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I have a vinegar smell to my perspiration.

J

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>From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

>

>Geri, every once in a while I will smell this weird smell too, and no one

>else

>smells it. I go around sniffing trying to figure it out. It isn't all the

>time, I

>suppose that could be bile in my system too? It is so weird! I can't use

>flea

>sprays and such on my dogs because of my liver, I am too afraid of the

>stuff. Lynn

>aih

>

>Geri Spang wrote:

>

> > From: Geri Spang <spangs@...>

> >

> > Hi Patti,

> > How come your husband had to wait so long for his MRCP? Making someone

>wait so

> > long for a diagnosis for such a serious disease is frightening. I've

>never had

> > to wait long for any test I've had, but I suspect that it's because we

>have a

> > PPO. Although they don't get any more money for the tests when you're

>on a PPO

> > than when you're on an HMO, I don't think. The waiting must have been a

> > terrible ordeal for both of you and especially for him.

> >

> > About odors. I haven't noticed a sensitivity to odors but when I first

>got

> > sick I thought I could smell a chemical of some kind in our house. We'd

>just

> > moved to Nevada and I suspected either air pollution or something in the

>AC

> > vents. I even called the EPA with the intention of having them come in

>and do

> > testing to see if there was something dangerous in the venting.

>However, no

> > one else could smell what I was smelling. I was later told that what I

>was

> > " smelling " was actually due to bile in my system, since all of this was

>going

> > on just before I learned I have AIH.

> >

> > Other than that, for years I've had extreme sensitivity to things like

>new

> > carpeting and fresh paint. I got very sick when they were installing

>new

> > carpeting in an office building where I worked. Nausea and headaches,

>but no

> > one else in the office was sick, so they thought I was probably just a

> > complainer, I suppose. These days I never use any kind of pesticide

>spray

> > (like for ants, the scourge of the desert). My husband does the

>spraying when

> > it's necessary and we usually have an exterminator come in once a year.

>They

> > supposedly use " safe " sprays.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Geri

> >

> > ---------------------------

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Lynn,

I get something from my vet called " Advantage " . It is applied around the

dogs neck. There is a slight mothball smell at first, but is gone in few

hours. Works exceptionally well. Kills fleas and their larvae.

J

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>From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

>

>Geri, every once in a while I will smell this weird smell too, and no one

>else

>smells it. I go around sniffing trying to figure it out. It isn't all the

>time, I

>suppose that could be bile in my system too? It is so weird! I can't use

>flea

>sprays and such on my dogs because of my liver, I am too afraid of the

>stuff. Lynn

>aih

>

>Geri Spang wrote:

>

> > From: Geri Spang <spangs@...>

> >

> > Hi Patti,

> > How come your husband had to wait so long for his MRCP? Making someone

>wait so

> > long for a diagnosis for such a serious disease is frightening. I've

>never had

> > to wait long for any test I've had, but I suspect that it's because we

>have a

> > PPO. Although they don't get any more money for the tests when you're

>on a PPO

> > than when you're on an HMO, I don't think. The waiting must have been a

> > terrible ordeal for both of you and especially for him.

> >

> > About odors. I haven't noticed a sensitivity to odors but when I first

>got

> > sick I thought I could smell a chemical of some kind in our house. We'd

>just

> > moved to Nevada and I suspected either air pollution or something in the

>AC

> > vents. I even called the EPA with the intention of having them come in

>and do

> > testing to see if there was something dangerous in the venting.

>However, no

> > one else could smell what I was smelling. I was later told that what I

>was

> > " smelling " was actually due to bile in my system, since all of this was

>going

> > on just before I learned I have AIH.

> >

> > Other than that, for years I've had extreme sensitivity to things like

>new

> > carpeting and fresh paint. I got very sick when they were installing

>new

> > carpeting in an office building where I worked. Nausea and headaches,

>but no

> > one else in the office was sick, so they thought I was probably just a

> > complainer, I suppose. These days I never use any kind of pesticide

>spray

> > (like for ants, the scourge of the desert). My husband does the

>spraying when

> > it's necessary and we usually have an exterminator come in once a year.

>They

> > supposedly use " safe " sprays.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Geri

> >

> > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Geri, every once in a while I will smell this weird smell too, and no one else

smells it. I go around sniffing trying to figure it out. It isn't all the

time, I

suppose that could be bile in my system too? It is so weird! I can't use flea

sprays and such on my dogs because of my liver, I am too afraid of the stuff.

Lynn

aih

Geri Spang wrote:

> From: Geri Spang <spangs@...>

>

> Hi Patti,

> How come your husband had to wait so long for his MRCP? Making someone wait

so

> long for a diagnosis for such a serious disease is frightening. I've never

had

> to wait long for any test I've had, but I suspect that it's because we have a

> PPO. Although they don't get any more money for the tests when you're on a

PPO

> than when you're on an HMO, I don't think. The waiting must have been a

> terrible ordeal for both of you and especially for him.

>

> About odors. I haven't noticed a sensitivity to odors but when I first got

> sick I thought I could smell a chemical of some kind in our house. We'd just

> moved to Nevada and I suspected either air pollution or something in the AC

> vents. I even called the EPA with the intention of having them come in and do

> testing to see if there was something dangerous in the venting. However, no

> one else could smell what I was smelling. I was later told that what I was

> " smelling " was actually due to bile in my system, since all of this was going

> on just before I learned I have AIH.

>

> Other than that, for years I've had extreme sensitivity to things like new

> carpeting and fresh paint. I got very sick when they were installing new

> carpeting in an office building where I worked. Nausea and headaches, but no

> one else in the office was sick, so they thought I was probably just a

> complainer, I suppose. These days I never use any kind of pesticide spray

> (like for ants, the scourge of the desert). My husband does the spraying when

> it's necessary and we usually have an exterminator come in once a year. They

> supposedly use " safe " sprays.

>

> Take care,

> Geri

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

I too use Advantage on my cocker spaniel, but if you aren't comfortable with

it I do know of another solution. Sprinkle Borax all over your floors, let

it sit (I do mine just before bed, and leave overnite), and then vacuum it

all up. The way it works is that it dehydrates the fleas, so they are all

killed once they get on the carpet. It's basically the same stuff that Flea

Zappers uses and they guarantee it for a year! Perfectly safe for pets, and

sold in the laundry section for a couple of dollars!

(AIH)

[Guest guest]

I have noticed similar, and also when I work up a sweat it stings my eyes

something terrible, which it never did before. My hubby says he can't smell me,

but I can, and I hate it. Lynn aih

susan johnson wrote:

> From: " susan johnson " <shireen42@...>

>

> I have a vinegar smell to my perspiration.

>

> J

>

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> >From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

> >

> >Geri, every once in a while I will smell this weird smell too, and no one

> >else

> >smells it. I go around sniffing trying to figure it out. It isn't all the

> >time, I

> >suppose that could be bile in my system too? It is so weird! I can't use

> >flea

> >sprays and such on my dogs because of my liver, I am too afraid of the

> >stuff. Lynn

> >aih

> >

> >Geri Spang wrote:

> >

> > > From: Geri Spang <spangs@...>

> > >

> > > Hi Patti,

> > > How come your husband had to wait so long for his MRCP? Making someone

> >wait so

> > > long for a diagnosis for such a serious disease is frightening. I've

> >never had

> > > to wait long for any test I've had, but I suspect that it's because we

> >have a

> > > PPO. Although they don't get any more money for the tests when you're

> >on a PPO

> > > than when you're on an HMO, I don't think. The waiting must have been a

> > > terrible ordeal for both of you and especially for him.

> > >

> > > About odors. I haven't noticed a sensitivity to odors but when I first

> >got

> > > sick I thought I could smell a chemical of some kind in our house. We'd

> >just

> > > moved to Nevada and I suspected either air pollution or something in the

> >AC

> > > vents. I even called the EPA with the intention of having them come in

> >and do

> > > testing to see if there was something dangerous in the venting.

> >However, no

> > > one else could smell what I was smelling. I was later told that what I

> >was

> > > " smelling " was actually due to bile in my system, since all of this was

> >going

> > > on just before I learned I have AIH.

> > >

> > > Other than that, for years I've had extreme sensitivity to things like

> >new

> > > carpeting and fresh paint. I got very sick when they were installing

> >new

> > > carpeting in an office building where I worked. Nausea and headaches,

> >but no

> > > one else in the office was sick, so they thought I was probably just a

> > > complainer, I suppose. These days I never use any kind of pesticide

> >spray

> > > (like for ants, the scourge of the desert). My husband does the

> >spraying when

> > > it's necessary and we usually have an exterminator come in once a year.

> >They

> > > supposedly use " safe " sprays.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Geri

> > >

> > > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Thanks , I have heard of that, but it is still an insecticide, which is not

good for your liver. Also my pet sleeps on the bed with us and I would be

petting him. I really don't know what to do about it. I did have some stuff

that was non toxic and killed fleas great, but I can't find a place to buy it

any more. Thanks for the help, Lynn aih

susan johnson wrote:

> From: " susan johnson " <shireen42@...>

>

> Lynn,

>

> I get something from my vet called " Advantage " . It is applied around the

> dogs neck. There is a slight mothball smell at first, but is gone in few

> hours. Works exceptionally well. Kills fleas and their larvae.

>

> J

>

> >From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

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> >From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

> >

> >Geri, every once in a while I will smell this weird smell too, and no one

> >else

> >smells it. I go around sniffing trying to figure it out. It isn't all the

> >time, I

> >suppose that could be bile in my system too? It is so weird! I can't use

> >flea

> >sprays and such on my dogs because of my liver, I am too afraid of the

> >stuff. Lynn

> >aih

> >

> >Geri Spang wrote:

> >

> > > From: Geri Spang <spangs@...>

> > >

> > > Hi Patti,

> > > How come your husband had to wait so long for his MRCP? Making someone

> >wait so

> > > long for a diagnosis for such a serious disease is frightening. I've

> >never had

> > > to wait long for any test I've had, but I suspect that it's because we

> >have a

> > > PPO. Although they don't get any more money for the tests when you're

> >on a PPO

> > > than when you're on an HMO, I don't think. The waiting must have been a

> > > terrible ordeal for both of you and especially for him.

> > >

> > > About odors. I haven't noticed a sensitivity to odors but when I first

> >got

> > > sick I thought I could smell a chemical of some kind in our house. We'd

> >just

> > > moved to Nevada and I suspected either air pollution or something in the

> >AC

> > > vents. I even called the EPA with the intention of having them come in

> >and do

> > > testing to see if there was something dangerous in the venting.

> >However, no

> > > one else could smell what I was smelling. I was later told that what I

> >was

> > > " smelling " was actually due to bile in my system, since all of this was

> >going

> > > on just before I learned I have AIH.

> > >

> > > Other than that, for years I've had extreme sensitivity to things like

> >new

> > > carpeting and fresh paint. I got very sick when they were installing

> >new

> > > carpeting in an office building where I worked. Nausea and headaches,

> >but no

> > > one else in the office was sick, so they thought I was probably just a

> > > complainer, I suppose. These days I never use any kind of pesticide

> >spray

> > > (like for ants, the scourge of the desert). My husband does the

> >spraying when

> > > it's necessary and we usually have an exterminator come in once a year.

> >They

> > > supposedly use " safe " sprays.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Geri

> > >

> > > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

I too use Advantage on my dog. I used to put it on her myself now I make

my husband do it. I just try not to pet her neck there, Sometimes I

forget. After a few days I don't think it matters She also sleeps in

bed.I try not to let things like that bother me . After all I don't know

what I would do without her. She listens to all my problems and never

looks at me like I am crazy.

Pa.

[Guest guest]

I also have noticed a Funky odor I especially notice it on my bedding.

Like nothing I have ever smelled. My husdand says he can't smell it. Why

I wonder?

Pa.

[Guest guest]

Try to use " fabreeze " it works...

[Guest guest]

That is really a good idea, I am going to do it. Thanks a bunch, Lynn aih

La7de@... wrote:

> From: La7de@...

>

> ,

>

> I too use Advantage on my cocker spaniel, but if you aren't comfortable with

> it I do know of another solution. Sprinkle Borax all over your floors, let

> it sit (I do mine just before bed, and leave overnite), and then vacuum it

> all up. The way it works is that it dehydrates the fleas, so they are all

> killed once they get on the carpet. It's basically the same stuff that Flea

> Zappers uses and they guarantee it for a year! Perfectly safe for pets, and

> sold in the laundry section for a couple of dollars!

>

> (AIH)

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Fabreeze is toxic to animals though, my neighbor's dog got very listless,

wouldn't eat, and the vet couldn't figure it out. Come to find out she has

used fabreeze all over the dogs bed, and the furniture...

This is a message from the Veterinary Emergency Center in Needham regarding a

product called Fabreze.

Fabreze a new product that is used to get odors out of fabrics has been

causing deaths and illness in dogs and birds. There have been multiple

instances reported in the past few weeks of dogs and birds dying after

Fabreze was used anywhere near them. Some dogs have only gotten very ill, but

some have died. Several birds have died as well. Fabreze contains zinc

chloride, which is the culprit. If you have recently sprayed your dog's bed

with this product, please wash it until you get all of the Fabreze out, or get

your dog new bedding. Please pass the word along to your friends so we can

prevent further deaths

[Guest guest]

> I have a vinegar smell to my perspiration.

>

> J

So do I, especially from the front of my neck!! I'm sure it is either from

the disease or one of the meds.

Don

AIH Minneapolis

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

Back to the subject of weird smells - I was told that when I was constantly

smelling chemicals that no one else could smell, I was actually " smelling "

the bilirubin in my system. While that was going on, my urine was also

saffron colored, like a dye and it would stain my underwear. The stains

never did wash out. I still occasionally think I smell chemicals but there

are no other signs of bilirubin in either my urine color or in my labs.

Take care,

Geri

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/18/02 6:29:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

pastmidvale@... writes:

<< Before expensive Febreeze came to be, I used pounds of Baking Soda. Cheap

and not harmful. Make sure site to be used is dry. Put baking soda under

the carpet and on the carpet. Let sit overnight. Vacuum up. Repeat as

necessary.

When I bought my house in VA, one room had been used for cats. The floor

and walls reeked. It took a couple of months after scrubbing to get rid of

the odor, but we did.

Good luck. >>

Thanks for the tip Sara. Did you use baking soda on the walls?

Gail :-)

[Guest guest]

We used baking soda in water on the walls, but then a neighbor suggested

vinegar. We used white vinegar especially where the cats had sprayed the

lower walls. It took almost 2 months to make the room usable because I

didn't change the baking soda daily - I would forget since we were re-doing

the whole house. I understand now that if I had been more diligent, the

smell would have disapated in a week or two. This is the room that became

Elie's special play room (small with strange ceiling and walls at weird

angles- he loved that spaace.

Sara

Sara

----Original Message Follows----

From: smilinggail@...

Reply-

Subject: Re: SMELLS

Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 07:36:22 EDT

In a message dated 6/18/02 6:29:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

pastmidvale@... writes:

<< Before expensive Febreeze came to be, I used pounds of Baking Soda.

Cheap

and not harmful. Make sure site to be used is dry. Put baking soda under

the carpet and on the carpet. Let sit overnight. Vacuum up. Repeat as

necessary.

When I bought my house in VA, one room had been used for cats. The floor

and walls reeked. It took a couple of months after scrubbing to get rid

of

the odor, but we did.

Good luck. >>

Thanks for the tip Sara. Did you use baking soda on the walls?

Gail :-)

Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/19/02 7:36:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

pastmidvale@... writes:

<< We used baking soda in water on the walls, but then a neighbor suggested

vinegar. We used white vinegar especially where the cats had sprayed the

lower walls. It took almost 2 months to make the room usable because I

didn't change the baking soda daily - I would forget since we were re-doing

the whole house. I understand now that if I had been more diligent, the

smell would have disapated in a week or two. This is the room that became

Elie's special play room (small with strange ceiling and walls at weird

angles- he loved that spaace.

Sara >>

Thanks Sara. Since dh isn't smoking anymore, I will have to wash the walls

with vinegar too. May be a year before I get caught up enough to do it

though. LOL Hey, I love the Febreze....sprayed it once last night and I

haven't smelled anything in their all day. COOL!!!!!! Elie's playroom

sounds neat.

Gail :-)

[Guest guest]

i know we got a used mattress for nathan that looked and felt like new except

that it smelled like smoke very badly!!! but i got some of that keep clean

febreeze and sprayed the entire mattress down and the next day afte it dried

no more smoke . i wonder if a mom invented that stuff---had to be

shawna.

[Guest guest]

> And I thought my farts didnt smell that bad!!!!!!

>

> Kristy

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I say let the dogs and innocent babies take the blame whenever

possible....I have been out shopping and walk over near a baby, let

it go...wait a second then turn to the baby, wrinkle my nose and

walk away....with the mother picking up the baby and sniffing its

bottom.

Jo

a girls gotta do what a girls gotta do....

[Guest guest]

Kristy,

That's hysterical!! Poor, innocent little doggies! I hope you

slipped them an extra treat for getting yelled at on your behalf

-Anita in Denver

> Funny thing happened yesterday. I was at my Mums house on the

Gold Coast. She and her husband were out in the garden and I 'may'

have just released a little gas in her living room.

>

> 15 minutes later, they both came inside and declared the living

room smelled and one of the dogs must have left an accident

somewhere!! I stood by innocently while they spent over 10 minutes

searching under and behind sofa's and other furniture. They were so

perplexed when they couldnt find it!!! And the poor dogs got yelled

at for nothing!

>

> And I thought my farts didnt smell that bad!!!!!!

>

> Kristy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/30/2003 4:44:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

s4052475@... writes:

> Funny thing happened yesterday. I was at my Mums house on the Gold Coast.

> She and her husband were out in the garden and I 'may' have just released a

> little gas in her living room.

>

> 15 minutes later, they both came inside and declared the living room smelled

> and one of the dogs must have left an accident somewhere!! I stood by

> innocently while they spent over 10 minutes searching under and behind sofa's

and

> other furniture. They were so perplexed when they couldnt find it!!! And the

> poor dogs got yelled at for nothing!

>

> And I thought my farts didnt smell that bad!!!!!!

>

> Kristy

This is sooo funny! Poor critters -- there are going to be many, many

animals that will get the blame out there! LOL

Hugs and blessings, Ann

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/30/2003 7:42:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mjs93311@... writes:

> Kristy,

>

> No fair making me laugh that hard! Reminds me that whenever I " go " at work,

> they put an " Out of Order " sign on the bathroom. It took me a couple times

> before I realized the connection. I asked about the sign and they said, " Oh,

> there's a smell they can't get out of there " .

>

> Marta

> Slow one.

I have a suggestion for you, Marta! I just found the new Clorox and Lysol

odor neutralizers and they WORK -- the Clorox works much better than the Lysol

(in my humble opinion). After spraying the bathroom, the odor just disappears

in a jiff. You might want to take one to " your " bathroom and leave it there,

anonymously, of course!

Hugs and blessings, Ann

[Guest guest]

> > And I thought my farts didnt smell that bad!!!!!!

> >

> > Kristy

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

> I say let the dogs and innocent babies take the blame whenever

> possible....I have been out shopping and walk over near a baby, let

> it go...wait a second then turn to the baby, wrinkle my nose and

> walk away....with the mother picking up the baby and sniffing its

> bottom.

>

> Jo

> a girls gotta do what a girls gotta do....

jo- you are so funny. i would love to meet you someday. i love being

around someone who can make me laugh non stop. your poor sister in

law. i was laughin so hard. hhhmmmmmmmmm what should i name them? any

suggestions?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/1/2003 7:36:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mjs93311@... writes:

> Ann, are these odor-neutralizers spray cans? I am using Glade Industrial

> and I don't bother to hide the can, I just boldly carry it into the bathroom.

> I figure, what the heck.

>

> Marta

> Shameless...

Hi Marta!

I'm shameless, too! I think people would rather we try to take care of the

" aroma " than to hide the fact! LOL

Yes, these are spray cans (I know, I'd rather not use aerosols, but sometimes

a girls gotta do what a girls gotta do)!

Hugs and blessings, Ann

[Guest guest]

Gosh I love Avila Fruit Stand...I always go there and love to take

my granddaughter...love the pies too.

As for your question....Animal smells do not bother me and I LOVE

vinegar flavored stuff. In fact during the first 6 months post op I

craved it.

It is interesting the twist and turns that can happen after the

surgery.

Jo

[Guest guest]

> uh huh, well...it's like this Jimbo-

> I didn't want to post when my scales said I was -100, I wanted to

wait until my doctor's scale said it (you know....in the middle of

the day....with my cloths on....and my gut full). Since I went to

the doctor yesterday, and it was confirmed....I felt it to

be " official " .

> I guess my appointment with Dr. Z tomorrow will be even

more " official " .

> Thanks for the watchful eye-

> Sandi

Sandi!

You Made it! Welcome to the century club, regardless of what Dr Zs

scale says! You did it.

HUGE CONGRATS!!!

Sharon in Onyx