get side tracked with harmful interventions. And

many simply give up long before the mercury has been removed.

> I think there are probably critical windows of development in the

> brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to have

> somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be overcome

> through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases. I

> for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing, mercury

> in the body can't be good

You have hit on one of the big reasons why I am going to keep

chelating for as long as it takes. I am willing to admit that *maybe

some of the damage mercury has done to me *might be permanent seeing

as my major exposure to mercury was 30-40 years ago. But, it could be

a lot worse. I am still really very functional. I want to keep

myself active and functional. I don't want to lose mobility or any

more brain function.

Best

J

and also, it might help my son learn

> faster going forward.

>

> Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

First, I am sorry you aren't seeing results with chelation. I am

sure it can be tough to read about other's improvements and complete

recoveries from doing what you have been doing for several years.

I believe that many children's Autism can be reversed. I also

believe if my son loses his Autism diagnosis is doesn't necessarily

mean that he will be 'neurotypical'. Sadly, there has to be some

irreversible damage out there (or in there, I guess) due to the

toxic exposure. Whether he will struggle with learning

difficulties, fine motor skill deficits, and/or language processing

delays for the rest of his life is still undecided. I DO believe he

will improve enough to lose the Autism diagnosis, though.

I just hope common sense (and good research) prevails soon to

finally legitimize chelation as a valid way to treat Autism and

other disabilities. The tide is turning on the mercury-autism link.

Take care,

Pam

>

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

>

> I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise in

> autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible

for

> a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely

speculation,

> but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to the

> brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage of

> kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be

much

> higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

>

> I think there are probably critical windows of development in the

> brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to have

> somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be overcome

> through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases. I

> for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing,

mercury

> in the body can't be good and also, it might help my son learn

> faster going forward.

>

> Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

Pam,

Need to comment on:

" Sadly, there has to be some irreversible damage out there (or in there, I

guess) due to the toxic exposure. "

I don't believe in the " has to " part -- for your child or anyone's child. As

you noted, there are plenty of recovery stories out there.

Suggest we focus on the 3 Ps -- Persistance, Patience & Prayer.

These 3 togethor are unbreakable.

noaholiviaian <phaselow@...> wrote:

Sheila,

First, I am sorry you aren't seeing results with chelation. I am

sure it can be tough to read about other's improvements and complete

recoveries from doing what you have been doing for several years.

I believe that many children's Autism can be reversed. I also

believe if my son loses his Autism diagnosis is doesn't necessarily

mean that he will be 'neurotypical'. Sadly, there has to be some

irreversible damage out there (or in there, I guess) due to the

toxic exposure. Whether he will struggle with learning

difficulties, fine motor skill deficits, and/or language processing

delays for the rest of his life is still undecided. I DO believe he

will improve enough to lose the Autism diagnosis, though.

I just hope common sense (and good research) prevails soon to

finally legitimize chelation as a valid way to treat Autism and

other disabilities. The tide is turning on the mercury-autism link.

Take care,

Pam

>

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

>

> I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise in

> autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible

for

> a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely

speculation,

> but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to the

> brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage of

> kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be

much

> higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

>

> I think there are probably critical windows of development in the

> brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to have

> somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be overcome

> through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases. I

> for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing,

mercury

> in the body can't be good and also, it might help my son learn

> faster going forward.

>

> Sheila

>

---------------------------------

Get your email and more, right on the new .com

[Guest guest]

I sure hope so.

Pam

> >

> > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

chelated

> > on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so

maybe

> > this jades my view a bit but here goes.

> >

> > I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise

in

> > autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible

> for

> > a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely

> speculation,

> > but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to

the

> > brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage

of

> > kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be

> much

> > higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

> >

> > I think there are probably critical windows of development in

the

> > brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to

have

> > somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be

overcome

> > through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases. I

> > for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing,

> mercury

> > in the body can't be good and also, it might help my son learn

> > faster going forward.

> >

> > Sheila

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your email and more, right on the new .com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Dana, Just removing mercury does not heal the brain,

you need supplements.

And I do agree thier is a critical window of brain development. I

pretty much ask Dr Deth the same question. But I think and hope

the " mad " scientist who so easily poisoned our kids, can figure out

a way to reverse the damage.

Here is Dr Deth's reply.

Remember Mercury(Thimerosal) Intfereres with DNA Methylation.

Clearly an abnormality

involving DNA methylation could alter the normal pathway of

development.

Changes in methylation patterns that occur during pregnancy can

typically

be permanent, since they result from the normal mechanism that nature

relies upon to built an organism. Therefore prenatal mercury

exposures are

much more powerful than postnatal, although certainly both periods

are

significant. Alot depends upon what developmental events are occuring

during the period of acute exposure.

Dont give up hope.

Donna

>

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Having spent years investigating for my brain injured niece I think that

Hyperbaric oxygen is the best treatment after getting rid of the mercury. Last

December the U of Penn. published that with HBOT , adult stem cell proliferation

increases by an average of 8 times. This is only part of the healing benefit. I

am convinced enough that I bought a chamber. I don't use it as a business but

I've seen great things happen to injured brains.

Blessings

Lee

Donna <donna.arnold@...> wrote:

I agree with Dana, Just removing mercury does not heal the brain,

you need supplements.

And I do agree thier is a critical window of brain development. I

pretty much ask Dr Deth the same question. But I think and hope

the " mad " scientist who so easily poisoned our kids, can figure out

a way to reverse the damage.

Here is Dr Deth's reply.

Remember Mercury(Thimerosal) Intfereres with DNA Methylation.

Clearly an abnormality

involving DNA methylation could alter the normal pathway of

development.

Changes in methylation patterns that occur during pregnancy can

typically

be permanent, since they result from the normal mechanism that nature

relies upon to built an organism. Therefore prenatal mercury

exposures are

much more powerful than postnatal, although certainly both periods

are

significant. Alot depends upon what developmental events are occuring

during the period of acute exposure.

Dont give up hope.

Donna

>

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

>

>

---------------------------------

Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+

countries) for 2¢/min or less.

[Guest guest]

Along with the Hbot I think the transcranial magentic stimulation

rTMS is going to show promise.

> >

> > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

chelated

> > on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so

maybe

> > this jades my view a bit but here goes.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and

30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We have been chelating with DMSA and ALA (25mg each every 3-4 hours)

3 days on 11 off. Support supplements that we use during the 3 day

on period are mixed carotenoids (-beta 25,000 IU, -alpha 5000 IU

1/day), vit c (500mg am & pm), B-complex am & pm, and vit E 400 IU).

If anyone can suggest any adjustment to our routine, it will be

greatly appreciated. I agree that with so many different chelation

routines being used that it is difficult to draw conclusions.

Thanks.

Sheila

> >

> > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

chelated

> > on and off for several years

>

>

>

>

>

> How have you been chelating? Which chelators, dose, timing,

> supplements and so on?

>

>

>

> > without noticeable benefits so maybe

> > this jades my view a bit but here goes.

> >

>

>

>

> I've been chelating myself continuously with DMPS for over a year

now,

> with noticeable benefits, and I have been poisoned for most of my

50

> years, so maybe my view is influenced by my own experience.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise

in

> > autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible

for

> > a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely

speculation,

>

>

> > but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to

the

> > brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage

of

> > kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be

much

> > higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

> >

>

>

>

>

> The trouble is that if you ask a hundred people how to chelate an

> autistic child you will get a hundred different answers. Of all of

> those answers maybe only one or two (just speculating) will be

close

> to the optimal answer for the child. There is so much

contradictory

> and conflicting " word of mouth " talk going on out there that it

must

> make a parent's head spin. Parents are already feeling the

pressure

> of time and pressure from the responsibilities of caring for and

> providing for their young families. It must be really difficult

for

> them to cut through all of the chelation talk background noice to

> figure out how to chelate properly. If they don't chelate properly

> the metals will do more damage and make healing and recovery more

> difficult. Many get side tracked with harmful interventions. And

> many simply give up long before the mercury has been removed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I think there are probably critical windows of development in

the

> > brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to

have

> > somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be

overcome

> > through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases.

I

> > for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing,

mercury

> > in the body can't be good

>

>

>

>

> You have hit on one of the big reasons why I am going to keep

> chelating for as long as it takes. I am willing to admit that

*maybe

> some of the damage mercury has done to me *might be permanent

seeing

> as my major exposure to mercury was 30-40 years ago. But, it

could be

> a lot worse. I am still really very functional. I want to keep

> myself active and functional. I don't want to lose mobility or any

> more brain function.

>

> Best

>

> J

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> and also, it might help my son learn

> > faster going forward.

> >

> > Sheila

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is intersting to read about the Minamata Bay exposure and some of

the followup studies done on the people that were poisoned, adults

and childen. Time alone does NOT help with recovery. It seems that

the symptom patterns only worsen. That is one thing that keeps me

chelating our 21 year old. A recent urine porphyrins test on her came

back positive for heavy metals including mercury, arsenic, and lead.

A hair test is still pending. We've not ever seen lead or mercury

exiting on a hair test. Arsenic has gone from moderately high to low

levels on past hair tests.

> > >

> > > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> > > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

> chelated

> > > on and off for several years

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > How have you been chelating? Which chelators, dose, timing,

> > supplements and so on?

> >

> >

>

> >

> > > without noticeable benefits so maybe

> > > this jades my view a bit but here goes.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > I've been chelating myself continuously with DMPS for over a year

> now,

> > with noticeable benefits, and I have been poisoned for most of my

> 50

> > years, so maybe my view is influenced by my own experience.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise

> in

> > > autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is

reversible

> for

> > > a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely

> speculation,

> >

> >

> > > but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to

> the

> > > brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage

> of

> > > kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be

> much

> > > higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The trouble is that if you ask a hundred people how to chelate an

> > autistic child you will get a hundred different answers. Of all

of

> > those answers maybe only one or two (just speculating) will be

> close

> > to the optimal answer for the child. There is so much

> contradictory

> > and conflicting " word of mouth " talk going on out there that it

> must

> > make a parent's head spin. Parents are already feeling the

> pressure

> > of time and pressure from the responsibilities of caring for and

> > providing for their young families. It must be really difficult

> for

> > them to cut through all of the chelation talk background noice to

> > figure out how to chelate properly. If they don't chelate

properly

> > the metals will do more damage and make healing and recovery more

> > difficult. Many get side tracked with harmful interventions. And

> > many simply give up long before the mercury has been removed.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > I think there are probably critical windows of development in

> the

> > > brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to

> have

> > > somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be

> overcome

> > > through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases.

> I

> > > for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing,

> mercury

> > > in the body can't be good

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > You have hit on one of the big reasons why I am going to keep

> > chelating for as long as it takes. I am willing to admit that

> *maybe

> > some of the damage mercury has done to me *might be permanent

> seeing

> > as my major exposure to mercury was 30-40 years ago. But, it

> could be

> > a lot worse. I am still really very functional. I want to keep

> > myself active and functional. I don't want to lose mobility or

any

> > more brain function.

> >

> > Best

> >

> > J

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > and also, it might help my son learn

> > > faster going forward.

> > >

> > > Sheila

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> > > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

> chelated

> > > on and off for several years

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the help and I have put some answers/comments below.

Sheila

> > > >

> > > > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate

in

> > > > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

> > chelated

> > > > on and off for several years

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > > >

> > > > > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate

> in

> > > > > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

> > > chelated

> > > > > on and off for several years

> > > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> I agree with Dana, Just removing mercury does not heal the brain,

I know people like gloom and doom, but my experience has been otherwise. If you

do it

right, in most cases it is all you need to do. If you do it wrong it makes

everything else

less effective anyway.

> you need supplements.

They are helpful, but few are essential. They may speed up recovery, suppress

symptoms

and permit more rapid progress, but all you really NEED is some basic

antioxidants and

zinc, maybe magnesium depending on the person.

> And I do agree thier is a critical window of brain development.

If they missed developmental milestones, then simple interventions like vision

therapy, the

listening program, and physical therapy will quickly make up for that once they

are

detoxed. All the theorizing about gloom, doom, DNA methylation, etc. is by

people

without adequate experience (and not doing the right things to get it) to know

what has

happened to children who did detox adequately.

> >

> > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> > on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> > this jades my view a bit but here goes.

> >

> >

>

Not all vaccine damaged children are toxic. About 75% are. These ones respond

very

nicely to chelation, the others do not respond at all.

You have had a more than adequate trial of chelation, perhaps it is time to try

OTHER

things directed at OTHER issues? I'm more than happy to discuss anything I can

think of if

you'd be so kind as to discuss what is up with your kid or refer to prior posts

by number.

Andy

[Guest guest]

> The *only* thing chelation did for my kids was to allow them to

> tolerate foods and supplements. It was the supplements which

> recovered them. As chelation progressed, I saw benefits come and go,

> but my #2 was still autistic.

If I remember properly, Dana chelated every 8 hours with DMSA and ALA.

Andy

[Guest guest]

I think it was every 8 hours with just ALA.

Anne

>

> > The *only* thing chelation did for my kids was to allow them to

> > tolerate foods and supplements. It was the supplements which

> > recovered them. As chelation progressed, I saw benefits come and

go,

> > but my #2 was still autistic.

>

> If I remember properly, Dana chelated every 8 hours with DMSA and ALA.

>

> Andy

>

[Guest guest]

What chelators and protocol have you used? Have you treated for

yeast, viruses, gut damage? All of which are connected and part of

mercury damage.

From a scientific point, mercury can cause permanant damage in a

developing brain by altering the neuron connection paths. But that

does not mean new paths cannot be created..this is where the therapy

comes in.

The reason this is not a well know, world renouned cure all spread

around in every news paper...one reason! Big Pharmaceutical. They

pay to hush any treatment they can't make a profit from. Or any

treatment that might indicate them as a cause for the ailments. If

it were common knowledge that vaccines contain mercury and cause

damage or poisoing...we are talking huge lawsuits. Major chaos..etc.

And people in high places have money to hush the unpleasant truths.

Many of our own government officials also sit on the boards of our

largest drug companies.

I have mercury poisoning, as does my 11 year old. I have seen things

improve, get better, and go away with chelation. While this may not

be possible for everyone, usually there are other problems that

originally stemed from mercury that need treatment. Such as viruses.

Vaccinated kids have viral issues..no doubt there. The human body is

usually introduced to a virus through breathing, skin contact or

taste...which has guards to protect the body...to break it down some

before it get to the blood, where the immune system can fight it.

This is not the case with injection. Not to mention the combination

of toxin in a vaccine. These also cause other damage.

I read Andy's reply to this, and I do hope he can help guide you to

some things that will help your son.

Maybe there is more than just mercury, and sometimes the damage is

too much. Usually, one can get well or improve with the removal of

mercury, if mercury is the problem. There are minor number of

autistic kids who are not mercury toxic. I send good wishes your

way and hope you find help, and that your son can get better.

>

> I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate in

> hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have chelated

> on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so maybe

> this jades my view a bit but here goes.

>

> I think mercury damage is the major cause in the dramatic rise in

> autism. That being said, I don't think the damage is reversible

for

> a good number of kids with autism. This is just purely

speculation,

> but I think that if getting rid of mercury after the damage to the

> brain has been done was the answer for a signficant percentage of

> kids with autism, the number of people doing chelation would be

much

> higher than it is now just by it spreading via word of mouth.

>

> I think there are probably critical windows of development in the

> brain that if they are disrupted by mercury, you are going to have

> somewhat permanent changes to the brain that maybe can be overcome

> through intensive therapy in some cases but not is most cases. I

> for one am going to continue chelating becaue for one thing,

mercury

> in the body can't be good and also, it might help my son learn

> faster going forward.

>

> Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

Just ALA.

S S

<p>> The *only* thing chelation did for my kids was to allow them

to<br>

> tolerate foods and supplements. It was the supplements which<br>

> recovered them. As chelation progressed, I saw benefits come and go,<br>

> but my #2 was still autistic.<br>

<br>

If I remember properly, Dana chelated every 8 hours with DMSA and ALA.<br>

<br>

Andy<br>

_______________________________________________

Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

The most personalized portal on the Web!

[Guest guest]

> If I remember properly, Dana chelated every 8 hours with DMSA and ALA.

> Andy

ALA 3x per day. No DMSA.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Andy,

Thanks for the offer to help and I will have posted below a summary

of all we have tested for a tried. It is hard to post everything

since there have been so many tests.

My son is moderately affected by his autism and has shown moderately

abnormal activity on his EEG in the left temporal lobe (episodes of

paroxysmal left temporal rhythmic 3 htz sharp activity and sharp and

slow activity). To date my son has had the following tested in the

metabolic/genetic area:

Fragile X - negative

Blood Chromosome Analysis - normal

PKU - negative

T4- negative

Galactosemia - negative

Maple Syrup - negative

Biotinidase - negative

Hemoglobinopathy - negative

CAH- negative

Pyruvic acid = 0.11 H (0.03-0.08)

Lactic acid = 1.2 (0.5 - 2.2)

Urinalysis - normal

Uric Acid Urine (spot test) = 20.5 mg/dl

24 Urine Uric Acid 369 mg/Collection (250-750) * Dr. Theodore

Page said that my son's weight adjusted value 369mg/23kg= 16 mg/kg

was 2 standard deviations above the mean of 8 mg/kg/day and we did an

extended trial of oral uridine and ribose with no noticeable results.

Acylcarnitines - all in reference ranges

Inborn Errors of Metabolism- all negative

Fatty Acid Profile - Peroxisomal values out of range

a-Linolenic Acid c18:3x3 171 (20-120)

Vaccenic Acid c18:1x7 150 (320-900)

Interpretation = Essentially normal comprehensive fatty acid

profile

Carbohydrate Deficient Transferrin- normal result

7- Dehydrocholesterol - normal result

Metabolic screen - urine and plasma amino acids from Tulane -

plasma - normal pattern for age

urine - ABNORMAL - low values for most of the amino acids

Phenylalanine - normal

24 hour Urine Calcium - ABNORMAL - 10 mg/Collection (50 - 250)

Free thryoxine - 1.2 (0.8-1.8)

TSH - 1.74 (0.5-5.2)

Triiodothyronine 124 ng (94-241)

Purine and Pyrimidine Panel - all well within range

I have a 2 " binder filled with many tests from several DAN doctors

that my son has been to. In my opinion, the testing from the DAN

doctors did not turn up anything useful since each DAN doctor we

went to tended to see things through the prism of how they viewed

the cause of autism (ie. chemicals, allergies, immune dysfuntion,

etc.) They ordered testing in the areas they focused on and we did

many therapies that did not make any significant differences. A

list of theapies tried are: GFCF diet - stil continuing, Fiengold

diet, nystating for yeast overgrowth, IVIG, secretin, naltraxone,

prozac, neurontin, antibiotics for Lymes, sauna detoxification and

chelation with DMSA/ALS

Observations we have made are that my son gets very hyper on fish

oils. My son has cycling behaviors of tantrums/meltdowns that have

been helped by a low dose of Depakote which has allowed us to give

him 2 capsules per day of ProEFA which seems to help some with his

speech production. Lately we have given him vit E @ 800IU/day and

this has also helped with is speech production. I know the above

list of DAN tests is not very complete but any advice will be

appreciated.

Sheila

>

> > I agree with Dana, Just removing mercury does not heal the

brain,

>

> I know people like gloom and doom, but my experience has been

otherwise. If you do it

> right, in most cases it is all you need to do. If you do it wrong

it makes everything else

> less effective anyway.

>

> > you need supplements.

>

> They are helpful, but few are essential. They may speed up

recovery, suppress symptoms

> and permit more rapid progress, but all you really NEED is some

basic antioxidants and

> zinc, maybe magnesium depending on the person.

>

> > And I do agree thier is a critical window of brain development.

>

> If they missed developmental milestones, then simple interventions

like vision therapy, the

> listening program, and physical therapy will quickly make up for

that once they are

> detoxed. All the theorizing about gloom, doom, DNA methylation,

etc. is by people

> without adequate experience (and not doing the right things to get

it) to know what has

> happened to children who did detox adequately.

>

> > >

> > > I wanted to post about mercury damage to stir up some debate

in

> > > hopefully a positive way. I have an autisic son and have

chelated

> > > on and off for several years without noticeable benefits so

maybe

> > > this jades my view a bit but here goes.

> > >

> > >

> >

> Not all vaccine damaged children are toxic. About 75% are. These

ones respond very

> nicely to chelation, the others do not respond at all.

>

> You have had a more than adequate trial of chelation, perhaps it

is time to try OTHER

> things directed at OTHER issues? I'm more than happy to discuss

anything I can think of if

> you'd be so kind as to discuss what is up with your kid or refer

to prior posts by number.

>

> Andy

>