Re: Rolling Eyes into Head: Seizure or Tic

[Guest guest]

Is he GFCF? If so, is calcium well supplemented (1200mg/day)?

[ ] Rolling Eyes into Head: Seizure or Tic

We are on round two of chelation and since round one my son has started

to roll his eyes into the back of his head. Its not yeast (yeast

protocal is strong and negative test results are in). It seems to

happen when a flash of bright light hits his eyes like while swinging

under the tree or turning a corner in the car and light comes through

the window. I haven't seen it happen inside. We are going to see a

neurologist but I don't really think seizuere (but I don't really know

anything about seizures.) All I can guess is he is become more

sensitive to light, which he has always been sensitive to bright light,

just never rolled his eyes into his head.

What causes light sensitivty and why would it increase with chelation?

[Guest guest]

Yes, he GFCFSF and SCD, but he only gets 425mg calcium and 200mg mag.

He is 24lbs and 2yo. Should I up the calcium? And Magnesium?

sarah

[Guest guest]

What chelator, dose, and dosing schedule? How much does he weigh? Photophobia

is a symptom of mercury poisoning. I presume he has NO mercury amalgam dental

fillings? How long do his eye rolling episodes last? Does he seem to hear you

during them?

S S

<p>We are on round two of chelation and since round one my son has

started <br>

to roll his eyes into the back of his head. Its not yeast (yeast <br>

protocal is strong and negative test results are in). It seems to <br>

happen when a flash of bright light hits his eyes like while swinging <br>

under the tree or turning a corner in the car and light comes through <br>

the window. I haven't seen it happen inside. We are going to see a <br>

neurologist but I don't really think seizuere (but I don't really know <br>

anything about seizures.) All I can guess is he is become more <br>

sensitive to light, which he has always been sensitive to bright light, <br>

just never rolled his eyes into his head.<br>

<br>

What causes light sensitivty and why would it increase with chelation?<br>

<br>

_______________________________________________

Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

The most personalized portal on the Web!

[Guest guest]

Light sensitivity is caused from heavy metal exposure. It maybe

flaring up because you are moving metals with chelation.

Post his chelation protocol. And supplements list.

In , " sarah " <marchica@...> wrote:

>

> We are on round two of chelation and since round one my son has

started

> to roll his eyes into the back of his head. Its not yeast (yeast

> protocal is strong and negative test results are in). It seems to

> happen when a flash of bright light hits his eyes like while

swinging

> under the tree or turning a corner in the car and light comes

through

> the window. I haven't seen it happen inside. We are going to see a

> neurologist but I don't really think seizuere (but I don't really

know

> anything about seizures.) All I can guess is he is become more

> sensitive to light, which he has always been sensitive to bright

light,

> just never rolled his eyes into his head.

>

> What causes light sensitivty and why would it increase with

chelation?

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> We are on round two of chelation and since round one my son has started

> to roll his eyes into the back of his head. Its not yeast (yeast

> protocal is strong and negative test results are in).

Was he tested for yeast in his brain? [That is a rhetorical question,

I am not aware of any test that will test for yeast in the brain.]

The typical yeast tests apparently do not test for that [there is no

yeast in the gut, so the tests come up negative, even tho there is

yeast, just not in the gut]. When my son had yeast in his brain, one

of the things he would do was roll his eyes. You might consider

increasing the yeast protocol for a few days, see if it has any effect.

Dana

[Guest guest]

For my daughter it's a viral thing that causes the seizure/tic. You

may want to check viral panels (immuno science lab) and then

possibly think of Valtrex and/or high dose Vit A protocols. It's

good to check the panels but sometimes the antibody levels are low

even though the child still can have a chronic viral

encephalititis. It makes sense because had my daughter mounted an

appropriate immune response to her vaccines, she wouldn't have

achronic measles encephalitis.

Sheri Wang

> >

> > We are on round two of chelation and since round one my son has

started

> > to roll his eyes into the back of his head. Its not yeast (yeast

> > protocal is strong and negative test results are in).

>

>

> Was he tested for yeast in his brain? [That is a rhetorical

question,

> I am not aware of any test that will test for yeast in the brain.]

> The typical yeast tests apparently do not test for that [there is

no

> yeast in the gut, so the tests come up negative, even tho there is

> yeast, just not in the gut]. When my son had yeast in his brain,

one

> of the things he would do was roll his eyes. You might consider

> increasing the yeast protocol for a few days, see if it has any

effect.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

This is ironic that this was posted now since my son has done the

same thing 3 times in the past 2 weeks but we are not chelationg at

the moment. It usually happens when he is over stimulated like if

we are rough housing or I am tickling him. He will roll his eyes in

his head but when I say " stop " or " don't " he come right out of it.

His doctor said if it was a seizure he wouldn't come out of it by

yelling at him. So most likely a tick. He is going through puberty

big time right now and we are weaning him off Zoloft so that may

have something to do with it. Saturday I am starting him on high

dose Vitamin C and TD- glutathione.

>

> We are on round two of chelation and since round one my son has

started

> to roll his eyes into the back of his head. Its not yeast (yeast

> protocal is strong and negative test results are in). It seems to

> happen when a flash of bright light hits his eyes like while

swinging

> under the tree or turning a corner in the car and light comes

through

> the window. I haven't seen it happen inside. We are going to see a

> neurologist but I don't really think seizuere (but I don't really

know

> anything about seizures.) All I can guess is he is become more

> sensitive to light, which he has always been sensitive to bright

light,

> just never rolled his eyes into his head.

>

> What causes light sensitivty and why would it increase with

chelation?

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son did this when he was chelating with oral DMSA/ala.

Supplementing with extra cal/mag helped for this to go away. And it

went away very quickly. I think it was mostly the mag but since I

always supplemented together, I can't say for sure. Magnesium is

recommended for light sensitivity and seizures. Hope this helps.

My best,

Tami W

Gavin's mom

> >

> > We are on round two of chelation and since round one my son has

> started

> > to roll his eyes into the back of his head. Its not yeast (yeast

> > protocal is strong and negative test results are in). It seems

to

> > happen when a flash of bright light hits his eyes like while

> swinging

> > under the tree or turning a corner in the car and light comes

> through

> > the window. I haven't seen it happen inside. We are going to see

a

> > neurologist but I don't really think seizuere (but I don't

really

> know

> > anything about seizures.) All I can guess is he is become more

> > sensitive to light, which he has always been sensitive to bright

> light,

> > just never rolled his eyes into his head.

> >

> > What causes light sensitivty and why would it increase with

> chelation?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>>Saturday I am starting him on high

> dose Vitamin C and TD- glutathione.

Watch these. Both of them can cause yeast.

I am doing a very high dose vitamin C protocol right now, as

anti-viral, because my son no longer does well with Virastop and OLE.

Now, it may just be coincidental because high dose vitamin C is

basically the LAST supplement that I am giving, but this has been the

absolute BEST intervention for speech and language. #2 is talking in

near-complete sentences [before this, was usually only phrases], and

#3 has really increased in his pretend play skills. Yesterday, #3 put

a large afghan over his head and told me " I am ghost! " Then later he

came up with his sister, who had a large afghan over her head also,

and said " I am giant ghost! " [he is all of about a half inch taller

than she is LOL].

Vitamin C does still cause tremendous yeast for #2, but not for #3 any

more, so I am VERY hopeful!

But to think that the #1 intervention for speech and language and

pretend play skills, for my kids, is vitamin C seems very odd LOL

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> That is great Dana! What dose are you using this time?

45 grams per day for #2 and 10 grams per day for #3. It does keep

them awake for a while after they go to bed, so I am trying to load it

more in the morning now.

#3's language is absolutely exploding! Yesterday he was experimenting

with adjectives, going up to almost everything he saw and describing

it with as many different adjectives as he knew, and I would add in a

few more for him.

And related to another thread, the vitamin C I am giving is 1000mg [1

gram] ascorbic acid and 50mg rose hips per capsule. I have a bottle

of bioflavonoids here, I will try adding a capsule today and see what

happens.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I do beleive he has a viral problem, but his first round of viral

testing all came back negative and my DAN! will not let me do a trial

of Valtrex. Even though I beleive it will help.

[Guest guest]

My son is 24 lbs and taking 6.25mg DMSA every four hours for three days

on 4 days off. I do want to add ALA but my DAN! told me to wait.

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Do you check the PH levels of your kids ?

I have to wonder if all that VitC has an impact on their PH and possibly

that is a contributor to your recent success.

The reason I bring this up is because of previous posts where I and others

have noticed kids doing better on or off round.

Seems odd to me that some kids do better on and others better off ..

Since we keep everything pretty much the same on & off round except for the

chelator, I am trying to figure out what is happening.

Regards,

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of danasview

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:36 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Rolling Eyes into Head: Seizure or Tic

>>Saturday I am starting him on high

> dose Vitamin C and TD- glutathione.

Watch these. Both of them can cause yeast.

I am doing a very high dose vitamin C protocol right now, as

anti-viral, because my son no longer does well with Virastop and OLE.

Now, it may just be coincidental because high dose vitamin C is

basically the LAST supplement that I am giving, but this has been the

absolute BEST intervention for speech and language. #2 is talking in

near-complete sentences [before this, was usually only phrases], and

#3 has really increased in his pretend play skills. Yesterday, #3 put

a large afghan over his head and told me " I am ghost! " Then later he

came up with his sister, who had a large afghan over her head also,

and said " I am giant ghost! " [he is all of about a half inch taller

than she is LOL].

Vitamin C does still cause tremendous yeast for #2, but not for #3 any

more, so I am VERY hopeful!

But to think that the #1 intervention for speech and language and

pretend play skills, for my kids, is vitamin C seems very odd LOL

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> I do beleive he has a viral problem, but his first round of viral

> testing all came back negative and my DAN! will not let me do a trial

> of Valtrex. Even though I beleive it will help.

Try using natural anti-virals. Vitamins A and C, Virastop enzyme,

olive leaf extract, etc.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Do you check the PH levels of your kids ?

Have not done that yet. Would the test kit from my fish tank work?

> Seems odd to me that some kids do better on and others better off ..

My son did better " on " because he was mineral toxic, and the ALA was

also pulling minerals.

> Since we keep everything pretty much the same on & off round except

for the

> chelator, I am trying to figure out what is happening.

Does he do better " on " or " off " ?

Dana

[Guest guest]

I am not sure, but I suspect any test strip would work for testing PH.

Someone posted a *bunch* of info about testing PH a while back, I will have

to dig for that.

He does better ON round, more connected. Off round he is more spacey.

We have a yeast protocol that we follow (adapted from your suggestions a

long time ago), this works well and we bump it up every now and then when we

suspect a flare up.

I just wish there was some easy way to tell what changes during ON rounds

that causes some kids to do better and others to do worse.

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of danasview

Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:06 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Rolling Eyes into Head: Seizure or Tic

> Do you check the PH levels of your kids ?

Have not done that yet. Would the test kit from my fish tank work?

> Seems odd to me that some kids do better on and others better off ..

My son did better " on " because he was mineral toxic, and the ALA was

also pulling minerals.

> Since we keep everything pretty much the same on & off round except

for the

> chelator, I am trying to figure out what is happening.

Does he do better " on " or " off " ?

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> I am not sure, but I suspect any test strip would work for testing PH.

Thanks, I might try this.

> He does better ON round, more connected. Off round he is more spacey.

For my son, this was true because he was mineral toxic, and the ALA

was pulling minerals.

Dana