Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Please tell me what anti virals you used? You can reply to me privately if you like Nalini [ ] Re: I have autism and I'm normal -- AUTISM and Mercury poisoning >> My son made a ton of progress on anti-virals. I wish I had started >> them before the end of chelation, instead of *at* the end of > chelation. > > I just want to echo this statement. I too wish I'd started anti- > virals in the begining. My ds also made a ton of progress (mainly > social) on anti-virals. > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 which anti virals are you refering to if I may ask for my son, he is 4 hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote: > My son made a ton of progress on anti-virals. I wish I had started > them before the end of chelation, instead of *at* the end of chelation. I just want to echo this statement. I too wish I'd started anti- virals in the begining. My ds also made a ton of progress (mainly social) on anti-virals. --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 > which anti virals are you refering to if I may ask for my son, he is 4 > > hanjkyla <kyleac@...> wrote: > My son made a ton of progress on anti-virals. I wish I had started > > them before the end of chelation, instead of *at* the end of > chelation. > > I just want to echo this statement. I too wish I'd started anti- > virals in the begining. My ds also made a ton of progress (mainly > social) on anti-virals. > > We used virastop. I also used mostly OLE but about once a month for a week I'd swap out the OLE for astragalus or Echinacea/goldenseal. In addition I gave colostrum, vit. C, biotin & probiotic for yeast, vit A, & lysine as needed for mouth sores. He was also taking magnesium and Nordic naturals fish oil (not as anti-virals). We added lauricidin towards the end as well. I followed the VS trial that DeFelice has posted http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm We started with 1VS and worked up to 30VS. We started with 1 OLE and worked up to 6 OLE a day. Our son is 11yrs old and 113lbs but you don't really go by weight for the VS anyway. I recommend going very slowly. The reactions can be intense. Also have a good yeast protocol in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 I am new to this group and got some great responses the last few days. My son hasn't been formally diagnosed and we are making our 1st trip to the DAN dr in August. I had someone respond to me on another support group with the following: I'm glad to hear you're addressing biological assaults of related conditions (co-morbid) such as Celiac and Sensory Integration Disorder. However you've not told me if you're addressing the core symptoms of Autism, generally core issues of AU, even with the highest functioning individuals is information processing and social relations with peers. What does she mean by information processing and social relations with peers? I don't want someone giving me advice that is AGAINST homeschooling my son. He is on the high functioning end for sure and this is what I want for our family. Thanks! Jana danasview <danasview@...> wrote: > > Dana, > I am happy to hear you are homeschooling your son:) The reason I say > this is many parents I know who are making the most progress are > pulling their kids out of school and realize that just being a 'mom' > and 'dad' is helping their children more than the traditional > interventions - as is developmentally appropriate goals, which it > sounds like if your son is 10 and you don't mind that he is working at > K level, you are doing as well. It is better to go slow and steady to > make the most long-term gains, IMO. The pedneuro who dx my son told me he would never talk and probably never even acknowledge my existence [he was a severe, low functioning Kanner child], and I should " enroll him in the public school, they will know what he needs " . Anyone here who has ever had an IEP meeting will be able to attest that this statement can't be trusted. My son not only talks now, he reads, interacts, and except for the fact that he is 10, acts like a typical child of about 4-5yo. At our homeschool ISP [umbrella school] graduation ceremony this year, I introduced him to a medical doctor who is homeschooling her typical child. She was amazed that he had a Kanner dx! Dana ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 >>I had someone respond to me on another support group with the following: > > I'm glad to hear you're addressing biological assaults of related conditions (co-morbid) such as Celiac and Sensory Integration Disorder. However you've not told me if you're addressing the core symptoms of Autism, generally core issues of AU, even with the highest functioning individuals is information processing and social relations with peers. > > What does she mean by information processing and social relations with peers? I don't want someone giving me advice that is AGAINST homeschooling my son. He is on the high functioning end for sure and this is what I want for our family. I addressed those two issues by doing biomedical approaches. If you are doing biomedical, then you are addressing those issues. Many people believe the child needs therapies to address those issues, and in fact therapies help many children, but did not do much for my son. Biomedical addressed all of my son's issues. The person may have been recommending therapies, or biomedical. I don't know if it would be " against homeschooling " , because you can do most therapies at home, and in fact therapies are usually more effective in the home environment than in the school environment. Why is it important that this person know what you are doing for your son? Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Also, this person most likely only sees people who have not done biomedical or if they have, they are the ones who might still need or benefit from therapies. She would be unlikely to run across an ASD person who was completely social as they would have no need for her interventions or group. I agree with Dana, anything we tried to teach before there was sufficient recovery from chelation or other biomedical interventions, was NOT successful, at all. When she was recovered enough, it was completely effortless. [ ] Re: I have autism and I'm normal -- AUTISM and Mercury poisoning >>I had someone respond to me on another support group with the following: > > I'm glad to hear you're addressing biological assaults of related conditions (co-morbid) such as Celiac and Sensory Integration Disorder. However you've not told me if you're addressing the core symptoms of Autism, generally core issues of AU, even with the highest functioning individuals is information processing and social relations with peers. > > What does she mean by information processing and social relations with peers? I don't want someone giving me advice that is AGAINST homeschooling my son. He is on the high functioning end for sure and this is what I want for our family. I addressed those two issues by doing biomedical approaches. If you are doing biomedical, then you are addressing those issues. Many people believe the child needs therapies to address those issues, and in fact therapies help many children, but did not do much for my son. Biomedical addressed all of my son's issues. The person may have been recommending therapies, or biomedical. I don't know if it would be " against homeschooling " , because you can do most therapies at home, and in fact therapies are usually more effective in the home environment than in the school environment. Why is it important that this person know what you are doing for your son? Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 This person responded to one of my posts giving me some input on what I was doing for my son. She obviously is one of those people who feel strongly about peer interaction helping autism. That's a good point. I have been searching for help and getting input on what I am doing for help and I shouldn't take it personally if I don't agree with what everyone says! (One of those personality things I need to get over. Thanks, Jana danasview <danasview@...> wrote: >>I had someone respond to me on another support group with the following: > > I'm glad to hear you're addressing biological assaults of related conditions (co-morbid) such as Celiac and Sensory Integration Disorder. However you've not told me if you're addressing the core symptoms of Autism, generally core issues of AU, even with the highest functioning individuals is information processing and social relations with peers. > > What does she mean by information processing and social relations with peers? I don't want someone giving me advice that is AGAINST homeschooling my son. He is on the high functioning end for sure and this is what I want for our family. I addressed those two issues by doing biomedical approaches. If you are doing biomedical, then you are addressing those issues. Many people believe the child needs therapies to address those issues, and in fact therapies help many children, but did not do much for my son. Biomedical addressed all of my son's issues. The person may have been recommending therapies, or biomedical. I don't know if it would be " against homeschooling " , because you can do most therapies at home, and in fact therapies are usually more effective in the home environment than in the school environment. Why is it important that this person know what you are doing for your son? Dana ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 > > This person responded to one of my posts giving me some input on what I was doing for my son. She obviously is one of those people who feel strongly about peer interaction helping autism. Just to throw my experience in -- after a disastrous K year, with my son talking about suicide, I homeschooled him for half a year. In K he had plenty of peer interaction obviously, and it was a small private school in which the teachers were very warm, very helpful with teaching social skills and being supportive (his K teacher spent many many recesses coaching him how to deal with playground interaction). Yet despite all that he was miserable, and his social skills weren't progressing. During the half year of homeschooling we had minimal contact with peers. We spent a lot of days in our pj's, with me reading aloud to him and that was mostly it for the day. We did a lot of chelating and supp adjusting! The fact that his stress level went WAY down allowed all sorts of healing, and eventually he actually wanted to go to school because he wanted to be around his peers. Sometimes the best way to accomplish something is not by heading straight at it. Holing up at home instead of putting him in stressful situations with a lot of kids he didn't know how to connect with was a much better strategy. In K he was all too aware that he didn't/couildn't fit it or connect, and the other kids annoyed him. None of those problems though when he went back to school and was ready to be there. Nell PS I miss homeschooling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 > > This person responded to one of my posts giving me some input on what I was doing for my son. She obviously is one of those people who feel strongly about peer interaction helping autism. Depends on her definition of " peer interaction " . If the peers are attempting to kill you, I would definitely not make a statement that it was " helping " anything. > That's a good point. I have been searching for help and getting input on what I am doing for help and I shouldn't take it personally if I don't agree with what everyone says! (One of those personality things I need to get over. The chelation protocol I used for my kids is *not* recommended by most people on this message board, but my kids are fully chelated and very much improved because of it, and I don't hesitate to discuss it if/when someone asks. So just because you disagree with *everyone*, does not mean that your approach is not also acceptable for your child. Keep doing what works for your child! Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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