Re: Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not Harmful

[Guest guest]

This comes from Offitt, M.D. of the

Philadelphia Children's Hospital. He is

the number one national defender of mercury

in vaccines. There are many opinions about

him.

--- Sheila Young <sheilayoung2004@...> wrote:

> Anyone care to comment? The following sounds

> convincing but maybe there is more

> to the story? Thanks.

>

> Sheila

>

> Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

> Harmful

> >From the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

> Vaccine Education Center

>

>

http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=75751

>

> Some parents are concerned that thimerosal, a

> mercury-containing

> preservative contained in the influenza vaccine,

> causes autism. However,

> during the past few years a series of biological and

> epidemiological studies

> have shown this concern to be unfounded. Here is a

> summary of the evidence

> showing that, while some things do cause autism,

> mercury in vaccines isn't

> one of them.

> All mercury isn't the same: methylmercury vs.

> ethylmercury

> Mercury is a naturally occurring element found

> in the earth's crust,

> air, soil and water. Since the earth's formation,

> volcanic eruptions,

> weathering of rocks and burning of coal have caused

> mercury to be released

> into the environment. Once released, certain types

> of bacteria in the

> environment can change mercury to methylmercury.

> Methylmercury makes its

> way through the food chain in fish, animals, and

> humans. At high levels, it

> can be toxic to people.

> Thimerosal - a preservative still used in the

> influenza vaccine -

> contains a different form of mercury called

> ethylmercury. Studies comparing

> ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they are

> processed differently

> in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and

> excreted much more

> rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore, ethylmercury

> (the type of mercury in

> the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than

> methylmercury (the type of

> mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the

> body and cause harm.

> Evidence that mercury doesn't cause autism In

> 1971 Iraq imported grain

> that had been fumigated with methylmercury. Farmers

> ate bread made from this

> grain. The result was one of the worst,

> single-source, mercury poisonings in

> history. Methylmercury in the grain caused the

> hospitalization of 6,500

> Iraqis and killed 450. Pregnant women also ate the

> bread and delivered

> babies with epilepsy and mental retardation. But

> they didn't deliver babies

> with an increased risk of autism.

> Four large studies have now compared the risk

> of autism in children

> who received vaccines containing thimerosal to those

> who received vaccines

> without thimerosal. The studies were consistent,

> clear and reproducible -

> the incidence of autism was the same in both groups.

> Denmark, a country that

> abandoned thimerosal as a preservative in 1991,

> actually saw an increase in

> the disease beginning several years later.

> Studies of the head size, speech patterns,

> vision, coordination and

> sensation of children poisoned by mercury show that

> the symptoms of mercury

> poisoning are clearly different from the symptoms of

> autism.

> Methylmercury is found in low levels in water,

> infant formula and

> breast milk. Although it is clear that large

> quantities of mercury can

> damage the nervous system, there is no evidence that

> the small quantities

> contained in water, infant formula and breast milk

> do. An infant who is

> exclusively breast-fed will ingest more than twice

> the quantity of mercury

> that was ever contained in vaccines and fifteen

> times the quantity of

> mercury contained in the influenza vaccine.

> What is known about the causes of autism?

> First, like cystic fibrosis

> or sickle-cell disease, autism clearly has a genetic

> basis. Researchers

> found that when one identical twin had autism, the

> chance that the other

> twin had autism was about 90 percent; for fraternal

> twins, the chance was

> less than 10 percent.

> Second, although autism clearly has a genetic

> basis, environmental

> factors can also cause the disease. For example,

> children whose mothers took

> thalidomide during pregnancy had birth defects,

> including malformed ears and

> shortened limbs. But they also had a significantly

> greater incidence of

> autism than babies born to mothers who never took

> thalidomide. Thalidomide

> clearly caused autism, but only if mothers took it

> early in pregnancy. If

> mothers took thalidomide in the second or third

> trimester of pregnancy,

> their babies weren't at increased risk of autism.

> The thalidomide experience showed that there

> was a vulnerable time

> early in pregnancy when a drug could possibly cause

> autism. Echoes of the

> thalidomide story are found in babies infected with

> rubella virus. Babies

> born to mothers who suffered rubella early in their

> pregnancies develop

> birth defects involving the eyes, ears, brain and

> heart. They also are at

> greater risk of developing autism, but like

> thalidomide, only if the baby is

> exposed to rubella early during pregnancy. Babies

> don't develop autism if

> they are infected with the virus soon after birth.

> Taken together, these

> findings suggest that a virus or a drug can cause

> autism, and that there is

> a vulnerable time early during pregnancy when the

> baby is at risk. However,

> during the second or third trimester of pregnancy,

> or after the child is

> born, the window for environmental factors causing

> autism has apparently

> closed.

> Women in the United States also occasionally

> received mercury when

> they were pregnant. It happened when doctors found

> that the mother's blood

> type was not compatible with their baby's blood

> type. To prevent this blood

> mismatch from hurting the baby, mothers were given

> RhoGam, a product that

> contained thimerosal as a preservative. However,

> consistent with the

> observation in Iraq, babies exposed to thimerosal in

> RhoGam did not have a

> greater risk for autism than babies whose mothers

> never received RhoGam.

> Although thalidomide and rubella virus can cause

> autism in pregnancy,

> scientific evidence clearly indicates that mercury

> doesn't.

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things

> you can do to help slow climate change. Earth

> Day

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Our opinion (that mercury is bad) is not a main

stream opinion. Every " authority " agrees,

mercury is good,

among them the CDC, FDA, IOM, ABC, EFG, XYZ.

Our opinion is consider by the mainstream to

be a " fringe " or " kooky " .

You will find many, many mainstream opinions

that injecting mercury into infants is good

medicine. 95% of pediatrians agree: mercury

is good.

Welcome to the fringe... It's uncomfortable

out here, in the minority.

--- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> This comes from Offitt, M.D. of the

> Philadelphia Children's Hospital. He is

> the number one national defender of mercury

> in vaccines. There are many opinions about

> him.

>

> --- Sheila Young <sheilayoung2004@...> wrote:

>

> > Anyone care to comment? The following sounds

> > convincing but maybe there is more

> > to the story? Thanks.

> >

> > Sheila

> >

> > Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

> > Harmful

> > >From the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

> > Vaccine Education Center

> >

> >

>

http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=75751

> >

> > Some parents are concerned that thimerosal,

> a

> > mercury-containing

> > preservative contained in the influenza vaccine,

> > causes autism. However,

> > during the past few years a series of biological

> and

> > epidemiological studies

> > have shown this concern to be unfounded. Here is a

> > summary of the evidence

> > showing that, while some things do cause autism,

> > mercury in vaccines isn't

> > one of them.

> > All mercury isn't the same: methylmercury

> vs.

> > ethylmercury

> > Mercury is a naturally occurring element

> found

> > in the earth's crust,

> > air, soil and water. Since the earth's formation,

> > volcanic eruptions,

> > weathering of rocks and burning of coal have

> caused

> > mercury to be released

> > into the environment. Once released, certain types

> > of bacteria in the

> > environment can change mercury to methylmercury.

> > Methylmercury makes its

> > way through the food chain in fish, animals, and

> > humans. At high levels, it

> > can be toxic to people.

> > Thimerosal - a preservative still used in

> the

> > influenza vaccine -

> > contains a different form of mercury called

> > ethylmercury. Studies comparing

> > ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they

> are

> > processed differently

> > in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and

> > excreted much more

> > rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore,

> ethylmercury

> > (the type of mercury in

> > the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than

> > methylmercury (the type of

> > mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the

> > body and cause harm.

> > Evidence that mercury doesn't cause autism

> In

> > 1971 Iraq imported grain

> > that had been fumigated with methylmercury.

> Farmers

> > ate bread made from this

> > grain. The result was one of the worst,

> > single-source, mercury poisonings in

> > history. Methylmercury in the grain caused the

> > hospitalization of 6,500

> > Iraqis and killed 450. Pregnant women also ate the

> > bread and delivered

> > babies with epilepsy and mental retardation. But

> > they didn't deliver babies

> > with an increased risk of autism.

> > Four large studies have now compared the

> risk

> > of autism in children

> > who received vaccines containing thimerosal to

> those

> > who received vaccines

> > without thimerosal. The studies were consistent,

> > clear and reproducible -

> > the incidence of autism was the same in both

> groups.

> > Denmark, a country that

> > abandoned thimerosal as a preservative in 1991,

> > actually saw an increase in

> > the disease beginning several years later.

> > Studies of the head size, speech patterns,

> > vision, coordination and

> > sensation of children poisoned by mercury show

> that

> > the symptoms of mercury

> > poisoning are clearly different from the symptoms

> of

> > autism.

> > Methylmercury is found in low levels in

> water,

> > infant formula and

> > breast milk. Although it is clear that large

> > quantities of mercury can

> > damage the nervous system, there is no evidence

> that

> > the small quantities

> > contained in water, infant formula and breast milk

> > do. An infant who is

> > exclusively breast-fed will ingest more than twice

> > the quantity of mercury

> > that was ever contained in vaccines and fifteen

> > times the quantity of

> > mercury contained in the influenza vaccine.

> > What is known about the causes of autism?

> > First, like cystic fibrosis

> > or sickle-cell disease, autism clearly has a

> genetic

> > basis. Researchers

> > found that when one identical twin had autism, the

> > chance that the other

> > twin had autism was about 90 percent; for

> fraternal

> > twins, the chance was

> > less than 10 percent.

> > Second, although autism clearly has a

> genetic

> > basis, environmental

> > factors can also cause the disease. For example,

> > children whose mothers took

> > thalidomide during pregnancy had birth defects,

> > including malformed ears and

> > shortened limbs. But they also had a significantly

> > greater incidence of

> > autism than babies born to mothers who never took

> > thalidomide. Thalidomide

> > clearly caused autism, but only if mothers took it

> > early in pregnancy. If

> > mothers took thalidomide in the second or third

> > trimester of pregnancy,

> > their babies weren't at increased risk of autism.

> > The thalidomide experience showed that there

> > was a vulnerable time

> > early in pregnancy when a drug could possibly

> cause

> > autism. Echoes of the

> > thalidomide story are found in babies infected

> with

> > rubella virus. Babies

> > born to mothers who suffered rubella early in

> their

> > pregnancies develop

> > birth defects involving the eyes, ears, brain and

> > heart. They also are at

> > greater risk of developing autism, but like

> > thalidomide, only if the baby is

> > exposed to rubella early during pregnancy. Babies

> > don't develop autism if

> > they are infected with the virus soon after birth.

>

> > Taken together, these

> > findings suggest that a virus or a drug can cause

> > autism, and that there is

> > a vulnerable time early during pregnancy when the

> > baby is at risk. However,

> > during the second or third trimester of pregnancy,

> > or after the child is

> > born, the window for environmental factors causing

> > autism has apparently

> > closed.

> > Women in the United States also occasionally

> > received mercury when

> > they were pregnant. It happened when doctors found

> > that the mother's blood

> > type was not compatible with their baby's blood

> > type. To prevent this blood

> > mismatch from hurting the baby, mothers were given

> > RhoGam, a product that

> > contained thimerosal as a preservative. However,

> > consistent with the

> > observation in Iraq, babies exposed to thimerosal

> in

> > RhoGam did not have a

> > greater risk for autism than babies whose mothers

> > never received RhoGam.

> > Although thalidomide and rubella virus can cause

> > autism in pregnancy,

> > scientific evidence clearly indicates that mercury

> > doesn't.

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things

> > you can do to help slow climate change.

> Earth

> > Day

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Offitt MD The Md stands for Master Deceiver, If any Doctor

deserves to rot it is Offitt! In my opinion, hell is too good for

that creep!

Donna

>

> > Anyone care to comment? The following sounds

> > convincing but maybe there is more

> > to the story? Thanks.

> >

> > Sheila

> >

> > Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

> > Harmful

> > >From the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

> > Vaccine Education Center

> >

> >

> http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=75751

> >

> > Some parents are concerned that thimerosal, a

> > mercury-containing

> > preservative contained in the influenza vaccine,

> > causes autism. However,

> > during the past few years a series of biological and

> > epidemiological studies

> > have shown this concern to be unfounded. Here is a

> > summary of the evidence

> > showing that, while some things do cause autism,

> > mercury in vaccines isn't

> > one of them.

> > All mercury isn't the same: methylmercury vs.

> > ethylmercury

> > Mercury is a naturally occurring element found

> > in the earth's crust,

> > air, soil and water. Since the earth's formation,

> > volcanic eruptions,

> > weathering of rocks and burning of coal have caused

> > mercury to be released

> > into the environment. Once released, certain types

> > of bacteria in the

> > environment can change mercury to methylmercury.

> > Methylmercury makes its

> > way through the food chain in fish, animals, and

> > humans. At high levels, it

> > can be toxic to people.

> > Thimerosal - a preservative still used in the

> > influenza vaccine -

> > contains a different form of mercury called

> > ethylmercury. Studies comparing

> > ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they are

> > processed differently

> > in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and

> > excreted much more

> > rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore, ethylmercury

> > (the type of mercury in

> > the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than

> > methylmercury (the type of

> > mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the

> > body and cause harm.

> > Evidence that mercury doesn't cause autism In

> > 1971 Iraq imported grain

> > that had been fumigated with methylmercury. Farmers

> > ate bread made from this

> > grain. The result was one of the worst,

> > single-source, mercury poisonings in

> > history. Methylmercury in the grain caused the

> > hospitalization of 6,500

> > Iraqis and killed 450. Pregnant women also ate the

> > bread and delivered

> > babies with epilepsy and mental retardation. But

> > they didn't deliver babies

> > with an increased risk of autism.

> > Four large studies have now compared the risk

> > of autism in children

> > who received vaccines containing thimerosal to those

> > who received vaccines

> > without thimerosal. The studies were consistent,

> > clear and reproducible -

> > the incidence of autism was the same in both groups.

> > Denmark, a country that

> > abandoned thimerosal as a preservative in 1991,

> > actually saw an increase in

> > the disease beginning several years later.

> > Studies of the head size, speech patterns,

> > vision, coordination and

> > sensation of children poisoned by mercury show that

> > the symptoms of mercury

> > poisoning are clearly different from the symptoms of

> > autism.

> > Methylmercury is found in low levels in water,

> > infant formula and

> > breast milk. Although it is clear that large

> > quantities of mercury can

> > damage the nervous system, there is no evidence that

> > the small quantities

> > contained in water, infant formula and breast milk

> > do. An infant who is

> > exclusively breast-fed will ingest more than twice

> > the quantity of mercury

> > that was ever contained in vaccines and fifteen

> > times the quantity of

> > mercury contained in the influenza vaccine.

> > What is known about the causes of autism?

> > First, like cystic fibrosis

> > or sickle-cell disease, autism clearly has a genetic

> > basis. Researchers

> > found that when one identical twin had autism, the

> > chance that the other

> > twin had autism was about 90 percent; for fraternal

> > twins, the chance was

> > less than 10 percent.

> > Second, although autism clearly has a genetic

> > basis, environmental

> > factors can also cause the disease. For example,

> > children whose mothers took

> > thalidomide during pregnancy had birth defects,

> > including malformed ears and

> > shortened limbs. But they also had a significantly

> > greater incidence of

> > autism than babies born to mothers who never took

> > thalidomide. Thalidomide

> > clearly caused autism, but only if mothers took it

> > early in pregnancy. If

> > mothers took thalidomide in the second or third

> > trimester of pregnancy,

> > their babies weren't at increased risk of autism.

> > The thalidomide experience showed that there

> > was a vulnerable time

> > early in pregnancy when a drug could possibly cause

> > autism. Echoes of the

> > thalidomide story are found in babies infected with

> > rubella virus. Babies

> > born to mothers who suffered rubella early in their

> > pregnancies develop

> > birth defects involving the eyes, ears, brain and

> > heart. They also are at

> > greater risk of developing autism, but like

> > thalidomide, only if the baby is

> > exposed to rubella early during pregnancy. Babies

> > don't develop autism if

> > they are infected with the virus soon after birth.

> > Taken together, these

> > findings suggest that a virus or a drug can cause

> > autism, and that there is

> > a vulnerable time early during pregnancy when the

> > baby is at risk. However,

> > during the second or third trimester of pregnancy,

> > or after the child is

> > born, the window for environmental factors causing

> > autism has apparently

> > closed.

> > Women in the United States also occasionally

> > received mercury when

> > they were pregnant. It happened when doctors found

> > that the mother's blood

> > type was not compatible with their baby's blood

> > type. To prevent this blood

> > mismatch from hurting the baby, mothers were given

> > RhoGam, a product that

> > contained thimerosal as a preservative. However,

> > consistent with the

> > observation in Iraq, babies exposed to thimerosal in

> > RhoGam did not have a

> > greater risk for autism than babies whose mothers

> > never received RhoGam.

> > Although thalidomide and rubella virus can cause

> > autism in pregnancy,

> > scientific evidence clearly indicates that mercury

> > doesn't.

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things

> > you can do to help slow climate change. Earth

> > Day

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

-Does this guy really beleive this load of crap? Mercury is

mercury. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck..hello its

a duck! I think BigPharma is in his pocket. He likes all the paid

golf vacations. He is comparing apples and oranges too. Acute

poisoning such as the grain incident is not going to cause the same

symptoms as chronic poisoning. Someone should line him up for his

series of vaccines with thimerosal!!!

-- In , " Donna " <donna.arnold@...>

wrote:

>

> Offitt MD The Md stands for Master Deceiver, If any Doctor

> deserves to rot it is Offitt! In my opinion, hell is too good for

> that creep!

>

>

> Donna

>

>

>

> >

> > > Anyone care to comment? The following sounds

> > > convincing but maybe there is more

> > > to the story? Thanks.

> > >

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > > Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

> > > Harmful

> > > >From the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

> > > Vaccine Education Center

> > >

> > >

> > http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=75751

> > >

> > > Some parents are concerned that thimerosal, a

> > > mercury-containing

> > > preservative contained in the influenza vaccine,

> > > causes autism. However,

> > > during the past few years a series of biological and

> > > epidemiological studies

> > > have shown this concern to be unfounded. Here is a

> > > summary of the evidence

> > > showing that, while some things do cause autism,

> > > mercury in vaccines isn't

> > > one of them.

> > > All mercury isn't the same: methylmercury vs.

> > > ethylmercury

> > > Mercury is a naturally occurring element found

> > > in the earth's crust,

> > > air, soil and water. Since the earth's formation,

> > > volcanic eruptions,

> > > weathering of rocks and burning of coal have caused

> > > mercury to be released

> > > into the environment. Once released, certain types

> > > of bacteria in the

> > > environment can change mercury to methylmercury.

> > > Methylmercury makes its

> > > way through the food chain in fish, animals, and

> > > humans. At high levels, it

> > > can be toxic to people.

> > > Thimerosal - a preservative still used in the

> > > influenza vaccine -

> > > contains a different form of mercury called

> > > ethylmercury. Studies comparing

> > > ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they are

> > > processed differently

> > > in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and

> > > excreted much more

> > > rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore, ethylmercury

> > > (the type of mercury in

> > > the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than

> > > methylmercury (the type of

> > > mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the

> > > body and cause harm.

> > > Evidence that mercury doesn't cause autism In

> > > 1971 Iraq imported grain

> > > that had been fumigated with methylmercury. Farmers

> > > ate bread made from this

> > > grain. The result was one of the worst,

> > > single-source, mercury poisonings in

> > > history. Methylmercury in the grain caused the

> > > hospitalization of 6,500

> > > Iraqis and killed 450. Pregnant women also ate the

> > > bread and delivered

> > > babies with epilepsy and mental retardation. But

> > > they didn't deliver babies

> > > with an increased risk of autism.

> > > Four large studies have now compared the risk

> > > of autism in children

> > > who received vaccines containing thimerosal to those

> > > who received vaccines

> > > without thimerosal. The studies were consistent,

> > > clear and reproducible -

> > > the incidence of autism was the same in both groups.

> > > Denmark, a country that

> > > abandoned thimerosal as a preservative in 1991,

> > > actually saw an increase in

> > > the disease beginning several years later.

> > > Studies of the head size, speech patterns,

> > > vision, coordination and

> > > sensation of children poisoned by mercury show that

> > > the symptoms of mercury

> > > poisoning are clearly different from the symptoms of

> > > autism.

> > > Methylmercury is found in low levels in water,

> > > infant formula and

> > > breast milk. Although it is clear that large

> > > quantities of mercury can

> > > damage the nervous system, there is no evidence that

> > > the small quantities

> > > contained in water, infant formula and breast milk

> > > do. An infant who is

> > > exclusively breast-fed will ingest more than twice

> > > the quantity of mercury

> > > that was ever contained in vaccines and fifteen

> > > times the quantity of

> > > mercury contained in the influenza vaccine.

> > > What is known about the causes of autism?

> > > First, like cystic fibrosis

> > > or sickle-cell disease, autism clearly has a genetic

> > > basis. Researchers

> > > found that when one identical twin had autism, the

> > > chance that the other

> > > twin had autism was about 90 percent; for fraternal

> > > twins, the chance was

> > > less than 10 percent.

> > > Second, although autism clearly has a genetic

> > > basis, environmental

> > > factors can also cause the disease. For example,

> > > children whose mothers took

> > > thalidomide during pregnancy had birth defects,

> > > including malformed ears and

> > > shortened limbs. But they also had a significantly

> > > greater incidence of

> > > autism than babies born to mothers who never took

> > > thalidomide. Thalidomide

> > > clearly caused autism, but only if mothers took it

> > > early in pregnancy. If

> > > mothers took thalidomide in the second or third

> > > trimester of pregnancy,

> > > their babies weren't at increased risk of autism.

> > > The thalidomide experience showed that there

> > > was a vulnerable time

> > > early in pregnancy when a drug could possibly cause

> > > autism. Echoes of the

> > > thalidomide story are found in babies infected with

> > > rubella virus. Babies

> > > born to mothers who suffered rubella early in their

> > > pregnancies develop

> > > birth defects involving the eyes, ears, brain and

> > > heart. They also are at

> > > greater risk of developing autism, but like

> > > thalidomide, only if the baby is

> > > exposed to rubella early during pregnancy. Babies

> > > don't develop autism if

> > > they are infected with the virus soon after birth.

> > > Taken together, these

> > > findings suggest that a virus or a drug can cause

> > > autism, and that there is

> > > a vulnerable time early during pregnancy when the

> > > baby is at risk. However,

> > > during the second or third trimester of pregnancy,

> > > or after the child is

> > > born, the window for environmental factors causing

> > > autism has apparently

> > > closed.

> > > Women in the United States also occasionally

> > > received mercury when

> > > they were pregnant. It happened when doctors found

> > > that the mother's blood

> > > type was not compatible with their baby's blood

> > > type. To prevent this blood

> > > mismatch from hurting the baby, mothers were given

> > > RhoGam, a product that

> > > contained thimerosal as a preservative. However,

> > > consistent with the

> > > observation in Iraq, babies exposed to thimerosal in

> > > RhoGam did not have a

> > > greater risk for autism than babies whose mothers

> > > never received RhoGam.

> > > Although thalidomide and rubella virus can cause

> > > autism in pregnancy,

> > > scientific evidence clearly indicates that mercury

> > > doesn't.

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things

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> Sheila,

>

> Our opinion (that mercury is bad) is not a main

> stream opinion. > Welcome to the fringe... It's uncomfortable

> out here, in the minority.

>

>

Yup. Don't like it one bit.

René

[Guest guest]

> -Does this guy really beleive this load of crap?

I would like to ask Dr. Offit a few questions myself:

1) How do you know the rates of autism really " went up " a few yrs

after Thimerosal was removed from Danish vaccines in 1991, and it

wasn't just the fact that there were better diagnosis techniques?

(tongue in cheek

2) How is being injected with mercury similar to ingesting it, if

breastfeeding exposes babies to twice the amount of mercury via

mother's milk than Thimerosal in a vaccination? Isn't injection much

more hazardous?

3) If Thimerosal has been " proven not to cause Autism " , then why was

it taken out of most vaccines in the USA?

, oh y-boy, what are your thoughts??

Very Fondly,

Meg

[Guest guest]

Sorry to be blunt, but this doctor is a complete *!*!*. I'd be

willing to bet a sizeable amount he doesn't have a child or family

member that virtually " fell apart at the seams " after receiving a

thimerasol laden injection while doctors sat around scratching their

heads about it. That report is totally ridiculous!!

Sheresa

>

> > -Does this guy really beleive this load of crap?

>

> I would like to ask Dr. Offit a few questions myself:

>

> 1) How do you know the rates of autism really " went up " a few yrs

> after Thimerosal was removed from Danish vaccines in 1991, and it

> wasn't just the fact that there were better diagnosis techniques?

> (tongue in cheek

>

> 2) How is being injected with mercury similar to ingesting it, if

> breastfeeding exposes babies to twice the amount of mercury via

> mother's milk than Thimerosal in a vaccination? Isn't injection

much

> more hazardous?

>

> 3) If Thimerosal has been " proven not to cause Autism " , then why

was

> it taken out of most vaccines in the USA?

>

> , oh y-boy, what are your thoughts??

>

> Very Fondly,

>

> Meg

>

[Guest guest]

Just ask him what's the FDA CDC or EPA safe level of ethylmercury exposure. He

can't answer because there isn't one some seven years after they rang the bell.

[ ] Re: Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

Harmful

> -Does this guy really beleive this load of crap?

I would like to ask Dr. Offit a few questions myself:

1) How do you know the rates of autism really " went up " a few yrs

after Thimerosal was removed from Danish vaccines in 1991, and it

wasn't just the fact that there were better diagnosis techniques?

(tongue in cheek

2) How is being injected with mercury similar to ingesting it, if

breastfeeding exposes babies to twice the amount of mercury via

mother's milk than Thimerosal in a vaccination? Isn't injection much

more hazardous?

3) If Thimerosal has been " proven not to cause Autism " , then why was

it taken out of most vaccines in the USA?

, oh y-boy, what are your thoughts??

Very Fondly,

Meg

=======================================================

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I don't think they give a rip whether mercury is good or bad. They only care

about money. That is their bottom line: money.

In a message dated 4/23/2006 3:12:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mlcowen@... writes:

Sheila,

Our opinion (that mercury is bad) is not a main

stream opinion. Every " authority " agrees,

mercury is good,

among them the CDC, FDA, IOM, ABC, EFG, XYZ.

Our opinion is consider by the mainstream to

be a " fringe " or " kooky " .

You will find many, many mainstream opinions

that injecting mercury into infants is good

medicine. 95% of pediatrians agree: mercury

is good.

Welcome to the fringe... It's uncomfortable

out here, in the minority.

--- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> This comes from Offitt, M.D. of the

> Philadelphia Children's Hospital. He is

> the number one national defender of mercury

> in vaccines. There are many opinions about

> him.

>

> --- Sheila Young <sheilayoung2004@...> wrote:

>

> > Anyone care to comment? The following sounds

> > convincing but maybe there is more

> > to the story? Thanks.

> >

> > Sheila

> >

> > Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

> > Harmful

> > >From the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

> > Vaccine Education Center

> >

> >

>

http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=75751

> >

> > Some parents are concerned that thimerosal,

> a

> > mercury-containing

> > preservative contained in the influenza vaccine,

> > causes autism. However,

> > during the past few years a series of biological

> and

> > epidemiological studies

> > have shown this concern to be unfounded. Here is a

> > summary of the evidence

> > showing that, while some things do cause autism,

> > mercury in vaccines isn't

> > one of them.

> > All mercury isn't the same: methylmercury

> vs.

> > ethylmercury

> > Mercury is a naturally occurring element

> found

> > in the earth's crust,

> > air, soil and water. Since the earth's formation,

> > volcanic eruptions,

> > weathering of rocks and burning of coal have

> caused

> > mercury to be released

> > into the environment. Once released, certain types

> > of bacteria in the

> > environment can change mercury to methylmercury.

> > Methylmercury makes its

> > way through the food chain in fish, animals, and

> > humans. At high levels, it

> > can be toxic to people.

> > Thimerosal - a preservative still used in

> the

> > influenza vaccine -

> > contains a different form of mercury called

> > ethylmercury. Studies comparing

> > ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they

> are

> > processed differently

> > in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and

> > excreted much more

> > rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore,

> ethylmercury

> > (the type of mercury in

> > the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than

> > methylmercury (the type of

> > mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the

> > body and cause harm.

> > Evidence that mercury doesn't cause autism

> In

> > 1971 Iraq imported grain

> > that had been fumigated with methylmercury.

> Farmers

> > ate bread made from this

> > grain. The result was one of the worst,

> > single-source, mercury poisonings in

> > history. Methylmercury in the grain caused the

> > hospitalization of 6,500

> > Iraqis and killed 450. Pregnant women also ate the

> > bread and delivered

> > babies with epilepsy and mental retardation. But

> > they didn't deliver babies

> > with an increased risk of autism.

> > Four large studies have now compared the

> risk

> > of autism in children

> > who received vaccines containing thimerosal to

> those

> > who received vaccines

> > without thimerosal. The studies were consistent,

> > clear and reproducible -

> > the incidence of autism was the same in both

> groups.

> > Denmark, a country that

> > abandoned thimerosal as a preservative in 1991,

> > actually saw an increase in

> > the disease beginning several years later.

> > Studies of the head size, speech patterns,

> > vision, coordination and

> > sensation of children poisoned by mercury show

> that

> > the symptoms of mercury

> > poisoning are clearly different from the symptoms

> of

> > autism.

> > Methylmercury is found in low levels in

> water,

> > infant formula and

> > breast milk. Although it is clear that large

> > quantities of mercury can

> > damage the nervous system, there is no evidence

> that

> > the small quantities

> > contained in water, infant formula and breast milk

> > do. An infant who is

> > exclusively breast-fed will ingest more than twice

> > the quantity of mercury

> > that was ever contained in vaccines and fifteen

> > times the quantity of

> > mercury contained in the influenza vaccine.

> > What is known about the causes of autism?

> > First, like cystic fibrosis

> > or sickle-cell disease, autism clearly has a

> genetic

> > basis. Researchers

> > found that when one identical twin had autism, the

> > chance that the other

> > twin had autism was about 90 percent; for

> fraternal

> > twins, the chance was

> > less than 10 percent.

> > Second, although autism clearly has a

> genetic

> > basis, environmental

> > factors can also cause the disease. For example,

> > children whose mothers took

> > thalidomide during pregnancy had birth defects,

> > including malformed ears and

> > shortened limbs. But they also had a significantly

> > greater incidence of

> > autism than babies born to mothers who never took

> > thalidomide. Thalidomide

> > clearly caused autism, but only if mothers took it

> > early in pregnancy. If

> > mothers took thalidomide in the second or third

> > trimester of pregnancy,

> > their babies weren't at increased risk of autism.

> > The thalidomide experience showed that there

> > was a vulnerable time

> > early in pregnancy when a drug could possibly

> cause

> > autism. Echoes of the

> > thalidomide story are found in babies infected

> with

> > rubella virus. Babies

> > born to mothers who suffered rubella early in

> their

> > pregnancies develop

> > birth defects involving the eyes, ears, brain and

> > heart. They also are at

> > greater risk of developing autism, but like

> > thalidomide, only if the baby is

> > exposed to rubella early during pregnancy. Babies

> > don't develop autism if

> > they are infected with the virus soon after birth.

>

> > Taken together, these

> > findings suggest that a virus or a drug can cause

> > autism, and that there is

> > a vulnerable time early during pregnancy when the

> > baby is at risk. However,

> > during the second or third trimester of pregnancy,

> > or after the child is

> > born, the window for environmental factors causing

> > autism has apparently

> > closed.

> > Women in the United States also occasionally

> > received mercury when

> > they were pregnant. It happened when doctors found

> > that the mother's blood

> > type was not compatible with their baby's blood

> > type. To prevent this blood

> > mismatch from hurting the baby, mothers were given

> > RhoGam, a product that

> > contained thimerosal as a preservative. However,

> > consistent with the

> > observation in Iraq, babies exposed to thimerosal

> in

> > RhoGam did not have a

> > greater risk for autism than babies whose mothers

> > never received RhoGam.

> > Although thalidomide and rubella virus can cause

> > autism in pregnancy,

> > scientific evidence clearly indicates that mercury

> > doesn't.

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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> > you can do to help slow climate change.

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If its all so safe why doesnt the president of the CDC vaccinate his own kids

then? Thats all I am sayin....?!

Kerbob <robertbloch@...> wrote:

Just ask him what's the FDA CDC or EPA safe level of ethylmercury exposure. He

can't answer because there isn't one some seven years after they rang the bell.

[ ] Re: Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

Harmful

> -Does this guy really beleive this load of crap?

I would like to ask Dr. Offit a few questions myself:

1) How do you know the rates of autism really " went up " a few yrs

after Thimerosal was removed from Danish vaccines in 1991, and it

wasn't just the fact that there were better diagnosis techniques?

(tongue in cheek

2) How is being injected with mercury similar to ingesting it, if

breastfeeding exposes babies to twice the amount of mercury via

mother's milk than Thimerosal in a vaccination? Isn't injection much

more hazardous?

3) If Thimerosal has been " proven not to cause Autism " , then why was

it taken out of most vaccines in the USA?

, oh y-boy, what are your thoughts??

Very Fondly,

Meg

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

How do you know he doesn't? Interesting to say the least...

<briseis702@...> wrote:

If its all so safe why doesnt the president of the CDC vaccinate his own kids

then? Thats all I am sayin....?!

Kerbob <robertbloch@...> wrote:

Just ask him what's the FDA CDC or EPA safe level of ethylmercury exposure. He

can't answer because there isn't one some seven years after they rang the bell.

[ ] Re: Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

Harmful

> -Does this guy really beleive this load of crap?

I would like to ask Dr. Offit a few questions myself:

1) How do you know the rates of autism really " went up " a few yrs

after Thimerosal was removed from Danish vaccines in 1991, and it

wasn't just the fact that there were better diagnosis techniques?

(tongue in cheek

2) How is being injected with mercury similar to ingesting it, if

breastfeeding exposes babies to twice the amount of mercury via

mother's milk than Thimerosal in a vaccination? Isn't injection much

more hazardous?

3) If Thimerosal has been " proven not to cause Autism " , then why was

it taken out of most vaccines in the USA?

, oh y-boy, what are your thoughts??

Very Fondly,

Meg

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Saying ethylmercury is safe at any level without having a safe exposure

established by convention means the person is making an unsubstantiated

health/safety claim. Alarms bells within the medical community should be

clanging all over the place. This is a violation of medical ethics and true

science, it is dishonest to potential investors and established stock-holders,

and frightfully misleading to the American public.

That says a lot.

[ ] Re: Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury

Not Harmful

> -Does this guy really beleive this load of crap?

I would like to ask Dr. Offit a few questions myself:

1) How do you know the rates of autism really " went up " a few yrs

after Thimerosal was removed from Danish vaccines in 1991, and it

wasn't just the fact that there were better diagnosis techniques?

(tongue in cheek

2) How is being injected with mercury similar to ingesting it, if

breastfeeding exposes babies to twice the amount of mercury via

mother's milk than Thimerosal in a vaccination? Isn't injection much

more hazardous?

3) If Thimerosal has been " proven not to cause Autism " , then why was

it taken out of most vaccines in the USA?

, oh y-boy, what are your thoughts??

Very Fondly,

Meg

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

It is interesting that the total oppositeis found in unbiased studies esp in

other countries where the fox is not guarding the henhouse ie a;; those guys

who say mercury is safe usually end up going to work for the giant pharm cows

right after they claim the vaccine is safe. Coincidence?

And don't even getime stared about how Bill Frist( and others} owns huge

stocks in Eli lilly and it is such a conflict of interest but hey Why should

they care if your kid gets autism? They are rich and have no conscience and I

agree with the person that said hell is too good for them and I think they

should all be put on trial and some of them given the death sentence They have

done a pretty good job at destroying most of the next generation. I guess I am

still a little bitter Sorry Love Jen

Rabold92@... wrote:

I don't think they give a rip whether mercury is good or bad. They only care

about money. That is their bottom line: money.

In a message dated 4/23/2006 3:12:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mlcowen@... writes:

Sheila,

Our opinion (that mercury is bad) is not a main

stream opinion. Every " authority " agrees,

mercury is good,

among them the CDC, FDA, IOM, ABC, EFG, XYZ.

Our opinion is consider by the mainstream to

be a " fringe " or " kooky " .

You will find many, many mainstream opinions

that injecting mercury into infants is good

medicine. 95% of pediatrians agree: mercury

is good.

Welcome to the fringe... It's uncomfortable

out here, in the minority.

--- Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote:

> This comes from Offitt, M.D. of the

> Philadelphia Children's Hospital. He is

> the number one national defender of mercury

> in vaccines. There are many opinions about

> him.

>

> --- Sheila Young <sheilayoung2004@...> wrote:

>

> > Anyone care to comment? The following sounds

> > convincing but maybe there is more

> > to the story? Thanks.

> >

> > Sheila

> >

> > Thimerosal and Autism, Vaccines With Mercury Not

> > Harmful

> > >From the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

> > Vaccine Education Center

> >

> >

>

http://www.chop.edu/consumer/jsp/division/generic.jsp?id=75751

> >

> > Some parents are concerned that thimerosal,

> a

> > mercury-containing

> > preservative contained in the influenza vaccine,

> > causes autism. However,

> > during the past few years a series of biological

> and

> > epidemiological studies

> > have shown this concern to be unfounded. Here is a

> > summary of the evidence

> > showing that, while some things do cause autism,

> > mercury in vaccines isn't

> > one of them.

> > All mercury isn't the same: methylmercury

> vs.

> > ethylmercury

> > Mercury is a naturally occurring element

> found

> > in the earth's crust,

> > air, soil and water. Since the earth's formation,

> > volcanic eruptions,

> > weathering of rocks and burning of coal have

> caused

> > mercury to be released

> > into the environment. Once released, certain types

> > of bacteria in the

> > environment can change mercury to methylmercury.

> > Methylmercury makes its

> > way through the food chain in fish, animals, and

> > humans. At high levels, it

> > can be toxic to people.

> > Thimerosal - a preservative still used in

> the

> > influenza vaccine -

> > contains a different form of mercury called

> > ethylmercury. Studies comparing

> > ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they

> are

> > processed differently

> > in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and

> > excreted much more

> > rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore,

> ethylmercury

> > (the type of mercury in

> > the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than

> > methylmercury (the type of

> > mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the

> > body and cause harm.

> > Evidence that mercury doesn't cause autism

> In

> > 1971 Iraq imported grain

> > that had been fumigated with methylmercury.

> Farmers

> > ate bread made from this

> > grain. The result was one of the worst,

> > single-source, mercury poisonings in

> > history. Methylmercury in the grain caused the

> > hospitalization of 6,500

> > Iraqis and killed 450. Pregnant women also ate the

> > bread and delivered

> > babies with epilepsy and mental retardation. But

> > they didn't deliver babies

> > with an increased risk of autism.

> > Four large studies have now compared the

> risk

> > of autism in children

> > who received vaccines containing thimerosal to

> those

> > who received vaccines

> > without thimerosal. The studies were consistent,

> > clear and reproducible -

> > the incidence of autism was the same in both

> groups.

> > Denmark, a country that

> > abandoned thimerosal as a preservative in 1991,

> > actually saw an increase in

> > the disease beginning several years later.

> > Studies of the head size, speech patterns,

> > vision, coordination and

> > sensation of children poisoned by mercury show

> that

> > the symptoms of mercury

> > poisoning are clearly different from the symptoms

> of

> > autism.

> > Methylmercury is found in low levels in

> water,

> > infant formula and

> > breast milk. Although it is clear that large

> > quantities of mercury can

> > damage the nervous system, there is no evidence

> that

> > the small quantities

> > contained in water, infant formula and breast milk

> > do. An infant who is

> > exclusively breast-fed will ingest more than twice

> > the quantity of mercury

> > that was ever contained in vaccines and fifteen

> > times the quantity of

> > mercury contained in the influenza vaccine.

> > What is known about the causes of autism?

> > First, like cystic fibrosis

> > or sickle-cell disease, autism clearly has a

> genetic

> > basis. Researchers

> > found that when one identical twin had autism, the

> > chance that the other

> > twin had autism was about 90 percent; for

> fraternal

> > twins, the chance was

> > less than 10 percent.

> > Second, although autism clearly has a

> genetic

> > basis, environmental

> > factors can also cause the disease. For example,

> > children whose mothers took

> > thalidomide during pregnancy had birth defects,

> > including malformed ears and

> > shortened limbs. But they also had a significantly

> > greater incidence of

> > autism than babies born to mothers who never took

> > thalidomide. Thalidomide

> > clearly caused autism, but only if mothers took it

> > early in pregnancy. If

> > mothers took thalidomide in the second or third

> > trimester of pregnancy,

> > their babies weren't at increased risk of autism.

> > The thalidomide experience showed that there

> > was a vulnerable time

> > early in pregnancy when a drug could possibly

> cause

> > autism. Echoes of the

> > thalidomide story are found in babies infected

> with

> > rubella virus. Babies

> > born to mothers who suffered rubella early in

> their

> > pregnancies develop

> > birth defects involving the eyes, ears, brain and

> > heart. They also are at

> > greater risk of developing autism, but like

> > thalidomide, only if the baby is

> > exposed to rubella early during pregnancy. Babies

> > don't develop autism if

> > they are infected with the virus soon after birth.

>

> > Taken together, these

> > findings suggest that a virus or a drug can cause

> > autism, and that there is

> > a vulnerable time early during pregnancy when the

> > baby is at risk. However,

> > during the second or third trimester of pregnancy,

> > or after the child is

> > born, the window for environmental factors causing

> > autism has apparently

> > closed.

> > Women in the United States also occasionally

> > received mercury when

> > they were pregnant. It happened when doctors found

> > that the mother's blood

> > type was not compatible with their baby's blood

> > type. To prevent this blood

> > mismatch from hurting the baby, mothers were given

> > RhoGam, a product that

> > contained thimerosal as a preservative. However,

> > consistent with the

> > observation in Iraq, babies exposed to thimerosal

> in

> > RhoGam did not have a

> > greater risk for autism than babies whose mothers

> > never received RhoGam.

> > Although thalidomide and rubella virus can cause

> > autism in pregnancy,

> > scientific evidence clearly indicates that mercury

> > doesn't.

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things

> > you can do to help slow climate change.

> Earth

> > Day

> >

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> > removed]

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