Re: New Behaviors Since Antibiotics-Help!

August 9, 2006

,

Perhaps some good probiotics might help...

Good luck~

New Behaviors Since Antibiotics-Help!

Hi,

My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was on

antibiotics about a month ago-

He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches textures,

flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure, puts

things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in full

strength when I think they are fading.

I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF. I'm also

mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from that.

Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should I do

to help him?

We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such a

struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate (despite the

90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps well,

through the night and has a nap.

Thanks a lot,

August 9, 2006

,

Just my 2 cents, but I would really up the yeast protocol. 1/2 candex

will not do it most likely. Whenever my daughter has to take

antibiotics, I double her probiotics during the entire time she is on

the antibiotic. She was even on one last wek for an ear infection,

and I doubled the probiotic, and we saw no problems. We have had the

same problems you are seeing in the past, and it has always turned

out to be yeast caused by the fact that the antibiotic kills both go

and bad bacteris.--Tod

>

> Hi,

>

> My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he

was on

> antibiotics about a month ago-

>

> He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

textures,

> flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

pressure, puts

> things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

full

> strength when I think they are fading.

>

> I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

I'm also

> mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

that.

>

> Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

should I do

> to help him?

>

> We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

a

> struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

(despite the

> 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but

sleeps well,

> through the night and has a nap.

>

> Thanks a lot,

>

August 9, 2006

,

Look for a dairy-free probiotic.

S S

I will be retrying probiotics later this week. The results of a GI panel

should come in tomorrow. Hopefully I will have a better idea of the trace

minerals needed.

We aren't chelating yet, still fixing the gut. Is the hand

stimming/flailing, finicky hands and fingers an outward symbol of bacteria

toxins (he has parasites) or/and heavy metals?

I'm curious about one thing- the dark circles have appeared only after we

started the CF diet followed by GF. They weren't there before. Does it mean

new sensitivities or sensitivities that were latent before are in the

forefront?

Thank you very much,

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August 9, 2006

Thank you, , and Tod.

Tod, will 1 capsule/day of Candex be a good start? My son weighs 37 lbs.

I hope to start probiotics this week.

On 8/9/06, Tod <tod_s_2000@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Just my 2 cents, but I would really up the yeast protocol. 1/2 candex

> will not do it most likely. Whenever my daughter has to take

> antibiotics, I double her probiotics during the entire time she is on

> the antibiotic. She was even on one last wek for an ear infection,

> and I doubled the probiotic, and we saw no problems. We have had the

> same problems you are seeing in the past, and it has always turned

> out to be yeast caused by the fact that the antibiotic kills both go

> and bad bacteris.--Tod

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he

> was on

> > antibiotics about a month ago-

> >

> > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> textures,

> > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

> pressure, puts

> > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> full

> > strength when I think they are fading.

> >

> > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

> I'm also

> > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> that.

> >

> > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

> should I do

> > to help him?

> >

> > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> a

> > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> (despite the

> > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but

> sleeps well,

> > through the night and has a nap.

> >

> > Thanks a lot,

> >

August 10, 2006

>

> Hi,

>

> My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was on

> antibiotics about a month ago-

Consider increasing your yeast protocol. Antibiotics tend to increase

yeast

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day.

Increase this. Maybe add some probiotics.

Dana

August 10, 2006

Yes, that would be a good start, but you definitely need to start the

probiotics as well. Candex is just an enzyme that will eat the cell

wal of the yeast, but it will not poplulate the gut with the good

bacteria needed to balance things.--Tod

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time

he

> > was on

> > > antibiotics about a month ago-

> > >

> > > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > textures,

> > > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

> > pressure, puts

> > > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> > full

> > > strength when I think they are fading.

> > >

> > > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on

GFCF.

> > I'm also

> > > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> > that.

> > >

> > > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

> > should I do

> > > to help him?

> > >

> > > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is

such

> > a

> > > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> > (despite the

> > > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but

> > sleeps well,

> > > through the night and has a nap.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot,

> > >

August 10, 2006

,

Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

Hi,

My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was on

antibiotics about a month ago-

He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches textures,

flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure, puts

things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in full

strength when I think they are fading.

I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF. I'm also

mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from that.

Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should I do

to help him?

We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such a

struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate (despite the

90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps well,

through the night and has a nap.

Thanks a lot,

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August 11, 2006

Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling with the

new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

-He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

-Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

-I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This afternoon he

was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

- I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and Carnosine-Zinc)

at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has anyone

experience with this?

Thank you,

On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

>

> ,

> Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

>

> Hi,

>

> My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was

> on

> antibiotics about a month ago-

>

> He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> textures,

> flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure,

> puts

> things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in full

> strength when I think they are fading.

>

> I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF. I'm

> also

> mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from that.

>

> Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should I

> do

> to help him?

>

> We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such a

> struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate (despite

> the

> 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> well,

> through the night and has a nap.

>

> Thanks a lot,

>

>

>

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> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

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August 11, 2006

Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is suppose to be

casein free). A CDSA will show you what susceptibilities any of the

bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be precriptive agents

or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a bi-carbonate) will help neautralize the

toxins and help the probiotics survive. A pre-biotic such as FOS powder will

also help the probiotics survive the journey and repopulate.

Best of luck!

Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@...> wrote:

Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling

with the

new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

-He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

-Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

-I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This afternoon he

was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

- I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and Carnosine-Zinc)

at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has anyone

experience with this?

Thank you,

On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

>

> ,

> Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

>

> Hi,

>

> My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was

> on

> antibiotics about a month ago-

>

> He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> textures,

> flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure,

> puts

> things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in full

> strength when I think they are fading.

>

> I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF. I'm

> also

> mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from that.

>

> Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should I

> do

> to help him?

>

> We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such a

> struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate (despite

> the

> 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> well,

> through the night and has a nap.

>

> Thanks a lot,

>

>

>

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August 11, 2006

Thank you . I will look into the colostrum. I didn't know a CDSA can

show which medicines may be effective, alas we did another test that did not

give that information.

How should I time the AK Gold with the probiotics? Do you have a preferred

vendor for the FOS powder?

Sorry about all the questions,

On 8/11/06, Carlson <pcarltex@...> wrote:

>

> Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is

> suppose to be casein free). A CDSA will show you what susceptibilities any

> of the bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be

> precriptive agents or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a bi-carbonate) will

> help neautralize the toxins and help the probiotics survive. A pre-biotic

> such as FOS powder will also help the probiotics survive the journey and

> repopulate.

>

> Best of luck!

>

> Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling with

> the

> new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

> pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

>

> -He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

> -Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

> -I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This afternoon

> he

> was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

> - I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and

> Carnosine-Zinc)

> at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has

> anyone

> experience with this?

>

> Thank you,

>

> On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer

<_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > ,

> > Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was

> > on

> > antibiotics about a month ago-

> >

> > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > textures,

> > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure,

> > puts

> > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> full

> > strength when I think they are fading.

> >

> > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF. I'm

> > also

> > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> that.

> >

> > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should I

> > do

> > to help him?

> >

> > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> a

> > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate (despite

> > the

> > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> > well,

> > through the night and has a nap.

> >

> > Thanks a lot,

> >

> >

> >

> > _______________________________________________

> > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> >

>

August 12, 2006

Hi -

We use Nutra Flora FOS from Now. We give the alkaselter GOLD one hour before

he eats (half a tab). We also give ButyrEn™ (butyric acid) by Allergy Research

Group/Nutricology, Inc it is a short-chain, fatty-acid, dietary supplement in

the form of an enteric-coated formulation of calcium and magnesium salts of

butyric acid (2 tablets crushed, 2x daily, mixed in food). It supports the

integrity of colonic mucosa by acting as primary fuel for the colonic

epithelium. It is normally produced by colonic bacteria,

Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!

Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@...> wrote:

Thank you . I will look into the colostrum. I didn't know a

CDSA can

show which medicines may be effective, alas we did another test that did not

give that information.

How should I time the AK Gold with the probiotics? Do you have a preferred

vendor for the FOS powder?

Sorry about all the questions,

On 8/11/06, Carlson <pcarltex@...> wrote:

>

> Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is

> suppose to be casein free). A CDSA will show you what susceptibilities any

> of the bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be

> precriptive agents or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a bi-carbonate) will

> help neautralize the toxins and help the probiotics survive. A pre-biotic

> such as FOS powder will also help the probiotics survive the journey and

> repopulate.

>

> Best of luck!

>

> Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling with

> the

> new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

> pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

>

> -He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

> -Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

> -I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This afternoon

> he

> was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

> - I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and

> Carnosine-Zinc)

> at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has

> anyone

> experience with this?

>

> Thank you,

>

> On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer

<_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > ,

> > Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was

> > on

> > antibiotics about a month ago-

> >

> > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > textures,

> > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure,

> > puts

> > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> full

> > strength when I think they are fading.

> >

> > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF. I'm

> > also

> > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> that.

> >

> > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should I

> > do

> > to help him?

> >

> > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> a

> > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate (despite

> > the

> > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> > well,

> > through the night and has a nap.

> >

> > Thanks a lot,

> >

> >

> >

> > _______________________________________________

> > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> >

>

August 12, 2006

>

> Hi,

>

> My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was on

> antibiotics about a month ago-

>

> He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches textures,

> flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

pressure, puts

> things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in full

> strength when I think they are fading.

>

> I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

I'm also

> mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from that.

>

> Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

should I do

> to help him?

>

> We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such a

> struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

(despite the

> 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

well,

> through the night and has a nap.

>

> Thanks a lot,

>

August 13, 2006

Thank you. Patrica.

On 8/12/06, Carlson <pcarltex@...> wrote:

>

> Hi -

> We use Nutra Flora FOS from Now. We give the alkaselter GOLD one hour

> before he eats (half a tab). We also give ButyrEn™ (butyric acid) by Allergy

> Research Group/Nutricology, Inc it is a short-chain, fatty-acid, dietary

> supplement in the form of an enteric-coated formulation of calcium and

> magnesium salts of butyric acid (2 tablets crushed, 2x daily, mixed in

> food). It supports the integrity of colonic mucosa by acting as primary fuel

> for the colonic epithelium. It is normally produced by colonic bacteria,

>

> Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Thank you . I will look into the colostrum. I didn't know a CDSA

> can

> show which medicines may be effective, alas we did another test that did

> not

> give that information.

>

> How should I time the AK Gold with the probiotics? Do you have a preferred

> vendor for the FOS powder?

>

> Sorry about all the questions,

>

> On 8/11/06, Carlson

<pcarltex@...<pcarltex%40sbcglobal.net>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is

> > suppose to be casein free). A CDSA will show you what susceptibilities

> any

> > of the bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be

> > precriptive agents or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a bi-carbonate)

> will

> > help neautralize the toxins and help the probiotics survive. A

> pre-biotic

> > such as FOS powder will also help the probiotics survive the journey and

> > repopulate.

> >

> > Best of luck!

> >

> > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com> <

> mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling with

> > the

> > new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

> > pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

> >

> > -He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

> > -Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

> > -I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This afternoon

> > he

> > was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

> > - I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and

> > Carnosine-Zinc)

> > at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has

> > anyone

> > experience with this?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer

<_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com>

> <_Shepard%40excite.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ,

> > > Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was

> > > on

> > > antibiotics about a month ago-

> > >

> > > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > > textures,

> > > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure,

> > > puts

> > > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> > full

> > > strength when I think they are fading.

> > >

> > > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

> I'm

> > > also

> > > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> > that.

> > >

> > > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should

> I

> > > do

> > > to help him?

> > >

> > > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> > a

> > > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> (despite

> > > the

> > > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> > > well,

> > > through the night and has a nap.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _______________________________________________

> > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> > > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> > >

> >

August 13, 2006

Good luck with your new protocol, Wanda. Please try probiotics as others

have mentioned earlier in this chain. We just started with them,

On 8/12/06, dalywanda <dalywanda@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was on

> > antibiotics about a month ago-

> >

> > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches textures,

> > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

> pressure, puts

> > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in full

> > strength when I think they are fading.

> >

> > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

> I'm also

> > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from that.

> >

> > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

> should I do

> > to help him?

> >

> > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such a

> > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> (despite the

> > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> well,

> > through the night and has a nap.

> >

> > Thanks a lot,

> >

August 13, 2006

___,,,^.~.^,,,___ What kind of antibiotic was it, ?

--------------------Was it a quinolone

class?-------------------------------

Quinolones (according to the pharmacy drug interaction insert sheet) will

" form stable coordination compounds " with any divalent metallic cations.

In some sources I have found these compounds referred to as chelates,

but the antibiotic contains no sulfhydryl groups. The sources say that

it is the bacterio-active aryl group which binds the metals. I don't know

if this is a correct usage of the term " chelate, " and I don't know how

strong or persistent the compounds are. Perhaps they just mobilize

and redistribute the metals. Although I have found no research reports

studying the quinolones' interaction with mercuric ions and no word

of any warning about this, I think it is wise to consider any suspicion

of mercury intoxication as a contraindication for quinolones.

Stick to third generation macrolides (mycins) or cephalosporins unless

you're dealing with anthrax, staph, or some other resistant superbug.

And, oh yes, quinolones DO cross the BBB to some extent according

to the research papers I've been able to find.

---The Cat

Re: [ ] New Behaviors Since Antibiotics-Help!

Thank you. Patrica.

On 8/12/06, Carlson <pcarltex@...> wrote:

>

> Hi -

> We use Nutra Flora FOS from Now. We give the alkaselter GOLD one hour

> before he eats (half a tab). We also give ButyrEn™ (butyric acid) by

Allergy

> Research Group/Nutricology, Inc it is a short-chain, fatty-acid, dietary

> supplement in the form of an enteric-coated formulation of calcium and

> magnesium salts of butyric acid (2 tablets crushed, 2x daily, mixed in

> food). It supports the integrity of colonic mucosa by acting as primary

fuel

> for the colonic epithelium. It is normally produced by colonic bacteria,

>

> Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Thank you . I will look into the colostrum. I didn't know a CDSA

> can

> show which medicines may be effective, alas we did another test that did

> not

> give that information.

>

> How should I time the AK Gold with the probiotics? Do you have a preferred

> vendor for the FOS powder?

>

> Sorry about all the questions,

>

> On 8/11/06, Carlson

<pcarltex@...<pcarltex%40sbcglobal.net>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is

> > suppose to be casein free). A CDSA will show you what susceptibilities

> any

> > of the bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be

> > precriptive agents or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a bi-carbonate)

> will

> > help neautralize the toxins and help the probiotics survive. A

> pre-biotic

> > such as FOS powder will also help the probiotics survive the journey and

> > repopulate.

> >

> > Best of luck!

> >

> > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com> <

> mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling with

> > the

> > new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

> > pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

> >

> > -He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

> > -Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

> > -I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This afternoon

> > he

> > was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

> > - I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and

> > Carnosine-Zinc)

> > at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has

> > anyone

> > experience with this?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer

<_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com>

> <_Shepard%40excite.com>>

>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ,

> > > Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was

> > > on

> > > antibiotics about a month ago-

> > >

> > > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > > textures,

> > > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure,

> > > puts

> > > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> > full

> > > strength when I think they are fading.

> > >

> > > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

> I'm

> > > also

> > > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> > that.

> > >

> > > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should

> I

> > > do

> > > to help him?

> > >

> > > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> > a

> > > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> (despite

> > > the

> > > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> > > well,

> > > through the night and has a nap.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _______________________________________________

> > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> > > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> > >

> >

August 13, 2006

Hello there, (CAT

The antibiotic was Omnicef (tradename). I don't think it was a quinolone but

am not enough of a chemist to say that.

http://www.rxabbott.com/pdf/omnicef.PDF

Would you be able to take a look and confirm? If it is a quinolone and can

redistribute metals, the scenario is scary.

Thank you,

On 8/13/06, ARCTIC CAT <arcticat@...> wrote:

>

> ___,,,^.~.^,,,___ What kind of antibiotic was it, ?

> --------------------Was it a quinolone

> class?-------------------------------

> Quinolones (according to the pharmacy drug interaction insert sheet) will

> " form stable coordination compounds " with any divalent metallic cations.

> In some sources I have found these compounds referred to as chelates,

> but the antibiotic contains no sulfhydryl groups. The sources say that

> it is the bacterio-active aryl group which binds the metals. I don't know

> if this is a correct usage of the term " chelate, " and I don't know how

> strong or persistent the compounds are. Perhaps they just mobilize

> and redistribute the metals. Although I have found no research reports

> studying the quinolones' interaction with mercuric ions and no word

> of any warning about this, I think it is wise to consider any suspicion

> of mercury intoxication as a contraindication for quinolones.

> Stick to third generation macrolides (mycins) or cephalosporins unless

> you're dealing with anthrax, staph, or some other resistant superbug.

> And, oh yes, quinolones DO cross the BBB to some extent according

> to the research papers I've been able to find.

>

> ---The Cat

>

> Re: [ ] New Behaviors Since Antibiotics-Help!

>

> Thank you. Patrica.

>

> On 8/12/06, Carlson <pcarltex@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi -

> > We use Nutra Flora FOS from Now. We give the alkaselter GOLD one hour

> > before he eats (half a tab). We also give ButyrEn™ (butyric acid) by

> Allergy

> > Research Group/Nutricology, Inc it is a short-chain, fatty-acid, dietary

> > supplement in the form of an enteric-coated formulation of calcium and

> > magnesium salts of butyric acid (2 tablets crushed, 2x daily, mixed in

> > food). It supports the integrity of colonic mucosa by acting as primary

> fuel

> > for the colonic epithelium. It is normally produced by colonic bacteria,

> >

> > Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > Thank you . I will look into the colostrum. I didn't know a CDSA

> > can

> > show which medicines may be effective, alas we did another test that did

> > not

> > give that information.

> >

> > How should I time the AK Gold with the probiotics? Do you have a

> preferred

> > vendor for the FOS powder?

> >

> > Sorry about all the questions,

> >

> > On 8/11/06, Carlson

> <pcarltex@...<pcarltex%40sbcglobal.net>>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is

> > > suppose to be casein free). A CDSA will show you what susceptibilities

> > any

> > > of the bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be

> > > precriptive agents or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a

> bi-carbonate)

> > will

> > > help neautralize the toxins and help the probiotics survive. A

> > pre-biotic

> > > such as FOS powder will also help the probiotics survive the journey

> and

> > > repopulate.

> > >

> > > Best of luck!

> > >

> > > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com> <

> > mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > > Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling

> with

> > > the

> > > new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

> > > pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

> > >

> > > -He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

> > > -Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

> > > -I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This

> afternoon

> > > he

> > > was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

> > > - I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and

> > > Carnosine-Zinc)

> > > at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has

> > > anyone

> > > experience with this?

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer

> <_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com>

> > <_Shepard%40excite.com>>

> >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he

> was

> > > > on

> > > > antibiotics about a month ago-

> > > >

> > > > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > > > textures,

> > > > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

> pressure,

> > > > puts

> > > > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> > > full

> > > > strength when I think they are fading.

> > > >

> > > > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

> > I'm

> > > > also

> > > > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

> should

> > I

> > > > do

> > > > to help him?

> > > >

> > > > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> > > a

> > > > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> > (despite

> > > > the

> > > > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> > > > well,

> > > > through the night and has a nap.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _______________________________________________

> > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> > > > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> > > >

> > >

August 14, 2006

How's his diet? Is he eating carbs and sugars? They feed the yeast.

S S

> Hi,

>

> My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he was

> on

> antibiotics about a month ago-

>

> He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> textures,

> flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks pressure,

> puts

> things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in full

> strength when I think they are fading.

>

> I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF. I'm

> also

> mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from that.

>

> Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should I

> do

> to help him?

>

> We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such a

> struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate (despite

> the

> 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> well,

> through the night and has a nap.

>

> Thanks a lot,

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> Join Excite! - <a

href= " http://www.excite.com " >http://www.excite.com</a>

> The most personalized portal on the Web!

>

>

>

August 14, 2006

,

We are GFCFSFCornF, preservative and food color free, all organic, sugar

free except for honey and fruits. He does eat crbohydrates with enzymes. I

need to look beyond Candex and oregano oil, looks like we are not making a

dent in the yeast.

On 8/14/06, Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

>

> How's his diet? Is he eating carbs and sugars? They feed the yeast.

> S S

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he

> was

> > on

> > antibiotics about a month ago-

> >

> > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > textures,

> > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

> pressure,

> > puts

> > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> full

> > strength when I think they are fading.

> >

> > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

> I'm

> > also

> > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> that.

> >

> > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What should

> I

> > do

> > to help him?

> >

> > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> a

> > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> (despite

> > the

> > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> > well,

> > through the night and has a nap.

> >

> > Thanks a lot,

> >

> >

> >

> > _______________________________________________

> > Join Excite! - <a href= " http://www.excite.com " >http://www.excite.

> com</a>

> > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

August 15, 2006

Re: [ ] New Behaviors Since Antibiotics-Help!

>

> Thank you. Patrica.

>

> On 8/12/06, Carlson <pcarltex@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi -

> > We use Nutra Flora FOS from Now. We give the alkaselter GOLD one hour

> > before he eats (half a tab). We also give ButyrEn™ (butyric acid) by

> Allergy

> > Research Group/Nutricology, Inc it is a short-chain, fatty-acid, dietary

> > supplement in the form of an enteric-coated formulation of calcium and

> > magnesium salts of butyric acid (2 tablets crushed, 2x daily, mixed in

> > food). It supports the integrity of colonic mucosa by acting as primary

> fuel

> > for the colonic epithelium. It is normally produced by colonic bacteria,

> >

> > Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > Thank you . I will look into the colostrum. I didn't know a CDSA

> > can

> > show which medicines may be effective, alas we did another test that did

> > not

> > give that information.

> >

> > How should I time the AK Gold with the probiotics? Do you have a

> preferred

> > vendor for the FOS powder?

> >

> > Sorry about all the questions,

> >

> > On 8/11/06, Carlson

> <pcarltex@...<pcarltex%40sbcglobal.net>>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is

> > > suppose to be casein free). A CDSA will show you what susceptibilities

> > any

> > > of the bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be

> > > precriptive agents or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a

> bi-carbonate)

> > will

> > > help neautralize the toxins and help the probiotics survive. A

> > pre-biotic

> > > such as FOS powder will also help the probiotics survive the journey

> and

> > > repopulate.

> > >

> > > Best of luck!

> > >

> > > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com> <

> > mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > > Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling

> with

> > > the

> > > new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

> > > pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

> > >

> > > -He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

> > > -Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

> > > -I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This

> afternoon

> > > he

> > > was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

> > > - I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and

> > > Carnosine-Zinc)

> > > at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has

> > > anyone

> > > experience with this?

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > > On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer

> <_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com>

> > <_Shepard%40excite.com>>

> >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he

> was

> > > > on

> > > > antibiotics about a month ago-

> > > >

> > > > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > > > textures,

> > > > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

> pressure,

> > > > puts

> > > > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> > > full

> > > > strength when I think they are fading.

> > > >

> > > > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on GFCF.

> > I'm

> > > > also

> > > > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

> should

> > I

> > > > do

> > > > to help him?

> > > >

> > > > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is such

> > > a

> > > > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> > (despite

> > > > the

> > > > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but sleeps

> > > > well,

> > > > through the night and has a nap.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _______________________________________________

> > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> > > > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> > > >

> > >

August 19, 2006

Hi there!

Thanks for the details. They are helpful.

I think I have seen Andy post recently (less than a month ago) on a regular

basis, if I am not mistaken.

On 8/15/06, ARCTIC CAT <arcticat@...> wrote:

>

> Re: [ ] New Behaviors Since Antibiotics-Help!

> >

> > Thank you. Patrica.

> >

> > On 8/12/06, Carlson <pcarltex@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi -

> > > We use Nutra Flora FOS from Now. We give the alkaselter GOLD one hour

> > > before he eats (half a tab). We also give ButyrEn™ (butyric acid) by

> > Allergy

> > > Research Group/Nutricology, Inc it is a short-chain, fatty-acid,

> dietary

> > > supplement in the form of an enteric-coated formulation of calcium and

> > > magnesium salts of butyric acid (2 tablets crushed, 2x daily, mixed in

> > > food). It supports the integrity of colonic mucosa by acting as

> primary

> > fuel

> > > for the colonic epithelium. It is normally produced by colonic

> bacteria,

> > >

> > > Best of luck!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > > Thank you . I will look into the colostrum. I didn't know a

> CDSA

> > > can

> > > show which medicines may be effective, alas we did another test that

> did

> > > not

> > > give that information.

> > >

> > > How should I time the AK Gold with the probiotics? Do you have a

> > preferred

> > > vendor for the FOS powder?

> > >

> > > Sorry about all the questions,

> > >

> > > On 8/11/06, Carlson

> > <pcarltex@...<pcarltex%40sbcglobal.net>>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello - For low secretory sigA we used Kirkmans colostrum (it is

> > > > suppose to be casein free). A CDSA will show you what

> susceptibilities

> > > any

> > > > of the bacteria/yeast have - and then you can choose whether it be

> > > > precriptive agents or natural agents. Alkaselter GOLD ( a

> > bi-carbonate)

> > > will

> > > > help neautralize the toxins and help the probiotics survive. A

> > > pre-biotic

> > > > such as FOS powder will also help the probiotics survive the journey

> > and

> > > > repopulate.

> > > >

> > > > Best of luck!

> > > >

> > > > Mommy Boy <mommy.boy@... <mommy.boy%40gmail.com> <

> > > mommy.boy%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > > > Thank you all very much for the responses. We are still struggling

> > with

> > > > the

> > > > new behaviours but I have a better idea. GI testing showed yeast and

> > > > pathogenic bacteria along with super low sIGA (mucous is dry).

> > > >

> > > > -He needs enzymes which I am using (Houston and Enzymedica)

> > > > -Getting started on Probiotics (Klaire brand)

> > > > -I have increased Candex but I don't think it is helping. This

> > afternoon

> > > > he

> > > > was still being silly and laughing. Any other suggestions?

> > > > - I will be using some stuff (NAG- N-acetyl glucosamine and

> > > > Carnosine-Zinc)

> > > > at the suggestion of the nutritionist to heal the mucuous layer. Has

> > > > anyone

> > > > experience with this?

> > > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > > On 8/10/06, Shepard Salzer

> > <_Shepard@...<_Shepard%40excite.com>

> > > <_Shepard%40excite.com>>

> > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > Are they Houston enzymes or some other brand?

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > My child has been exhibiting some new behaviors since the time he

> > was

> > > > > on

> > > > > antibiotics about a month ago-

> > > > >

> > > > > He is stimmy (like never before): rolls on the ground, touches

> > > > > textures,

> > > > > flails his arms a lot, flaps, pushes against surfaces, seeks

> > pressure,

> > > > > puts

> > > > > things in his mouth. They go up and down and keep coming back in

> > > > full

> > > > > strength when I think they are fading.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am using yeast medicine- Candex, 1/2 capsule/day. We are on

> GFCF.

> > > I'm

> > > > > also

> > > > > mid-way in indroducing enzymes so some contribution may be from

> > > > that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any insight as to what is going on? Severe gut imbalance? What

> > should

> > > I

> > > > > do

> > > > > to help him?

> > > > >

> > > > > We could focus and do a lot of stuff until recently. Now it is

> such

> > > > a

> > > > > struggle. I keep feeling that there are foods he can't tolerate

> > > (despite

> > > > > the

> > > > > 90 IgE testing). He has faint dark circles under his eyes but

> sleeps

> > > > > well,

> > > > > through the night and has a nap.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _______________________________________________

> > > > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

> > > > > The most personalized portal on the Web!

> > > > >

> > > >

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