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In a message dated 18/06/2006 21:13:02 GMT Standard Time, m.collins9@... writes:

Mandi,

Were they pustules or did they have watery stuff inside? - if the latter this is more like chicken pox. Interesting everything's on one side of the body. - did anything cross the midline? I could be wrong but I think shingles usually doesn't cross the midline?

Margaret

Yes, this is what I was thinking too. I was wondering if he had even one pustule anywhere else on his body? But aren't shingles more clustered? There was a 6 year old at a playgroup recently with shingles and they didn't cross the midline and were quite clustered. It looks to me like chicken pox lite!!

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Were they pustules or did they have watery stuff inside? - if the latter this is more like chicken pox. Interesting everything's on one side of the body. - did anything cross the midline? I could be wrong but I think shingles usually doesn't cross the midline?

>>fluid filled not pus, did cross the midline but not by much. Doesn't shingles hurt like hell?

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In a message dated 18/06/2006 21:52:20 GMT Daylight Time, m.collins9@... writes:

here's a link to a BUPA factsheet which shows zones where shingles tend to cluster http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/shingles.html .

Of course it's the chicken pox virus that also causes shingles.

No I wasn't thinking he had shingles but perhaps the virus coming out might cluster in a similar way. Sounds very interesting. (Um. I must ask the obvious - it couldn't have been a heat rash or local contact dermatitis?)

>>>Ok I will look at pictures, no its easn;t heat rash - he has had that before on upper chest and no not contact dermatitis either - hardly anythign ever in contact with it - he only wears pants at home - first time ever he has a white bum :)

(meaning in past constant fight to get him even to keep them on - now he puts them on himself in morning and keeps them on - this is huge BTW)

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Sure does look a lot like chicken Pox to me. IN fact it looks EXACTLY like

Chicken Pox. Go figure!?

Photo's of Sam's Rash - ? Pox coming out ?

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Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two products that

may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox coming out?

(Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration then faded

out as quick as it appeared.

Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen anything like

this.

He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

TIA of you looking :)

Mandi in UK

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> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

coming out?

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> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

I've never seen chicken pox so I can't say, but something's sure

coming out! What's the Russian stuff? (link not working)

More details on how great he's doing, please!

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Mandi,

Were they pustules or did they have watery stuff inside? - if the latter this is more like chicken pox. Interesting everything's on one side of the body. - did anything cross the midline? I could be wrong but I think shingles usually doesn't cross the midline?

Margaret

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_http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_ (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm) Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two products that may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox coming out?(Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration then faded out as quick as it appeared.Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen anything like this.He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTWTIA of you looking :)Mandi in UK

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here's a link to a BUPA factsheet which shows zones where shingles tend to cluster http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/shingles.html .

Of course it's the chicken pox virus that also causes shingles.

No I wasn't thinking he had shingles but perhaps the virus coming out might cluster in a similar way. Sounds very interesting. (Um. I must ask the obvious - it couldn't have been a heat rash or local contact dermatitis?)

Margaret

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In a message dated 18/06/2006 21:13:01 GMT Daylight Time, m.collins9@... writes:

Were they pustules or did they have watery stuff inside? - if the latter this is more like chicken pox. Interesting everything's on one side of the body. - did anything cross the midline? I could be wrong but I think shingles usually doesn't cross the midline?

>>fluid filled not pus, did cross the midline but not by much. Doesn't shingles hurt like hell?

Mandi x

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Mandi,

This is interesting because the rash I've been battling on my son's thighs looks

very much like this! He's been doing the Virastop/OLE combo.

Barb

[ ] Photo's of Sam's Rash - ? Pox coming out ?

_http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

(http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm)

Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two products that

may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox coming out?

(Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration then faded

out as quick as it appeared.

Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen anything like

this.

He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

TIA of you looking :)

Mandi in UK

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Dear Mandi,

Sam's rash looks very much like one of my son's rashes when we were

doing the viral protocol (VS, OLE, Sambucol, Lauricidin). My son's

problems are also connected to the chicken pox in some way I think.

This type of rash was the first kind that we got. Mostly on the

face, but then one or two on the arms as well. Show up suddenly,

disappear suddenly too. Pustules would break generally a few hours

after they appeared. Didn't seem to bother my son at all.

After this type of rash for almost 4 weeks or so (off and on,

depending on when we increased the antivirals), we moved onto a more

dense, flat rash. Always on the neck. This one was itchy. He

would tear at it.

We also had something around my son's mouth. I was just looking at

the photos again and this was by far the worst part of the viral

protocol. His lips would bleed even when I touched them with a very

soft, wet cloth. It was horrible. I'm not sure if this rash was a

result of the VS or not (my gut was blaming the VS, but I've no idea

really).

I'd be very interested in knowing whether your Sam gets the other

two kind of rashes we experienced.

Dr. Jim on the AM list is collecting rash pics. He would be

interested in yours, I'm sure.

So happy to hear how well Sam's doing :-)

Anita

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>

> In a message dated 18/06/2006 19:06:29 GMT Daylight Time,

Mum231ASD@...

> writes:

>

>

>

> __http://www.mandimarhttp://www.mandihttp_

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_)

> (_http://www.mandimarhttp://www.mandihtt_

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm) )

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration

then faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration

then faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

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I apologize that I have not been following the whole post, but this

looks like chicken pox. I had it when I was 17. And certainly sounds

like it with the 36 hours.

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration

then faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

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>

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In a message dated 19/06/2006 11:19:53 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

It certainly looks like a viral rash to me and from what I can see does look chicken pox like - this would be consistent with your experience of revisiting past illnesses and pains wouldn't it?

>>>Yep, more pictures I look at the more convinved I am. Going to forward to Dr Popplewhite on A-M see what he has to say. I said pustules but they wern;t pus - I should have said blisters - fluid filled - not all of them , the ones that were seemed to be in the middle area of the overall rash. BTW he is past the hands on ears thing now, now we are 'revisting' eating cardboard sigh....................as as long as dont; have to 'retrace' the six months of smearing poop I can live with the other LOL

Have been applying 2 drops per day to Jacks verruca for past 10 days and does appear to have reduced a little - will keep you posted.

>>>So hard to get it to stay on their feet - do you put a plaster on after? I must experiment on my wart - did not go away with 18+ Virastop per day for 6 weeks but Sams did on only 5-7 caps. So this is good one to test one - off to play now, remind me later

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In a message dated 19/06/2006 11:19:53 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

It certainly looks like a viral rash to me and from what I can see does look chicken pox like - this would be consistent with your experience of revisiting past illnesses and pains wouldn't it?

>>>Yep, more pictures I look at the more convinved I am. Going to forward to Dr Popplewhite on A-M see what he has to say. I said pustules but they wern;t pus - I should have said blisters - fluid filled - not all of them , the ones that were seemed to be in the middle area of the overall rash. BTW he is past the hands on ears thing now, now we are 'revisting' eating cardboard sigh....................as as long as dont; have to 'retrace' the six months of smearing poop I can live with the other LOL

Have been applying 2 drops per day to Jacks verruca for past 10 days and does appear to have reduced a little - will keep you posted.

>>>So hard to get it to stay on their feet - do you put a plaster on after? I must experiment on my wart - did not go away with 18+ Virastop per day for 6 weeks but Sams did on only 5-7 caps. So this is good one to test one - off to play now, remind me later

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In a message dated 19/06/2006 11:19:53 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

It certainly looks like a viral rash to me and from what I can see does look chicken pox like - this would be consistent with your experience of revisiting past illnesses and pains wouldn't it?

>>>Yep, more pictures I look at the more convinved I am. Going to forward to Dr Popplewhite on A-M see what he has to say. I said pustules but they wern;t pus - I should have said blisters - fluid filled - not all of them , the ones that were seemed to be in the middle area of the overall rash. BTW he is past the hands on ears thing now, now we are 'revisting' eating cardboard sigh....................as as long as dont; have to 'retrace' the six months of smearing poop I can live with the other LOL

Have been applying 2 drops per day to Jacks verruca for past 10 days and does appear to have reduced a little - will keep you posted.

>>>So hard to get it to stay on their feet - do you put a plaster on after? I must experiment on my wart - did not go away with 18+ Virastop per day for 6 weeks but Sams did on only 5-7 caps. So this is good one to test one - off to play now, remind me later

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Mum231ASD@... wrote:

> In a message dated 18/06/2006 19:06:29 GMT Daylight Time,

> Mum231ASD@... writes:

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_>

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm>)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

> products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

> coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration

> then faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

> anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject:

> [ ] Photo's of Sam's Rash - ? Pox coming out ?

> From:

> Mum231ASD@...

> Date:

> Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:04:57 EDT

> To:

> autism-chelation-uk , ,

>

>

> To:

> autism-chelation-uk , ,

>

> CC:

> CK2Mail@...

>

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_>

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm>)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

> products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration then

> faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

> anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

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Mum231ASD@... wrote:

> In a message dated 18/06/2006 19:06:29 GMT Daylight Time,

> Mum231ASD@... writes:

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_>

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm>)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

> products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

> coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration

> then faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

> anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject:

> [ ] Photo's of Sam's Rash - ? Pox coming out ?

> From:

> Mum231ASD@...

> Date:

> Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:04:57 EDT

> To:

> autism-chelation-uk , ,

>

>

> To:

> autism-chelation-uk , ,

>

> CC:

> CK2Mail@...

>

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_>

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm>)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

> products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration then

> faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

> anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

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Mum231ASD@... wrote:

> In a message dated 18/06/2006 19:06:29 GMT Daylight Time,

> Mum231ASD@... writes:

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_>

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm>)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

> products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

> coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration

> then faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

> anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Subject:

> [ ] Photo's of Sam's Rash - ? Pox coming out ?

> From:

> Mum231ASD@...

> Date:

> Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:04:57 EDT

> To:

> autism-chelation-uk , ,

>

>

> To:

> autism-chelation-uk , ,

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> CC:

> CK2Mail@...

>

>

> _http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm_>

> (http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm

> <http://www.mandimart.com/samphotos.htm>)

>

> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

> products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox coming out?

>

> (Waiora NCD & Allergy Research Group Russian Immune GI)

>

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration then

> faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

>

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

> anything like

> this.

>

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

>

> TIA of you looking :)

>

> Mandi in UK

>

>

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mandi, Had a look in a book I have here. Check out also Molluscum ( also viral) , specially where there is no obvious fever. The pustules look similar to chicken pox IMO.

Re: Photo's of Sam's Rash - ? Pox coming out ?

In a message dated 19/06/2006 11:19:53 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

It certainly looks like a viral rash to me and from what I can see does look chicken pox like - this would be consistent with your experience of revisiting past illnesses and pains wouldn't it?

>>>Yep, more pictures I look at the more convinved I am. Going to forward to Dr Popplewhite on A-M see what he has to say. I said pustules but they wern;t pus - I should have said blisters - fluid filled - not all of them , the ones that were seemed to be in the middle area of the overall rash. BTW he is past the hands on ears thing now, now we are 'revisting' eating cardboard sigh....................as as long as dont; have to 'retrace' the six months of smearing poop I can live with the other LOL

Have been applying 2 drops per day to Jacks verruca for past 10 days and does appear to have reduced a little - will keep you posted.

>>>So hard to get it to stay on their feet - do you put a plaster on after? I must experiment on my wart - did not go away with 18+ Virastop per day for 6 weeks but Sams did on only 5-7 caps. So this is good one to test one - off to play now, remind me later

Mandi x

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mandi, Had a look in a book I have here. Check out also Molluscum ( also viral) , specially where there is no obvious fever. The pustules look similar to chicken pox IMO.

Re: Photo's of Sam's Rash - ? Pox coming out ?

In a message dated 19/06/2006 11:19:53 GMT Daylight Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

It certainly looks like a viral rash to me and from what I can see does look chicken pox like - this would be consistent with your experience of revisiting past illnesses and pains wouldn't it?

>>>Yep, more pictures I look at the more convinved I am. Going to forward to Dr Popplewhite on A-M see what he has to say. I said pustules but they wern;t pus - I should have said blisters - fluid filled - not all of them , the ones that were seemed to be in the middle area of the overall rash. BTW he is past the hands on ears thing now, now we are 'revisting' eating cardboard sigh....................as as long as dont; have to 'retrace' the six months of smearing poop I can live with the other LOL

Have been applying 2 drops per day to Jacks verruca for past 10 days and does appear to have reduced a little - will keep you posted.

>>>So hard to get it to stay on their feet - do you put a plaster on after? I must experiment on my wart - did not go away with 18+ Virastop per day for 6 weeks but Sams did on only 5-7 caps. So this is good one to test one - off to play now, remind me later

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> Do you think this rash which has appeared (with the use of two

products that

> may have positive effects on immune system) is the chicken pox

coming out?

My son never had chicken pox or the vaccine, and this is what his rash

looked like as viruses were leaving his body. The rash started on his

arms and belly, migrated to legs, then migrated to his back. It

lasted much longer than 36 hours, altho each individual bump did last

about that long. The entire rash process lasted about a month the

first time, and each subsequent time was a shorter duration.

> He has not been unwell or itchy, some pustules, 36 hour duration

then faded

> out as quick as it appeared.

My son's rash was mildly itchy.

> Presviously used high dose colostrum and Virastop but not seen

anything like

> this.

Virastop and colostrum alone did not do this for my son, but OLE did,

and OLE plus Virastop did also.

> He is doing the best he has ever since regression BTW

Yep, anti-virals were wonderful for my son also.

Dana

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In a message dated 20/06/2006 14:59:18 GMT Daylight Time,

josie.nelson@... writes:

Sure does look a lot like chicken Pox to me. IN fact it looks EXACTLY like

Chicken Pox. Go figure!?

>>Yep, I'm convinced too after the great feedback I had. Chicken pox doesn;t

appear so suddenly and disppear without a single trace after 36 hours.

He is doing good :) He is doing very good :) NCD & Russian Choice GI are

stayers here :)

Mandi in UK

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